The Case Against Consumer Change (with Natalie Fulton) (Ep. 25)

Should vegans stop calling ourselves vegan? Natalie Fulton makes the case in this conversation. Natalie is a YouTuber and the social media lead for Pro-Animal Future, which focuses on using systemic change to end the exploitation of animals. - Follow Pro-Animal Future: Website: https://ProAnimalFuture.org Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/proanimalfuture/ Slaughter- Free September 2024 Interest form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfLUqkWaQzJqvfeg9AzZWZ3QW6YXOckja77HfhLmuA5muvLwg/viewform - Follow Natalie: YouTube: www.youtube.com/@Natalie.Fulton Patreon: patreon.com/nataliefulton Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nataliefu26 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nattiefulton/ Threads: https://www.threads.net/@nattiefulton TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nattiefulton Substack: https://nataliefulton.substack.com/ - The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://simpleheart.org! - Chapters: Chapter 1) 00:00-29:08 Intro, working with Pro-Animal Future, ballot initiatives in Colorado, individual change vs. systemic change, Vegan Gains, Natalie’s debate strategy, & the history of change Chapter 2) 29:09-59:35 What is the winning narrative for animal rights, Natalie’s controversial take on the word “Vegan,” identity, documentaries, & animal rights as a political issue Chapter 3) 59:35-1:13:36 The goal of animal rights, influencers affected by their audience, ordinary people affected by their social circles, & the lies of animal agriculture industry Chapter 4) 1:13:37-1:34:42 We stronger with more activists, meditation, & everyone can contribute to the animal rights movement Chapter 5) 1:34:43-1:37:36 Final thoughts: More on the ballot initiative in Colorado, Slaughter-Free September (link above), & follow Pro-Animal Future (links above) Chapter 6) 1:37:37-1:37:53 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, Chloe Leffakis, & Jeremy Loeb