The Dance Legend Behind Chris Brown, BTS, and Usher

At just 23, Josh Smith was choreographing for the biggest names in music: Chris Brown, Usher, BTS, Ciara, and more. But his journey started way outside the industry playbook. In this raw and powerful episode, Josh opens up about being rejected, breaking into the dance world with no agent, and how one last-minute audition changed everything. From crashing a Disney audition to touring the world with Usher, this is the unfiltered truth about what it takes to build a sustainable dance career, including the money, the mindset, and the hustle no one talks about. Whether you're a dancer, creative, or just chasing a dream, this interview will shift your perspective. 00:00 Intro 02:06 Childhood and Early Dance Influences 03:44 Middle School Dance Beginnings 10:01 High School and Developing Skills 11:33 Transition to Atlanta 13:50 America's Best Dance Crew Experience 15:51 First Professional Gigs 21:13 Dealing with Rejection and Perseverance 29:46 Landing Major Artist Collaborations 30:48 Mentorship and Career Growth 32:02 Loyalty and Big Break with Usher 34:38 Touring with Usher 41:29 The Role of Dance Agents 46:07 Sustaining a Dance Career 52:17 Adapting as You Get Older 01:00:34 Transitioning to Choreography 01:02:27 Working with Chris Brown 01:09:43 The Role of Choreographers in Dance 01:10:31 The Challenges of Filming Dance 01:10:40 Editing Dance Videos 01:12:30 The Impact of TikTok on Dance 01:23:45 Finding Inspiration for Choreography 01:32:47 Advice for Aspiring Dancers 01:36:28 Dream Collaboration with Michael Jackson 01:39:30 Meaningful Compliments and Legacy 01:42:38 Final thoughts   Follow Josh Follow ⁠⁠Arrad (podcast host)⁠⁠    LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST: ⁠⁠SPOTIFY⁠⁠ ⁠⁠APPLE MUSIC⁠⁠ ⁠⁠YOUTUBE⁠⁠   CONNECT WITH US: ✩ ⁠⁠Ourselves (production team)⁠⁠:  ✩ ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ ✩ ⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠ ✩ ⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠ ✩ ⁠⁠Facebook