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EPISODE · Oct 12, 2025 · 27 MIN

The Dawn of Bio-Computing: Harnessing the Power of Living Neurons

from Humain Leaders · host Susan Caesar

An Interview with Dr. Ewelina Kurtys of Final SparkStep into the future of computation with Dr. Ewelina Kurtys, a neuroscientist and AI expert leading the charge in bio-computing at the Swiss startup Final Spark.The exponential energy demands of current AI models pose a major climate challenge. The solution? Living neurons. Dr. Kurtys explains why this is the only way forward: neurons are an incredible one million times more energy efficient than digital hardware.In this fascinating discussion, Dr. Kurtys pulls back the curtain on how Final Spark is manufacturing these new types of computers:From Skin to Brain: She details the process of turning commercially available human skin cells into living human neurons.The Neuro-Platform: Learn how these 10,000-neuron 3D structures, or neurospheres, are placed on electrodes to send and receive signals, beginning the biocomputer experiment.The Grand Vision: The company's ultimate goal is to build a massive bio-server, a cloud-accessible computer that could run complex AI models like large language models (LLMs).The Road Ahead: Challenges and EthicsDr. Kurtys discusses the enormous 10-year project timeline, which requires a $50 million investment to accelerate research and development. But the potential reward is immense: a technology that could be 10 times cheaper to run than a digital equivalent, a huge market advantage driven by energy efficiency.The biggest hurdle isn't engineering, but neuroscience: nobody knows how to program neurons. The team's immediate three-year focus is on solving this problem of "learning in vitro", teaching neurons to perform simple tasks.Finally, Dr. Kurtys addresses the most common ethical question: consciousness. While currently a non-issue, she discusses why Final Spark is actively engaging philosophers to prepare for a future when bio-computers may become truly intelligent.Listen in to discover the revolutionary work being done to create an AI infrastructure that is cheaper, greener, and built on the very stuff of life.Curious to see it in action? Dr. Kurtys encourages listeners to check out the Final Spark website to see the "butterfly demo," a live, simple demonstration controlled by living neurons. https://butterfly.finalspark.com/https://finalspark.com/https://www.humain.org/Send us Fan Mailhttps://www.humain.org/https://www.linkedin.com/in/susancaesar/

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An Interview with Dr. Ewelina Kurtys of Final Spark Step into the future of computation with Dr. Ewelina Kurtys, a neuroscientist and AI expert leading the charge in bio-computing at the Swiss startup Final Spark. The exponential energy demands of current AI models pose a major climate challenge. The solution? Living neurons. Dr. Kurtys explains why this is the only way forward: neurons are an incredible one million times more energy efficient than digital hardware. In this fascinating discus...

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