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EPISODE · May 13, 2026 · 21 MIN

The Difference Between Knowing What to Do and Actually Doing It

from Control or Be Controlled · host Darlington Ogbuka

What happens when life takes everything you thought you could control—and forces you to rebuild from the ground up? Today’s guest is Buddy Clay, a father, entrepreneur, author, and founder of New Hope Healthcare Institute in Knoxville, Tennessee. At just 36 years old, Buddy was married, raising two young daughters, expecting a third child, and building his life when he received a devastating stage 4 cancer diagnosis. Faced with difficult decisions about his health and future, Buddy chose a path that was radically different from what those around him expected. He pursued a holistic approach based on his own research, faith, and protocols, while navigating the enormous emotional, financial, and personal pressure that came with his diagnosis. But surviving the crisis was only part of the story. The experience forced Buddy to confront his beliefs about fear, control, fatherhood, marriage, faith, responsibility, and what it means to keep moving when the future is uncertain. What began as a fight for his own life eventually became the foundation for a new chapter—one that led him to entrepreneurship, healthcare, and his debut book, Built in the Fire. In this conversation, Buddy opens up about the moments that tested him most, the mindset that helped him keep going, and what happens when adversity strips away everything except what truly matters. We explore: • What a life-changing diagnosis can teach you about control • Making difficult decisions when there are no easy answers • The role of faith when everything feels uncertain • Fatherhood and marriage during the most challenging seasons of life • How adversity can completely reshape your identity • Turning desperation into determination • Building a business after experiencing rock bottom • The psychological battle that comes with facing a life-threatening crisis • Why some of our hardest seasons can become defining chapters • What it means to be “built in the fire” rather than broken by it Buddy’s story is ultimately about more than cancer. It’s about what happens when the life you planned disappears—and you have to decide who you’re going to become next. If you’ve ever faced a season that made you question your strength, your faith, or your direction, this conversation offers a powerful perspective on resilience, responsibility, and rebuilding when everything is on the line. Learn more about Buddy Clay and his work: 🌐 https://www.buddyclay.com

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