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Welcome back to the Toast. Happy Friday. You guys, today is a celebration because it's Friday. We have one of our most popular co-hosts of all time subbing in for Claudia and we have Bruno in studio. So today is a threefer. Welcome to today's co-host, my little sister, Margot Oshry. Hello, everyone. I'm so jealous that you have Bruno. I should have brought Mags. You should have. I actually didn't plan to bring Bruno and I never bring him. This is the first time I've brought him.
I can't even remember the last time he was on the show. But as I was driving to work this morning, as I was leaving the house, I saw like Zach walking Bruno. And I pulled over and he was with the boys. So I was like, oh, hi. And then Bruno was just like being Bruno. And Zach was like, you want to take him to work? I was like, yeah, I do want to take him to work. But you didn't want to take his harness off. No, I didn't take his harness off. And now I can't because I don't want him to get up. But there's been like a lot of rumors about Bruno. Yeah, talk to me. How's he doing? Because I was- He's doing amazing. Worried this summer. He always gives everyone a fright in the Hamptons. The Hamptons do not agree with Bruno. He is the worst, fattest, laziest version of himself. But the moment we got home, like he's back to the old Bruno. He's back
Are you just saying that to tell yourself that? No. No, no, no, no. Everyone says it. Bruno is back. Bruno is back. Point blank period. Point blank period. I look forward to the next time you connect with him. I look forward to the next time I connect with him as well. Because you know he really loves me. He loves to come in my bed. And I really love Bru. But he makes me upset. He's a crazy individual. But he's living his best life. He's a crazy individual. He is. It's so true. Well, you guys, Margot is here. And I didn't want to overhype it. But I meant what I said. Because I was saying, Claudia's out today. I was thinking of who I wanted to co-host with me. And who were some of the most popular co-hosts when I...
to Claudia's maternity leave. And Margot's episode, I think the shot, the episode was called like Satchi Catching Straits, something like that. Yeah, yeah, I was catching straits. And it was literally one of the most popular episodes of the maternity leave. And then people were reminding me like, oh, is it, because I said it's the most popular host from maternity leave. They were like, is it Jessie from Secret Lives? Because actually I do think hers was like the most interesting because it was like so buzzy. No, fair enough.
So second most popular couple. No, I like, that's an honor. I'll take like top five. Cause it's like, you know, I'm not like special. Like I'm your sister. It's not like I like have like really any major like tea to give. So it just means that people just enjoy our banter and that's lovely. Yeah. And I think you're one of the closest personalities like to a regular episode of the toast is what it is. I was ready to go to the studio, bring in a guest, you know, call my peeps in Miami. You know, but I was like, wait, they just want like swirly vibes. They just want swirly vibes. I'm so happy you're here today. I'm so happy you're here today because it's like going to be a big Taylor day. And if not Claudia, like you are the right person to talk to.
Given the circumstances, we couldn't have a better co-host. I haven't spoken to you since the Hamptons. I don't think I've spoken to you on FaceTime. We texted you. I texted you asking if you could do the show today. I haven't spoken to you since the Hamptons. No, we recorded Redheads.
That's really bad. And it's like, of course, it's a two-way street. Yeah, it is actually a two-way street. You, if I never call you again, like, you will never call me again. But if I will never call you again, you will never call me again. No, I would. I would call you. And you know that. But, like, I also am, like, extremely busy. I moved into a new house. No, no, no. By the way, I have, like, no problems with you. Like, I totally get it. You have so much going on. No, no, no. Of course you don't have problems with me. But it sounds like you have problems with me. But, like, I'm also so busy, you know? Like, does that make you sad that you haven't spoken to your favorite sister at length in a while? No, it does. But I'm also just thinking about, like, I don't know when I would have had the time. Because
No time to call your sister. It's actually, I didn't even realize until right now. And it's been a really crazy month, but it's kind of disgusting and unprecedented how long we haven't like had a catch up for. So you guys are going to be privileged to our catch up. That's true. That's true. Which is fun for you. And by the way, there's nothing like, there's nothing betwixt us negative or anything like that. Oh, should we start beef? Let's start a rumor. People are going to hear that. People are going to hear that and think like we don't like each other. No, no, totally. Oh my God. I kind of love that. Like, yeah, like people like think that like the sisters are like beefing. Like that's like tea. Yeah, it's like so Kardashian. Yeah, totally. It's like, oh my God, like Jackie and I don't like each other. Because we're so up each other's buds.
There's never been any space for rumors like that. It's so true. Because we love each other so much. Also, not for nothing, like, there is a group chat that's constantly going on. It's not like we've never been, we're not in communication. Like, we are constantly talking every day. It's just in different formats. And we know, like, if you have an update and I have an update, it's in, like, I know. But one to one. One on one. We haven't had a touch base in a while. We haven't. You should come see me. Oh, we did. When you called me, actually. You called me about Bruno Mars. I did. I did. We were thinking about going to Bruno Mars. Like, Bruno Mars has always been performing. September, Miami. Like, we're going. And then the week before, Margo was like, are we going? And I was like, no. And I do wish that we went. I didn't see one thing from that. I haven
I saw someone sent me videos from the show in Miami and it looked amazing. We should have been there. But it was the day before Yom Kippur. It's just a lot. It's just a lot of time. Bruno swallowed a chicken bone. I have three kids. Bruno swallowed a chicken bone. Oh, yeah. Have you heard of this? It was like two plus weeks ago now, so I think we're in the clear. He swallowed a chicken bone, which is so bad for dogs. And then what? Nothing. Did he poop it out? Nope. We kept calm and we carried on. So in that event, do you take him to the vet or you just pray for the best? No. Unless he's giving me cause. Unless he's like, you know.
Not being yourself. Or, you know, sometimes we look at him and we're like, there's something wrong with Bruno. But he was like, fine. Yeah, no, there was nothing. There was nothing. His birthday's coming up, yeah? His birthday was in August.
What? Oh, but you got him in October. His gotcha day is coming up. Oh, oh, oh, oh. I always associate him with October. Got it. Okay. Oh, that's so cute. Yeah. Yeah. That's so cute. Well, what's new with you? I know you just want to talk about Bruno. What's new with you? I shouldn't have brought him. He's a distraction. What's new with me? Nothing really to share with you publicly online, you know? Oh, wow. But you've been too busy to call me, but there's nothing new? No. My life is, I just have a busy life, you know? I just lead a very busy life. What are you doing this weekend? Things going on. What am I doing this weekend? Tonight I have dinner. Tomorrow.
Have you ever been to a restaurant in the city called Estella? No, but I feel like I've heard of it, but why? That's where MGK and Dakota Johnson went on their date. Interesting. When they went to Taylor Swift's apartment. Oh, I don't know. I don't really know the hot new places because I feel like I go to the same three. Oh, you do? You don't go to hot new restaurants? Have you been to Corner Store? I do. I have. I do love Corner Store. And I did actually go to the new restaurant that they opened, that Corner Store opened this week called Cafe Charmin. It's in the old St. Theo's. And it was fabulous. So maybe I do actually know. So what do you think is the best restaurant in the city for someone coming to visit New York City? Hailstone.
Okay, but like city-specific. And I agree, it is Phil Stone. Yeah, city-specific, like what's the cuisine? Just give me a great restaurant in New York City. Like, come on, we got a young New York City, young person here. And it's not a membership club? No, and it's not a membership club. Shoot, like, I don't know why this is coming to me, but like American Bar. Okay, that sounds like a good answer. I do love American Bar, yeah. What? Are you ready for the next question? Nothing, I was going to say what's new with you. Oh, that's so sweet of you. What's new with me?
What is it new with me? I would say. It's so true. I can't wait to see your new house. I'm so excited. Are you coming anytime soon? Do you have plans? I have a Thanksgiving booked. And then I was thinking about maybe coming in October for Levi's birthday. Okay, great. But I need to see, I have a lot of work travel coming up, so I need to see how that nets out. And then if that weekend is available, then I'll come. Okay, great. We would love to have you. Yeah, it's just been like new house things, getting settled, just like loving the new party vibe. Do you like change? Hate. Hate. Do you think you'd like change more or less than Claudia? Claudia hates change too. No, I know.
I think I handle change better than Claudia, but I don't know if I like it. You know? Yeah. Yeah. You don't like change? Like I love it. You do? I do. That's such a good quality. Like I hate change. I'm like a creature of habit in like so many aspects of my life. Exciting. That's so scary. So just like loving being in a new environment and just all of the newness. That's crazy. Like to me, I'm just like, I hear what you're doing and I'm like, holy shit, that's so much work. Yeah. Well, it was a lot of work, but now the fruits of my labor are paying off. There's still like stuff, a little like fun projects to do. I would say like the stuff that we have to do now is like fun, like finding a cute sofa for the bedroom. Right, right, right. Like so I'm just taking my sweet time ordering a million fabric samples. So when I come, like I still stay with you, yeah?
I would love it. I would love it. Yeah. It's up to you. Like, we always switch over, like, bop around. Yeah, we bop around. That's true. So it's really up to you. Okay. Well, I feel like I'll have to because I, like, won't have been there yet. Like, it'll be his house unfamiliar. Right, right, right. It'll be, like, a fun special thing. It'll be, like, new and, like, large. Do the boys talk about me? Are they, like, where's Miss Margo? Um...
You can say no. Yeah, all the time. I actually did talk about you this morning. What'd you say? You just said that you weren't going to be here tonight for dinner. For dinner, correct. So it's about the absence of Ms. Margo. Oh, classic. I feel like that's always what you're talking about is the absence of Ms. Margo. It's not too late for you to get on a flight. Make it for dinner. I'm going to make chili. There's just like no way, but like I love you and that's a really beautiful sentiment.
But it's just going to have to be a note from me at the moment. I'm making chili. I know. That's honestly enough to get me there. I might even make cornbread. Sourdough cornbread? No, regular. Like in the box. You made something recently. What was it? Oh, the CPK tri-calorie salad. That was an inspired choice. Thank you so much for mentioning that because I didn't talk about it on the toast. Yes, my favorite menu item from California Pizzacation is this tri-calorie salad, which was like an off-menu item, but it was a salad on top of like a cheesy pizza crust and it was amazing. I don't think I ever ate anything else at CPK because that was the only thing I ate. I guess I started with like the vegetable lettuce wraps and then...
That was amazing. So good. So good. And then like it started to become like not available at CBK and now like CBK is nowhere to be found. There's one in Queens. I had a paid brand deal. Oh, love that. So I, I don't know why I had a bite of like a pizza last week and I was like, Oh my God, this crust tastes like CBK pizza crust. And I was like, Oh, I should try and make that. So I did. My first attempt was really good. There are a couple of things that I would do differently and I would totally make it again. Um, and it totally satisfied the craving. It was so exciting. It looks so good. It looks small, but not a lot of people. And it was huge. Really? Oh, the photo, it looks small. Oh my God. It was like way too. I didn't even eat all that crust. Oh, okay.
Yeah. I have a really big plate. That's why. Perhaps. It looks like it fit on a plate, but I have extra large plates. I understand. So I'd highly recommend that. And if you never had the Triclory Pizza at CPK, like, I feel sorry for you. Me too. Like, seriously. It was a sign of the times. It was. A couple people, like, DM'd me, and they were like, oh, my God. This brings me back. Yeah. Speaking of sign of the times, I went to Harry on Wednesday. Harry Styles? Yeah. It was fabulous, actually. Is that the concert that's on your story? Yeah.
I didn't watch it yet. It was from two days ago, so it's gone. I actually remember I was walking through my room trying to see what concert you were at and then something came up and I had to put my phone down. That's what happened to me. That's totally fair. I was in Harry's house. Harry's house, but not Harry's house. No, no, no. This is together together. So Harry's house could come on Namesake. Harry's house could come on Namesake, that's true. What do you think about my podcast idea, Namesake? I think it's so smart. And also I feel like it comes up a lot where there's a lot of people, who was it recently, that you replied to my story. Charlie Puth. Oh, Charlie Puth.
Yes. Charlie Puth. Charlie Puth. Charlie. Yeah, literally. That's the thing too, is that any Harry's gonna be like, oh, hi, Har. Harj. Harj. Do you watch Dancing with the Stars? So no, but I'm informed and I watch the clips and I may as well. Do you know what I mean? Well, as long as you're informed. I'm informed. I have one of my friends who is a psychotic Dancing with the Stars fan and keeps me up to date on every single thing. So I do know what is going on.
What are you watching? I'm so glad you asked because I've been watching so much TV recently. Lioness. Have you heard of it? I've heard about it. Everyone's talking about it. So good. So good. I watched that new Emmy Rossum show, Furious. Oh. Seriously, when I tell you, I hated that show. And I didn't even realize how much I hated the show as I was watching. But now that I finished it and I've been sitting with it, I've been thinking about how much I hated that show. And I'm upset that I wasted so much time on it. And also, I went from Lioness to Furious. And the production budget on Lioness versus Furious was so much higher that it made Furious not enjoyable to watch. And then I just started The Diplomat.
Okay. Yeah, I'm in, like, a weird, like, era of shows at the moment. You've been hanging out with Olivia. No, I mean, like, on such an Olivia vibe. Yeah. Yeah, no. I started to watch, like, a Harlan Coben one because she loves them. Oh, wow. Okay, maybe you should stay at Olivia's when you come down so you guys can have, like, movie night. Yeah, it's so true. We do love a movie night when I stay there. Harlan Coben? Harlan Coben. And want to know the worst part? Do you want to know the worst part? Is that I started the show to watch it and I realized I've already seen it. That is so Olivia. I know. Yeah, fool me once or whatever. So, yeah, that's what I've been watching. But, yeah, no, I'm not, not, like, reality TV stuff, you know?
Yeah, that's all I watch. I know. And then you asked me to explain reality TV stuff. You were so interested to be informed on Let's Marry Harris. As someone who was really not informed, as an outsider and seeing some stuff online sometimes, I was so confused. So I went to my sister. And I explained it well. And she sent me voice notes, and she explained it well. That was a crazy time, Let's Marry Harris. Such a weird.
basis for a show yeah it didn't have to be married like they didn't it could have no it could have just been a dating show no where ended in engagement and you're going to marry yeah of course and but he's with he's still currently with the other one the girl that he met on his honeymoon allegedly oh i thought he was someone from the show but just no no not from the show we don't know who it is at least not in my to my knowledge not here it's not public i don't think so interesting maybe people figured it out but i don't know and like remind me are you like a fan of harry jousey So I was and I am, but the show was not good for his image, I would say. And if his image was starting to be like rehabilitated before the show and in the early episodes of the show where it's like, he's so serious and he wants to get married and he lost his dad and it's making him realize he wants kids and a family. And then like, that's just not how it wound up. Right. So it's kind of, it was like hard to root for him. I understand. That's totally fair. Yeah. So it's complicated. Like for us Harry fans. It sounds complicated. I feel, I feel sorry for you guys that you have to take on that burden. It's okay. We're a small but mighty group. Literally.
Okay, let's get into the stories. Do you think, because I really want to talk about Taylor's music, because that's really, like, what I've been thinking about this morning, and I'm sure for you as well. Did you listen? I did. So, without further ado-da-da-da-doo, it is time for the fast-sized stories that you-da-da-doo need to know.
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Taylor Swift sings about escaping a toxic relationship as she drops her new single, Patient Zero. So as we discussed, she put out four new songs from her encore album of The Life of a Showgirl. So The Life of a Showgirl, the encore came out today. Four new songs. We have Patient Zero, Cleveland, Pink Clouding, and Babylon. We will go one by one, starting with Patient Zero. And the music video came out. No, no, it comes out at the VMAs on Sunday. Oh, yes. Yeah, no. I was like, oh, I didn't watch the music video and do all my homework. Thank God. Okay, I did all my homework. Professor, I did the reading. Thank God. Patient Zero is the lead single from the encore of The Life of a Showgirl, the encore. What do you think? Okay, so Patient Zero in particular.
is like growing on me as I listen more however I don't know I'm having a hard time I'm not gonna lie I'm having a hard time though Cleveland I have to say like I love like okay so you know what let's start let's look at the four as a whole and let's start with the positives I don't want to start with patient zero yeah I want to not I would like to start with Cleveland even though a discourse online is like that people are hating Cleveland like I'm getting DMS being mad at me that I like Cleveland and I'm like okay well I like Cleveland well actually we have to talk about patient zero because I have to talk about what the song's about patient zero is about like you know, somewhat her ex is now ex calls her and is like, you know, he did this happen to you. Yeah. And like bonding with your ex. I'm like, you know, I know because I was patient zero. And I'm like, really? You just got married in your first song after your wedding is about some toxic ex relationship that whoever it is, it's certainly been played out a million times over. Like that's really what we're leading with after like this joyous occasion. I know. Like I want to like I want you like what I want from her is the similar vibe, but completely opposite sentiment of, you know, that song Stop the Wedding. Yeah. And it's like fun and whatever. Like I want that song, but had a happy version from Taylor post wedding. That's what I want.
Yeah, or even like where's my husband, but like here's my husband. Yeah, literally similar vibes. I love that, first of all, because it's really, you know, I really hate to go down this path because I don't agree with it, but it's really starting to beg the question can like happy people in love make good art. Okay, can I say like Luke Holmes makes good art? Well, damn. And like he doesn't have any like tumultuous whatever. He's in a happy loving relationship and he has like such banger songs about being in love. So many banger songs about like how much he loves his wife. Yeah, and so. Great point. Yeah, so I do think it's possible. So back to the positive. So I heard Patient Zero and I was honestly.
Yeah. Yeah. And then I heard Cleveland. I heard Cleveland and I was happy. Me too. Because we got a song about her present relationship and it's obviously about Travis and she's like so happy and like boastful. Boastful. But I do like that a lot of it is like satire. Like some of the lines are just like her like poking fun of like.
at herself, but also at, like, whatever I'm saying about her. It's like, someone said it's like, there's, one of the lyrics, I think, is like, she has so much money, why does she dress like trash? And, like, that's what people say. And it's like, she, like, put that in the song. That's what people say. Which is actually a great reference, because I feel the complete opposite. Like, are you, like, it's this happy song about, like, how much her man loves her, even though everybody thinks she's a loser. And it's like, really, the majority of people don't think that. And the whole world was rooting for your relationship. And the whole world was obsessed with your relationship. And, like, maybe some nasty people were saying some nasty things. Or even, like, maybe, like, 1% of the discourse was, like, remotely negative, being like, why is he with her? But also, why is she with him? Where's the song about
much say in your song when literally no couple on earth has ever been more championed and loved and excited for than the two of them. No, I agree. And also in the bridge, there's one part where she's like, you just have to find someone who doesn't find you completely insufferable. And it's like, well, that's funny. Like that's sad. Yeah. You know, what she thinks about herself is that she's insufferable.
Yeah. So the chorus is really cute because it's like something we can all agree on. My baby likes what he likes. He already took me to Cleveland and showed me the heights. So hate all you like, this is the love of my life. So like, I love that. I love that. But then all of the verses are like, she's not as hot as she was, but she was only a four. She was never a girl's girl. She's dressed like a whore. And then it's supposed to be whore, but she doesn't say it. And all of a sudden she doesn't curse anymore, which I love that. Thank you. I don't have to listen to the clean version. And with all that money, why she dressed like trash when she smiles, it's annoying. And have you seen her? And it's supposed to be ass. I feel like people have said that though. I will give her that. Yeah. No, I agree. You know, and definitely the worst people have said.
Some of these things. I know. And it's like, like, to your point, it's like, that's like 3% of the world. Like, let's talk about the 97%. Yeah. Like, what was it like to be in a relationship that the entire world was completely obsessed with? Like, you literally changed the sport of football. And it worked out. Yeah. Yeah. So, and it also reminds me of shaking it off. I say that to me. Like, that's what people, like, just all just like, she's obsessed with what the mean things people say about her. I know. And sure, people say mean things about you so short, like, right about that. But what about, like, all of the great things? Like, you are seriously the most famous person on earth and the most famous couple on earth. Beloved. Beloved billionaire.
but other than that I liked like the beat of that song and it felt better to me agreed then we have pink clouding which I which just felt like like mishmash like like yeah sonically like something I've heard before and not in a good or bad way like it's not sticking with me like I can't place it and the lyrics like met the magenta sunrise future forever intertwined through the rosewood on the fire neither of us knew at the time that I was a liar like I don't know what it's about I don't I just feel like it's words I saw something that it's like I saw something that was like patient zero is about like not being in a toxic relationship. Cleveland is about what it's like to be in a healthy relationship. Pink clouding is about like recognizing that you hurt people. And Babylon is about, I don't remember, but it was like the closing of a story. I don't know. Yeah. I had seen something like Babylon was about like knowing that you're never going to be like heartbroken like that again. Oh yeah. Of like that you're married and it's done. And like, that's the encore. Yeah.
I loved Babylon. Now I am privy to love anything like Call of Babylon or about Babel and Tower of Babel and Babylon. But I also really just liked it. I didn't listen closely to know what it's about. Yeah. I also just like the beat. The intro just got me hooked. Yeah. It was nice and pretty. And it sounds like one of her songs. I just can't place what it is. Yeah.
But here's what I'll say is obviously I'm happy to get new Taylor always and forever. I really, really just want debut Taylor's version. Like that's what I want right now personally. And I need that to happen. I want the love songs, Travis's version. Right. I want debut Taylor's version with like her vault songs now.
Also, people are saying, people, I saw one thing, that Patience Yerkes, of course, it's like, who is this about? I don't think it's about Joe Alwyn because he hasn't had a breakup. Neither has Maddie since everything happened. People are saying Joe Jonas and Sophie Turner. I was thinking Joe Jonas and Sophie Turner or Dakota Johnson. And also Dakota's in the music video. Dakota Johnson and Hoomst. Well, so here's the thing. And obviously, I don't know if we have to believe it, but Taylor called into a radio interview and she was saying that this song- This morning? Yeah. Yeah, this morning.
She was saying that she was like sitting with a group of friends and like one of the friends was like, oh, this person just called me because like they broke up with XYZ and like wanted to talk about it. And then like everybody else was like, oh my God, that's happened to me. Like blah, blah, blah. And so then she was like, oh, that's like a good idea for a song. Maybe she's just saying that and it's a cover to not be about people specifically. But she's saying that she got inspiration from those around her. I love that. I feel like that was a lot of folklore and evermore. I think that's what a lot of artists do when like maybe things are quiet in their personal life. But you don't do that under the framework of the life of a showgirl, which is the life of you. You. Agreed. So that would be under, you know, like Carrie Underwood really sick storyteller. And it was like, you know, about Jenny.
We weren't thinking that's Carrie. She's just telling this story of Jenny. All that money could never save Jenny from the devil living in his eye. So it can be done. I'm fine with that. But everything with Taylor is so personal. The life of a showgirl is literally her telling us this is her life as she experienced it while she was in her showgirl era. So you can't now say, oh, it's about my friend. And also, so she was sitting around with her friends. Is that the trip she went on with Shell Bag and Max?
When she, no. She said her, Shellback and Max. Shellback. Shellback and Max, who could come on namesake. Yes. They wanted to celebrate the amazing success of Tee Loa, so they went on a trip to Sweden, and they were just there to celebrate. But, of course, there was a studio, and they're songwriters, so they fell into a couple songwriting, and that's what the armor is. You didn't read that caption? I did, sorry. I just, like, didn't, I wasn't thinking, like, girl's trip when I was reading that. Like, I think it came from, like, her bachelorette party or something.
Got it. But again, I think that's a crazy, like what you are going to put, what she puts out at any given moment, you're all reading into. Will be speculated. For your first song, after you get married, to be, oh, it was just like a random funny thought we had, Madass Patience, or like everything with you is so intentional. No, I obviously agree. But also, Dakota Johnson, though, recently has been doing the Sophie Turner of like going to Taylor Swift's apartment right after she broke up with Role Model and like, you know, Taylor's like been taking care of her.
But no, but that wouldn't be like the common ex. Yeah, they don't have the common ex. But it also just kind of role model model they gave for two minutes. It would maybe be Chris Martin. I like loved Dakota Johnson and role model. Like it made so much sense to me. But I think the like, the real ex is Chris Martin. Yeah, of course. But like they broke up so long ago at this point. And also like for, you want to put out these four songs, like fine, what would take, but like again, for Patience Zero to be the single when it's so clearly.
Right. But we all know that she chooses the worst songs as her singles. Why? I started thinking about that today. Why? I don't know. Like I seriously don't know it doesn't make any sense to me. Like especially on her other albums when it's like so crystal clear. Like what the song should have been. Like Lover, Cruel Summer. Are you fucking kidding me? Like hello. Antihiro? Yeah. No. Midnight's. Yeah. That was bad. Shake It Off. I mean. I know but you know I love Shake It Off. Yeah I know. I know you are Shake It Off. Apologies. It's true.
Do the boys know Shake It Off yet? It's come on a couple times. Sometimes I'll put it on if I'm trying to get a fun song in for Mama, but they don't know it. I feel like I could see them taking to it. Yeah, also it's on the Sing soundtrack, so I think if your kids sing, then they will shake it off, but they've never seen Sing, but maybe it's time. Oh my God, they would love it. Yeah, that's a good one. That is such a good movie. So that's the new encore.
I'm curious. I feel like a lot's going to come out of the VMAs. Like, I just feel like it's going to be like a buzzy VMA is the vibe I'm getting like with Taylor. Um, and just like, I feel like other things I've just been seeing is like, it's just going to be like stuff's going on. Okay. So I don't know. Yeah. I wonder like what the, like people think. Sound off in the comments, like on your thoughts of encore. Yeah. All I've been seeing is just hate for Cleveland so far. It's misdirected. It's misdirected. Patient zero.
Fired at patient zero. Okay, are you ready for our next story? I am. This is a crazy, very sad story. Melania Giudice had, quote, suicidal thoughts and mental breakdown during an airport clash with her mom and her sister. So a video we shared yesterday of Melania Giudice at the airport with her mom, Teresa Giudice, real housewives of New Jersey, and her sister, Gia. Police were called, and it was said that she was having suicidal thoughts and a mental breakdown when she had a heated encounter with her mom and her sister at Tampa International Airport in Florida on Wednesday. Page six can exclusively confirm. Cops were alerted that multiple females need police ASAP and that she got away, that she was separated from a counselor who was-
also on the scene according to an incident report obtained by page six she was last she was allegedly last seen 30 minutes before her mom saw her run away about 10 minutes later she was located and escorted by police to her gate then shortly a video went up on social media that was then taken down of melania like filming her mom and her sister um like yelling at them and teresa just being like i love you i love you i love you and melania being like shut the fuck up um she was yelling i'm like this is what we do now this is what i do now because i guess because like the police were there so it was just a bit of an altercation at the airport yeah it's very sad well you know that melania's best friend just died Right. So I wonder if that's like playing into like her sort of mental and emotional state. Yeah. She's also been going through just a bad period because even before that she was arrested for domestic assault. She punched someone. The report had the initials LR which could be anyone but also could be Teresa's new husband's name is Luis Reles and his son is Luis Reles Jr. I believe. So it's like I think perhaps someone in the family. Interesting. So this is just like it's a string of like troubled behavior. Troubled behavior. How old is she?
She is 20. Oh, oh my God. I don't know why she thought, I thought she was like 15. No, she's 20. Well, cause we've seen her grow up. Right, right. That's really sad. Like I, I feel bad for them. And I have to say like, I actually met Gia and she's like lovely at like, at lovely and like seems like very like good head on her shoulders. I was like actually kind of taken aback by it. Yes, I think that's always been people's impression of her. I think she like grew up fast and young. She's very mature and now she's on Next Gen and she has her podcast and she's really doing well for herself. And I would say good head on her shoulders is a good way to describe her. I don't do you? No.
Are you next gen? I feel like I'm not next gen. I feel like you don't watch housewives. Yeah. You would watch next gen. No, I feel like if I were to watch a show, it would be like summer house, but I don't. And I won't. Yeah. You know, you don't like reality TV. I don't think I like reality TV. So like I still haven't even finished and I actually was really enjoying it, but I just Earl meets world. I know.
Like, I just, like, haven't finished it. How did you not finish it? Because I saw, like, what's worth seeing, like, online. And so then I'm like, okay, I don't need to, like, spend my time watching. Wow. I know. I've been meaning to. I will. But, like, even, like, Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, like, I don't think I ever finished the second season. Yeah. I understand why, like, you don't watch that. I feel like that's not your vibe. But, like, Alex are also your vibe. No, I know. And I do love her. And I do love Reale. So, yeah. So, this is very sad. I feel very bad for Teresa. I feel like she's handling it, like, as best as you can. I know. She can't catch a break.
Yeah. No, this is just like, this is very, very sad. Very sad. Prayers. Yeah. I hope she gets the help that she needs. I agree. Our next story is just so interesting that it came out today because I would never pick it if Claudia were here, but I have to pick it. I have to pick it because you are here because Dove Cameron got married to her man, who I didn't know she had a man and that this is her man, main skin front man, Damiano David.
Okay. I have so many things to say. One, there's a story that I keep waiting for you to bring up and I'm really just so curious to see if you picked it, but I'm not going to say until we're done. And if you don't, I'm going to be so confused. Wait, you have, okay. After this story, you're going to say it. Okay, fine. I did see that. I didn't know that it was the front man to main skin. Do people know that like you and I have like lore with Jeff Cameron? If you've been around for a really long time, you do. If you've been watching the show since the beginning, but if you're like sort of new here, Margo and I.
are obsessed with and we're obsessed with now it's like you know sort of over so yeah what's there to do but like we love the descendants franchise no like love no one has ever loved it more or see it as many times as we have like well it's because it's Kenny Ortega uh-huh and one and two are so good three was not good but every every like trilogy has a flop yeah so we had inadvertently love Dove Cameron love Dove Cameron like we have kept up with her in every relationship in every like it's not been a smooth ride no she has she has had troubles yeah And she's gone through like a lot of different eras and like figuring out like, you know, who she is post-Disney and all of that. She's had a couple different relationships. She actually always dates like interesting people, even if at the time I don't know, if always at the time I don't know them. I don't know them, yeah. And then I'm like, oh, like Thomas Doherty from, he was in Descendants, but then he was also in Gossip Girl. He was in Tell Me Lies. Oh, right, he was. He was the good one, Leo. Leo from Tell Me Lies, that's who she's named. Wow, good memory. Like, I would never remember that. Yeah, no, and yeah, I'm happy for her that she's married. Like, I was not obsessed with her look. So they wore like matching suits. They got married in Italy, so it wasn't, you know, gonna be. Why? Everyone gets married in Italy. Hailey Paige.
Why? Everyone gets married in Italy and they look gorgeous. She's also like, she's alternative. Yeah, okay, so say that. Like, them getting married in Italy isn't reason to not wear a fucking dress. Yeah, well, they wore it. Imagine, she looks beautiful. I mean, she's like really one of the most beautiful people on the planet. Oh, she's unbelievably gorgeous. How could she be that? But first of all, Mainskin, like Eurovision. They won Eurovision. Did you know that? Yeah. And Damiano David, I actually know who that is because I've been listening to like one of his songs. Like, I identified that I liked it and it's on my like song, so I see his name like every day in my car. The first time, do you know it? I would maybe have to hear it. I love it. Do you know that I always thought that Mainskin was like seriously a band from like the 80s? I know.
I don't know why. I didn't realize that they were like new and young. I think it's because they did a cover of like Beggin. Beggin, Beggin, Beggin. Which is an old song. So then when they redid it, you probably just thought they were the ones who sang it. Originally sang it, yeah. But yeah, I'm pretty sure Mainskin is from Eurovision. Like I know that. Like I'm 99% sure. I mean, I feel like you're probably right. Yeah. And they sang Zieti Ebroni. Yeah, they won in the Netherlands in 2021. Wow. Okay. And like fairly recently.
Yeah. Crazy. I didn't know he was dating Dove and I didn't know that they got married. So I'm so glad they got married today when you're here so we can talk about it. No, me neither. I'm so happy for her. Like I feel like she like found her peace and I feel like that's all she's really ever wanted. Yeah. I think also things like perception of her shifted a lot when she did Armchair Expert a few years ago. Yeah. And she's so smart and well-spoken. Well-spoken. And she has a crazy story and I think like people got to know her who didn't know her and those of us who didn't know her like saw her in a different light and she's obviously like very mature and very like ready and not, you know, just the Disney girl that everyone knew and loved. No, I agree. Yeah.
To Mazel Tov. To the Davids. To the happy couple. To the Davids. To the Davids. Okay, what's the story you thought I was going to choose? Sydney Sweeney and Belmont Comelli. Okay, that is the next story. I'm actually bummed that it's the next story because I thought there was something huge that I was missing. Oh, no. And honestly, this was sort of a last minute addition. We don't always talk about casting news, but because you're Belmont Comelli's spokesperson, and this sounds really good, and it's Friday, it did make the cut. Yeah.
Off-campus star Belmont Cameli joins Sidney Sweeney in Sony's Hollow. So Sony Pictures looks to have found its Brom Bones for its upcoming Sleepy Hollow movie. Sources tell Deadline that Belmont Cameli is set to join Sidney Sweeney in the studio's adaptation of Hollow, the project based on filmmaker Lindsay Anderson Beer's forthcoming debut novel. Okay, so the book hasn't come out yet? No, is that interesting? She's also attached to Direct as well as Adapt her novel, which will be published by Putnam in fall 2027. The novel sold to Putnam in highly competitive and will be globally translated at launch. Why is this- Already being Adapted to a movie. And also, why is it already like-
known to be like a game like why is there a huge bidding war on an author's first book i don't know and also i'm confused on if there's a script like why do you have to release a book if the book isn't already out no no i'm beyond confused we're gonna have to do some investigating okay okay like nothing will ever like be more hyped than this no i know and like a filmmaker okay so she wrote the netflix film sierra burgess is a loser as well as pet cemetery and chaos walking don't know those Yeah, she founded a production company with two other people who announced that it's going to help produce the new adaptation of Lord of the Flies. But like still, that doesn't really explain like all the buzz. Should I ask chat? I don't know. So the novel is a reimagining of the legend of Sleepy Hollow. Told through the perspective of Katrina, Katerina Van Tassel, played by Sidney Sweeney, reframing one of literature's most iconic heroines, positions her as not only a romantic prize, but essential figure and dangerous mystery and seductive supernatural love triangle. The story blends gothic atmosphere, psychological intrigue, and erotic thriller elements into contemporary high concept reinvention of the classic tale. Okay, what's the legend of Sleepy Hollow?
You've never heard of Sleepy Hollow? I've heard of it, but I've also heard of Stars Hollow. What's the one from Gilmore Girls? Stars Hollow is Gilmore Girls. Is it? Yes. It's Stars, right? I think so. I never watched Gilmore Girls. What's Gilmore Girls Hollow? Stars Hollow, Gilmore Girls. Yeah, you're right. It's a fictional town in Connecticut featured in the television series of Gilmore Girls. Okay, so that's the only Hollow I know. Yeah, Sleepy Hollow, no. I don't know what it's about, but I've always heard of Sleepy Hollow. It's like a Tim Burton thing. Okay. This is sounding worse and worse.
And it's a gothic atmosphere starring Sidney Sweeney and Belmont Camelli. I want to see them in full color. In full living color. I do think that this is like supposed to be a kind of like thriller mystery vibes. Like I don't think it's supposed to be like her movie with Glenn Powell. What was it called? Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. Oh yeah, no, I don't think it's wrong. Which is also good because like that one got just such a bad rap. I never saw it, but it also wasn't even compelling for me to see because it is so obvious, you know? Well yeah, but I'm just like so intrigued by Sidney Sweeney's collecting these off-campus men like Infinity Stones because she cast Stephen Kalen, Dean, for The Housemaid.
Right. Yeah. And so like, that's kind of crazy. That is crazy. I didn't realize that. I love, I love that. No, I mean, I love that. But he's just, he's not the main guy. He's like her boyfriend in the sequel for House Made Secret. Yeah. Yeah. Which I love that for him. Yeah. Okay. So how do you feel about them, her and Belmont in Sleepy Hollow? I mean, I'm obsessed. Like, I like, I love Sydney Sweeney. And like, we all know, like, I'm Belmont Kamali's biggest fan. So like, why not? Like, did you see Tyler Cameron's dance to Dancing with the Stars? Of course I did. I mean, I dig your proof as the president of the Belmont Kamali film.
Yeah, I approved. It's a good idea, I think, like by Sharna or whatever to like do that and like play into that. Like I think that was smart. You heard it was Chicks in the Office idea. Was it? Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, I saw them talking about it because they were there. Did you see them dancing like in the... No, I can't think of it. You probably did because you don't watch so you're not entirely informed. I'm not entirely informed. But they were there as like Tyler's friends and family and in the...
in the dance yeah no in the dance he like goes and dances in front of like his little family section yeah because it's like girls you know yeah yeah um and then they were talking on their podcast how like they had this idea for him oh oh it's that was a really good idea like amazing amazing idea like i love that because it's like it's not at the point where it's too overdone yet it's definitely like gonna get there but like no it's not there were two things like and that's what i said to claudia like when he danced in the show i had already known i had already seen the video from the kid laurie concert i saw that video first yeah oh you thought okay I hadn't seen it on campus, but I saw the video. I saw everyone posting it. And I thought it was cool, actually, even though Claudia hated it. I had no issue with it. I love it. He's obviously recreating his viral dance from his show. And when I finally watched the show, I didn't even realize that was the moment. Because in the show, it's quite literally 0.7 seconds. No, nothing happened. He didn't even do a good job in the dance-off for drunk Shakespeare. So how did that get pickup?
Um, because like people are obsessed. So like they'll find like anything they can. And then when they do like slow it down and like duplicate it, like into a fan edit, like it's really great. Okay. Okay. When they're doing it like that. Yeah. When you're doing it like that, like you obviously get consumed by it. And like the man just loves to dance. Like that's it. Yeah. So, so far we have like just that one, then the one at the concert and then Tyler Cameron. Like there's, I don't think it's overdone. No, I don't think it's overdone at all. Just let him dance. Yeah. Let the boy dance. Maybe he'll be dancing in hollow. Or maybe he'll be dancing sooner than you think. Wink. Wink. On Dancing with the Stars? No.
No. Dancing with the Satchies? No. Would you ever do Dancing with the Stars? For sure. But I think I would be like Sarah Jane Nader. Like, I would get kicked off on the first night because, like, I'm a Netflix sister and, like, nobody would care about me. But, like, I would totally do it. Perfect comparison. Except if you danced really well, you couldn't go home really night one because your score would, like, carry you through. Maybe, maybe. But would you dance really well? No. Like, no. Like, I just know how to go, like, you know, like. Yeah, we actually don't need you to go and Dance with the Stars because, like, we've seen it already. Yeah, like.
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I guess lifestyle news because Barbie is getting some backlash. I want to get your thoughts. Have you seen this? I have. I just saw it this morning. I have. First ever Hanukkah Barbie sparks both outrage and excitement with her look, which includes a different nose than the other Barbies. You know, some saying a bigger nose. So this week, Mattel debuted its first official Hanukkah doll as part of the legacy toy brand's holiday sweaters collection. The $28 toy is part of the company's upcoming holiday sweater collection, which includes two other Barbies, one who's blonde, one who is black. They're dressed in red and green Christmas sweaters that light up when you press a hidden button. They, you know, have...
Barbie's hair and shiny lips um the Hanukkah Barbie is a little different okay like wait first there is her outfit she's wearing a blue sweater with a giant menorah baby blue dreidels and tiny snowflakes along with blue stars of David um she's also wearing what appears to be Uggs and um she's got a schnaz Okay, am I blind? Like Jackie, I didn't see anything wrong with her nose. Like it wasn't that big. So here's what I will say. They obviously tweaked the nose because Barbie, like the other Barbie noses have all the same noses. They're like teeny tiny. Yeah. This one is different. This wasn't like a schnaz. If you just showed me the doll and didn't say they like enlarged the nose or anything, like, and you just showed me this Hanukkah doll. First of all, she's beautiful. She's gorgeous. She kind of looks like me.
It's like representation. And I do think she looks like a beautiful Jewish girl. So like before all of this, if you just showed me that we're making Hanukkah doll, you guys, antisemitism is so fucking bad. We don't need to look for shit like this. I think the words you are looking for are, thank you. We're always fighting for inclusion. We just like want to be part of it. And like, I don't think that they did this in a way to be antisemitic. I really don't. Like it's fucking Barbie. And so I have no problem with this. Honestly, the bigger issue is that like, I feel like, like I'm not obsessed with like her outfit.
I don't like any of their outfits. That's what Christmas and holiday sweaters are. They're ugly. They're ugly Christmas sweaters. Fine, that's so true. Yeah, no, guys, I have no problem with this. And like, again, it's not like it's a crazy schnoz that it's like offensive. No, it's not like a hook nose like Nakamura wore. No, literally, exactly. Like, it's, it's just, it looks like a regular nose to me. Like, yeah, I think, I mean, they definitely, like, side by side, but like, I wasn't doing that. They definitely stepped into some stuff like trying to like, you know, get into like features and whatnot. And they could have just like done the same face and the sweater, but they like try to be.
authentic. I don't know. They're like damned if they do, damned if they don't. I'm just happy that there's a Hanukkah party. She's beautiful. And I really hope that this doesn't like hinder them from like doing more. Yeah. I think everybody like calm down. I can give you a list of things to go be offended about instead. But the only other thing I'll say is that Barbie is Jewish. The founder of Barbie Ruth Handler is Jewish. And I think she like made the dolls like it was for her daughter. So why you got to make Barbie Jewish if she's already Jewish? You know what I mean? Like why should I change her face if the original Barbie, if that face is the original. Yeah, it's, that's an original. So I actually, that sort of bothers me more because now you're saying, oh, Barbie was never Jewish and here is a Jewish Barbie. That's erasure.
That's erasure. Now we're getting into erasure. Now we're getting into erasure. Which I find disgusting. Yeah. Which, like, okay, never mind. Like, you're wrong for me. Like, you're telling the wrong story. Right. Because Barbie's a Jewess. Jewess. But no, other than that, like, she's beautiful. And if she was, like, really ugly and busted. Oh, my God. If she looks like the face that Macklemore did, like, that two face, like, then that's what we're acting like it is. And it's quite literally not. It's not at all. So I think it's really cute. And thank you so much for including us in your holiday collection. And we're just happy to be here. And that's all, really.
I wish Claudia were here today. I want to know what she thinks about this. You can ask her on Monday. Yeah, hopefully it'll come up on Monday. Yeah. Well, those were the fast-sized stories, and I feel as though you needed to know them. For sure. We definitely needed to discuss them. Now it's time for Queenie and Weenie of the Week. Miss Margo, do you have a Queenie and Weenie for us? I have a Queenie. I don't really know if I have a Weenie, even though I feel like everyone's just constantly being a constant Weenie at all times. The problem is they're worse than Weenies. Yeah, yeah. It was just a Weenie? Like a Weenie weird thing somebody did this week. Yeah, I've just been struggling with that. Everyone who listens knows how to struggle.
With, like, calling somebody a weenie? Yeah, yeah, because, like, people do far worse things, but they're actually, like, too bad. Yeah, like, weenie's supposed to be funny, and then it's, like, if you get all serious, it's, like, you've missed the point. From a weenie perspective, I have to think about that, but I have my queenie, and, like, I'm really, like, I feel like it's a really good one. Okay, who's your queenie?
Lily Reinhart. I don't know if you guys have spoken about her on the show this week, but have you been seeing her press store looks? I saw one of them. That was President's Daughter. Yeah. And then I saw a headline that she's making iconic rom-com looks like her press store looks. And she's fucking eating down, yo. She is crushing. Did you read The Love Hypothesis? You did. Oh, I did. I'm very excited for the movie. I feel like it's gonna be really good. But on this press store, she's been recreating these iconic moments and she's been doing such a good job. She looks so unbelievably pargy. She just looks amazing right now and her looks have been so...
gorgeous and like i've just been eating it up and it's really just like in my opinion queen of behavior that's beautiful yeah my queenie will be claudia for announcing oh yeah that's her pregnancy and you know how how hard she's been working That's really sweet. To make it through. Jackie, that's beautiful. Thank you. I mean, it could always be us. I mean, it could always be us. That's what's the actual hard part about Queenie and Queenies. Like, we're the Queenies. I know, but I can't say that all the time. No, you can't say it all the time. And you're the Queenie for joining me today. Thank you for having me. You know, I love to be here. Yeah, no, this was so fun. I needed a hit of Satchie. I hit a Satchie. Like, you know, I just need to, just get on the plane, Margo. Just get on a plane. Do you want to book it? If I book it, will you come? If I build it. What if you like show up for dinner and nobody knows that you're coming? It's not too late. It's not too late. Nobody's going to listen to this. I know. I already thought about
Nobody in our family is going to listen. No, literally like we can say the craziest shit and like nobody's going to listen to it. Certainly not to the better. I'm like, you don't listen to me. No, no, no. And I'm not offended that nobody. We don't want them to listen to it. No, I only listen to it when one of my moles tells me that you guys are talking shit about me. Yeah. Yeah. Love that. Yeah. It's a great way to get more listeners. We need you. Yeah. Okay. I'll book your flight. We love you so much. We will see you on Monday. Thank you so much for being toasters for.
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