The Horrific Murder of Dorothy Eggers

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Yeah, sure one out Shit whenever you're listening to this is what time it is. Okay. Yeah, okay. So that's where we are I was like a Ramona, okay, okay We have a couple of things we wanted to get to right away Yes, some stuff has gone down this week and whoa and this actually these two things are just like a couple of the things that have gone down We're gonna have to space it out.

Yeah, I feel like we can we're just hitting what we can hit right now But the ones that really stuck out to us this week are I'm sure a lot of you have heard of this little six-year-olds paisley Shultis who had been missing since she was four she went missing in 2019 And if she's from right outside of Ithaca, New York And she was found the other day in the home of her non-custodial parents Yep, and her grandfather Kimberly Cooper is the non-custodial mother Kirk Shelton's junior is the non-custodial father and Kirk Shelton senior is the grandfather now investigators had been at this home That's the scariest thing to me. Oh, it's this story is like really right out of a horror novel Yeah, it's like a really nightmarish Harry Potter scenario because it involves under a staircase Mm-hmm. So obviously people have been searching for this little girl. She went missing in 2019 at four years old her legal guardians Have been searching for her for years two and a half years and so they had been at this home several times because of course These parents lost custody of this child.

So of course you're gonna go back to this home to make sure now Investigators have been let in the house They never got a full search warrant because they just didn't have anything except for like hearsay to really do it Right, they would let them in the house But every single time they let them in the house They wouldn't let them in the basement which I'm like alarm belts people But they wouldn't let them in the basement wouldn't let them do a full search and they were always they said very adversarial with them Like they were always very like you're harassing us like we don't know where she is we haven't seen her since this which like all eyes Yeah, and every single time that the investigators were in this home looking for her She was hidden under stairs like being silent the basement stairs and they said it was like cold They said it was wet cold and filthy and you see photos of it It is filthy and there's disgusting blankets that have been washed ever in there. Yeah, it's horrifying that a child of four to six years old Had been shoved under these stairs. They said at times She must have been under there for at least like four hours at a time I didn't even hear that heart silent. Oh, she must have been so scared Yeah, and the trauma that she's gonna have to work for the rest of her life probably well whenever they would go here at times They were led into the basement.

They were only like so far in and there was like an apartment set up in the basement kind of thing Oh, okay And they said there was a room and it was set up for a little girl and on the wall It had the name Paisley and the bed looked like it had been slept in and they'd be like what is this about right is she here? Where is she and they would just be like no? We set this up in case she comes back. Yeah, and they had to believe they couldn't do anything further because yeah What are you gonna do you have nothing?

You can't just go barging down doors as much as I would love for them to have done that But the yeah, it's Sagertees police chief Joseph Sonegra I believe his last name is okay He said so police had shown up this time He said one of the officers saw this staircase that was like outside of the child's room Mm-hmm, and he said it was something he just something struck him as weird about that staircase And he said then he saw a pair of tiny feet through the staircase Oh, and he said now Sonegra said the silence as so they started pulling this thing apart Yeah, because they were like oh, yeah, they had a warrant at this time So they were able to they started pulling this the wood staircase apart They said as they were pulling the stairs apart. They said this child never made a sound What they're ripping apart these staircases and she's staying dead silent and she's probably been told I can't range And Kimberly the non-custodial mother She was in the staircase with her and neither one of them made a sound and Sonegra said quote The question that needs to be answered is what she was told by these people that would keep her so still in quiet while the cops are Walking up and down the steps while they're taking the steps apart. Yeah, and according to CNN article I read about this the door that led to the staircase was in her room Which was in the basement and it was in like the door in her room opened into a short hallway And then led into the secret compartment under the stairs. What the fuck?

Yeah, so this was clearly like man-made Oh, yeah, and they said it looked like that staircase had been built specifically for this I heard that yeah, and they said quote in our opinion the Sonegra again He said in our opinion that location was used probably each and every time that we sent an officer to the residence That is unreal now Kimberly Cooper the non-custodial mother was charged with two misdemeanors custodial interference in the second degree and endangering the welfare of a child She's actually she was in jail lot like she was still in jail because she had a prior arrest warrant through family court So she's killing it. Also. I'm like kidnapping. Where's that?

Yeah, how did they we're gonna throw kidnapping charge in there? How did they get her? I'm not sure that story has not come out yet I'm dying to know what happened two years ago. Well, I'm wondering if they had some kind of visitation That's what I'm wondering.

Yeah, but then it's kidnapping isn't on the table It's a visitation but wouldn't that still be kidnapping you're the non-custodial parent You can't take that kid I'm trying to think if Noah Claire if his father was charged with kidnapping or that's the thing These things are weird and they're hard and sometimes I think they go with whatever charges gonna get them to where they want to end up Kind of that is very true So who knows if more charges will be added right? I don't know because again. We have not heard the story I can't find it anywhere I don't think it's been released yet of what happened two and a half years ago how she went missing She was reported missing right that was a thing that happened by her legal guardian So and we don't know why I don't know if there was a supervised visit I don't know anything or there could have even been unsupervised you never know it I think it really depends on why they were taken away in the first place Yeah, but I also do we know that at all why they were taken away in the first place No, we don't know anything about that yet I think everybody is wanting to know I mean obviously your child is taken away That's not a good thing and it's not a great mark on parenting here But and when you look at these the staircase, it's a filthy disgusting mess Oh, you're willing to shove your four to six year old into a staircase for four hours First of all, that's that's beyond my comprehension Second of all if they were doing this out of some kind of love for her that they just wanted their child back and they wanted to give her a life And that's like one year traumatizing her and it's illegal. You can't steal this child back.

I do the work to get her back, right? But also I would have thought they would made this area where she has to hide a wonderful comfy area And they're trying to be good parents and not a filthy wet disgusting staircase that you're gonna hide her in So none of it none of it because I've seen like you know art like we don't know we don't know what happened It's like yeah, no, we don't know what happened. So this happened. Yeah, and this is not okay You don't show the six-year-old under a filthy disgusting wet staircase.

No for hours at a time like that's I'm sorry. Nothing about that is okay So I have zero sympathy for these people and I don't know if we mention it But I saw that she was like obviously like checked out at the hospital and she was totally fine Yeah, I was gonna get to that at the end But she so Kirk Shelters Jr. and Kirk Shelters senior the non-custodial father and the grandfather They were each charged with custodial interference in the first degree which is a felony and endangering the welfare of a child Which is misdemeanor so based on those charges it seems like they were the ones that it seems like it seems like that But again, we got a way for more to come out She was Paisley was brought back to her legal guardian and her sister who had been searching for her for 2.5 years Police like you said did say she was in good health. She was happy to be with her legal guardian She recognized her sister, which was like hurt my heart.

Yeah, they did say though The police she said she was very nervous obviously when police took her from the home and they recognized and appreciate that She was probably taught to fear them in the situations who knows what she was told She's a six-year-old and she doesn't know what's going on at no matter what six This is what you've known even if it's even if it's a bad situation This is all you've known you're just being taken away And so they said they were driving to the station and she saw McDonald's and I guess she saw it and was like Oh, I think I had that before and I haven't had it in a long time Oh my god, but she was like I like I remember McDonald's and like that was really cool and like she was So he said quote so the detectives turned the car around went to the drive through McDonald's picked her up a happy meal and brought her back To headquarters and she was fine after that. I literally right oh my god I like hearing like good things like that like good police work like that. Oh, I get a crop I swear crazy. I think I'm gonna be a dog.

Oh my god And so they said obviously it's gonna be a task now to learn you know What she what she lived through yeah because the conditions were horrid and she was clearly brainwashed into hiding the way She was and you don't get a four to six year old to hide in dead silence without terrifying them into it Yeah, that's the thing it's like I trust me We have told the girls to be quiet many times like for the purpose of like going to sleep at And it's like that or even like silly things like playing hide and seek with them Oh my god, they're like a hide and seek like phase right now where we have to play hide and seek every single evening And it's so fun But like it's hilarious cuz me and John always end up laughing so hard because when they hide they can't help but laugh They go you know when you come near them so it's just you have to pretend to be like I don't see you No one's in here But to get a six or four to six year old to be they said eerie silent Well, even when they were pulling apart you actually like recoil or be like be nervous It makes some kind of noise or cry or anything anything and they said nothing not a word I mean she must have been so sad. I mean, I'm so glad she's back with her legal guardians And I hope that that you know that she can get I mean hopefully she's six. It's been two and a half years I hope that you'll be able to you know work some help to move forward from this They have all been ordered to stay away from her which I was like, um, yeah forever like that's you that should be it Yeah, you've traumatized this child. No, bye.

So they're not even in custody then. Yeah, so they've been ordered to stay away from her What this is that's why the more that comes out about it And I know like um Kimberly Cooper there her you know attorney is like I think everybody needs to be patient and learn the thing I'm like, but what we have learned is that they've shoved her under disgusting staircase for two years. So yeah I think I know that is bad. Yeah, like I think I can go ahead and judge that.

Yeah, that's bad parenting me as well I'm gonna go ahead and say that's but it'll be interesting to learn the rest of it And I'm just glad she was safe and that she was taken out of that environment I know obviously hope you know she can just be happy with her family I know her sister and I feel for her family because they're gonna be worried about this happening again Oh my god. Yeah, and I I mean two years. They must have assumed the worst. You know, of course like so your four-year-old is gone for two It had I'm happy that it had I'm happy that it had an ending where they could be reunited.

Yeah, exactly Speaking of that there's another crazy true crime update back in episode 82 we covered Susan Powell's disappearance You want to see most heart rate? As you wind down this evening that number seven prime forever serum be your secret to aging at the speed of a glacier Helping to pause the visible signs of skin aging Number seven prime forever serum works to dramatically reduce skin aging activity while you sleep Find the number seven prime forever range at selected food stores and food star Subject to availability can see retesting dramatically reduces skin aging activity from antioxidant protection against surface oxidative stress Ching up the so I have ever listened to tragic like absolutely tragic She disappeared back in 2009 and there was recently a search for her because they've never found her body and her husband Josh There has like obviously everybody pretty much knows that he did it But it was a body we can't we don't know what exactly what happened Yeah But so there was a search for her the other day in the West Desert out in Utah and the reason that they wanted to check this Specific mind was because they've had like some tips about it and the specific area that it's in relating back to her disappearance and like the days leading up to it I guess and The guy who led the team was called Dave Sparks and he believes based on information that him and his team got that Susan's husband threw Her remains in the mine and then set it on fire Jesus and he hired a team to look around this area way back when Susan first went missing and his team investigated this specific mind an area That they're searching now and back then when they were searching it had a wooden structure on top of it But then they went back a few months later and the structure was no longer there But they looked down in the mine and it had crumbled into the mind But it didn't seem like natural. It was very strange. Okay, so I think that's kind of the reason why there's been so much going back to the specifics Yeah, it's just been strange.

Yeah now during their most recent search the team actually found bones and a pair of pants and Susan's best friend so ominous crazy Susan's best friend said that they looked like dress pants So and you know maybe she was getting ready for work Maybe she had come home from work and when she was a very like she was a very like put together Yes woman like she seemed like she was always like dressed well and she always put together every picture I see of her like she was so pretty So the yeah, they found bones they found pants and then they found scraps of other clothing as well. Oh, so that's one of these three more clothes down there Now the bones were first taken to do to two different experts by Susan's father Chuck Cox I don't know if they were brought in person or not based on the article that I read it one of the Experts thought that they were animal bones, but it said based off of information So I don't know if they saw them in person. Okay, and then the second expert disagreed They didn't think it was animal bones. They thought they were human bones.

Oh, so now everything the bones and the clothing are going to be sent to a forensic lab for testing Yes, so hopefully I don't really know how long that takes I have no idea. It really depends. I think I'm hoping at least in like the next couple of weeks Well, I'm kind of update. I imagine this would be a big priority.

It's a big case Yeah, I would think so and I know like obviously forensic testing has come so far though for sure I don't know how long this specific kind of thing takes. Yeah, the caseload and such But Susan's dad like went right out there immediately and he said I'm feeling pretty confident that it's going to be found that this is Susan It makes much more sense than some of the other leads by location and the items that were found I just think they found at least a portion of her remains. Oh my goodness my oh, so it's like you hope that they did so that this family can have closure But then it's like is that like I know that some form of closure But I would imagine too that like reopens because that's a thing like they know at this point I imagine there's certain cases where you're like I bet you know I the family should have like hope here that she's alive somewhere But this wasn't one of those cases that I felt they were probably holding on to the hope that she was alive somewhere because she Never would have just abandoned her children It just wouldn't have happened no and then the way that he acted afterwards and they knew that he his exit from this world come on his children I mean he killed his children. He's a disgusting piece of shit.

No matter No matter if he was guilty of Susan Powell's disappearance or not He's a disgusting fucking piece of shit He killed his two little babies brutally and if you just look into that case if you go If you haven't listened to that episode go back and look to it pretty clear what happened very sure and I think everybody feels the same I don't know anybody who's like no no even in every article I was reading it's widely reported It's widely speculated that and so this was one of those things where unfortunately I think her loved ones believed that she was no longer with us But it was more of a case of just weary of me her right? Let me have her like that's the thing that kills me. It's like you fucking piece of shit Just tell them where she is like that's all they want then they have a spot to go visit her You know and like because right now it's like and you just as like a loved one of someone or like a parent thinking of your child Whether they're dead or alive just out there somewhere well, I'm like everybody is so focused on the different deserts around that area So just like what desert is my childhood? And the loneliness I think would be the thing that would I do like they're there alone and I can't and I don't know where they are I can't go see them Yeah, so celebrate their life This would be horrific and it's gonna open up a new grieving process I think for them But I think it's gonna be a grieving process where they are now able to hopefully if this is her I hope it's her just for that I do too because I really don't want them to have to keep going through life not having any idea what happened to her where she is Their family just seems like a really great thing It really does like her dad said, you know if it's not her Hopefully that it's somebody else and it brings that family Oh, I was like just to put yourself in that yeah to be able to be like, you know what?

I hope it's not her I hope it's my child that they found burned at the bottom of a well of mine But like it's not I know that somebody else can get closure like to be a big of a person Yeah, I hope for them that they are able to get some kind of some kind of something out of this Yeah, whatever it is that they are gonna get out of it I hope it's something that can end positively exactly because you do you need somewhere that you can go and see them Talk to them leaf flowers, you know, just like you know everybody deserves that It's just like such a basic thing that everybody deserves, you know And when it's like I've never had somebody die that I couldn't go see them right I couldn't you know like so I can't imagine what that feels like and I think a lot of us don't imagine what that feels like sometimes With these cases it's just like well, you know like a little but it's like no That is such a different kind of grief like not even having a place to go to see them But I can't fathom and then just like we were just saying it but just have your mind wander about everywhere They could be no I really can't know what to imagine so we'll definitely be updating on that I hope for sure there's something you know some kind of answer soon, but we will see definitely but Yeah, those are the two things we just really wanted to touch upon I'm sure there's like more happening But those are the ones that just stuck out to us There's so much happening We're only gonna hit a couple in the beginning because we got a case to get to all right What do we do when today crazy, so today we're going to the 1940s It's pretty bad, so this doesn't feel very glamorous This is not a national No, definitely not a national 40s case. This is like a dirty like my 40s Dertia, later 30 John but dirty Elena so this took place January 2nd 1946 This is like you know when when my dad was coming into the world a few months later Yeah, so two people were driving up the Waterman Canyon in San Bernardino, California in the mountains Their engine was overheating because apparently you know these are like crazy steep hills and stuff So it was the 1940s cars were not like super psyched climb hills so this this car was like I'm done I'm just a car like yeah, I'm so excited to climb this hill. Let's fucking go This one was not this was not a happy one so the engine overheated So these two people had to pull over to you know Just let it have a moment get its life together and of course with nothing else to do because this is the 40s And they couldn't just you know silently look at their phones or send each other in talks from right next to each other They just had to wait and they decided to just look out over the you know the canyon in front of them The valley below it's beautiful Yeah, you know mountain's you know and then they found a dead box just looking at beautiful stuff So they're taking this beautiful valley way to ruin the moment I mean I get a lot and they're breathing in that 40s air just like mmm That was probably a lot better than refact that and then they noticed something and it's not totally in the valley below It is like something that's kind of wedged into a ledge it appeared that it was like on its way down to the valley and got stuck in this little Edge and then like what's that so this quinting and it's going some more what is that what's going on out there? Oh?

It's a woman wrapped in a green and white blanket that was wrapped in rope and only her legs were sticking out the end what? So they're like well, that's odd. I feel like this is not gonna be like this the slunking listener Yeah, no, this is not one of them And they were like you know like I feel like that shouldn't be there No, I haven't looked at a lot of valleys in my life, but I feel like that shouldn't be there No, that's not something that like naturally occurs in valleys So they called the sheriff which I good on them because what else I'm gonna do and he came right out with a handful of other officers Some deputies in the corner because they were like yeah, I'm pretty sure this is a dead body I don't think this is a live person So they had a ton of trouble getting her out of the canyon because it was super far down where she got wedged in And they had to use like ropes and pulleys to get her out. That's awful basically equipment that like rock climbers use Now obviously like I said this woman was dead She didn't move when they tried to bring her up and her legs that were sticking out of the blanket looked bruised and battered from the fall When they untied the blanket it got somehow worse than it even initially seemed okay because right now you're like oh no a dead body Well, they were now looking at her nude body and there were vital pieces of it missing What was missing?

She was missing both of her hands and her head. It was a headless handless nude body of a woman wrapped in that blanket Now upon further inspection It was clear that some kind of saw had been used to crudely saw off her hands and head the skin and flesh were like tattered and ripped At the cuts it was brutal now the corner went to work immediately looking for anything at the scene that could help them understand What the fuck happened here? And he found a bullet hole in the center of her chest and another one under her left arm in her side of her torso Okay later It was determined that these bullets belonged to a 38 caliber revolver She had a noticeable scar on her left leg and they determined that that might help identify her later because it was a pretty like gnarly scar They also noted that she had intense bunions all over her feet Huh like enough of them to be like yeah, you could definitely be identified purely from the intensity of these bunions Oh wow, I wonder if she was like a hiker well They said that she they said she definitely would have had to have medical intervention for those that bad So they were like that will help us because there's got to be a doctor that has done some surgical You know something on there right now later It was determined that she was likely around 35 to 40 years old and when her body was measured the corner was able to estimate That with a head she would be around five seven or five eight Okay, the bullet in her chest had penetrated her heart and was likely to kill shot Now likely also they said she was probably or at least her not her But at least her killer was likely not from that area because they said if they were from this area They would have known that that Valley is like a very heavily trafficked area and they wouldn't Why would they? Very well and they were like yeah There's just and it's crazy because the police officers are like there's so many other places to hide a body around here And if you're from here, you would know of those places because they're everywhere All right now heavy press coverage was on radio and newspapers it went out everywhere immediately people are dying to see this fucking body So they would call the police at the San Bernardino Sheriff's office and ask them if they could make an appointment to view the body No, we're so bold in the 40s like can you imagine ring ring ring hello?

I'd like to make an appointment to see the body that you discovered in the canyon the other night that headless corpse that you guys Brought in can I just like make it a point 330 work for you to look at that horrific? Yeah, they're just making a fucking dentist appointment. Yeah, just want to go see it we get Instagram already in the 40s Come on get something that distracted. No the other police station There was another police station that was like a satellite station or like a substation I think they called it it was the temple city substation and they got an interesting visit only a couple of hours after the news one public So the man that walked into the temple city substation Which was the smallest station and it was under the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department Was a guy named Arthur Eggers now Arthur was there to report his wife Dorothy Eggers missing He stated in the report that he believed she may have run off with some other man because she was having numerous affairs outside of their marriage And he was still reporting her missing because he hadn't seen her heard from her since December 29th So only a few days earlier, okay, it was like three or four days or what a good guy to you know You know what his wife missing even when she's having all these affairs He was like, you know what she probably just ran off of the guy But like I'm gonna do a good thing he's like I think it might have been a truck driver Maybe funny you should say that stop so I really know your moments of the story I was like and another one really shut up shut the fuck up Ash.

So he all talks like place here It is I'm gonna keep going with it. He also listed her height as five foot two wrong now This is only an inch taller than me remember that that's a short beyond now Arthur So like I'm like five foot two. I know her like I know that I seen her now Arthur actually worked at this particular station as a clerk He was also the son of the former sheriff of San Francisco County here We go so the officers knew him and took it very seriously right away because they knew Dorothy is what he was a polite man You know they also knew that Arthur and Dorothy had an interesting and very tumultuous marriage She was outgoing and she was clearly getting bored of him in recent years and he was very shy and quiet All right now these officers had worked with Arthur for almost 15 years So they knew Dorothy very personally when they took a look at the details of the missing persons report He had filed they noticed the height he had listed for Dorothy and all of them were confused They all stated she was definitely around five foot seven They could say this with certainty because some of them were around that height and when they had spent time with her around like events and days at the station She was at least as tall as them. Yeah, also five two and five seven is a tremendous height difference I mean you when you really like I literally said I'm nowhere near as tall as ash and like that's literally I am taking all of your Moments I was that was my next line on here was I am nowhere near as tall as ash You know we are like if you see a picture of us together I think actually the first picture that we ever posted together people were like oh my god Elena is so tiny Yeah, I'm just a fucking troll things.

I don't think that was what it was no No, but our height difference is very very not it's immense. Yeah, so they immediately are like wait Arthur That's wrong like that's not her height. He's pretty incorrect key Arthur and he was just like no no no She's five foot two. I would know I married her and they were like That's weird, but no sir.

They're like I feel like that's not reality But okay, so they asked Arthur flat out they were like do you think Dorothy could be that woman that was found in the valley without a head Her hands. Yeah, I don't want to ask that but like could she be and he was like yeah I thought of that but like no and he stated you know And I actually went to look at her that body the evening before because I was wondering that mm-hmm So I mean an appointment to go see her I told them, you know, my wife is missing and he said And so he was like, okay They were like, oh, where did you go to see it? And he said oh I went to see it in the basement of the sheriff's office where it was because they would put bodies in the Basement of the sheriff's office for like holding purposes sometimes But they were like that body has never been outside of the morgue like it was not held in the sheriff's basement It's also like why would you lie to these people if you hadn't gotten seen her body? Like you just think you're smart enough to know where it is.

Yeah, like what if there's an off chance that it wasn't there sir Which it wasn't I mean like glad that you're that done. Yeah, but So they talked to the corner because they were little these officers were getting weird or like they were like okay something's going on I don't know how tall she is. He also said he saw her body, but it wasn't at the place He saw it so they talked to the corner and they're like, you know He's lying about weird things and he had said it was definitely not Dorothy in there But he'd come off like very cold and casual about it when he was talking about it like he seemed like whatever like but it's like She's still missing your saying so like are you worried? I also would think that like seeing a headless corpse like might change Well, that's the other thing It's like should you just saw that headless corpse like isn't that fucked up right?

But so they said to the corner, you know like did he come and view the body like did you remember that in the corner was like Oh, he came in here to the morgue and they were like, oh, maybe just got the date Maybe he was just so flustered he got it wrong then and the corner was like, oh, no, no. No, he came here He didn't view the body though. What did he do? He literally walked in paced around a bit and then just left and no The corner was like anybody lied to you he did not view that body Can you imagine if somebody just like walked into your like autopsy suite and just like paced a little of an dipped I would immediately call the authorities like like what just happened first of all?

How did you get in here? But this is the 40s so they can just like walk in that's crazy, but okay? I love that nobody called anybody so they're just like, okay, that's weird now in the meantime So they're like, okay, this is getting weird and we're so they're starting to like ask more questions to fuck is up Now Arthur claimed well, she probably ran off with a truck driver Is that that is that the new theme of your keys? I don't know why every case I have right now like what it's just like truck drivers like just stealing your girl always and forever Oh girl like truck drivers I'm so sorry that you guys just get like totally blamed Just tarnishing the name of truck drivers everywhere and he said she loved to hitch rides on trucks and then bragged about how good she was at driving Them he literally said maybe she wrote off with some truck driver.

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I don't know what greater purpose I'm I serve in this fight against like the faming truck drivers, but I'm gonna be here like I said I fight we have a lot of truck driver listeners So here we are here for you. Let's go. I'm gonna keep spreading this will square up for you I'm gonna keep spreading that this lies lies. These are lies.

I'm not gonna let them tarnish you like that I'm gonna let that happen. So never not on our watch so immediately these police officers that have been his co-workers and friends for over a Decade they started an investigation secretly without him knowing because they're like this is weird and this is gonna get weird So we should start doing this behind his back and then bring it to him so that we can keep him chill I love good police work. Yeah, you love it. So they had to pretend like nothing was a miss while they worked with him And they do it all this stuff He probably did So they start speaking to people and they hear more about the marriage and how it was crumbling and basically in a state of ruin when she Went missing they said she was openly having affairs and wouldn't worry about Arthur knowing and Arthur was just trying to Maintain control of her but was failing in his own eyes.

This is so again. He's trying to control her This is giving me such great Gatsby vibes. It really is right. Yeah, it's got it's like a yucky or great Gatsby Yeah, like none of the glitz or glamor.

Not in it. Just the same just like a Just a vibe just a bad name like now friends also stated she was indeed four five foot seven She was not five foot two what is happening sir? And they said she'd also been recently seeing a chiropractor about an issue with her spine and As of the date of December 29th that was the last time that any of them had heard from her as well Okay, he was telling the truth about that date then a family member said something that really struck a nerve They said that Dorothy had recently had a surgery and they said oh where and they said surgery on her feet to help alleviate the insane Bunyan's she had all over them. What are the fucking?

Exactly. So they were like well there that is now after this the surgeon who did this surgery Dr. Clarence Carmichael and the chiropractor that was working on her were called in to view the body But I was found in the valley they both looked and they both confirmed that that is indeed Dorothy Armand Eggers Whoa, and he said that's due to the Bunyan's that have been recently operated on he was like I did that I know yeah, like that's my work And then the chiropractor was like she has the exact same spinal condition that she that I've been treating her for that's so free So both were present so now they have a positive identification and this body belongs to the co-worker the co-worker's wife So now the police are like okay, so we know he's lying But we don't have direct proof that he killed her so we still have to find some of that And then the doctor said when identifying her one of the doctors he said he said his wife was 5-2 didn't he? I know for a fact she was 5-7.

I wonder why he would say that like even the doctor was like what the fuck like I would even lie like we all know her I was like I was like what are you doing because okay, so like you're and well I was like because is he did he like measure her after he cut her head off? I was like your head does not give you five inches. No, that's why I was just counting on my finger And he should know that the coroner and the medical examiners would be able to estimate at least yeah without her head what she would be right I mean he works at a police station Easy to do if you would think also that if you're gonna go to the likes to cut somebody's head and hands off and like if you know Your wife well enough you probably know about her bunions exactly. I would you not then just cut her feet off too.

I mean horrific Yeah, well questions get to it. Okay now not wanting to jump to the conclusion that he killed her because obviously right now We have some weird shit on lying about stuff. We can't technically we don't know that he killed her yet Yeah, so they start there they keep trying to get these pieces of evidence together in January 19th The evidence came gift wrapped to them. Oh now a bit before this day Arthur had sold a younger deputy at the station His car his old car.

It was a 1940 Plymouth sedan and he had said it was his he told the guys at the station this on January 19th And when they looked outside at it they noticed this car and informed him that's not Arthur's car That's Dorothy's car. Why would you do that dude? Yeah, they're like that's definitely Dorothy's car like that is not Arthur's Do you have a leechester is this a housewife's moment? So this is when the deputy told them he was like oh that's weird because when they signed the title when he signed the title over to me There was a woman sitting in the car and he was like and I said like who's that and Arthur said oh, that's my wife What Dorothy was dead at the time and they knew that now and it turned out that that was his 17 year old niece Marie Now he and Dorothy had adopted their nieces 17 year old Marie and 11 year old Lorraine when they were younger Okay, so they thought of Dorothy as their mother.

Yeah, we do where they his biological nieces are hurt I actually don't know which biological nieces they were but they were from a very young age to the point where they called them mom and Deb oh Yeah, so off the car went to the crime lab now because they're like hey young deputy like rookie deputy like so cool that you got that new car It's evidence now like very dude. You're such a rookie which thank goodness you bought the car I guess now meet because now it's his at least and it can go right into evidence now immediately upon inspection It was clear to technicians that this car had been recently cleaned and very thoroughly Why would you sell it to a police officer though? Now especially the trunk area it was all the doughy completely But they are trained to find what dumbasses don't and in the crumb at creme crevices and the crevices of the trunk They found blood oh and it was type a Dorothy's blood was also type a no Alina It was type O it was type O no, you know, no, you know Now around this time they also found that Arthur had a 38 caliber revolver registered to him I am leaving right now. Yeah, this was all enough for them to try to search us home now and they did they didn't find that revolver And you were in the house of course not but they found type a blood in the bathroom and in the cracks of the bathtub They also found blood on Arthur shoes and a pair of pants of his that hung in the closet in this search They also discovered that Arthur had donated all of Dorothy's clothing Sir and they also found evidence that on January 4th He had sold her wedding and engagement rings for ten bucks at a pawn shop Well, why didn't you even just like throw them out at that point?

Well, it's for these dollars this morning He later said he did this because he figured if the cops suspected him then him having her ring would make him more suspicious No, selling the ring is always more suspicious my guy and it's like, okay, so much done pack there So if she wasn't wearing her rings at the time of her death and missing Why would it be weird that you would have them you live with her? Yeah, she left them at home. They would be at home, right? But if you are saying you would seem suspicious that means that you are automatically being like well They would know I took them off her body and you're automatically being like I didn't want to look suspicious Why not if you don't have anything to do with it then you wouldn't exactly now January 22nd because of all of this He was arrested for the murder of Dorothy Eggers You don't say now during his days of long interrogations He had a few days of them he said he only sold and donated all of her ship because he was just sure she was gone for good And she left him for another man and he was like I want all her shit out of my house Okay, so they had him view the body at the morgue because they're okay Well, you didn't see it the first time so let's see he was cold as ice about it He looked at it and there's a photo of this like him looking at this body and according to newspaper reports from the time They pulled the sheep back kind of dramatically to see if they get a reaction from him and he didn't even flinch What and you're looking at your wife and he said quote well that certainly looks like Dorothy How she is headless sir?

Yeah, exactly and handless. She is headless. How do you sit there and be like? Yep, that's my door thing that's her and you're saying and you're saying whatever Well, and you had already said I saw her and it wasn't her like I know it wasn't her And then he said that looks pretty good it resembles her quite a bit that looks pretty good And then he just sat there and stared at it coldly again and he said I'd say that was her I'll claim the body oh Like did you do it though?

Sure sure why not that's her He then admitted to them that he had lied before about viewing her body And he said he did it because he figured no one would really check up on it And it would get questions about whether this was her off of him for a while because he said I knew people were immediately gonna Think that this was her anyone people asking me about it And he was so I said I figured if I told everybody I'd already viewed her and that it wasn't her that everybody would stop bringing it up And I wouldn't have to deal it okay He worked at a police station for over a decade and thought no one would notice this shit Well, that's the thing I'm like you literally worked with the police But he also said he didn't view her or claim her body at the time he that he had said he viewed it because he didn't want to upset her mother And her mother was elderly he didn't want to upset her so that was her My dad said her mother and it's like why would you viewing the body upset her mother upset her? It doesn't make sense He then told the police that yes, this was here at her and yes He had lied to save his mother-in-law's delicate sensibilities, but he did not kill his wife He said he thought one of them and one of the men she was having an affair with probably did it Okay, and he didn't have a name, but he said he was sure it was one of them All right, and he said quote I wouldn't hurt a hair on her head. I wouldn't kill her. I wanted her to raise the children Nice, that's the only reason I wouldn't kill her.

I love that he's like I wouldn't kill her She's gonna stay home and raise those kids how 40s though. No, I loved her I wouldn't do that I she's the love of my life and my best friend It's like no she needs to be fucking around to cook dinner. It was literally what I was literally gonna say what am I gonna do my My own dinner like you guys are crazy. I keep her in the kitchen.

Why are you in my wife? So she's got somebody bunions. I got a clean now. Are you why would I do that?

I can't and honestly at that point I'm please. Oh, I was like, yeah, you know what? That's a good one. That's right.

That's why I don't kill mine Why would you kill someone who's cooking you dinner and cleaning your house? So he was put in jail awaiting the next steps and they were only able to hold him there under the charges of grand theft Because he forged a Dorothy signature on that car title and he fraudulently sold it to a fucking sheriff step So they really couldn't hold him on murder yet because they didn't have that smoking gun sure now in the next day or so his niece Marie Actually came to visit him. She spoke to the police and she came to visit him in jail She was doing this basically to try to get him to admit what he had done She was accompanied by a police officer in the jail and he witnessed her say to Arthur Eggers that she said I know that body that I'm that blanket. She was like that blanket was from our house Dude come on and he said he was like what are you talking about?

She was like that blanket was on my bed. Oh, oh God And he was and I guess he just stared at her and then said the girl is lying and then sat back down That was literally a quilt on my bed and she's like why would I lie about that exactly now January 27th? He took a polygraph, but he was such a fucking mess that it was only producing inconclusive results They couldn't even say he was lying. It was just like they were like is your name Arthur?

He was like no is your name Arthur and he was like I am having a stroke Okay, like we can't even get you to we can't even get a baseline here So they stopped it with literally no answers at all Wow So this is when they pulled out the big guns that big gun was a man named Robert Jones So Robert Jones was a retired sheriff's deputy and he had worked with Arthur and also Arthur's father when he was the sheriff They knew that this would be a tough guy for Arthur to bullshit and they were right because he was just a good interrogator First of all into Arthur respected him and he worked with his father And they knew this would be like some kind of emotional thing that would maybe tip him into being like I have to talk and like a power struggle Yeah, it's like him lying to Robert Jones would be a big deal right for him now So he went in there to interrogate him and he said art I believe you're guilty I believe you will have a better chance if you confess get it off your chest and lay it on the line That's all it took you're kidding. Arthur broke down and said he did it He had killed his wife and threw her mutilated body into that canyon. So what happened? Why?

So he said December 30th He came home from work and he saw a man hurry out the door and run away So he went inside and he said he found Dorothy in their bedroom naked He obviously deduced that she'd slept with this runaway man And according to Arthur he said that she was she said I'm leaving you for Bob apparently Bob was that man who had just left And he claimed that she had mentioned Bob before and you tried to ignore it and live with it But then during this argument she called him a cheapskate and said what are you going to do about it? You little insect oh now the first confession is the most damning But he told several detail different tales of this whole thing and it all started with that first half and that always sticks around That's the whole thing that starts okay that he came home from work man runs out comes in she's naked in the bedroom She calls him a cheapskate and it comes a little insect That's how they all begin, but I never heard anybody call somebody an insect little insect and doesn't it feel so like I thought you were gonna say Incel like that insect actually I think Ma has said that before like don't like that's like an insect That's an it's a little insect. Yeah, it just sounds like that's a tough one cuz insects are kind of yucky now Sometimes he would remove himself from first degree murder and other times he would put himself right into first degree murder With the next half of the various things he told about this So this one ended with the one she asked him what he was gonna do about it He said quote we started to fight and we fought all the way down the hall into the bathroom I hit her in the face which I'm like oh, okay, and she fell into the bathtub stunned I ran to my bedroom got my gun returned and shot her twice I then loaded her into the back of my car and cut her up. No, I didn't cut her up to avoid identification I cut her up because I was so fucking mad.

I wanted to cut all her all to pieces, but I didn't have time oh He's so interesting because as soon as you said he removed her head and her hands on I don't like the patient. Yeah, he literally says like I know it makes it seem like I did But I would have cut her into more pieces if I could like that was just cuz he was angry So he did live there and I imagine that he he lived where cuz you in the beginning They thought maybe the person who did this didn't live around the end and he kind of says I think of this was what We find out later was he meant for her to go all the way into the canyon, but she got caught Oh, okay, she had gone all the way in she might not have been bound for a long time gotcha Now that what's interesting me too is he said he was so fucking mad and that's why he cut off her head in her hands Those are the two things that a lot of people point to as being the most like Person things about a person. Yeah, your hands like people, you know, like your hands are her hands made him dinner Yeah, and it's like and then you're obviously your head is what makes you like a person So I think that was I think he's right. I think you did it to be a big He was like I'm gonna take away the things that make you a person.

Oh, God. Yes to think and not like to prove to Yeah, so he then said he drove a considerable distance after dumping the body and he kept calling her the body to wow Where he and after this considerable distance that he drove he threw out her head and hands out of the car Okay, he then said he got back home quote picked up the cartridge jackets of my automatic one in the bathroom and one in the hall And went to sleep when I woke I cleaned everything up and went back to work I guess I didn't do a very good job cleaning How cold he then further cemented this fucked up confession by saying he was actually trying to can see he said if I was trying to Conceal her identity like most people are thinking right now He was like I would have cut off her fucking feet because those bunions he said quote anybody would have recognized those feet I would like to have burned her you can't bury a body without a head can you oh? Yeah, that was the same like he was literally like you fucking idiots of course I would have cut her feet off like anyone would recognize those of course I wasn't trying to conceal her identity Jesus Christ. It's like what and then he said quote huh?

I'm glad I got out that off my chest. I feel better. I I can't you feel better you murdered your wife you cut off her head you caught off her hands and then tossed her into a canyon Like trash that's so horrible and then he initially said he didn't want to try to get out of a murder charge She was like I'm just gonna cooperate and plead guilty and serve my time I won't try to fight this you can just bring me to trial So that was the first thing but then his confession changed so another version started the exact same way But now this time he's taking himself out of any kind of premeditation and now he's moving into oops It was an accident territory. Uh-huh after the insect comment He said he grabbed his 30 caliber revolver and went to go after Bob to shoot him And he said but according to him she tried to stop him they began to wrestle essentially He said they both fell onto the bathroom floor and oops the gun happened to go off twice hitting her directly in the chest Come please come on dude.

Yeah, he was quoted as saying quote I was trying to shove her away and she was trying to pull me and then we both fell in the bathroom and the gun just went off Yeah, they usually do twice so he did what any logical husband would do at that point He said I didn't know what else to do so I put her naked body in the bathtub got a rip saw and sawed off her hands and head because he Didn't want her to be identified you literally said yeah that you would have cut her feet and they were like to bunions though And he was like oops The first story more on yeah, he then wrapped her in a blanket from his nieces bed so fucked or his adoptive daughter's bed Yeah, and threw her in the trunk He drove her to the waterman canyon and off she went into it he then cleaned up the mess and reported her missing So again, this one is definitely made to take the blame off of him Yeah, and it's definitely taking that first degree murder charge out It's also um, which is crazy to me that he's assuming the police are gonna buy the fact that Dorothy's like sexual As you wind down this evening that number seven prime forever serum be your secret to aiding at the speed of a glacier Helping to pause the visible signs of skin aging number seven prime forever serum works to dramatically reduce skin aging activity while you sleep Find the number seven prime forever range at selected food stores and food starry Subject to availability consumer testing dramatically reduces skin aging activity from antioxidant protection against surface oxidative stress Bless escapades first of all then verbal then physical fight culminating with two gunshots and a dismemberment in the tub with a ripsaw All happened in a small home where the couples two young nieces were sleeping because he was claiming they were all home Well, cuz that's I was gonna ask like where were his nieces when this he claimed they were just sleeping they slept a Goal thing no and then there was also a man who had been renting a room in their house forever And he was sleeping through the whole thing too sure makes sense definitely all of them were like no We're not home that nice for you. No guy Yeah, so he was taken to the spot where he dumped his wife's body and he showed them exactly how he had done everything But before he left on this idea outing he was said that he was like, you know what? I'm really hungry can I have some food now after confessing to the gruesome murder and dismemberment of his wife and right before leading investigators to the other parts of her mutilated body and the ripsaw and gun He had used to create this whole thing. He had a shit ton of pot roast potatoes gravy pudding coffee literally stuffed his fucking face What the actual fuck and then he was like cool.

Let's go Why you deserve pot roast or whatever you know murder deserves pot roast. I know murder deserves pot roast No way certainly not a good pot roast not even a bad pot roast. I mean I don't even know if there is a bad pot roast I feel like I've had a bad pot roast, but yeah, you're right. They don't even deserve a bad pot roast Yeah, so yeah, so he stepped his face So then they went and aside from showing the police where he had thrown her body over the canyon He also led police to where he had dumped the 38 caliber gun and also that gun had AE engraved on it So it was like it was actually smoking at times.

It was literally smoking when they picked it up They also found the ripsaw now the ripsaw was apparently covered completely in blood bone and flesh While he was doing this leading them to the spots of these horrific events He was posing for photos at different places and because there were times when they would ask him to stand next to something So they could get like him in the shot, but at one point he goes here sheriff get in this one with me This is not a fun time. Yeah, you sound a great time Like we're not doing a photo shoot at this moment. He had dinner made for him again So he's feeling great unreal now He also apparently turned around and looked in the valley and he said what a heck of a place to dump a body They're a lot better spots Yes, correct So obviously that story he told seemed like it was not completely true, but true enough Yeah, the bones of it to probably be a little bit of what happened But now he just started just lying so after he confessed showed them where and how he disposed of the body Showed them where he saw and murder weapon were buried. He was just gonna pull it back and be like How what no I didn't do that who did it like bro?

You literally just showed them where everything was you just brought us to the place where you threw out the gun with your fucking initials Carved into it. No, he was like no intimidation you intimidated me into confessing that and they were like But then how did you know where all the stuff was and you're like? I don't know why did you sell your white eggs for ten dollars? He was like suspicious why don't you buy stuff blood in your car that you then sold to a literal police officer We're not on top of this.

He wouldn't tell them where he hid her head or hands That's fuck he sent them to various locations and basically had fun watching them try to find them and running around to wrong locations Like he would send them somewhere and then be like, oh just kidding. No, oh dick move They also had volunteers in the community helping the police search and also massive troops of Boy Scouts tried to help because that's what 40s Boy Scouts did they were out looking for sawed-off heads and hands of women killed by a creepy little husband That's just like what they were like thought hey troop 42 today. We're gonna learn a real fucking lesson Listen put the ropes down guys. We're heading out into the wilderness.

You know what that birdhouse you made looks great But you're gonna get a lesson in life right now. Wow. What if they had found the head of hands? What was paying for therapy?

Is that part of the Boy Scouts? I would not know like do you become a cadaver dog? It's part of your boy scout training. That's wild.

All I know about scouts is cookies There you go now. He sent them everywhere and nothing then after a few of these wild goose chases He was like actually stop. I brought the head and hands home and I buried and I burned them there Okay, I just didn't want it and this is the funny part He's like the way the way he said it was like, you know, it's just it's almost too awful to say and I'm embarrassed But I brought them home and I burned them like honey killed your wife and sawed her that shit off already has sailed off the side of the earth Like you're not going actually we lost it's another space time continuum Yeah, gone like you that's this is the least embarrassing part of you. What did so no I don't know.

I don't know. They went to his home and they sifted through the fireplace all the ashes They didn't find even a single trace of bone or teeth or anything and he was like well. Yeah dummies She had plastic dentures. They melted and they were like, yeah, okay fucker.

She didn't have plastic bones They would be there right he was like I don't know your life like I don't know like they were like what do you say about no bones? And he's like I'm not a fucking fire expert. I figured it out. I gotta go.

I got it Go like we did though like we figured it out. They're not there You're gonna wear ishi and he was like, I don't know like plastic dentures I'm just gonna hang on to that Stentures and then he told the reporter later in the week after this whole debacle. He said no one in this world will ever find My wife's hands are head. Wow, which I'm like wow.

Okay. What the fuck did you do to them? What do you think he did to them? Do you ever find out?

No, no, they then send he then sent them somewhere else where he said he put Them but then said oh wait, no, I didn't bury them. I either burned them or I threw them somewhere two very different actions Exactly and I was like what and then from his jail cell they interrogated him again about it because all they wanted to do was find her fucking head And he said no not telling you and anybody say you know the fact that we can't find her head or hands might upset her elderly mother Yeah, and she was like I literally don't know what her fuck it and then he said quote I swear by these operates hands that no one will ever know what I did with them. Oh That's the actress really fucked up. It was his way of getting back that little bit of control Yeah, he was able to hang on to and I don't even think he cared about like the investigators finding them I think it was a two-hit to her yeah one last way to just fuck her over like I get to know forever where your head and hands are no Else will like your your mind.

That's basically what it was mine. She was right about this guy She was insect. He is an insect now at one point. He even said to a police officer while talking about Dorothy's body quote I'm surprised there weren't any powder burns the gun was very close Like that's how casually he was just like and then like in the same breath.

He'd be like I didn't kill her Like fucker you can't you just said now while awaiting trial his sister grace died of a heart attack in five minutes after that her Her husband George dropped dead whoa, it's like not very relevant to this case But I read it in one of the old-timey newspapers that were like that's weird. Yeah, like whoa She died of a heart attack and five minutes later her husband died just dropped dead in like natural causes Like I just thought it was weird and it was a waiting trial now then the next day. He said actually no I didn't do any of that. I didn't actually even kill her even not even accidentally with the gun She actually accidentally shot herself and that's how it happened her head off on her hands Yeah, he was like, you know what it was this is he's like yeah I figured it out now He's like we had that whole big fight now I remember the gun went off cuz she took it out of my hand and like oops She shot herself in the chest twice and in the side under her armpit correct seems legit happens all the time Yeah, it totally makes sense and again.

This isn't how it happened It did not happen because if he's still claiming others are in the home sleeping if two gunshots go off They're gonna wake up in your house. It's gonna happen now in court He pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity which like might get granted But I think he's bullshitting so his defense was led by an attorney named James Star it And he just tried to attack the investigation as a whole as well as use the fact that Dorothy's body was headless and handless against them Mm-hmm because he said there's no real proof it was Dorothy And he said quote that body may be the headless source men of sleepy hollow for all the transcript shows I never heard that he had bunions exactly none of this worked No, he tried but none of it worked because they had actual forensic evidence tying him to this crime And he had freely admitted that body was Dorothy many times before so many times had the two the two doctors that came and said yes That is her right we have the surgery We have everything in the 45 different like changing stories is not helpful exactly and that he lied about the height and everything right He's a bullshitter. It just doesn't make any sense now when in front of a grand jury He now said he never killed her and that the body in the canyon wasn't even Dorothy's body. He's like back to that He's like that's not even her that's bullshit.

Okay. He said she's still obviously missing and then he said you know what the cops He said the cops made the whole thing up now. He was claiming that he was framed and this was all a plan We've done by Dorothy the men she was having affairs with and the deputies He worked he said they all are working together to frame me for her murder. This is a whole plan It's a whole cover by all of them what he then said he would refuse to pay for her funeral expenses because that body isn't related to me It's not mine.

I'm not paying for it. Are you kidding me? He was like, I don't even know that dead person So I'm not paying for it. Oh, that's horrible.

Yeah by May 6 1947 when the trial began he was booked So throughout the trials he basically looked nervous as fuck and it was like shaking sweating I saw some pictures. He seemed to be wild and out He was wilding and he would close his eyes and look like he was sleeping through it at times And then I said they went over the events He said happened the evening of December 29th when they believed Dorothy was killed and when he admitted to killing her And he said all that chaos happened while the kids and the room renter were home and sleeping It didn't though Well, the police took a look at the nieces night as well and discovered they had gone to a movie that night together And it is likely when Dorothy was shot that they read this course They then said he put Dorothy's body in bed for a while after killing her to make it look like she was sleeping So when the daughters came home and saw her because they said they looked in and saw her sleeping in bed Oh my god, they said she was not sleeping. She was dead by that point. That is so sad And he put them in there for that reason.

That's heinous Now unfortunately for him even taking away his confession because you know his attorneys saying that it was coerced and it's gone back and forth so much that they can't really take it and do Like that. Well, which one was coerced. That's the thing which of the seven were forced because the first half of it always stays the same Right, right They also had the surgeon and chiropractor identifying her on very specific markers the blood in the trunk matching her blood type He had led them to the murder weapon and the ripsaw he used to dismember her There was physical evidence on the ripsaw tying him to the crime and tying the ripsaw to Dorothy The gun was tested and matched the bullets in her body It had his initials on it the blanket was from his home There was blood in the bathroom that matched Dorothy's as well He had tried to stay on the stand that the blood that they found no stop right there was food coloring And it was in the bathroom because during a fight once Dorothy had got red food coloring and just started squirting at him No That motherfucker tried that on the stand he said literally said you dumbasses that is food coloring and they were like type a food coloring What do I usually get oh negative food coloring when I get it? That's the best why it also I just pictured like getting into a fight with Drew and just being like, you know what hold stay right there motherfucker And just going to my baking cabinet sifting through all my food coloring speaking out a red one and just being like Why for why though?

I just I'm dying to know if anyone in that court was like Please explain play by play how that happened like stop. I would elaborate all listen literally because if I was in that court I'd be like time the fuck out judge Please allow me this and I would be like you explain to me right now arthur angers coloring What happened did she call it? Did you what happened? Did she have the food coloring in her hand was she making cookies?

Was she making red velvet what was going on and did she just go squirt spurt or did she like crazy? What she's not even that much in there and she wasn't making red velvet because she would need all of that she wouldn't be wasting a drash Yeah, he tried that though. I'm really there so many times throughout this story that I've just left I feel like on the stand when he said that it must have gone silent in that courtroom And you know everyone in there just went what okay moving on like you know that was literally just like oh And you know his attorney was like fuck like do you really say that during a fight? I'm never gonna be over this as long as I lived never honest and also his nieces slash adopted daughters gave him up as well Good so he said on the stand that arthur her uncle had forced her to practice signing dorothee's name for him Girl you're just telling us this now and she said when he sold that card of the deputy He had forced her to go with him and sign dorothee's name But she wasn't doing it well enough because she was nervous and she was like I don't know what she's why this is why are you making me do that?

What is going on and he was like fuck it I'll do it myself and just did it himself But like she was in the car and that's why the deputy saw her in the car that day perfect And she also said again that blanket that she was wrapped in is from my own fucking bed That's just so sad to me that he took a blanket out of one of his nieces and like again adopted daughters or i'm dad Like like like come on how dare you now It was only a day or so before this that she had found out for the first time Marie that she was adopted Oh my god, so she had no idea and now she found that out that she was adopted Adopted by the man who is now on trial for killing her adoptive mother. Oh, that is just way too much Why did she find her like they just like told her I think because of the press coverage their relationship was that's what kind of dissected a little bit And they were like well, you know and some outlets were calling them his adoptive nieces Oh and some of them were calling him as adoptive daughters So it's like I think she probably saw something and was like what does this mean? And they were like we gotta tell you gotta tell you that's so sad to be going through all of that And then you're like your whole life has already just flipped upside down and then somehow it gets worse Exactly. So I thought that was like really harrowing.

Yeah Now a neighbor testified on january 3rd she saw arthur outside like voraciously cleaning his wife's car So she was like I watched that should happen. He was like very much focusing on the trunk Oh man Now arthur's attorneys just blamed dorothy for her own death at this point because they knew their client was such an idiot That's really all they could do at this point. Yeah, so james star at set in his opening statement Quote our evidence will prove mrs. Eggers was a domineering forceful woman who was not averse to attending dances alone and picking up streams For a long time Eggers heard rumors of his wife's unfaithfulness when he saw with his own eyes the truth of these rumors There was a blinding flash in his mind and he grabbed a gun to defend to the sanctity of his home in the struggle Mrs.

Eggers who was strong physically was accidentally shot Yeah, I like that it was like mrs. Eggers who was fucking strong just so you know mrs. Eggers like who's the strong one who's not nervous For real. I know now they also brought arthur onto the stand which I was like that shouldn't have done that That's a bold move.

Let's see how it shakes out for you Yeah, like he literally said his wife's word at him with food coloring in a fight So like truly one of those things where you're like a bold move. Oh, all right. Let's see He said he had a happy marriage until a couple of years ago when she started going through what he called quote the change of life Which i'm assuming he meant menopause and he said she was a big pain in the ass after that which i'm like, oh, sorry Guess the fuck was so sad for you. Do you even know that her fucking miserable like menopause sounds like it sucks Everybody going through menopause right now like i'm sorry because hearing about it freaks me out It's gotta be tough.

So like i'm so sorry that she was going through that and it disrupted your fucking flow What a dick. No, that's when he said she started stepping out on their marriage and was going to fucking dances with other men or alone Maybe she just liked to dance. She's like a dance man He said of the day she went missing quote. I went into the house and found my wife in the bedroom She was nude.

I told her i was going to stop such goings on and got my dress from the dress my gun from the dresser drawer Dorothy grabbed me and we struggled in the bedroom She pushed me into the bathroom and we both fell down the gun went off next thing I knew I was crying and then I heard these voices So now he's really leaning into like the insanity defense. He never heard voices before this He said it quote. I was sitting on the toilet seat crying and scared And then I know I got in the car and somebody else was in that car and kept saying she's in the back She's in the back. I found myself driving along the waterfront, but I kept hearing these voices She's in the back.

She's in the back. I stopped the car and looked in the troncents But it was empty. I thought it was all a bad dream, but when I went back to the house, Dorothy wasn't there So where'd she go now? He's saying oops.

I shot her accidentally I think I don't remember it just happened and then I cried on the toilet for a little while then I put her in the car I got in the car someone else was in there with me saying she's in the back. She's in the back. She's in the back He stopped he looked in the trunk. She was gone, right and then he was like, I guess I should go home.

Anyone home and she was just gone So he's like, it's weird. She's just gone. I think his like really shitty lawyer put that together His shitty lawyer was like, you need to talk about voices Yeah, and you need to remove yourself from any of the actual events and he was like got it chief and like just throw in a little bit of magic She was like a little bit of whimsy on there. It's just a sprinkle.

She's gone. She's gone. I have no idea where she goes She's just I open the trunk. She's gone must have been magic and just like that every little thing she does is magic She's just gone.

I feel like he would have said that probably would have now again He said he didn't remember more than one shot and he didn't know who the other person in the car was who was saying she's in the back Okay, then he said quote sometimes I think she is dead Sometimes honey. She's dead like that's yeah. He said sometimes I think she's alive and laughing at my predicament Which I'm like, I wish she was to be honest. She's laughing at your predicament somewhere So he said quote, but that body I saw in San Bernardino was not my Dorothy.

That's what he said on this. Oh now. She's yours Now after this James started had a surprise He was like I got it like he thought this was it he was so he did the whole like surprise witness stop He was calling this witness and this witness gone on the stand and said that night Dorothy's body was found He had actually come across a man with bloody hands in that area. Okay didn't call it what about it though That man was changing a tire like wow, so we have another potential suspect because I was a big like oh somebody else was in the area and they had bloody hands That's pretty big that's huge.

What's going on? It's true the court went nuts and started was like so smug about it He was like, okay. I've been waiting to drop this one Then deputy district attorney Barnes called a witness right after this one This witness was ex-marine and an ex-marine named Fred Matusky and Fred said hello As he wind down this evening that number seven prime forever serum be your secret to aiding at the speed of a glacier Helping to pause the visible signs of skin aging Number seven prime forever serum works to dramatically reduce skin aging activity while you sleep Find the number seven prime forever range at selected boots doors and boots dot. I Subject to availability can see we're testing dramatically reduce the skin aging activity from antioxidant protection against surface oxidative stress Oh, I'm the guy that was changing my tire that night with bloody hands And he said I had gotten married four hours before that and I cut my hands on taking the tin cans off of the back of my car Because it was the just very car sucks And he was like I was literally getting married during the time that any of this was going down But you can look at the right lots of witnesses to say that I was there and witnesses to say they saw me cut my hands on those And he was like I had bandages on my hands like the edge.

They weren't just bloody hands Like I wasn't just walking around like with bloody hands. Thank you for making the memory even worse though Cool cool. I got married. It was awesome.

Then I caught my hands not so great I thought that would be the end of it, but here I am but here I have to tell you that hi, I'm an ex-marine and I did not kill this woman that I don't know Thanks. I got her hands on her hands and head off and send us something for our wedding So that whole like surprise witness here it is It was just It was just Which yes, we love it now Arthur Eggers was found guilty of first degree murder after they deliberated for I think a day he was I know it's crazy. The jury asked actually for life without parole That's what they were they said can we get a life without parole sentence instead of a death sentence because at the time it was going to be death Oh, okay The judge said the punishment for first degree murder is death and he was not going to say no to that Do you know why they didn't want to sentence? I think they just like they were concerned that potentially he was insane or they were like I would rather I think they don't maybe this group of people just really didn't want to sentence somebody to death So I get absolutely I must be a very heavy thing to do Yes, and they ended up having to get a new jury because that jury wouldn't recommend that as a punishment Oh, wow So they had to get a whole new jury and they had his like to find out if he was seen Oh, I'm straddled to find out if he was actually seen that was on June 11th And he was declared sane by three different doctors.

Oh, like he is lying and bullshitting. This is fake Yeah, he was found sane by the jury as well and sentenced to die in the gas chamber Oh, man Now he received two stays of execution and a temporary reprieve thanks to his other sister Edda His sister Edda like fought for him Oh and she got him two stays and that reprieve because they tried to argue that he wasn't sane But every single time he was found sane. Okay, just he would get that stay right they would get moved and then it would just get reset They were just trying everything they could exactly so that her brother didn't have to die Now he was offered a last second stay as he was led to his death Wow, they're like literally offered one in Los Angeles County Sheriff Eugene Biscolas told him He could have the stay of execution if he just told them where Dorothy's head and hands were And he didn't they were like we can work to get you life instead of killing you if you just fucking tell us where those are This motherfucker. No, he would rather die being led to the gas chamber.

He said nope Wow, just it's so eerie just to like accept your own death like that and to just be like no I'm gonna continue fucking with you until after my death like you'll never find her I know and in prison he changed the story a million more times he recanted the confession He maintained her in his in a sense till the end of course He died in San Quentin's gas chamber on October 15th 1948 at 10 12 a.m. So by in his last words were shotter I may have but I never cut her up He went out with another story with another bullshit lie dude That's what you wasted your last word. I mean no you did your DNA is all over this and so is her skin And just the way he said it's shotter I may have but I didn't cut her up So did somebody else come in and cut her up like somebody else was like oh cool. You did the work for me I'm I'm dying to cut someone up and I'm so glad I found this like that's what you came up with Who cut her up then dude like you didn't just use someone and somebody just happened to stroll by your bathroom in your own home and be like Oh my god, I've been looking for someone to dismember how coincidental so cool that you've done that's unreal That's unreal.

That is the story of Arthur Eggers and he is a fucked up human who was obviously dead now All right, well, thanks for that. That was something It was a wild one. I was like this is just and the fact that Dorothy's head and hands were never found Bothers me the fact that they just like couldn't ever find them because you're like what did he do in the fact that he was so Confident that they would never find it. He must have burned them somewhere.

I would think where that's the thing I'm like I feel like he'd burn them like in the forest somewhere somewhere Or like somebody like so deep somewhere or like burn them in the through the ashes and like water or something like somewhere where it just isn't gonna be found Yeah, that's man. It's sad. That is really sad and it's so sad for his adopted daughter I know like that's horrible. What a awful way to find that out.

Well guys, thanks for listening Yeah, um, we hope that you continue to listen keep listening. Yes, please do and we hope you keep it But I said that when you come home when you like see your wife and you just decide to kill her and then you come up with like a million Five different stories about why you killed her like you actually didn't kill her and then like I don't know like why did she throw reds red food coloring? She did not don't keep it as weird as we are just actually do keep it so weird that like you throw red food coloring on somebody during a fight As you wind down this evening that number seven prime for every serum be your secret to aiding at the speed of a glacier Helping to pause the visible signs of skin aging number seven prime forever serum works to dramatically reduce skin aging activity while you sleep Find the number seven prime forever range at selected booth stores and food starry subject to availability consumer testing dramatically reduces skin aging activity from antioxidant protection against surface oxidative stress