THE MEATLOAF FILES with Helen Rosner

In two weeks, we've seen: an egg roll, the continued drip drip drip on the shady characters in the Trump-Russia story, a family feud between a white supremacist and a rich son-in-law, the ongoing shredding of rights and infrastructure, Sean Spicer coining the stomach-churning term "Holocaust centers," and the start of two armed conflicts by a man who's finally undone the child lock on the boom-boom room...oh, and a possible nuclear war with North Korea because of Twitter. So let's talk about what Trump eats. What? Yes! It means more than you think. Dan and Maureen are joined by Helen Rosner from Eater. We drill deep into the strange story of food and the role it's played in the election and the aftermath. This is a President who owns restaurants, who makes foreign leaders eat in them. This is a man who remembers his chocolate cake but not what country he just bombed. The clues are everywhere, and we're putting it together. It's a whole new conspiracy wall! And wait until we get to the meatloaf. Grab a fork! It's Says Who time! Show Notes: Helen Rosner is the executive editor of Eater, the national food and restaurant culture publication, and co-host of Eater's weekly interview podcast, the Eater Upsell. In 2014, she launched Eater's features department; its mix of long-form reported pieces, multimedia stories, personal essays, and special packages has brought in a slew of awards, including three James Beard Awards and two National Magazine Awards. Formerly an editor at Saveur and New York Magazine, and a founder of the short-lived but cultishly influential blog Eat Me Daily — and before all that, a book editor — her work has been published in places like Afar, the Awl, Racked, Departures, and Guernica, which published her Beard Award-winning essay "On Chicken Tenders." She tweets (too much, probably) at @hels. Make your own Paul Ryan meatloaf! Watch Donald Trump "make" a meatloaf! It's real weird. Bonus: weird meatloaf sandwich. Palate cleanser: the Eater guide to Surviving Disney World. Your Intrepid Hosts: Maureen Johnson and Dan Sinker Our awesome theme is courtesy of Ted Leo. Organ music this week courtesy of Josh Kantor Says Who's Logo was made by the one and only Darth Says Who is made possible by you, through your support of our Patreon at patreon.com/sayswho