South East Tech Logical University will hold an open day at its campus in Karlo on Saturday, May 9th from 10am to 2pm. Explore our CAO courses, meet expert lecturers, student ambassadors and enjoy campus tours over top class facilities. See where your ambitions can take you. At SCTU's open day, Saturday May 9th.
For all SCTU open days, see SCTU.ie. As you wind down this evening, let number 7 prime for every serum be your secret to aiding at the speed of a glacier, helping to pause the visible signs of skin aging. Number 7 prime for every serum works to dramatically reduce skin aging activity while you sleep. Find the number 7 prime for every range at selected boot stores and food store.ie.
Subject to availability, consumer testing, dramatically reduce skin aging activity from antioxidant protection against surface oxidative stress. Hey weirdos, I'm Ash and I'm Elena and this is more good. I'm standing really close to the mic today so that I blow your eardrums out because I just always feel like I can't hear myself and I'm working on it. She's actually sitting really close to the mic.
She's not standing. She's lying to you right now. Whatever. She just lied to you.
What the fuck ever, Elena? So hi everybody. How is your week been going? We hope you enjoyed your really intense two-party last weekend.
I feel like you guys did. That case was fucking bananas. It really was bananas. And we've been obsessed with the Facebook group coming up with new ways for Jasmine to like have a bad day every day of her life.
I love the Facebook group. When I'm having a bad day, I'm like, I'm going to go into the Facebook group and I'm going to read that shit because it makes me smile. So keep doing that stuff because we read it and we absolutely love it. It makes my day.
You guys are the best. You really are. And you know what? We want to give you something for being the best.
So why don't you go on over to murderapparel.com and fucking buy yourself a shirt and get 20, is it 25%? That sounds good. 25% off if you use our code more bid. M-O-R-B-I-D.
You can get whatever shirt you want for 25% off but we suggest that you get our shirt because it's fucking dope. It's just a suggestion. It's just a throw in a light suggestion out there. Get our shirt or I'll burn you alive.
Get our shirt and get whatever the fucking one. Because they have great shirts like we said before. They have ones to say the husband did it and dead inside. I just got a shirt from them that says basically a detective and it's great.
Oh shit. I need to stop buying things online but I'm addicted to murderapparel. And you should be too. Go on over to their Instagram at m-u-r-d-e-r-a-p-p-a-r-e-l.
The link to the website is in their bio and again use our code more bid. I was talking about fucking roll there. Use our code more bid. M-O-R-B-I-D.
Or 25% off. That was a good segue. I really like that. I'm really good at segues.
I was very impressed by that. It's because I fucking make small talk every day of my life. So there's really we have just one thing we wanted to mention because it's all over the news and it's kind of bonkers. And we're really fucking confused.
Yeah and we feel like you guys are probably going to be equally as confused but also intrigued. So here in Good Old Massachusetts. I'm trying what up. There was this Amesbury girl.
13 years old. Yep. Her name is Chloe Ricard I believe. Yep.
At Monday afternoon at like 4.47 PM she was just dropped off at Lawrence General Hospital and they drove away. But when she was dropped off she was dead. So they dropped a dead girl. They just dropped a dead 13 year old girl off at the emergency room and now they're like what the hell is going on.
And we don't know who they is right? Like we don't know who dropped her off. Nobody knows who they are. Nobody knows and she's at the medical examiner's office right now to do an autopsy but we probably won't find out a lot for a little while.
I think they on the news tonight I think they said they did the autopsy but they didn't release anything yet. Yeah I mean who knows. I want to fucking know. That's like a bonkers thing.
So when we find out any updates we'll let you guys know but I just wanted to share that one because that was a crazy bit of true crime news that's happening in our state. So after we let you guys know that happy news let's go into our case for today shall we? This week we're going to be talking about we are going to be talking about the rape and murder of Angela Angie Samota. Now I know this sounds like it's going to be a super bummer and it is obviously but there's like a little bit of like silver lining at the end.
Yeah. I'll give you a little bit of like a boost because I know Jasmine and Jeremy was real rough. Israel Keys was real rough. It wasn't a lot of levity at the end especially Jasmine's sentence it was like made everybody angry and I mean lost angry.
So we figured we wanted to pick a case that at least had some little like glimmer of hope at the end. Glimmer of hope for humanity. Yeah. So without further ado let's talk about the murder of Angie Samota.
So Angela Angie which is what she liked to be called by her friends. Samota was born in 1964 in Pennsylvania. She was raised by a single mother. She had a pretty typical childhood.
She was she decided she wanted to attend Southern Methodist University after high school. And that is where she met her Ramey Sheila Wysocki. Does that say that? Cool.
So yeah they met during freshman year of college at the Southern Methodist University in Texas. So at first they weren't best friends because the first semester that they were paired as roommates Sheila remembered that they didn't really get along because Angie had a boyfriend that Sheila wasn't really a fan of. But once Angie broke up with the boyfriend her and Sheila became like so much closer. They were like opposites in pretty much every way but they bonded over the fact that they both grew up without the father in their life.
Well their fathers and their lives. The father. The heavenly father. You know Jesus Christ.
That father. I'm just kidding. Sheila struggled with dyslexia and she was like really just open to make it through college where Angie was. I mean I fucking dropped out.
So where Angela was very academically focused and she used to pull like all-nighters studying. Sheila remembers that Angela was the life of the party and people loved her. She was beautiful and bubbly. She was a social chairman of her sorority and a chairman.
She was a chair woman. And actually this is kind of weird because in one source I found that she was a psych major. But then in another source I found out that she was studying computer science and electrical engineering. So Sheila was the psych major.
Oh okay. And did I read it too fast? Angela was getting a degree in computer science and mechanical engineering. Bad bitch alert.
Oh yeah. Because I was not common for women to go into that field back then. So already Angela is a bad bitch. She was a boss bitch.
She had a boyfriend at the time Angela did named Ben McCall. Because that's the one that Sheila didn't like. No this isn't the one that's the one that's the time of her murder unfortunately. Ben McCall was a construction worker.
He was a little older than her. You know so that kind of made Angela want to. She wanted to be a little more independent not live in the dorms anymore because she was dating an older guy and she started to feel like she was moving forward. Right.
So that's when her and Sheila kind of like broke apart as roommates but they remained really close. Okay. And Angela ended up getting an off-campus condo. Wow that's pretty dope.
Which is like good for her. And her boyfriend Ben was actually a construction site manager. So he was actually like super important in his job. I think they make like big.
Who knows. I don't know. The construction workers make pretty good money. Either way.
He was an important dude for realsy. So we're gonna skip right to the night of October 12th in 1984. There was a huge game that day between University of Texas and University of Oklahoma. Big game, big deal.
It was actually called the Red River Showdown. Friday Night Lights. That's exactly it. I'm saying Friday Night Lights.
I miss that shit so hard. You miss that shit. What's it? Friday Night Lights.
Like what does that mean? Go to the football games on Friday nights. Yeah. Me too.
Okay. So much. You're dick. Who's such a that?
We had very different high school experiences. We say this. I went to football games. It was fun.
I did not. I didn't know what the fuck was happening. The one year that I was a cheerleader. I fucking would be like what are we on defense.
Did you guys hear that? I should have a football cheerleader in high school. So either way big huge game. You know they're in the south.
These are huge football places. So at the same time now that's a big enough deal to begin with. Tons of people come in from that from out of state. All that good stuff.
Huge draw. The same day. The same weekend. There was also the state fair of Texas which is an annual state fair held in Dallas.
And it's one of the most highly attended state fairs in the country. Well, carnivals are never good for murders. Yeah. No, it's no good.
But it can bring something like 2 million people at a time. Yeah. So that was going on and also the football game. So it was just like bonkers.
It's just like Angela was going out that weekend because she wasn't going to miss all this. But Sheila did not. It's us. I was going to say it's kind of us.
But so she was going out with a girlfriend named Anita Kadala. I believe it's pronounced. And then also a guy named Russell Buchanan. Russell Buchanan was a dude that Angela had actually met before at a bar.
And Russell was already graduated with a degree in architecture. He was 23 and he was getting ready to start grad school become like a full fledged architect. Like he was on like a really successful path. I think the two of them had planned to like go out to lunch at one point.
And then I think she was like dating her boyfriend. So she was like, you know, we're not going to do that. But she then she called and was like, do you want to come out with us? Okay.
Her boyfriend, Ben, did not come out with him that night. But knew that was coming was fine. Like it wasn't some like salacious thing or anything. And the only reason he didn't come out was because he's a construction worker and he had to wake up super early.
So he was like, yeah, I'm not going bar hopping. It's not happening. He was like, I'm an adult. But at the same time, he was like, have fun though.
Love that. Support your fucking person. Exactly. Let them do what they want.
I mean, within reason. Yeah. So they the gang went bar hopping for much of the night. According to Russell, they ended up at Lakewood's Boardwalk Beach Club, which is now called Mico Cina.
Yes. That's a fun name. Right. Mico Cina.
He said it was like like a big huge crowd in there. It was a lot of fun. He said, after that, they headed over to Shannon Wins Nostromo restaurant on Travis, which I don't know where this is. I'm like, cool.
I'm familiar with the area. And that's where Angie actually got them into an upstairs club called the Rio Room. Yeah, she did. She got in, I mean, basically Russell said, quote, she was going from table to table talking to people.
She literally knew everyone. Oh, so she was friendly, like life of the party. Yeah. And she was what everyone said she was.
She was just life of the party, bubbly, friendly, everyone likes her. So they had drinks, they danced at the Rio Room all until about 1 a.m. Nothing good happens after midnight. No, but they were all just being good people though.
They were like, it's 1 a.m. All right. We did our thing. Let's go home.
Yeah. So Angela dropped Russell off at his house on Matilda Street, which was about five minutes from her condo on Amesbury Drive. Oh, that's weird. Oh shit.
Ames is very Massachusetts. That's really weird. Yeah, that was a weird connection. The case I mentioned in the beginning happened in Amesbury Massachusetts.
That's just a weird little coincidence. That is weird. So she dropped Russell off at his place. Again, he lived about five minutes away from her condo.
She then dropped Anita off at her place. And then she decided to just stop by her boyfriend Ben's place, which was a full half hour away just to say good night. Oh, and he said, and according to Ben, he said, like we stood in the doorway, we said our good nights. And then she went home like she just wanted to stop and say good night to me.
Oh, that's horrible. So then she went home to go to sleep. Yeah. Now shortly after she left her boyfriend at around 1.45 a.m.
He got a phone call from her phone from her condo. No. And she was basically saying like coded things to him. But he had just been woken up.
So he wasn't standing like he was like, what are you trying to tell me right now? So she finally said, I need you to just talk to me, just talk to me. And he was like, what is going on right now? She said, I need you to talk to me.
I'm freaked out. And she told him a dude knocked on her door and asked if he could come in to use the bathroom in the phone. So she said she was really scared. And she thought if she had hung out on the phone with him, that she would be safe.
And he was like, what is going on? Like, are you kidding me? So he started asking questions like, who the fuck is this guy? How do you know?
Like, what's going on? Are you okay? Right. And she can't answer any of this because out of nowhere the call got disconnected.
Oh my god. No. So he freaks out the poor guy. He calls her back, but gets nothing.
So he's freaking out. He drives to her place like jumps in his car and drives to her place. What a good boyfriend. He uses his car phone, which is crazy for this era, because it's the ladies.
But he was a construction site manager. So he happened to have a truck equipped with like a huge car phone, like Zach Moore. Yeah, I wanted to say Zach. But he uses it the whole way there to call her over and over.
He gets to her place. He knocks, he calls her name, but no one's coming out and no one's answering. Oh my god. This is got run.
So he calls the police from his truck. This was before 911 was like widely used. So he had to call information to call the police. Damn.
Now police show up at the apartment right away. One of the investigators was a 20 year old female rookie cop. He's a senior corporal Janice Crowther, I think her name was. Uh huh.
She said as soon as she came to that condo, she said she just knew something was on the feeling feeling. She said there was dread in the air, contacted the condo manager to unlock the door because they still weren't getting any answer. At 2 17 a.m. They entered the apartment and they found Angela naked on her bed lying next to a giant stuffed bunny.
Oh my god. And with her eyes wide open. Oh she had been brutally raped and stabbed 18 times. Oh my god.
Yes. One of the things that I believe that same rookie detective said was that she had like brilliant blue eyes. Oh and she said I just remember her eyes because they were wide open. That's a like hey bother share my mind.
Now the medical examiner said the fatal wound was to her heart and this wound to her heart was so brutal in fact that the heart was actually stabbed entirely outside of its cavity. So it like like jolted it. Basically it was pulled out of her chest. What?
Detective Crowther said quote, we found Angela lying on her bed with her heart basically cut out. It was lying on top of her chest. Oh my god. Yeah.
So so he like pulled it out with the knife. He must have just brutally. I mean she must have just been demolished and he just yanked it out. Yeah.
This dude is a monster. And this all happened like literally right when she got home. Yeah. I mean this was a very short period of time that this happened.
In fact and I'll go over it in a second. They think that it might have happened while her boyfriend was outside. I know. It's terrible.
It's like really bad. I don't even have words for that. I know. This is definitely brutal.
And if I was him I wouldn't want to fucking know. No I wouldn't want to know that at all. I mean even with it being in the mid-early 80s they were able to get some samples collected of blood and semen and scrapings from under fingernails. They couldn't do a lot with them but they got them.
Yeah. So that it ended up being great later. Exactly. At the time they weren't able to do a pull-down with it but it does end up being a huge help later.
So when they did test the samples that they could test it was discovered that they were working with a non-secreeder. This means that the fluids belong to an individual who does not leave the antigens that distinguish their particular blood type in any of their fluids. Interesting. Yeah.
And so their semen won't give you their blood type because the antigens are not present. So they just have like dickhead semen too. Pretty much. Pretty much.
Pretty much the dickhead too. Exactly. Awesome. Yeah.
So immediately this they immediately had some suspects that they wanted to work right off the bat. What's the boyfriend one of them? The guy she was out with that night. Russell Buchanan became a suspect right away.
Yeah. I mean he was thinking of Tom and Tom. I know right. I could share with like a moustache.
Me too. I could argue with it. Her ex-boyfriend who she hated. Yeah.
He had cut up her clothing in a rage once and threatened her with a knife when they broke up. Wow. So the police were like he looks good probably. Yeah.
They were like that might be right. People are fucked. They also looked at her current boyfriend Ben. Oh.
Meanwhile he was like distraught as all hell. Well luckily Ben and the ex-boyfriend were found to be secretors. Okay. So they were cleared pretty quickly because you don't fluctuate between being a secretor and a non-screeder.
That's a really hard word. You are one of the other. This left Russell Buchanan. He lived five minutes away.
He was out with them that night and he was a non-screeder. Oh no. So mind you about 80% of the world population are secretors. Can we stop?
Can we come up with a different word? I don't think secretor is bad. It is. It is.
It is. It is. It is. It's a greeter.
I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I got a lemon.
I think a band name though. It would. The secretors. No.
Just like non-screeder. It's so. That'd be great. I just I hate it.
I don't know why I don't like it. Well get used to it man because it's part of this. Like I said about 80% of the world population are secretors. So he is part of the approximately 20% of the world that isn't.
Which by that's by comparison. That's a small percentage. When you live five minutes away. With everything else you're like oh Russell.
Like C's. So when they went to interview Russell, Monday night around 6pm was when they did this. And he was still in his suit from working his first job. Which was like an internship with HKS architects.
Okay. In a downtown Dallas I believe. They claimed he was acting kind of strange because he was they were like he was claiming he had no idea that that Angela was dead. And this was after we had already been all over the news.
Right. For like a day or two. So they were like that's weird. Like why are you being like what?
I live like five minutes away from her and your boyfriend. Well he claimed early the morning after they went out. He said he went immediately to his friends wedding the next morning. And then went immediately to his his family in Houston to visit.
Which was already a pre-determined plan to visit. Okay. And he was like I literally didn't stop that I went to Houston to visit my family right after. And then he went straight home Sunday night and he did a ton of work for grad school.
And said he never even peaked at the news. Mind you this is before smartphones. So it was believable. And it's kind of believable to me only because.
And I wrote this down because I was just thinking about it was like sometimes I'll ask Ash for an in on a new story. And she hasn't seen it and this is in the age of smart phone. So I am a busy person. But that's what I'm saying.
So yeah, it's believable. I can't completely be like well that's bullshit. Nobody would know like you know what the whole time I was about to say that but I tend to like circulate things back to myself too much. So I decided not to I just like for doing it for you.
Welcome. Right. He said the apartment was filled with a bunch of knives and old spears because his roommate had just returned from a two week African Safari and he was like considering how Angela was killed this was a really bad look for me. There was all.
The layers around I think this gave him a polygraph. He passed it. Okay. They were still hanging on him being the guy though because they're like it's just too much is pointing to him and so they put him on surveillance.
Now for the next six months, they would bring him in periodically just to question him again, and they would give him more like polygraph tests. They were trying to catch inconsistencies in his stories. Nothing was changing. It was telling the same story.
story over and over again. Right, because it's like what happened? Eventually he was forced to get a lawyer because they were claiming his polygraph was actually inconclusive now and that he didn't pass. Oh, so he could kind of see like where this was going.
They're gonna try to charge me no matter what. Oh, I need help. So he did get a lawyer because it's actually it was his parents who were like get a lawyer too. Right.
And at one point he said they unexpectedly held up graphic crime scene photos of Angela's body and demanded he confess and he was like it was horrific. Oh, I will never get over seeing those. Yeah, that's so sad. Because again, remember she was stabbed 18 times she was lying naked on a bed next to a stuffed bunny with her heart outside of her chest.
That's what they showed him. Thank you. You're welcome. So now Russell has a problem because he was accepted to grad school in London but he can't leave any plan to go.
But that's shitty. Well, so the police are now freaking out because they can't stop him from going because they haven't charged him with any bullshit. So he's leaving the country. Like that's bad.
I just I just feel like he didn't do it though. I don't know. Let's see. All right.
So now they're desperate and they interview Angela's friends and family and they're trying to get more information about Russell who he is. Anybody who knows him, they speak to Sheila. Okay. Sheila, why is that?
The BFF from freshman year who was the psych major and didn't drink and didn't party. Elena, me. So Sheila, Sheila was a badass from the jump because they ask her if she feels they basically tell her the whole story about Russell and how they feel. And then they ask her if she feels comfortable going to dinner with Russell wired.
And she's like fuck yeah, I do. And they basically are like we need to try to get him to confess. So now before they did this, like I said, they told her he failed his polygraph and they implied that he had intentionally fled the area after the crime that weekend. Oh, so they convinced her that he did it.
So basically they she said she said I thought I was going to dinner with a murderer. She's with somebody who murdered my best friend. Right. Like that's bonkers.
Damn, how do you act natural? So this whole thing was unsuccessful for the police because his story didn't change. Right. Like she asked him about it.
She brought it up. Story say the same. He was like, it's awful. I don't know what to tell you.
So he left for grad school in London. Yep. Case went cold. Shit.
So Russell finished grad school. He interned in shit and moved back to Dallas and he started a very successful architecture career. Okay. He married his wife Karen in the early 1990s.
Oh, he said he mentioned to her about what had happened in his life. By the way, Sheila, why Socky also moved on, but she was also not ready to give up on this whole thing because I was her best friend because she like she left college immediately after that. She said she couldn't handle it. I couldn't say that.
Not only was she just absolutely traumatized by losing her best friend and former roommate, but she said she was just scared. She didn't feel safe anywhere. That person she said as far as I knew if it wasn't Russell, which we still didn't know if it was Russell, this person could be walking around. Right.
And I was like, I could know that I was friends with her. Exactly. She was like a footer there too. Yeah.
Now Sheila moved to Nashville. She became a mom to two sons, but she became really, really frustrated that there was no justice for Angela. Yeah. She said, quote, I did not like the fact that Russell got to be this big deal architect and lived his life when he had taken the life of my roommate.
That bothered me. Oh, so she's convinced it's Russell. Okay. So she said one day and she like fixated on this case, but she just didn't feel like she could do anything about it.
So one day in 2004, she said she was sitting there studying studying for Bible classes and Angela just appeared to her. Okay. And she said, I know it sounds crazy. I know it sounds ridiculous.
It wasn't a hallucination or a voice or feeling. She said, Angela was standing at the end of my bed. Wow. I believe that should though.
And she said she was terrified. Yeah. But she said, I also knew exactly what I had to do. Wow.
Like she was like, she was telling me that I needed to fight this because the person was walking around. Angela was telling Sheila like this person is out there and this person can get caught. Yeah. To make it happen.
So she was like, all right, I got to do this. So she started obsessively calling the Dallas police to try to get someone to reopen the case. They all were telling her, no, it's, you know, some cases can't be fixed. It can't be solved.
It's just the way it is. We're sorry. We did everything we can. We're not going to reopen.
And Sheila was like, yeah, fuck that. Within one year, she called over 750 times about the opening the case. Yes, she did. I would do that for my best friend.
Right. And some of Angela's friends and former sorority sisters also started calling to like back her up. Good. Now Sheila said she even set up a quote War room in her house, where she would just pour over evidence.
Like I bet she had like a big wall with like the red string like going everywhere. Yeah, yeah. Like that's how I pictured at least. And she just wasn't going to give this up.
So at one to one time, Sheila's husband commented to her while she was in the midst of obsessing over the case, she came up with some connection that it was she said it wasn't like a meaningful one, but it was something in her husband was like, man, you would make a great private investigator. Oh, and he just said it like, yeah, you just mean that's something you would be great at. So she was like, huh, I'll do that. I'm going to do that.
Yes. And she literally got her private investigator's license to try to get access to the evidence that was in storage for Angela's murder. So she could go through it all crazy. So she said, and she said quote, the FBI has nothing on a worried mother.
Oh my God. Yes. And to get this, to get this license, she had to take like a test, obviously. And she had her sons like quizzing her every night.
Like she was really intense about it. And now while she was trying to get Angela's case reopened as a private investigator, right, because she figured as a private citizen, they're not listening to me. If I'm a private investigator, maybe they will take me slightly more serious. So in the meantime, she started taking on cases like private investigation cases for neighbors to like build her portfolio, cheating scandals.
She said something I read said, like, we had to stop going to cocktail parties because I was sitting next to people who I was like investigating their husband. Oh my God. And she's like, it just got a little weird. I had to like, really good Netflix show.
It really would. So finally, she says in 2006, the Dallas police finally talked to her seriously. And they did this because they had put a woman detective detective Linda Crum in the lead role for this case. And they reopened it because they finally took her because Linda Crum was like, I'm a detective Linda crumb was like, I'm gonna reopen this for you.
Yes. So it was like, I kind of loved it. It was like two women being like, fuck this, we're gonna solve it. And they were so at first she was like, we're gonna reopen this.
I don't know how much we're gonna have here. We're gonna do what we can. Right. But she found out that the evidence and storage did contain enough material from modern DNA testing, which is so fucking annoying because it's like, if it did, why couldn't it have been opened like way long ago?
Oh, yeah, it definitely could have done it. They were just like, sorry. Yeah, they just they were just sitting there being like, we don't know where to start here. So somewhere in 2008, so that was in 2006 that they reopened it.
Right. In 2008, they got a hit. Oh, and Linda Crum called Sheila and said, quote, we got him. Yes.
So Sheila says, quote, the next words I expected to hear were Russell Buchanan. But that's not what she said. She named this guy Donald Andrew Bess. I could feel my world turning upside down.
For 23 years in my mind, Russell Buchanan was the murderer. And in one split second, everything I thought I knew was no longer correct. I had made up my life goal to get this man behind bars. And suddenly I felt so guilty.
Oh, now that's why Angela appeared in front of her though. She was like, no, because she was like, you're going in the wrong direction. Yeah, I gotta reopen this. Something is showing that it's not him.
Right. If you just reopen it, it's gonna prove that he didn't do it. Oh, my god. So I know it doesn't like I have goosebumps.
That's like Shaley Willy Spooky Wookie. It's like an episode of ghost. It is fucking love that show of ghost. Yeah.
What was that? Jennifer Love Hewett. Ghost Whisper. Yeah, whatever.
Straight up ghost ghost. Ghost ghost. You know how movie that is a good movie. Yeah.
But I mean the show. Yeah. You know, Russell was also pretty stunned at this news because he was like, thank you. I can finally live my fucking life.
He was interned screaming from the rooftops. He got a phone call from the police. They actually he called he actually I think it was his wife who picked up the phone, but they got him back. And a sergeant with the Dallas police department said, Hey, we caught Angela, a samota's killer.
And it wasn't you because that what they said. And he was like, Hey, told you so. Yeah. Now.
So and actually Russell says that the sergeant did officially apologize. Oh, that's good. He said, quote, I'm looking through your file and boy, Mr Buchanan, you went through quite an ordeal. That's nice that they recognized that.
And he says at this time, he holds no bitterness for the Dallas police. Wow. He said, quote, it wasn't their fault. If that was your daughter that had been killed, wouldn't you want the police department to use whatever means necessary to find the truth?
I would. As far as I'm concerned, the Dallas police department does not owe me an apology. They never did. I'm grateful for the work and the service they did.
That's it. Period. Wow. Like he sounds like a really good guy.
I was like, Oh, look, shit. You spent so long just like being dodging like in murder claims as a this brutal rapist and murderer. And you're just like this good guy that's like, yeah, I get it guys. Also, like check out my box houses.
Yeah, look at my boxy houses. They're great. So let's talk about Donald Andrew Bess. Oh, yeah.
Fucking research. At this point in time, he was about 60 years old. Oh, wow. He was about 350 now.
60 years old when they found out that he was the killer. Yeah. He was about 350 pounds. Wow, which is much bigger than Angela.
Yeah. He was twice convicted of rape. How the fuck did he get out of the time that they found out that he was the killer. He was serving a life sentence in a state prison in Huntsville for for rape for two rapes.
Now, the police theorize that he was because he was out on parole in 1984. Oh my God. They said in parole officer. They said he must have become like obsessed and fixated on Angela after seeing her at the bar.
Oh, no. And in her friends do say like she constantly had like because she was a beautiful girl. Right. Very vivacious, very perky.
You know, life of the party, like we were saying. So she had a lot of dudes that would end up like kind of like her. Yeah, like becoming fixated on her. Right.
So police think that Donald Andrew Bess followed her home that night. And they think he probably began stabbing her with a kitchen knife to silence her when Ben knocked on the door. Oh my God. He may have finished the whole thing while Ben was calling the police from his truck.
No, no, I don't know. No, no, no, no, which that theory hurts me to myself. I don't want that to be the theory. I truly, truly hope that is not what happened.
Well, don't you think that it kind of wouldn't be because like she'd be screaming if she was getting stabbed? I mean, maybe not necessarily. Well, I'm gonna tell myself that if you hit somebody in like the windpipe or something like that, they're not gonna get it sound out. No, I think she was screaming.
I don't think that's what happened. And I mean, I hope that again, there's no good scenario here. But that is a really, really dark scenario. But that it's also like they were together.
Oh, I know this is really with her. And I don't have a lot of update on Ben and I wish I did. But I hope Ben's doing okay. Oh my God, me too.
Because how the fuck do you ever go after that Ben is doing? I hope they didn't tell him this theory. Like, yeah, man, I don't think that. Oh, well, Donald Bess's capital murder trial began in June 2010.
And Russell Buchanan testified against him. Yes. Good for him. Wow.
Yeah. So and again, at the time, so in the at the time when he killed Angela, he was on a parole for aggravated rape and aggravated kidnapping. And he raped another woman after or before it must have been after he killed Angela. And that's when he was sentenced to life in prison because they caught him for that.
Exactly. So yeah, so basically this fucker got away with murdering Angela, but then was put in life in prison for life for aggravated rape and kidnapping for violating his parole. Wow. Yeah.
And he was already in prison for two weeks. So this guy is a literal monster. He's just a monster. So when they try to again for Angela, he was found guilty and later sentenced to death for her murder.
The jury deliberated for less than an hour. Good. He currently remains on death row. But the case is was on appeal.
And there's no execution date that has been set yet. Why was it being appealed? Well, he gets his appeals. You always get appeals with the death penalty.
In summer 2010, while the trial was going on, she was said that she and her oldest son drove 650 miles from Nashville, the Dallas for the trial. Wow. And she said she just wouldn't miss it. She was like, I had to be there.
And she's like, Angela came to me for a reason. I had to go and see this through. She said she wasn't there for the sentence of death sentencing, because she was like, I didn't need to see that. I'm fine.
No, I know we did it. So Donald Bess did appeal his death sentence in 2016, but he lost the appeal. Good. Fuck him.
Yeah, he won't get any appeals like through. So Russell Buchanan now, like we said, he's a celebrated architect. He has super boxy contemporary homes that he is like known for. Yes, but they're beautiful.
They're like modern contemporary kind of thing. Cool. He's won a ton of prestigious awards. He fucking deserves it.
All that right. He's been an architectural digest. He also designs furniture and is an artist. And he has he is in a permanent collection at the Dallas Museum of Art.
Shit. So he's killing it. Killing it. And honestly, yeah, like he's owed a good, a good hand in life.
Yeah. In February of I think last year, Russell actually met with Sheila again. No way. Because the two of them came to Dallas to film an interview for an NBC Dateline show about the case.
I fucking love Dateline. Don't we all was our friend on it? Keith Morrison. Keith Morrison.