EPISODE · May 6, 2026 · 13 MIN
The Part Listeners Didn't Skip: Why Your First Product Should Look Cheap and Ugly - from our conversation with the Co-Founder of Collie, Daniel Reisman
from Tomorrow's Bites with Andrés and Sjacco · host Andrés and Sjacco
What if the ugliest product in the room turned out to be the most revolutionary? Most founders wait until things look polished before showing them to the world. Daniel Reisman did the opposite: he strapped a phone to a cow's neck, turned on vibration mode, and started a farming revolution. His co-founder Chris built a black box full of spaghetti wires, handed it to a skeptical farmer, and pushed a button. The cows stood up and walked to the barn. That was enough. With Daniel, co-founder of Collie, we explore why done and ugly beats perfect and invisible every time. In 14 min you learn why your first product just needs to work.Listen to the full episode here
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The Part Listeners Didn't Skip: Why Your First Product Should Look Cheap and Ugly - from our conversation with the Co-Founder of Collie, Daniel Reisman
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