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EPISODE · Jul 20, 2026 · 19 MIN

The Problem with the Rules . . . or the Possibilities

from The Wake-Up Call · host Seedbed

This episode centers on Mark 7 and Jesus’s challenge to religious legalism. J. D. Walt contrasts a “gotcha” mindset with a God who is “for us,” arguing that the heart of the law is not rigid rule-keeping but love, protection, and flourishing relationship with God and others. He emphasizes that what defiles a person is not external conformity but what comes from within, and he connects that message to the need for deep internal transformation through the Holy Spirit rather than surface-level obedience. The second half moves from teaching into reflection and application. J. D. shares how his own legal training shaped his understanding of the difference between law and legalism, then asks listeners to examine the brokenness that causes people to defend themselves, prove others wrong, and wound others in return. He closes with prayer, a hymn focus on turning our eyes to Jesus, and a program note promoting new women’s Bible studies from Seedbed, especially a study on James, while also previewing an upcoming week of Wake-Up Call leadership from Luann Riley. CHAPTERS: 00:00 Introduction and Morning Prayer 02:08 Understanding the Law: Letter vs. Spirit 08:08 The Role of Legalism in Faith 12:07 The Journey to Wholeness and Healing 16:03 New Initiatives and Community Engagement - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sing along with us! ► https://seedbed.com/hymnal/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Get the Wake-Up Call in your email each day ► https://seedbed.com/wakeupcall ⛪️ Are you a pastor? We'd love to connect ► https://seedbed.typeform.com/to/dymjFhUB Join the Field Team and help us sow the Wake-Up Call into new hearts ► https://seedbed.typeform.com/fieldteam Join the conversation: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/seedbedwakeupcall/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thewakeupcall/ Listen to the podcast: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-wake-up-call/id1040184070 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7t5qb5dpC7n0yxdyNsTKzTsi=e87495c982f145f6

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