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EPISODE · Jun 3, 2026 · 38 MIN

The Real Jesus Isn't What Most People Expect | Pastor Phill Tague

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In this episode of Sheila’s Take, host Sheila Dunbar welcomes Pastor Phill Tague, founding pastor of Ransom Church in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, and author of Jesus Be The Centerfold: Choosing Covenant Faith Over Airbrushed Christianity. Pastor Phill shares his journey of discovering the real Jesus beyond religion, rules, and appearances. From growing up in a legalistic environment to wrestling with hypocrisy, rebellion, and ultimately surrendering to Jesus’ lordship, Phill opens up about what it means to move from performance-based faith to a true covenant relationship with Christ. He also shares the powerful story of how he and his wife, Stephanie, were called to plant Ransom Church with a mission to “set captives free.” Together, they built the church around values of worship, freedom from sin, and serving free of self. Sheila and Pastor Phill discuss Wesleyan roots, holiness, grace, church planting through the Awaken Network, and the spiritual hunger rising in younger generations. This conversation invites listeners to seek Jesus with their whole heart, embrace grace, and place Christ at the center of everything. Listen now and be encouraged to stop chasing an airbrushed version of Christianity and discover the real Jesus for yourself.   00:00 Welcome and Purpose 00:45 Real Jesus Not Religion 01:28 Hot Take on Christianity 01:58 Show Intro and Guest 04:00 Calling to Plant Ransom 05:11 Set Captives Free Vision 06:59 Growing Up Legalistic 08:59 Running Then Surrender 10:57 Seasons Not Balance 12:58 Wesleyan Roots and Hope 17:01 Why Church Planting Works 18:46 Book Title and Metaphor 20:48 Jesus At The Center 21:17 Called To Write 22:57 Who The Book Is For 24:52 From Searching To Surrender 26:18 Why Grace Feels Hard 27:31 Rhythms That Keep Faith Alive 28:58 Intimacy Fully Known 30:03 Harley The Aussie Doodle 31:19 Lightning Round Favorites 33:05 Lessons From Kids And Ministry 34:17 Grateful For Second Chances 35:04 Where To Find The Book 36:46 Final Charge And Farewell     🔔 **Subscribe** to Sheila's Take for more inspiring interviews and discussions! Hit that [LIKE 👍] button if you find our content valuable!   📢 **Connect with Us:**  **Instagram:**  **Youtube:**  Facebook: **To be a guest **

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