The Real Story Behind the UFC's White House Event + Gaethje's Path to Beating Topuria

from You're Welcome! With Chael Sonnen · host Chael Sonnen

The UFC's White House card could change everything—and Chael explains why the biggest story might not be the one everyone's expecting. Could Bo Nickal force his way back into title conversations? Is Michael Chandler nearing the end of his MMA career? And why does Chael believe Josh Hokit could become one of the week's biggest headlines? Chael also breaks down why Justin Gaethje may have a much better chance against Ilia Topuria than many believe—and why Arman Tsarukyan reportedly put a million dollars behind Gaethje. Then, Chael explores what's next for Belal Muhammad - Sean O'Malley's honesty about his position at bantamweight and why so few fighters truly embrace the "I'll fight anybody" mentality. Head to https://www.tryfum.com/WELCOMECHAEL to get your free gift with purchase, and start The Good Habit today! To support this program, please review it on Apple Podcasts or submit a rating on my Spotify page. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Chael explains why the biggest WH Card story might not be the one everyone's expecting. Why Josh Hokit could become one of the week's biggest headlines. And breaks down why Justin Gaethje may have a much better chance against Ilia Topuria than many believe.

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