The Secret Language Mackenzie Shirilla Created With Her Mom to Beat Prison Monitoring

They knew the calls were recorded. So Mackenzie Shirilla and her mother Natalie built their own language. A private code designed to say things on a monitored jail phone line that the system wouldn’t catch. Prosecutors cracked it. They introduced what they found at trial. The content of those decoded conversations tells you more about the Shirilla family than anything Steve said on Netflix or anything Natalie said about the Russos.Listeners have been tracking this family since the conviction. They watched Steve defend his daughter’s innocence on camera and lose his teaching position. They heard Natalie call the family of a murdered twenty-year-old “evil.” They listened to Mackenzie worry about her belongings from a jail cell while two families grieved. And they came back with one question: who built this person?Robin Dreeke, retired FBI Special Agent and former chief of the Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program, joins Tony Brueski to address that question directly. He walks through what coded communication on a monitored line tells you about the parent-child dynamic, what the documented absence of remorse language means, and whether the family’s ongoing public defense is protecting Mackenzie or preventing her from ever facing accountability. Everything discussed is drawn from the public record.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#MackenzieShirilla #NatalieShirilla #SteveShirilla #TheCrash #Netflix #DominicRusso #DavionFlanagan #RobinDreeke #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime