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EPISODE · Jun 1, 2026 · 16 MIN

Three Levels Deep: Conversation Not Pitching

from Drop the Stress Not the Ball

What if the most powerful skill in a sales conversation is one you're already doing — just not in your sales conversations? In this episode, Shaun Enright breaks down Springboarding — the art of going three levels deep before you present anything — and why it immediately changes your conversions, the depth of your client relationships, and how accurately you understand the person in front of you. Using a story about his late father's one-trick approach to rapport, the Monday morning catch-up, and a little Italian restaurant in Barangaroo, Shaun shows why most heart-led coaches and consultants lose the sale not because of their offer or their price — but because they respond to level one when the real buying decision lives at level three. You'll walk away with a simple set of phrases you can use in your very next conversation, a clear map of how Connection questions differ from Analyze questions inside the C.A.R.E. Framework, and one immediately actionable next step that will change how every client conversation feels — for both of you. Because as Dan Lok puts it — people don't buy from you because they understand what you sell. They buy from you because they feel understood. And when clients feel understood... they buy the goods. WHAT YOU'LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE Why going three levels deep changes everything in a sales conversation The difference between Connection questions and Analyze questions — and when to use each The simplest Springboarding phrases you can start using today Why your client's exact words are more important than anything you could say How to stop waiting to pitch and start genuinely listening LINKS & RESOURCES 🌐 Website: zenright.com.au 📅 Book a conversation: calendly.com/saenright01/30minute 📧 Email: [email protected] CONNECT WITH SHAUN If today's episode landed for you — share it with a coach or consultant who needs to hear it. And drop a comment or review letting Shaun know your biggest takeaway. Zenright Living | Facebook Drop the Stress, Not the Ball — helping heart-led coaches build thriving businesses without selling out or burning out. © Shaun Enright | Peak Flow Performance | zenright.com.au

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