Training That Actually Trains with Brandon Steckler & Bob Leonard [E206]

Thanks to our Partner, NAPA Autotech Training and Pico TechnologyWatch Full Video EpisodeLive from “pre-ASTA,” Matt sits down with two “industry nobodies” (his words) who… are anything but. The trio gets honest about what makes training worth the time and money—and what ruins it. They dig into presenter prep (yes, 40 hours for a 4-hour class), class vetting, sponsor pressure, why a sexy scope trick isn’t always the right first move, and how to bring new voices onto the stage without burning attendees. They also share practical advice for first-timers at training expos so you learn more and regret less.What we coverWhy one weak class can poison a whole event—and how to prevent itThe difference between a presenter and an educatorBrandon’s CTI “boot camp” lessons: pacing, body language, audience interactionTeaching your experience vs. reading someone else’s slidesThe “pico math channel” vs. relative compression—start simple, earn the complexityReal-world prep: building a class, flow, case study sourcing, time costs no one seesSponsor dynamics: class quality vs. class quantityVetting ideas: short audition decks, Zoom mini-presentations, real Q&APathways for new trainers: Techs Informing Techs, vision-style tech talks, co-teaching/mentorshipFeedback that helps: beyond Scantron; what to write so organizers can actAttendee playbook: note-taking, pacing yourself, lobby networking, post-event reviewQuick takeawaysFor trainersIf you didn’t write the class, make it your own—prep until you could answer questions without the deck.Lead with the right test, not the flashiest one. Wow factor is not a learning objective.Ask a veteran to review your flow. Co-teach if you can.For event organizersDon’t let sponsorship replace standards. Vet instructors with a 10–15 slide audition + live Q&A.Reward quality: fewer tracks > more mediocre tracks.Follow up for feedback after the event; invite longer-form comments.For attendeesBring a notebook/app, a highlighter, and capture 3 “do-this-Monday” items per session.Don’t try to copy every slide—listen for the why and the decision tree.Network on purpose. Introduce yourself. Follow up a week later as you review notes.Notable moments/quotes“Teaching is the fun part—I’d do that for free. You’re really paying for the prep.” — Brandon“You can’t preach ‘training matters’ and then short-change the delivery.” — Matt“We need an on-ramp for new presenters—safe reps before three-hour sets.” — Matt“Start with the test that answers the question fastest.” — BobShout-outs & mentionsMobilityWorks — Bob’s focus on vehicles modified for physically disabled drivers/passengersCTI/Worldpac instructor boot camp (presenter craft)Techs Informing Techs / vision-style tech talks — great first stage repsPico Technology concepts referenced (math channels, relative compression)Who this episode helpsTechs deciding whether to spend the time/money to travel for trainingNew and aspiring trainers looking for the right entry pathOrganizers who want higher attendee retention and better word-of-mouthCall to actionBeen to a class that changed your workflow—or wasted your time? Send Matt what made the difference and why.If you’re an aspiring presenter with a killer case study, draft a 10-slide mini and reach out—let’s get you reps at a tech-talk format.Thanks to our Partner, NAPA Autotech TrainingNAPA Autotech’s team of ASE Master Certified Instructors are conducting over 1,200 classes covering 28 automotive topics. To see a selection, go to napaautotech.com for more details.Thanks to our Partner, Pico TechnologyAre you chasing elusive automotive problems? Pico Technology empowers you to see what's really happening. Their PicoScope oscilloscopes transform your diagnostic capabilities. Pinpoint faults in sensors, wiring, and components with unmatched accuracy. Visit PicoAuto.com and revolutionize your diagnostics today! Contact InformationEmail Matt: [email protected] the Aftermarket A - Z YouTube Channel Subscribe & Review: Loved this episode? 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