Transcend and Include with Marcus Jones

In this week's episode Phil and Jenny are joined by Marcus Jones, Director of the Wesley Foundation at the University of Texas at Arlington. After referencing this concept in many episodes, Phil and Jenny invited Marcus to discuss this idea of Transcend and Include. They reflect on their own spiritual journeys and the various faith traditions they have been a part of, while also emphasizing the importance of deep spirituality and spiritual disciplines in their lives. Marcus shares how he incorporates grace into his growth process and how he engages in conversational scripture reading to challenge and dismantle preconceived notions. They also discuss the future of the church and the need for lay-driven ministry. References from this episode:SankofaIntegral Theory by Ken WilberDancing in the Darkness: Spiritual Lessons for Thriving in Turbulent Times by Otis Moss IIIBlack Liturgies: Prayers, Poems, and Meditations for Staying Human by Cole Arthur RileyHope is Here!: Spiritual Practices for Pursuing Justice and Beloved Community by Luther E. SmithYou can find Marcus:Marcu's blog Informed Scholaron social @marcus.m.jonesChapters00:00 Introduction and Background00:27 Transcendent Include04:24 Faith Background and Spiritual Formation06:37 Youth Ministry and Sneakers as a Ministry09:21 Transition to United Methodist Church10:20 Progressive Theological Development12:03 Themes of Social Justice and Missionary Baptist Background12:25 Moving from Conservative Theology to Liberal, Progressive, and Centered15:40 Clothing Ideas and Concepts in Grace17:46 Learning from the Past and Mentors20:00 Purity Culture and Guilt20:27 Moving Past Shame20:45 Prayer and Spiritual Disciplines25:39 Reading Scripture Formationally30:57 The Future of the Church33:16 Expanding Worldview36:32 Eliminating Poverty