Transcend and Include with Marcus Jones

In this week's episode Phil and Jenny are joined by Marcus Jones, Director of the Wesley Foundation at the University of Texas at Arlington. After referencing this concept in many episodes, Phil and Jenny invited Marcus to discuss this idea of Transcend and Include. They reflect on their own spiritual journeys and the various faith traditions they have been a part of, while also emphasizing the importance of deep spirituality and spiritual disciplines in their lives. Marcus shares how he incorporates grace into his growth process and how he engages in conversational scripture reading to challenge and dismantle preconceived notions. They also discuss the future of the church and the need for lay-driven ministry. References from this episode: Sankofa Integral Theory by Ken Wilber Dancing in the Darkness: Spiritual Lessons for Thriving in Turbulent Times by Otis Moss III Black Liturgies: Prayers, Poems, and Meditations for Staying Human by Cole Arthur Riley Hope is Here!: Spiritual Practices for Pursuing Justice and Beloved Community by Luther E. Smith You can find Marcus: Marcu's blog Informed Scholar on social @marcus.m.jones Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 00:27 Transcendent Include 04:24 Faith Background and Spiritual Formation 06:37 Youth Ministry and Sneakers as a Ministry 09:21 Transition to United Methodist Church 10:20 Progressive Theological Development 12:03 Themes of Social Justice and Missionary Baptist Background 12:25 Moving from Conservative Theology to Liberal, Progressive, and Centered 15:40 Clothing Ideas and Concepts in Grace 17:46 Learning from the Past and Mentors 20:00 Purity Culture and Guilt 20:27 Moving Past Shame 20:45 Prayer and Spiritual Disciplines 25:39 Reading Scripture Formationally 30:57 The Future of the Church 33:16 Expanding Worldview 36:32 Eliminating Poverty