Trauma Bonds Explained: Why You Keep Attracting Narcissists episode artwork

EPISODE · Jan 24, 2026 · 33 MIN

Trauma Bonds Explained: Why You Keep Attracting Narcissists

from Been There Got Out Podcast · host Chris & Lisa | Sherry Gaba

"I finally got out of that toxic relationship! I'm never doing that again!"Six months later: Same person, different body.If this pattern sounds familiar, you're not alone—and according to trauma therapist Sherry Gaba, it's not your fault. But it is something you need to understand if you ever want to break free."Love addicts are in love with love," Sherry explains. "And when they don't have a relationship, it feels like they are in the ethers of emptiness. So they will often settle for less because they feel so empty."That emptiness isn't weakness. It's not being "too needy" or "not strong enough." It's an attachment wound—often formed before you could even speak—that created a nervous system wired to associate chaos with love and safety with boredom.The good news? Once you understand how trauma bonds form, how intermittent reinforcement hijacks your dopamine system, and why your body literally becomes addicted to emotional chaos, you can finally start rewiring your patterns.What Makes This Conversation Essential:🎯 Names the exact cycle ("same person, different body")🎯 Explains WHY safe feels boring (nervous system conditioning)🎯 Reveals early attachment wounds most people don't know they have🎯 Shows how toxic partners "hook you in" from the beginning🎯 Unpacks intermittent reinforcement = slot machine addiction🎯 Provides daily practices for recognizing worth beyond people-pleasing🎯 Shares Sherry's personal recovery journey (love addict → trauma therapist)🎯 Explains different types of addiction (love vs. codependency vs. romance)🎯 Offers specific 12-step program recommendationsPerfect For:- Anyone who keeps attracting the same toxic partner- People whose ex had addiction issues or personality disorders- Those recovering from narcissistic abuse- Anyone who feels empty without a romantic relationship- People who find "stable" partners boring- Those dealing with shame about their "bad picker"- Anyone ready to understand the neuroscience of their patterns- People who need permission to choose safety over excitement- Those seeking community support that actually healsAbout Sherry Gaba:Sherry Gaba is living proof that understanding your patterns can transform your life. A psychotherapist and love addiction specialist, Sherry describes herself as "a love addict in recovery"—someone who experienced the emptiness, the people-pleasing, the turning herself "into a pretzel" to please unavailable partners. Her attachment wound? Being premature and spending her first three months in an incubator without maternal contact. "I was in an incubator. I did not get that first three months of attachment with my mom. So I had a lot of separation anxiety, attachment wounds." This early rupture, combined with an emotionally unavailable mother, set up lifelong patterns of seeking external validation. After being married to an alcoholic, Sherry shifted from working with addicts to working with families of addicts—recognizing her own codependency. Her specialty now encompasses love addiction, codependency, toxic relationships, and narcissistic abuse, using deep trauma therapy to help people connect internally rather than seeking external sources. Al-Anon literally changed the geography of her life—she moved from California to Florida because of connections made in recovery. Author of "Love Smacked," Sherry offers a free trauma quiz to help people understand the childhood roots of their relationship patterns.⏱️ TIMESTAMPS:00:00 - Introduction: Breaking the cycle of toxic relationships01:28 - The link between domestic violence and love addiction03:10 - Sherry's background: From addiction work to toxic relationships04:54 - The early attachment wound: Premature birth and incubator effects06:55 - Why you're attracted to what you know (even when it's harmful)08:31 - Love at fir

"I finally got out of that toxic relationship! I'm never doing that again!" Six months later: Same person, different body. If this pattern sounds familiar, you're not alone—and according to trauma therapist Sherry Gaba, it's not your fault. But it is something you need to understand if you ever want to break free. "Love addicts are in love with love," Sherry explains. "And when they don't have a relationship, it feels like they are in the ethers of emptiness. So they will often settle for l...

NOW PLAYING

Trauma Bonds Explained: Why You Keep Attracting Narcissists

0:00 33:12

No transcript for this episode yet

We transcribe on demand. Request one and we'll notify you when it's ready — usually under 10 minutes.

That Hoarder: Overcome Compulsive Hoarding That Hoarder Hoarding disorder is stigmatised and people who hoard feel vast amounts of shame. This podcast began life as an audio diary, an anonymous outlet for somebody with this weird condition. That Hoarder speaks about her experiences living with compulsive hoarding, she interviews therapists, academics, researchers, children of hoarders, professional organisers and influencers, and she shares insight and tips for others with the problem. Listened to by people who hoard as well as those who love them and those who work with them, Overcome Compulsive Hoarding with That Hoarder aims to shatter the stigma, share the truth and speak openly and honestly to improve lives. The Small Business Startup School – Business Notes | Financial Literacy | Retail Psychology – For Professionals & Entrepreneurs The Small Business Startup School Inc. Starting or buying a small business? While personal circumstances may vary, business patterns remain timeless. On The Small Business Startup School, we explore strategies, insights, and practical solutions to help entrepreneurs confidently navigate their journey.Hosted by Ola Williams—a retail entrepreneur, fintech founder, and financial coach with over two decades of experience—this podcast marries financial awareness and retail psychology with optimism to deliver actionable takeaways.Join us to learn, grow, and connect as we uncover the keys to business success.Let’s continue to learn together and be encouraged to keep on connecting! HOMELAND HOMELAND The Church is a body not a building. It's the bride of Jesus Christ! Jesus is coming back for a mature bride. That means it's time for the church of Jesus Christ to move from milk to meat. This is the hour of maturity!HOMELAND is an announcement that the church is being set free. Only the church has the ability to transform the world. The kingdom's of this world will become the kingdoms of our Lord and Savior!All of creation has been waiting for this moment! Sons and daughters of God are rising up and taking their seat! DIOSA. Carolina Sanper This podcast is a sacred space created by Carolina Sanper where you connect with your inner wisdom and embody your magnetic feminine power.It is the realization that the mystical realm is where you plant the seeds of your desired reality.It is a portal to your true essence: awareness, presence, and receiving with ease. Welcome home, DIOSA. 🖤

Frequently Asked Questions

How long is this episode of Been There Got Out Podcast?

This episode is 33 minutes long.

When was this Been There Got Out Podcast episode published?

This episode was published on January 24, 2026.

What is this episode about?

"I finally got out of that toxic relationship! I'm never doing that again!"Six months later: Same person, different body.If this pattern sounds familiar, you're not alone—and according to trauma therapist Sherry Gaba, it's not your fault. But it is...

Can I download this Been There Got Out Podcast episode?

Yes, you can download this episode by clicking the download button on the episode player, or subscribe to the podcast in your preferred podcast app for automatic downloads.
URL copied to clipboard!