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EPISODE · Jul 2, 2026 · 1H 6M

Un-M-Othered: A Revolution in Adoptee Healing - Five Adoptees on Experiencing the Five Conditions

from The Resilience Project · host Julie Brumley

LinksHow to connect with all Dr. Liz is doingSchedule a Connection Time with JulieLooking for Community Like the Retreat Created?Five Voices, One RoomThis episode is different from the rest of the series. Instead of teaching the five conditions solo, Julie sits down with Dr. Liz DeBetta and five adoptees - Mike, Jill, Nicole, Jeremy, and Jen - who were part of the Un-M-Othered retreat in Moscow, Idaho this past May. Together they walk back through Curiosity, Clarity, Capacity, Connection, and Consistency, this time through the lived experience of the people who were actually in the room.The retreat itself was born from a request: Julie's client Mike asked her to bring Dr. Liz's Un-M-Othered film to his community, not realizing Julie and Liz had already been dreaming up exactly that. Their two frameworks - Liz's Migrating Toward Wholeness and Julie's 7-phase Belonging Blueprint - anchored the weekend.In this episode:Why Mike reached out for something deeper than what already existed for adopteesWhat it felt like for Dr. Liz to watch years of dreaming become a room full of real peopleJeremy and Jen on what it meant to walk in as siblings who share an adoption story, versus Jill and Nicole walking in aloneHow curiosity showed up differently in the body the second time watching Liz's filmNicole on reframing hypervigilance as a skill rather than only a woundThe origin of Dr. Liz's mantra: more stories = more connection, more connection = more healingJen's experience of staying with discomfort instead of disappearing, and what self-abandonment looks like for herHow Dr. Liz's Migrating Toward Wholeness framework supports the "return to self" through writingJeremy and Jen on being witnessed by a room that didn't require translation or explanationJill's puzzle-piece analogy for incremental shifts, and Julie's grains-of-rice metaphor for how transformation actually happensWhat it feels like in a room when multiple adoptees find language for the same unnamed thing at the same timeEach guest's one sustainable next step two weeks post-retreatThe closing round: what each person is no longer available for, and what they're actively reclaimingClosing words - three words for the body right now: Jill: relax, believe, peace Nicole: content, hope, fulfilled Jen: healing, open, present Mike: grateful, hopeful, content Jeremy: grateful, curious, calmWhat's next for Dr. Liz DeBetta: Monthly virtual retreats resuming late August, small group coaching launching in fall and spring cohorts, ongoing one-on-one work, and a free monthly drop-in circle open to anyone in the adoption constellation.A second Un-M-Othered retreat with Julie and Liz is in the works - date to be announced soon.WebsiteInstagram: @juliebrumley_Facebook: julierasbrumTikTok: @juliebrumley_Click to Join My Free Adoptee Facebook GroupYou Tube: @julie_brumley

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Links How to connect with all Dr. Liz is doing Schedule a Connection Time with Julie Looking for Community Like the Retreat Created? Five Voices, One Room This episode is different from the rest of the series. Instead of teaching the five conditions solo, Julie sits down with Dr. Liz DeBetta and five adoptees - Mike, Jill, Nicole, Jeremy, and Jen - who were part of the Un-M-Othered retreat in Moscow, Idaho this past May. Together they walk back through Curiosity, Clarity, Capacity, Connection...

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