Understanding Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA): Why It’s Not Defiance, It’s Autonomy

In this solo episode of the Able to Care podcast, behaviour specialist, trainer, and author Andy Baker unpacks Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA)—or as many now prefer to call it, a Persistent Drive for Autonomy. If you’ve ever supported someone—child or adult—who seemed to resist even the simplest of requests, this episode will help you understand what’s really going on beneath the surface. Andy explores: What PDA is (and why language matters) Why traditional behaviour strategies often make things worse How to shift from confrontation to collaboration Practical, compassionate strategies for reducing anxiety and increasing cooperation This episode is a must-listen for parents, carers, teachers, and support staff seeking a more empathetic and effective approach to neurodivergent behaviour. 💙 Sponsored by Carers Card UK Instagram – @abletraininguk Facebook – Able Training LinkedIn – Andy Baker