UnHack (the Podcast): Your Vulnerability Scanner Is Lying to You with Jack Kufahl & Gregory Garneau

January 27, 2026: Jack Kufahl, CISO at Michigan Medicine, and Gregory Garneau, System VP and CISO at Hospital Sisters Health System, join Drex for an unfiltered conversation about building cybersecurity programs that outlast their founders. From hiring curious minds over credentialed experts to ditching traditional vulnerability management for threat-driven exposure strategies, these battle-tested CISOs reveal what actually works in healthcare security. They challenge conventional wisdom on staffing models, vendor relationships, and the real cost of forcing extraordinary people into ordinary roles. If you're tired of the same workforce shortage statistics and ready for actionable strategies, this conversation delivers.Key Points:05:09 Creating a World-Class Cybersecurity Team19:50 Disruptive Startups in Cybersecurity20:51 Importance of Vendor Partnerships22:48 Training and Career Development27:18 Leadership and Management InsightsGolf Tournament Registration:  https://carahevents.carahsoft.com/Event/Details/686801-ThisWeekHealthX: This Week HealthLinkedIn: This Week HealthDonate: Alex’s Lemonade Stand: Foundation for Childhood Cancer