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EPISODE · Oct 28, 2025 · 17 MIN

UnHack (the Podcast): Zero Trust and the Identity Perimeter with Mary Dickerson and Gordon Groschl

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October 28, 2025: Mary Dickerson, Associate VP and CISO of UTHealth Houston & Gordon Groschl, CISO and Director of HTM at Texas Children’s Hospitals, discuss the current research landscape. Identity has become the ultimate battleground in healthcare security, but most organizations still don't have the fundamentals right. From securing non-human identities to enabling research without compromising compliance, these CISOs share hard-won lessons from the frontlines. Key Points:03:36 Challenges in Integrating Research and Clinical Services06:10 Building Secure and Agile Research Environments10:04 Collaboration Across Institutions for Research12:11 Top Projects: AI in Radiology14:58 Merging Identity and Security OperationsX: This Week HealthLinkedIn: This Week HealthDonate: Alex’s Lemonade Stand: Foundation for Childhood Cancer

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