EPISODE · Oct 1, 2025 · 27 MIN
Two Brothers from the Spirit World | Frederick William Hurst & Temple Work (LDS)
from THINNING OF THE VEIL · host Tia Smith
Send us Fan MailWhat do spirit-world visitations teach Latter-day Saints (LDS) about temple and family history work? In this episode, Tia Smith shares the documented account of her ancestor Frederick William Hurst, who was painting the Salt Lake Temple in 1892–93 when his deceased brother Alfred appeared to him. Alfred testified that the spirit world was as real as Frederick had taught him on his mission, that he had come to believe in Jesus Christ, faith, repentance, and baptism — but could go no further without the temple work only the living can perform: "I look to you to do the work for me in the temple." Moments later a second brother, Alexander, whose ordinances had been done, appeared more light-filled to explain he still could not advance until he was sealed to his wife. Tia draws out the heart of it: nearly every thinning-of-the-veil experience is a message that the work is not finished — that an ancestor is waiting and relying on us. The episode also reflects tenderly on why, as Brent and Wendy Top and the Prophet Joseph Smith have taught, the doctrines of death, the premortal world, and the spirit world are exactly what we most need to study, and that this life is not the end but a short, vital part of an eternal journey rooted in love.Q: What do Latter-day Saints believe spirit-world visitations mean for family history work?A: This episode teaches that such experiences are usually a message that an ancestor's work is unfinished and that they are relying on the living to complete it. Tia Smith illustrates this with the account of Frederick William Hurst, whose deceased brothers appeared to ask for temple ordinances they could not perform for themselves.Q: Who was Frederick William Hurst, and what happened while he worked on the Salt Lake Temple?A: Frederick William Hurst was a Latter-day Saint who helped paint the Salt Lake Temple in 1892–93. This episode recounts his written testimony that his deceased brother Alfred appeared and pleaded for his temple work to be done, and that a second brother, Alexander, appeared to explain he could not progress further until he was sealed to his wife.Q: Why can't people in the spirit world complete their own ordinances?A: In LDS belief, saving ordinances such as baptism and sealing must be performed in mortality, so those who died without them depend on the living to act as proxies. In this episode, Frederick William Hurst's brother testifies that he believes and has repented but "cannot advance another step" until the temple work is done for him.Q: Why does studying the doctrine of the spirit world matter, especially in hard times?A: This episode teaches that understanding death, the premortal world, and the plan of salvation gives real comfort and purpose, reminding us that this life is a brief but vital part of an eternal journey. Tia Smith echoes Brent and Wendy Top and the Prophet Joseph Smith that these are among the most important doctrines we can study, and that the work of gathering Israel on both sides of the veil is ultimately about love.▶️ WATCH & LISTEN🎬 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thinningoftheveil🌐 Website: https://www.thinningoftheveil.com🎧 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thinning-of-the-veil/id1753511394🟢 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6jWCfMHkZXwnSwy2b98J4M🎵 Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/a0a45561-d4c2-46d3-af8d-a1e967a21a25📖 BOOKPatterns of Revelation — Spiritual Foundations for Hearing God's Voice: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BW36MG9B📱 CONNECTInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinning.of.the.veilFacebook Group (Gathering of the Gatherers): https://www.facebook.com/groups/1429562078443774Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thinningoftheveil💛 SUPPORT THE SHOWVenmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/thinningoftheveilPayPal: https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil✉️ Have you had a thinning of the veil experience? Email [email protected] — your testimony may be exactly what someone needs to hear.#ThinningOfTheVeil #SpiritWorld #TempleWork #FamilyHistory #LDS #LatterDaySaints #GatheringOfIsrael #MinisteringAngels #FamilySearch #PersonalRevelationCITATIONS:Fredrick William Hurst FamilySearch: https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/memories/KWJ6-9FTSupport the show
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Send us Fan Mail What do spirit-world visitations teach Latter-day Saints (LDS) about temple and family history work? In this episode, Tia Smith shares the documented account of her ancestor Frederick William Hurst, who was painting the Salt Lake Temple in 1892–93 when his deceased brother Alfred appeared to him. Alfred testified that the spirit world was as real as Frederick had taught him on his mission, that he had come to believe in Jesus Christ, faith, repentance, and baptism — but could...
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