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vol.329 小心划水|拯救世界太远,不如先吃晚饭

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在本期久违的划水中,刚从搬家的疲惫中喘过气来的miya和划水怪,就在北京的新录音棚里,从《碟中谍8:致命清算》聊起,当然,这不只是一次影评对话,而是一场对超级英雄叙事的“祛魅”现场。划水怪直言,自己对《碟中谍8》乃至大部分国产电影都已“很难有信心”。这种失望并非凭空而来。首先,两人犀利吐槽了电影中所有“雷声大雨点小”的设定:那个意图毁灭人类的AI反派,强大到能控制全球核弹,却对付不了一个U盘;那些本该惊心动魄的智斗,最终沦为满世界找一把“散发着劣质权游味道”的实体钥匙。接着,俩人还吐槽了动机的缺失。Ethan Hunt 为何非要一次次拯救世界?影片给出的答案只剩下空洞的“Only You”。相征一针见血地指出,这背后或许是汤姆·克鲁斯本人“一种强大的不安”和“想要不断证明自己”的焦虑。电影不再是讲述角色故事的作品,而成了超级巨星彰显“我依然牛逼”的个人秀场。俩人进一步拆解了这种叙事背后的文化逻辑。miya发现,这类电影依赖的“美国梦”和个人主义价值观,在当今现实中已愈发显得苍白甚至虚伪。“你在这么多年里面,其实是能够看到美国做出的一些选择的。你也在嚯嚯那些你没有见过面的人。划水怪则给出了一个更为冷酷的视角:超级英雄在别的对面的人看来,他也是个超级恶棍儿而已。这个世界的运行规则,并非英雄与恶棍的二元对立,而是立场与利益的复杂博弈。当曾经深信不疑的“救世主”神话破产,我们该如何自处?当然,节目并非想把大家引导到虚无,而是希望对宏大叙事进行一番解构后,回归了最具体、最细微的日常。划水怪分享了一个生活小片段:前一晚他因加班错过饭点,回家后两人一起点了美味的烤鸡和肋排,边吃边看片,所有疲惫和对世界的吐槽都在此刻被治愈。他总结道:“不要把自己活在那些主义里头……你的生活还是应该有很具体的、细微的甜美的愉快。更多精彩,欢迎收听本期节目~~--时间戳--04:35 令人灰心的院线电影11:08 阿汤哥的强烈不安?15:01 碟中谍 vs 谍影重重16:21 碟中谍bug:only you拯救世界22:36 电影成为了明星自我的表达41:02 英雄电影的“迟暮感”49:38 对英雄电影套路的厌倦感53:39 远去的美国梦57:31 超级英雄=超级恶棍01:02:10 拯救世界没有一顿饭重要/SONG LIST/ Main Titles (from Mission: Impossible - The Final Reckoning)--枕边风小卖部--倉本KURAMOTO系列 清酒——8.5折限时特惠!--加听友群--加深夜谈谈子微信(微信号: SYTT-midnightalks)并回复:枕边风听众群,即可进群。--本期团队-- 主播 / miya 相征后期 / 昊宇 yiwen制作人 / yiwen视觉设计 / 小王--本节目由深夜谈谈 MidnightNetwork出品—-深夜谈谈播客网络旗下播客:大内密谈、枕边风、空岛、随便聪明、淮海333-你还可以在这里找到我们:小红书:@miya 、@深夜谈谈微博:@枕边风theuglytruth微信公众号:枕边风theuglytruth商务合作邮箱:[email protected]

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