War didn't end in 1945. It was outsourced. | Clara Mattei & Munira Khayyat episode artwork

EPISODE · Apr 29, 2026 · 1H 22M

War didn't end in 1945. It was outsourced. | Clara Mattei & Munira Khayyat

from FREE with Clara Mattei · host Clara Mattei

Professor Munira Khayyat is speaking from Beirut, where she's currently hosting over 30 displaced families as Israel expands its invasion of South Lebanon. She has studied and lived in war for over two decades. Her book, A Landscape of War, builds a theory of war from the ground — from the farmers, beekeepers, and families who refuse to leave their land.In this conversation with Clara Mattei, she explains why the "peace" that followed World War II was only peace for the powerful — and permanent war for everyone else. From South Lebanon to Gaza, from the Cold War to today, war has never been an aberration. It's a feature of the system.In this episode:• What is happening in Lebanon right now — 1.5 million displaced, bombardment of Beirut, occupation expanding• Why Western theories of war treat it as an exception when it's a permanent condition for most of the world• How capitalism, empire, and settler colonialism converge in the war on Lebanon• The 22-year Israeli occupation and the roots of Lebanese resistance• Life as resistance — how people survive in conditions designed to make survival impossible• The connection between austerity, financial collapse, and war• Why borders drawn by Europeans still define who lives and who dies• What "decolonizing war" means from someone living inside oneSUPPORT DISPLACED FAMILIES IN LEBANON:https://www.gofundme.com/f/mqg2kw-support-displaced-families-in-lebanonABOUT THE GUEST:Munira Khayyat is Clinical Associate Professor of Anthropology at NYU Abu Dhabi. Her book A Landscape of War: Ecologies of Resistance and Survival in South Lebanon (University of California Press, 2022) won the Edie Turner First Book Prize in Ethnographic Writing.Book: https://www.amazon.com/Landscape-War-Ecologies-Resistance-Survival/dp/0520389999X: https://x.com/mu_kha2🔔 Subscribe to FREE (Forum for Real Economic Emancipation) @FreeFreeForum⁩Watch AD-FREE: https://patreon.com/freefreeforum❤️ Learn more, and join the FREE Forum: https://freefreeforum.org🌱 Support FREE & Help Us Grow: https://www.freefreeforum.org/donate▶ Connect with FREELinktree: https://linktr.ee/FreeFreeForumSubstack: https://freefreeforum.substack.com/X: https://x.com/freefreeforumBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/freefreeforum.bsky.socialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/freefreeforum/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@freefreeforumFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/FreeFreeForumChapters:00:00:00 - Introduction00:00:44 - What's Happening in Lebanon Right Now00:03:15 - A Month of Bombardment and Displacement00:07:35 - 1.5 Million Displaced: The Humanitarian Crisis00:11:07 - How Do People Live in Unlivable Conditions00:12:47 - What It Means to Decolonize War00:15:22 - The Atomic Bomb and the "Peace" That Followed00:18:33 - War Never Ended — It Was Outsourced00:24:39 - Empire, Capitalism, and Endless War00:28:15 - How Europeans Drew the Border Between Lebanon and Palestine00:37:13 - Lebanon and Palestine: An Entwined Struggle00:44:24 - The Roots of Lebanese Resistance00:51:38 - Life as Resistance: Growing Up in a War Zone00:55:56 - Religion, Identity, and the Nation State01:03:09 - Resistant Ecologies: Farmers, Beekeepers, and the Fight for Land01:14:52 - What Comes Next: War, Austerity, and the Future01:21:35 - Closing#Lebanon #SouthLebanon #War #Occupation #Resistance #PoliticalEconomy #ClaraMattei #Anthropology #FREEPodcast

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Professor Munira Khayyat is speaking from Beirut, where she's currently hosting over 30 displaced families as Israel expands its invasion of South Lebanon. She has studied and lived in war for over two decades. Her book, A Landscape of War, builds a...

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