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EPISODE · Jun 2, 2026 · 39 MIN

We Stopped Building Software. We Build LEGO Bricks Now. | Lazy Leverage #111

from Lazy Leverage · host Jon Matzner and Peter Lohmann

Jon sits down with Zaki Mahomed, Sagan's President of AI, to expose the LEGO brick strategy behind 50+ AI agent deployments. Why most AI projects die before they launch, the $500 agent that beats $25,000 SaaS contracts, and the brutal gap between weekend vibe coding and actually shipping AI inside your real business. If you've ever thought your business needed AI but had no clue where to start, watch this.   Chapters: 0:00 Cold Open 0:30 Welcome to Lazy Leverage 2:33 Brought to You by Sagan Passport 3:53 50+ AI Agents and Counting 6:15 From SaaS to SMB Land 9:55 The LEGO Brick Strategy 15:50 Why $20K Scoping Sessions Are Dead 17:50 One Brick at a Time 20:30 Agents vs SaaS: The Real Difference 25:35 The Inverted Onboarding Insight 27:05 Go-To-Market Lessons SMBs Are Missing 30:25 Tactical Plays: Photo Aging & License Numbers 33:10 Point AI at the Right Constraint 35:10 The Weekend Vibe Coding Gap 38:55 Closing Thoughts   Follow Jon: https://x.com/MatznerJon | https://jonmatzner.com/ Follow Zaki: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zakimahomed/   🌎 Brought to you by Sagan Passport: https://saganpassport.com Schedule a free consulting session: https://saganpassport.com/free-consultation   Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LazyLeverageofficial Follow Lazy Leverage on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/763FBQuzXqTqJ3mb837WbW

Jon sits down with Zaki Mahomed, Sagan's President of AI, to expose the LEGO brick strategy behind 50+ AI agent deployments. Why most AI projects die before they launch, the $500 agent that beats $25,000 SaaS contracts, and the brutal gap between weekend vibe coding and actually shipping AI inside your real business. If you've ever thought your business needed AI but had no clue where to start, watch this.   Chapters: 0:00 Cold Open 0:30 Welcome to Lazy Leverage 2:33 Brought to You by Sagan Passport 3:53 50+ AI Agents and Counting 6:15 From SaaS to SMB Land 9:55 The LEGO Brick Strategy 15:50 Why $20K Scoping Sessions Are Dead 17:50 One Brick at a Time 20:30 Agents vs SaaS: The Real Difference 25:35 The Inverted Onboarding Insight 27:05 Go-To-Market Lessons SMBs Are Missing 30:25 Tactical Plays: Photo Aging & License Numbers 33:10 Point AI at the Right Constraint 35:10 The Weekend Vibe Coding Gap 38:55 Closing Thoughts   Follow Jon: https://x.com/MatznerJon | https://jonmatzner.com/ Follow Zaki: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zakimahomed/   🌎 Brought to you by Sagan Passport: https://saganpassport.com Schedule a free consulting session: https://saganpassport.com/free-consultation   Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LazyLeverageofficial Follow Lazy Leverage on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/763FBQuzXqTqJ3mb837WbW

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