Welcome to the fantasy foot ballers podcast with your host in the Holloway Jason Moore and Mike Wright Welcome in Monday episode of the fantasy footballers. I think the hardest part of The Monday show is not talking all about the games before we hit report Yeah, cuz we're all you know We were together for the majority of the day watching the games within you have the evening games And you then you get the whole like stat avalanche that comes through the weekend on on social media And then you get in here and you know, Alan and the judge we start talking about our leagues And it's like hit record hit record because so much happened this weekend You don't want to waste all the good stuff no no and we all have so many different thoughts about what's transpired with three weeks in We got two Monday night football games still to be played We had some absolute madness over the weekend. We have to react to today's the studs and Dutch show We've got enough all news injury news to talk about we also have Monday, Monday, and I was telling Jason this morning on average For the first two weeks of the season. I look through the puns 80 90% negative puns Maybe a few people happy content this week.
It was all flipped Yeah, this week it was 70% positive this week was drunk I mean this was insane usually, you know our footy awards at the end of the year which stay tuned It makes sure you're there for that episode We have like the best fantasy performance of the year and over the course of the year we have like just four or five Monstress fantasy finishes this week. We had like ten monsters. It was insane the best fantasy performance May have been on everybody's bench. Yeah, we'll get the best but sing like one of the best games of the year Was just chilling on the waiver wire or on people benches The numbers I saw was about point six percent of people played that player and we'll talk about him shortly because there is a lot to talk about With mr.
H. But like I said, there's a lot going on followers on social media At the FF ballers over on X Instagram comm slash fantasy footballers and the community has joined the foot calm I want to give a quick shout out genuinely The DFS past this week Matthew Betts and Kyle the Borgogan in the community there. It's been a really good year I think that the team takes the right approach over there with the DFS past and We had more success this weekend if you don't know what that is that is our exclusive season long resource And it's really turned into you know, there are tools. There's the DFS DFS optimizer, which is brand-new this year It's awesome But then there is the like discord community you get access to which is becoming more and more invaluable to reacting to news and to talking about DFS plays and it's just a lot of fun and we charge one price for the year, which we should probably rethink yeah We really I'm working on it guys and for the first time ever if we want you to go experience that it's normally $50 for the year There is a code you can put in if you want to grab it right now and it goes through the playoffs that code is winner 23 Well the code doesn't go through the playoffs the code is limited time.
Yes DFS pass goes through the playoffs There we go and if you're confused like Mike But winner 23 is the code at DFS pass.com just be a part of that Give it a try let us know what you think and the the props over there in the DFS pass are currently running at 69% for the season Which is super nice. You may have some probably unceasing That's I mean we went you know seven three in this week just ridiculous so congrats to the team over there for the hard work really love what they're doing and Let's get into the reactions in the most sophisticated manner possible It would be ridiculous not to start with the 70 point brigade to infinity and beyond oh Devon my bench a chain Yeah, also he is divine a chain regime most of the TDs yes and the most popular submission of course regime must start Oh, who's that is that when it's Walker what there? Well, he's a winner Adam feeling yoga. Yes.
He is It's me Adam. It's Adam feeling that's right. That's a better voice. How about living La Porte Loca Alexander the great Mike.
Oh, yeah, he didn't all in yes very simple and there were some bad like a Darity Henry Priest stall bust Edwards Naughts and followed up by Justin get off the field boy Justin shield your eyes It's bad to watch yeah, I mean there are some you know we're three weeks in uh-huh three weeks is that's what we call a sample size Right that's enough time three week sample size what we call that that's a three weeks is what it takes to become on fire, right? Yes, damn rules here NBA jam rolls so we've we've got some Decisions to be made I know in the aforementioned Justin field situation I know that I'll born in and others with Justin fields are making drop decisions now Oh, yeah, so that's that'll be uh hey it was week six last year So if you're holding on the fields, you just got a couple more weeks when the turnaround happened and he went nuclear the second half Yeah, yeah, I mean it just feels really really interesting because he wasn't good last year as a quarterback But obviously he was you know a league winner for some but brought people to the playoffs for fantasy purposes was great started the years Just terrible this year looks worse than he did last year to me. Yeah, which is really disappointing with DJ Moore in tow the offense and the play calling looks as bad as his Ability to let go of the football on time and in rhythm everything looks like a calamity That being said, you know Mike you were bringing up you believe this chief's defense is fully legitimate super for real They've shut down everyone they didn't give up anything to other good options Fields is someone that will be hitting waiver wires this week for sure in some week leagues if he hits a waiver wire in my league There is no chance. I mean would I would pick him up?
I would not be playing him But I would pick him up absolutely to stache because if I'm picking him up I feel confident I have a starting option and I can just find out what's gonna happen for Justin Field over the next couple weeks which Landmine country it certainly because I don't think you play him if you pick him up Which means he has an explosive game on your bench at some point and then you put him back in there And I know I know the floor was this low Mike what if I told you next week you Yeah, I know I know but I'm not doing it anymore because I predicted a bounce back in week two and I predicted bounce back in week three So I am now going to learn from sudden mistakes any quarterback and have a monster game. Mm-hmm That happens a lot just ask Daniel Jones. Yeah, so I that's a disappointing. We'll get there We'll get there the duds.
I guess we need to talk about some of this injury news news and notes from around the league presented my USA a insurance Well, let's start with the headline that just formally broke Mike Williams confirmed for his ACL out for the season That stinks he was having a big game. He had a 13 target week the week before it seemed like things were starting to click He finished has the wide receiver eight this week at a monster touchdown from Keenan Allen Yeah, you said to find the right quarterback to get in the ball, but devastating news I mean at this point We've gone through the injury to us and Echler now in this office And they didn't manage to get the W in spite of themselves to some degree they tried to not they did brain It's daily what I think you're starting to see a man turn inside out in his own brain But Mike Williams out for the year we had Echler go down and look like Josh Kelly which look should have been in the puns with another Josh Melly They've but the backup didn't come through is my point in Los Angeles because the offense changed fundamentally So you look at this and it'd be easy to quickly react and you probably should be picking up a quick and Johnson to see what happens Joshua Palmer's probably the under the radar pickup that people aren't gonna pay attention to yeah But it might be hard to expect those guys to come in and put up what my points was to yeah I think your point is is important that what this team did when they lost Echler was not keep the same system They said okay, our backup running back isn't that good? They went from in neutral passing situations when Echler was there they were 30th because they were running the ball very successfully And when Echler has been gone they are first in pass right over expectations So this is a team that changed because of their personnel they lose Mike Williams They're going to change because of their personnel not just say Quinn Johnson you're the new Mike Williams now He will get an opportunity to say hey, I can be the next Mike Williams, but he's got to prove that Yeah, and I mean I'd be curious quick reaction on who you would pick up because to me like Josh Palmer had a good game He was four four four sixty six and a touchdown comes down to what does my team need if I'm looking at my I have a two flex league and my second flex has not been what I need it to be I'm going Josh Palmer if my starting roster is legit locked in for the next couple weeks Then I'm gonna go with Johnston just super the move Yeah, hope pick him up and hope that he overtakes Palmer over the second Yeah, Palmer what we know about Palmer is he can go out there and have a decent game But he's not that dude we've seen that with so many of these players over the last couple years the van Jefferson's the KJ Osborne's They can go out there and be a successful wide receiver three But when given the opportunity to really show that there's something special it just it's just not that guy And I don't think Palmer's that guy and I'd love to sit here and recommend Gerald Everett, but unfortunately it's a shared Partation because the you have par ham burglar. Yeah, stealing.
Yeah, that's a Kyle special Oh give him a shout out this first good one Proud of you Kyle love you Kyle the other news this weekend Jamal Williams went on the IR with the hamstring and so Kendra Miller Tony Jones take some Hill and all your other friends Well, I'll come here. Yeah, come here is back now. Deon Jackson was released waft Trace Ermin moved up to the active roster knowing I mean it doesn't matter because there's just one workhorse in the building I can't wait I can't wait to tell everyone how great Zach Moss is how well He's been playing and how I have completely I don't want you to exactly Where you at oh, he's great guys, and he's going to be oh now. He's trying to reverse That monster disaster.
He has looked really good. That's not even a joke. He has made that catch receptions. Yeah, that touchdown catch was special There were plans.
I don't know if it's the bit still where he was I can't tell there were plays where he should have been tackled Four yards behind the line of scrimmage. He got to four positive yards He has looked really good and I was so super wrong about him being an average player. Okay. All right going forward You know, I'm happy I just gonna eat those words.
Yeah, so yeah 9-11 swap though in your favor No, my favorite part of the weekend was that was yelling Zach Moss's name and yelling Adam feelings Those are the only two things I truly enjoyed this week if you're gonna bring up the trade Andy the 9-11 swap where I Traded you Zach Moss. It was really to pick up to Von Hain, which I'm happy to have right now How many points do you score you this week 50? Okay, thank you. Yeah, but in the event of the tie right oh no Jason's got a locked up their car AC joint sprain He's gonna miss some time.
You're gonna see James Winston a quarterback got that word concussion Yeah, he was cooking too. Hey, what do you know Rashad Bateman exited the game of the ninja? Yeah, so There you go. This guy's body does not want to play Zach Wilson is going to remain the team starter the New York Jets It's what are they doing the Jets and Bears fans?
I'm sorry things are so bad for you that you in this building We have a die hard to the grave lifetime packer fan in Al Borland who literally feels bad for you It's true. I was just telling you that's just telling me that which I don't think they want to hear that That's so patronizing for the bear fight, but this was a good weekend for the bears Why do you think the Cardinals won? Both of those picks are you know maintained by the Arizona Cardinals and so I know we've got a we've got a close friend Chris who Is a die hard bears fan and we're just like we're rooting against each other, but in the opposite of normal It's like we're saying go bears. I think go lose.
Yeah. No much. He's gonna lose It's a good is a good and I told you guys I've completely changed on the Arizona Cardinals approach because I realized this week And maybe through the first two weeks. I'm not rooting for them I don't okay.
I don't mind if Houston loses, but they're not gonna get the number one pick either C. J. Strauss legit, but it would be silly to root for it for either of those teams right now because they're not that team Both of those teams are much better than the number one pick in my opinion Houston ended up dominating Jacksonville yet again I mean that's a whole nother discussion on what you do with Jacksonville's offensive pieces, but Arizona's Unfortunately for you guys yes, thank you good competitive football team They were on the cost of winning the first two weeks they dominated Dallas this past weekend and Joshua Dobbs If you were the quarterback of the New York football Jets, you'd be three now I mean I think the Jets would be three you know if they had Josh Dobbs a quarterback There are so many better options in Zach Wilson Wait two weeks and trade for Josh with Dobbs Jets fans. Yeah with Kyler potentially coming back Yeah, come back He's he's post the timeline now where he would be able to be back in within the normal timeline from the injury reco correct And then he has one week left of in eligibility being on the pop can I try to persuade you to root for the Cardinals?
There's a season I can make the case for you if Kyler comes back week five if he's back immediately following his minimum stay on the pup Then I'll read okay Mike you're not on that side. I just I don't want mediocrity forever Okay, yeah, that makes sense to me a swim team is that's a I think a six-win team is that's the worst I think if you go if you go backwards with you got a new GM new head coach And then you go backwards and you lose all your games That's worse for the team even if you get the number one pick because you know What's the net gain of the four free agents you pick up because you built a culture and you start winning football games? It's really hard to bring people in and get them on board Especially in Arizona where why did we get ranked 30 second and like treating your players and making them buy their cafeteria food? Like you have to change the culture and I'd rather have the four free agents at this point because they're playing hard for Gannon Whenever I hear the like that we make players pay for their cafeteria food I'd say I believe it sounds like some joke that you know, it's they eat Jason football players eat so much food You know how much money they make they can afford to pay for their cafeteria food from us the Arizona Cardinals This is not a cardinal show.
Well, I just I have switched I was excited and it's fun to root for your team That's fair. It was funny yesterday Joe Burrow expected to be a game time decision tonight. I think he's playing Yeah, I mean it seems like it they say that he is campaigning to start They also said that this morning and is you know warm-ups things were good. He's progressing in the right direction There was also a report that could put him on the IR so hold your breath.
He's a gamer I think he's gonna be out there and I think you know, this is make a break season time since an ad he is not Competing in that division with how Pittsburgh's playing Ravens lost for the Bengals. Yeah. Yeah, you're down to I believe after tonight just three teams will be three now in the entire NFL So it's been pretty wide open and anybody seems to be able to win any given week All right, that was a news and notes presented by us a insurance learn more at usa a comm slash insurance This week's fantasy stud muffins Well, there were a lot of them and it's fun to talk about players delivering the goods. Yeah, baby Justin Herbert quarterback one on the season is that true?
That is true Really? Yeah, it is really really true one and season and since yeah does because you scored the most fancy points. I don't believe that This morning is true. Yeah, I mean obviously we got quarterbacks.
I haven't played this evening, but those would be Baker Stafford Yeah, he's gonna hurt us the number one the only one that would have had a chance of being at the Richardson and he's obviously He's ahead of to correct Interesting where through three weeks. Yeah, we're three weeks. All right. I'm seeing a still curcousals Yeah, that doesn't it definitely has to be cousins.
He's looking in six pointer four point. Oh Four point I got Jason's got herbert number one. Okay, so four point lee herbert's in the number one I see what are the top three then is it her Justin Herbert Kirk cousins to in four point so Herbert was 40 for 47 Four hundred and five yards. It's the first 400 game 400 yard game of his career and he was vultured on a ball touch to Mike Williams To a tongue of I law at three out three hundred nine and four.
He was 23 of 26 He went 16 for 16 in the first half and they didn't have Jalen wattle and scored 70 half of his touchdown passes were right-handed To a plays left-handed at the quarterback position. That's an interesting back We're both of his shelf as they were they were identical plays. You want to talk about embarrassing Broncos fans I'm sorry But the exact same play in the same formation a lot was a lot of you know bad reviews were given to the Bears office last week for running The same screen from the same formation twice and that's why it was intercepted the dolphins were like you guys can't stop Let's do anything. I don't want to show you any new plays Hey, just do that one to score a touchdown last time do that again and they did it and it's what it touched down again Yeah, that that game I mean just broadly reacting to that Miami game you ever seen anything like it was so fun It was a blast.
I've never seen anything like it. I turned to Mike. It was I don't know I think we were starting the fourth quarter. I was like I don't think I've ever seen something like this because that's because you haven't I Mean I wasn't alive in 1966 the last time someone put up 70 points So I will then ask the question coming from the the foot clan and one who was pulverized by this matchup Was it fun because you were not facing Rahimoszart in any leagues?
That was helpful because I was I was was and it was not fun It was in fact super frustrating that they kept turning the ball over in positive area for the dolphins and then couldn't stop Rahimoszart Rahimoszart had four touchdowns and he did not have he did not stand alone as the only one with four touchdowns H chain had four as well absurd on your bench and you really don't you really thought about that decision that one was difficult because most people I would never blame anyone for not having them in their lineup He hasn't done anything yet and hopefully you have better options the morning of I messaged my co-manager and said hey I want to put him on a chain in over Algier talk me off of this I said I think I'm the only person that would actually start him so he was very persuasive then no he responded and said I'm actually okay with that I can see the path and then I left him there and you chicken down I mean I can quote and quote Jason. I mean I've got the I got the receipts over here He said the message to I mean I said who are you playing a running back said I have to play to a valgier a chain I'm in Miller. I said oh I didn't see Kendra Miller was on your I ours to ask the way He says I can make a case for any of them seems silly to bench Algier, but I expect a putrid game Mm-hmm, and I got it so that's cool But the nice thing is you know sometimes you make a decision doesn't affect your actual outcome No, this one of course did because he scored 50 points. I lost them one but whatever we move on It's still good like this is always one of those things as a fantasy manager You watch it down your bench go off and it's a real bit of sweet thing because you obviously want those points You want to win, but it's always a good thing You can't root against your guys on the bench as much as you want to be as much as you were as you were actively Dispising every snap he took I was reacting to I was cut to the core But I was also happy I was thrilled because the more that he proves himself the more opportunity He'll get here's the real challenge 54 points or 50 points whatever was in your league format Devan H obviously the Broncos are going to be the worst team against running back The rest of the season no matter what they do at this point.
They were terrible going into the game They were terrible in the game. They asked Joe stuff is training on Twitter to be fired the team as a disaster They give up 90 fantasy points running down Yeah, I mean they gave up eight touchdowns running backs in a game so That game the nuclear explosion the Miami offense was already number one in football They're gonna be the number one in football for a long time Here's what I'm saying and we're into the running backs already because we have some you know my homes cousins start of the week Jordan Love big games into the running backs most are in ancient they travel to a buffalo team next week that just put up 28 fantasy points that had nine sacks that had four interceptions that made Sam Hall look like a pop Warner quarterback mm-hmm and The question is gonna be do you just play a chain as a reward for the bench? performance of the year or Is this a this is a higher stakes closer game? I want to be there.
I want to know what I mean your team is different your team has no running back Yeah, my team a chain will be out there But do you think that that's gonna be the recommendation this week gentlemen? I think that you should put a chain in your lineup. I was pro a chain the whole offseason. I'm gonna put a wrinkle in this Okay, okay, so on ocman Monday or whatever Wednesday's practice.
He's back He's practicing in full well certainly I would if if ocman is back and active for the game No, the case that I was about to make is that if you've got just most or an a chain I don't think they want to give either player, you know, too much of a workload They will split evenly and my goodness. You can't have two faster Options out there and when you've got a guy if he's gonna touch the ball Let's say 12 times he gets 12 carries against the bills You only need one sliver of an opportunity for a breakaway touchdown run We saw a bunch obviously against a much easier defense and And Sean McDermott has taken over play calling on defense and their defenses looked excellent since that's happened So I certainly am not expecting a monster big blow up game I won't start him over everyone but assuming that it's most or an a chain as the only two active running backs that that you Presume are gonna get work Then yeah, I think both of those players need to be started this offense offense has not been able to be stopped They have creative play calling they get guys open in space. They've got a good run scheme They're you gotta stay in the flame. I certainly think that's the right call for this week It will be something to watch when you get ocmed back and and Jeff Wilson back in week four and then a chains performing And then most it is running back one on the season.
I think the what most of it. Yes most of the RB one I believe so. Yes, so I mean what what a It's not gonna be 70 points a week is all I'm saying No, but I do think you everything you said was accurate if you look last week the bills defense was incredible absolutely shut down the Manders, but Brian Robinson was he was having a fine game against him He was 10 for 70 on the ground They just had to pass the ball and couldn't pass the ball to Manders They could only pass the ball to bills. All right quick break back with some more running back studs Kenneth Walker the third 18 for 97 two more touchdowns three targets Three for 59 through the air.
He's the running back three on the season and he might Just get Mike right a victory. He saved me at least from the shame. That's correct. I wasn't I was in a dark place We had three very high-performing drafting squads and I ended up at the bottom It's not me this week.
I know I know I know it did you get first or I did first. Okay. It was barely milk Kenneth Walker almost got you there Kenneth Walker is what got me the shame because we were going into I was going into the afternoon games with the Cardinals D which performed quite well and Mike had kind of the Walker and I had like a 20-point lead or 27-point lead But Kenneth Walker said I care not of your lead. I'm gonna score two more touchdowns and he's having a great season Zachary Moss 30 carries 1 22 three targets in a touchdown.
He has everything to the offense. They play the Rams Tennessee and Jacksonville He's gonna be so good guys Now you have to mean it Jason for you to reverse the curse Christian McCaffery big week James Connor. He's so good told you I needed more from a calf You know that the Cardinals ran for more rushing yards in the first half than against Allison They had given up in a first half of football since 1992 They ran for over 180 yards in the first half James Connor's 14 for 98 and a touchdown. He is the RB7 It's nice to see him performing and the team is better than like the offseason narrative means nothing once the season starts for any of these teams Yes, Justin Fields Jonathan Gannon is a comical cringy Character yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm a cringy character the triple C if you know as we call it seems like it seems like it might be a good Coach maybe still a little early, but the players are playing hard for him They have no boot of Baker.
They have no personnel in offense. They're back a quarterback and James Connor's getting it done drum forward looks good ish Ish you can't run against Tennessee? So let's go and he couldn't 18 yards on 10 carries so he couldn't get to two yards of carry He had to touch them. Yeah, did you trade high on that with hunts snap share likely to increase over time and Baltimore by week San Francisco seems Like a bad run like I would probably trade drum for interesting.
Yeah, I think you can make the case for it with Baltimore Which Baltimore's defense right now? I mean obviously Zack Moss play good. We were expecting Baltimore to be better They were trash with injuries. They came out and had so many starters out for that game lost that game But yeah, Baltimore by weeks San Francisco if you think you can get something good Yeah, I would capitalize despite being destroyed by Houston Travis, he ended up a good game Mike start of the week four for 53 the air Which was nice this ain't even on the ground and shout out to Alexander maybe Alexander Madison had the best worst best game that I've seen in a while 24 93 seven targets.
We made best worst. Well, you mean why you think I mean a bunch of drops and 22 fumbles that didn't count Yeah, you were watching the game screaming at the screen Madison had more fumbles that didn't count as fumbles that I've ever seen on life He was expertly timing his fumbles this way. I'm called that best worst best that's fair and also which also includes a Catastrophic play by a Kirk cousins where Madison was wide open for a drag route touchdown guys I'm gonna get into get in tackle open But Madison had a nice game with the does that make it messier for you guys of being kind of on the camaker side? Nope, it doesn't make it easier to trade Madison sure Yeah, I mean I still think this is gonna come in and but a nice game 24 93 is a good game and be a split What it makes it harder on is deciding to bench Madison this coming week because you know Whenever someone has a good game if camaker's is active next game I think the right thing to do is to just put Alexander Madison on your bench, but it's hard to do after Flexible.
Yeah, I bet Hey Keenan here's 20 targets Keenan Allen 20 targets 18 for 215 didn't score through the air guys But it's a for 250 18 for 215 that is good enough check out be done now Let's throw a 49-yard touchdown. He did everything. He is the only player in NFL history with three games of 15 plus receptions plays the Raiders We'll call it defense and then the bye week losing Mike Williams. Yeah, I mean Keenan Allen The only person that can stop Keenan Allen is Keenan Allen himself.
Yeah, if he gets injured Otherwise he is going to be the steel of the draft We saw this last year I mean we saw it at that when he came back from injury He was the wide receiver four in fantasy football the entirety of the second half of last season and all he's done is pick up right there 20 targets I mean this is this is some pukin a coup of stuff that he's doing he is the number one he was the number one wide receiver last week against Tennessee He is the number one wide receiver this week against Minnesota and he caught 26 passes in two weeks on 30 targets and it's probably not changing because handing the ball out to Josh Kelly's not gonna work No, and no Mike Williams I mean Keenan Allen's just going to get hyper targeted Yeah, enjoy the ride in half point scoring right now Keenan Allen is the third highest player he has scored more fantasy points than quarterbacks I mean he's just in what format happy PR and in full PPR hide your children true man. Yeah, I haven't even looked there I mean full PPR that is that is the number one highest score above everyone at all positions through three weeks Wow, okay Congratulations if you have Keenan Allen right now they do have an early bi-week and then you get Which we did have a ominous quote from the coaching staff talking about Austin Echler They said well how's that we're doing and essentially quote was something about we'll see how he's doing over the next few weeks Yeah, which is I don't like that word rest this week and then has a bi-week the next week It makes it so much more likely that they don't push him out The only reason to push him out now is if Mike Williams is gone and you feel like you need you know your playmakers But they're playing the Raiders like yeah, so if again pay attention to the schedule We got a game this week and then but then they're on the bi-week so resting Echler for the rest for that week It makes a lot of sense. I think if you have no Echler and you have Mike No Mike Williams next week you play seven guys on Keenan Allen and you use you use the other four for the rest of the team You know this is this is a really funny week for the no one can guard them even if they try story Mm-hmm because we talked about that like time you kill had on that touchdown like you don't have Jana model and Tyree kill who had had had I don't know 15 yards between him and the nearest defender on the touchdown pass He went 9 for 157 and then you had Devontae Adams right and Devontae Adams is the entire offense for Las Vegas And he had 20 targets and he was 13 for 172 and you can't stop him and Justin Jefferson Like you should probably guard him and you can't stop him He has the most yards through three weeks in history the NFL and then Keena now You know where the ball was going when it was crunch time you can't stop him So this is what Mike's been saying for nine years if you got a superstar just target him every single play it works What happens the rules are conducive for that and you can always get a Penalty on those targets to your star receiver as well because they're the best at drawing them It also is it is this a testament to the power of the wide receiver position in fantasy because you know Devontae Adams right the doubts Oh Jimmy G right they didn't play good well. They didn't play well Superman doesn't play good.
He does play good Whatever man the font day Adams Is not he's too good to be stopped by a quarterback or a defense I was as we were watching the game last night. I like I think it was like of course like anyone that doubted him this year Because well, he's a little old. He's got a downgraded quarterback. It's like we just did this He was a little old you got a downgraded quarterback was dominant He won't be stopped and to speak to Justin Jefferson you mentioned his yardage through three weeks most of all time He is on pace for 2,600 receiving yards And maybe this is the year he goes over 2000 because they can't run the football they don't want to yeah And or win they don't want to win either But those are big performances Adam feeling 14 targets 11 for 145 and 1 now do you believe any dollar was an upgrade Jason?
Yeah Catchable targets all game. He's also getting open a ton. I mean you watch him He's still getting open all over the field 11 for 145 and 1 you can't doubt it He's the wide receiver 7 so far on the season. I think this is I still think it's just the peak probably this is the peak except I will say this Minnesota this week.
Oh, that's good Detroit the next week, okay, and you're gonna have to keep throwing the ball against Miami after that so I don't know he's going to have to eight to ten targets a week It does seem that rookie Jonathan Mingo left with a concussion So he's probably in a situation where he won't even be on the field DJ chart could be a viable flex plain good. He was 4 4 86 and look good and a touchdown Tanked out 5 for 145 minutes. Oh, yeah, hope you pick them up Hope we hope we talked high enough about him on the waiver show. I know Mike you hungry for more you can't tell Yeah, yeah, we talked about on that segment as well his college stats He is very open D-bo and Marty Cooper Jason started the week 7 for 116 Jason.
You want to go off on that whistle? I was like what whistle there was if you did not see this game. There was one of the most egregious wild wacky Refving mishaps that I've ever seen like I was watching the game and we've got we've got nine TVs going and so there was no audio You didn't know what was happening from sound but here's what happened There was this pass down the sideline and Marty Cooper somehow catches it looks like an impossible catch He gets it his defender basically falls down. He's wide open on the sideline.
He starts running a safety comes over He jukes him. He's going he's going up the sideline. He's gonna run for a touchdown. He stops running.
He starts jogging He stops. He looks back. He's confused the defender looks around like what's going on and then he's like do it should I keep running? So he runs to the end zone and scores but the play was over and the play was over because near the sideline when the defender fell down they The ref who was right there blew the whistle now.
I understand you get things wrong, but he was a yard away from the sideline I mean, okay a foot and a half. This was not like a oh, I can see green This is like he did not approach the boundary his foot was nowhere near it and you really embarrassing you blew the play dead So you can't review it you can't go back on it. Thankfully He got another touchdown later, but he should have had an even bigger game than his 7 for 116 one It felt like the ref had decided that he's like oh no Cooper's gonna end up out of bounds here So he's just was already ready for that But it was not even close Sam LaPorta 11 targets 8 for 84 and a touchdown the most receptions in the first three games for a tight end in History and the number two tight end in fantasy right now is Sam LaPorta. I loved I think all of us love this collegiate tape He comes from tight end university.
You know, this is this is sticky He's just too out there on the field and then you know It's funny because the whole rookie sensation tight end of like oh don't get Katie's gonna come in the offense needs them I don't think enough was really credited to Dawson Knox a good tight end who keeps getting targets keeps getting in zone targets Like he's splitting but LaPorta's not LaPorta is also an offensive put up 30 points on you know the regular and he is it He's out there, you know 80 plus percent of snaps running a ton of routes. You got to stay in the flames with him It's funny seeing the LaPorta against like Musgrave in Green Bay because if Musgrave had More accurate targets. He would be right here with LaPorta. I think we've seen three or four bomb wide open bomb Yeah, just like looking like Gronk just a just a fly up the middle of the field.
No one's around him and then whoops He's gonna have some games for sure. Yes He will or the targets are what make him a consistent play right now It was funny because the this performance happened in our dynasty league the LaPorta and Hawkins and manager instantly put Hawkins in on the block It was like you made the decision that LaPorta was the future Kelsey scored Pat Fryer me got into the end zone. That was nice to see George Kettle the big game. Well, let's yeah.
Yeah, mr. Fryer me He's got a 41 receiving arts which was what was more than more than five. Yeah, he now needs he needs eight hands nine hands Hooped in his big boy pants Well, we do have to talk about the duds because there are decisions to be made gentlemen Mm-hmm and Justin Fields we talked about him earlier. It was abysmal 11 for 22 for 99 yards 11 for 47 You know when you talk about what happened last year like I get it because the situation is there where you went from bad to good So we had that happen.
I think teams know how to defend Justin Fields running the football now I think that's been pretty evident through three weeks And so now you want to make Justin feel the passer and he's he's failing the test So you're going to have the Denver matchup Denver's been a really bad defense somebody else to win that game by the way Denver Chicago someone's coming out with a victory home. I think it's Chicago. Yes, so is that change? Oh, no, I was just I was just curious.
I mean it was those two teams man They are looking cute for he has the this is a shout out to Courtney Cronin who tweeted this to highlight the performance as a quarterback So it's a start of 2021 Justin Fields has the most starts nine with a qbr under 10 from the pocket He posted a career low 1.5 qbr from inside the pocket against Kansas City This is not gonna work if we are convinced that Zach Wilson's not gonna work which it's not Justin Fields and Zach Wilson that yeah I mean, I'm not joking when I say mr. Bisky should be the starting quarterback for the Bears Justin Fields I think we've seen enough to know Justin Fields is not gonna work for sure He's not gonna work for the Bears. He's not gonna work as an NFL quarterback He won't be if you're in a dynasty league and you've got fields I think you wait for a I think you wait for a big game or two because he'll have him and when he has a big game people will be back in And I think you trade him because long term. I don't think he's the quarterback of the Bears the Bears have Their pick the Bears have the Carolina pick.
Yeah, so they've got multiple options in a draft class with top tier quarterbacks So it feels gets replaced this offseason He's probably a future career backup that maybe he'll have a few more starts, but for dynasty purposes I think he's he's an expiring asset quickly. He's not gonna work for fantasy purposes and redraft I'm still he you know Zach Wilson sucks Zach Wilson doesn't have a superpower being able to run for a yards and two touchdowns on the ground at any point I'm looking at the I'm looking at those the quarterbacks and If you've been through the Justin Fields experience through three weeks I'm looking at them list the quarterbacks other than Zach Wilson and you're a starting quarterback in the NFL I'm not sure that you're not playing that player over Justin Fields next week based on based on the experience You've had putting him in your lineup because your probably fair may feel I think you're playing Baker What about Desmond Ritter? No, we got no we got it So Zach Wilson. No, no, let's do it Zach Wilson Desmond Ritter if Andy Dalton was playing quarterback next week over Bryce Young I'm playing him over Justin feel see that I would absolutely not be doing that I still think that the match up against the Chiefs was a bad one and that his rushing for fantasy purposes can be great I'm I realize how it how it feels and I'm certainly going to be putting in you know all other decent options You know if you're telling me that you've got a you know a Jared Gough or you know Just on Watson guys who have struggled a lot of playing in hell either not play field or ten I'm sorry field trying to find the list as like we still have what four quarterbacks to go But as of now he's the quarterback 22 so there were there's a handful of worst ones not a lot No, but well and it's 22 on the year you're saying no no no last this as of this week right now the four tonight We'll pass that yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying so there's still some no No, Jason's right in the respect that if you there are players that you could play that do not have Justin feel Sealing clearly, but I'm worried about that little Thing in the brains of fantasy managers where it's like this could be the week They're been a handful of players like that We were you just keep waiting anyway because you've seen the power and the big weeks maybe Justin fields will figure it out It is it is it is important to be able to move on it is 100% important for any fantasy assets Not just I drafted him high.
I love them. I thought he was gonna be great You've got to be able to move on and so we need to make sure you have the freedom to say yeah I am gonna start someone else he's probably gonna have a good game if he's starting Among the next four there's probably gonna be one Minnesota Las Vegas Denver Those three are all home. I mean that's that's the schedule you want so one of those is gonna be good for sure Mm-hmm tough tough tough. He's not yeah, that I mean it's really really hard.
Yeah, I mean Kansas City's a tough matchup. Yes, but 202 starting to be your dream Trevor Lawrence what's going on? He's another really difficult one to figure out He had a really bad matchup against Kansas City and we know that Houston has been a bad matchup as well But usually it's because you're up so much you don't have to throw Houston You should just beat the snuff of the Jaguars just dominated them turn them over several times and You know Justin Lawrence needed to throw the ball and he didn't do well. You called Trevor Lawrence discount No, no, no, or I'm sorry you called that press got discount travel.
Yeah, it was I called Trevor Lawrence expensive deck So that means that Kenny Pickett is discount deck Based on that being in the duds this week as well very disappointing overall for the whole Cowboys But for deck so that was 25 for 42 49 and one Tough looking at that matchup and if he can't he's not guaranteeing that one I you know New England San Francisco the next two weeks that is is a waiver fodder. Yeah potentially Yeah, I mean would you rather start Dak Prescott against the New England Patriots or Justin Fields against the Denver Broncos? I know it's a really really hard question because there's that and I would go fields I think the answer is probably look to your winners for a better option than boat I got a tweet going back to Trevor Lawrence for the show James Co He tweeted this out Calvin Ridley posted 92 yards in the first week first half of week one He has 81 yards combined in the 10 quarters following yeah, and they were missing their top corner Houston was super disappointed And Ridley went down banged up a couple times. This is a really disappointing performances from Jacksonville's office.
Yeah, and Trevor Lawrence not taking the step forward I think we got a little bit Too hopeful. Well, I know I just just used to it I mean like Jalen hurts that was the pick last year to take this up for he did it Right like we've had these quarterbacks take these monumental steps into super startup and we're like man Justin Fields Trevor Lawrence They're set up. This is gotta be give him Calam really give me J more They were already pretty good for fantasy. Let's give him superstar wide receivers They start kind of unwind that narrative that's worked so well, you know you give niggas to Josh Allen now worked out Yeah, no, you're a hundred percent right and now it's a matter of deciding of okay Will you look back at the end of the season and say yeah?
They just start yeah, it's exactly yeah This is the time of year where you don't want you want to make conclusions when they're actionable for your fantasy league But you also need to stay water and be willing to I mean that's probably I think the best Piece of advice for guys like this guys that you see the path and still could absolutely for fantasy purposes be great You just bench them you keep them you don't drop them you pick them up off of waivers if they're out there Yeah, but you don't play them you wait and see yeah running back duds big storyline. Yeah, Derek Henry. Oh, oh 11 for 20 Oh, he played 17 snaps and I can I hit the button? Yeah, please?
Oh I was it was funny last week. I was worried about him you know, I brought up the fact that he was actually splitting carries and Man this last week was terrible you went into halftime with a total of negative seven rushing yards. Oh, oh Oh, yeah, it's it's not good. He had no targets.
He had 11 carries for 20 total yards He hurt well, he was on the yeah, it was on the end report for the toast last rest. Oh, that's right So I don't know I mean I don't understand the recipe for them having any success in in all of history with their Kennedy's been a million carries which they did in week two against the Chargers 25 carries So what do you do is this a full like this is not a buy this is not a sale? This is I don't know I I Believe if I had good yeah, it's a tough. It's a tough defensive front if I am Henry.
I am holding I'm just gonna stay the course, but Re-adjusting how I'm looking at Derek Henry. It's it's no longer. Yes weekend week out this guy should be top 10 top 15 at the worst No, it's game scripts Like they have they have another option now. They have haje spears They they've never had a true running back who can come in and replace their Henry and they have a guy who has a three down skill set Who they are using when they need to catch up so it's we know that when you're like the grinder the two down one down two Russia you have ebbs and flows because of game script, but Henry has been able to Kind of buck that trend but he's I think he's right back into that now.
It's it's really really difficult He's just he's like a he's an RB to but running back stink for fantasy in general I think that if you have Derek Henry and I think you need to shop him for a premium and hope someone is paying and saying Hey, man, I can get Derek freakin Henry for my team because he had a bad game I'm gonna go try to get What we've said about their Henry for the last couple of years is really what happens with these elder statement running backs is usually when it's over It's over you don't see them take a season where it's like he was like 85% of himself on his way towards retirement Usually things go badly for their final season and they end up really really disappointing and so this is this is like to me a Marker that says this could be the beginning of the end They actually have haje spears there. He's you know It's hot j spears out snap them by 10 this last week If there's the chance that I can get a lot for him not not I'm not saying you got to put him off a bridge But I would be shopping there can't really see if I can capitalize on him and have someone else hold the bags It looks like it looks like winter coming might be full of poop and that's the story Finishing a sense that the end of the sentence was might be full of poop But then I asked him whether winter was coming and he would not allow the end of the sins to not be completed I think that's the story. You got to sell the others is that winter is coming. Yeah, but what do you do with the like There are some really hilarious trade offers that could be there for instance.
What do you want me most of Derek Henry? Moster okay, so then you're turning that down you would not go out and shot green most of your deck Henry or Kyron Williams Kyron that Moss no Jack Moss still has yeah, I would take in a killer lingerie They are I mean this is the hardest thing is to sell high on a player like most of Because you're he's number one. He's the number one running back on the number one offense and the number one fantasy running back And what you said earlier when I heard you describing a chain and why you playing against Buffalo? You're like oh it just takes one play.
It's like that's most or two. Yes, they're both rocket ships and most are unlike a chain when Other players come back and Jeff Wilson gets back if Aquaman comes back There he most is the starter. He's the one he might be the three We don't know yet right be Sean hugely disappointing performance if you want to when I spend that wheel of shame later this week You can glance in Bijon's direction cuz 10 for 33 on the ground and then four for 27 through the air huge let down performance for It was I'm not gonna bet against be John ever, but Detroit yeah Kyle's on the microphone right I'm here and whose fault is this you said is redder redder Desmond redder the future of your franchise Definitely not okay. Algier.
What in the world is this a the snaps were up for be John Yeah, this is yeah in week one where they were up in week two though, too So Tyler I'm just a real concern that's sort of the I'm saying of the week one Tyler Algier hindsight looks like that could have been a trap for Algier I don't think it's just a trap necessarily I think what happened in week one was that it was a game script where they dominated they were up 14 points on Carolina Yeah in games where they're up They are going to have so many carries that even if Bijon is 70% of the market share Tyler Algier will in the game with 15 carries are you playing match-ups then I am playing match-ups So upcoming Jacksonville Houston those are games where I think Algier will be you know an okay RB2 flex option But for sure this is be John's backfield I mean we knew coming this is why I wanted to play a chain over Algier because the Detroit Lions They don't give up hardly anything to running backs and you don't want to back up in a situation in a bad matchup What are you going to be doing moving forward in terms of having more courage? I'm gonna just try to look in the mirror and do one of those you know you can do you got this what about like visiting a wizard Yeah, certainly I mean, you know like a Kevin kind of Really go get their courage, you know Wow. Oh, okay. I got you took me a second to know.
I thought um Yeah, I thought I was a wookie. I already have a car there built in with a lot of our great Come on great Steven sand just 19 for 59 against the Jets keep playing him. Yeah Josh Kelly This was as bad as it gets he is officially not it 11 for 12. I Do this for a living I was mad that I hadn't invested more fab on Josh Kelly when the news came out that Austin Eckler was going to be out Longer term.
I feel blessed that I did do that. Yeah, I really thought that Josh Kelly would have a bounce back we did look good now week, right? No, you really did happen and it it allowed me to be tricked for another week as I thought Josh Kelly against Minnesota with the over I mean there was points galore in this match, but it was the Chargers looked at their situation We gave them the neutral script pass rate. It's skyrocketed.
They said no, we're not going to run the ball He was on the field for 73% of snaps 73 got 11 carries on one target. It's this is what look insurance running backs it It can be very difficult when it hits it feels really great, but when it does not hit which it usually does not it feels very bad Yeah, I mean if he had a nickname it would be stuffed That's a terrible performance on a game when you put up 400 something yards. Cleo Herbert. He just doesn't get work So and it's an even split.
This is you know him and Roshan are really sharing time halves of a nasty pie Yeah, exactly. I mean you've got the Denver matchup, but I can't imagine you want to start either You can't possibly have confidence starting a Chicago backfield player right now Yeah, I agree with Mike sentiment that I think Herbert's a good player but this situation I mean look at Reese Hall two straight two straight weeks for Bree Saul where he is not I mean Jeremy is over there Shaking his head and just because what are you doing with Bree Saul now starting? Yeah, I think so I think it's a city next week that didn't go well for Cleo Herbert a minute ago Yeah, it's not good. I mean Bree Saul was 12 for 18 Yeah, here's what you do you do what we would all do if we were playing the video game and facing Zach Wilson You stop resalling you win the game.
Yeah, yeah But all your guys there I mean any Zach I dare you check out how open these receivers are Throw over zero every play. Darrel Wilson was five for 48. Let's move into wide receivers Garrett Wilson nine targets five for 48. I mean you still play Garrett Wilson, right?
Yeah He is a weekly decision depending on what you have is difficult. I had a rocker field That's what I mean by yes, it's ridiculously difficult. You play me Adam. Oh, I like this new voice Thank you for fixing this Jason.
There was just something in my voice. Oh, baby. I'm not old Feeling sounds awesome. I'll be back.
No, I don't know about that Garrett Wilson disappointing Drake London two for 31. That's just part of the rest of the Falcons offense Hopkins three for 48 doesn't seem to have it anymore So that is not there that I didn't even bring this up But I meant to when talking about me being willing to really try to trade there can read and go get one of those other players Is that not only is it the age and the the history of like usually the wheels fall off and we see a little bit of red flags? But he is a guy that is good when his team wins the Titans and tanahill just don't look like that They don't look like a team that's gonna say hey, they're gonna be the top three running back rest of season because we're gonna win a ton of Games and give you 30 carries every game just doesn't seem like that's what the recipe is going forward. Yeah, and Not a good game time to lock it three for 34 disappointing calmer really for 40 disappointing I need I need you guys to weigh in here The manors yeah, the manors offense in general.
I mean Terry McClellan six for 41. You got the six PPR you're probably happy ish John Dodson two for 21 Sam how was sack nine times he threw four interceptions when he threw those interceptions and I'm gonna give the Buffalo Bills all the credit in the world But his when he throws the interceptions there's something missing from the throw like it's coming out of his hand slower Or something is going on because these were ugly. I mean we looked at these and we're like what it is Doing it is absolutely absurd that John Dodson as a rookie put up the numbers that he did and now we're looking at a guy with a Total of 83 yards on the season through three weeks. Are you done?
I think you have to be done on not So I think you got to put them on the bench. I mean what it surprised you guys if that's I guess they won their first two games Like a play Philadelphia if they weren't two and one that performance right there That would run like the way that runner vera handles quarterback's out of it It would probably be what a had Jacobi percent next week, but they are still two and one they're going to be Two and two in the week five against Chicago. So that'll be would you change your like it? Let's put it this way Mike.
I'm not positive Sam. Hell doesn't get bench now I'm not not not it is not a bear's patience It's a good up, but if the change happened would you have renewed interest in McClure and Dodson? Yeah, I'm a client seems safer at least for one week Let's we still have to see how Baker does against these Philadelphia Eagles But like he should succeed people have been succeeding so like if Baker in the box Do like anything average or like good fantasy output for wider severs with Jacobi you'd feel I feel confident enough to put him back in Alright, well, we'll talk more about the drop decision for these guys tomorrow I don't want to linger there today because like the Drake London's and John Dodson's those are guys that Decisions will be made for some of the free agent pickups and that story is going to be the Devon H chain story Titans mark Andrews has not got it going and they lost and I can't help but look at this situation and say Those are correlated right like mark Andrews is either not 100% or they're making these like Todd Monckon's making decisions on this Office that are not making sense because mark Andrews four four thirty five that's not enough Watching it. I think that Lamar or that's mark Andrews is still not fully healthy like Lamar in terms of just as a passer He is completing 73% of his attempts list.
He was 22 of 31 that's 71 over 200 yards Oh no Beckham wasn't there now I mean I know like Zafel ours has soaking up a lot of cheap easy targets But the point is how would Beckham was out and it was just flowers and Andrews as your two top weapons How did mark Andrews only see five targets? This office is is putrid right now you you know the 70 plus percent is irrelevant When you're talking about 6.5 yards per attempt that is if Zafel ours was I believe eight for 48 Yes, six a catch unleash him. It's really I mean right now the Monckon offense is not clicking. It's not working It's been one of the most disappointing big storylines from the offseason obviously with a new system and talented players I think everyone thinks Lamar Jackson is a talented quarterback We know mark Andrews talented tight end Zafel ours looks like a talented rookie You want them to write the ship and it can happen But right now you have to you have to assume that what you've seen is what's gonna continue the matchup coming up is in Cleveland against the Browns Who's defense looks so legitimate?
Oh, they're number one and everything. Yeah, I'm and then they go on the road to Pittsburgh It's maybe over shot baby. Yeah, I think it's gonna be a bad couple of weeks here now mark Andrews You're gonna start every week. He's tied in you don't pot You know if maybe if you have a little porta you could make a decision But outside of that you're you're starting mark Andrews every weekend He's still got a chance for touchdown had one last week I thought that Andrews returning would drop the short area targets for Zafel ours and it seems like the short area targets Was they flower shorter are shorter and hurting Andrews a little bit?
Yeah, but yeah that offense has been disappointing and people came in saying all the wide Receivers there's so much better Back on start Bateman's hurt there. Neither of them were proven neither of them are on the field Yep, so Nelson Agalar is like going to have to play a role on this roster Yeah, I almost I bounced back. What's the opposite of a bounce back? What would you say?
How would you describe that a splat? Yeah? You just don't bounce off the ground. You just go curse I'm 100 with a splat.
Yep two for 17. They've been a joke. You probably time to move on. It hasn't happened Kyle pets nine targets Yeah, honestly five or four ones pretty good for Kyle pets baby.
Yeah, it's a nothing for Zach or a train ride The offense in Arizona was rondell Moore and Hollywood Brown and Michael Wilson the routes for Earth's have come Down each of the three weeks. Okay, it could be Changing philosophy from the first few weeks. It could be Michael Wilson's a rookie right You're gonna involve him more as time goes on and Zach hurts They did try to give him one of those like that little inside pitch around the goal line. Yeah amazingly He did not quite the yards every chance that's always been known his whole career for yards after catch We have to leave it's always been known that's that we are after catch we have to turn the page We've got to close this one down, but tomorrow's a huge show.
It's a waver show. Mm-hmm. So more discussions on these players more decisions to be made We got to Monday night football games that we will be watching well be watching one at a time Mike you from a man who watches nine games on nine televisions on a weekly basis You do a lot of complaining about two games on one night because I don't have the room sit situation You can't hear the studio actually what if you have one game on the left four TVs one game on the right four TVs That'd be great. You could watch one of your fair movies in the middle.
Oh, I could be moving hang out. I gotta go die hard in the movie Yeah, okay, okay Alright lots more to talk about tomorrow. Please join us in the meantime head over to footlank giveaway calm got some good stuff over there Talk to you soon. Goodbye community on join the foot calm and follow us on Twitter at the FF ballers