EPISODE · Apr 11, 2026 · 20 MIN
What Jobs Knew That Most Leaders Still Miss
from The 5Cs · host Charlene Norman
What Jobs Knew That Most Leaders Still Miss. The final episode in a new six part series. The Rock Tumbler: How Different Minds Create Breakthrough Thinking. With special guest Josh Harrison, of the Center for the Study of the Force Majeure and Leaf Island. 5 KEY TAKEAWAYS: Steve Jobs: "Musicians, poets, artists, zoologists who happened to be computer scientists"—not despite diversity, because of it Rock Tumbler Theory: Sharp rocks + friction + grit = polished beauty Force majeure (knock-off effects of extraction) vs. counterforce (how we respond) "The harvest preserves the system" and "folk dance with rising waters"—frameworks for regenerative thinking Pattern across history: Homogeneity kills innovation, diversity creates breakthroughs The 5Cs Podcast connects forward-thinking executives who are building sustainable competitive advantages while driving positive impact. Think of it as an exclusive network of leaders who understand that stewardship isn't just good ethics - it's good business. Becausing addressing business stewardship climate risk and leadership together is in the highest good for all. Connect with Charlene Norman on LinkedIn, find her at her website, subscribe to our Substack for strategic insights, or download the full series on Spotify and Apple.
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A conversation about business, leadership and stewardship. The Rock Tumbler: How Different Minds Create Breakthrough Thinking.
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