Wholesaling is a Grind With No Equity. Commercial Real Estate Builds Wealth While You Sleep!

Hey folks! John’s back for a brand new episode of the CRE Playbook Podcast, and he’s joined by: JOHN KLEISCH. Talking about real deals on the show that takes you from zero to one in getting your first commercial building!In this episode , John sits down with student John Kleisch for his full origin story. John K has been grinding in real estate for years, from a brutal W2 at a Chevy dealership, to building a wholesale operation that hit $350K in a single month, to pivoting to land, to eventually shutting it all down and starting over. He's not a guru. He's someone who kept searching for the right vehicle, and finally found it in commercial real estate.In this episode:✅Quitting a W2 and getting a job offer in real estate✅Building a wholesale business that peaked at $350K/month, then collapsed when rates rose✅Why he walked away from land investing even when it was working✅The honest truth about running a real estate team (and why he thinks it might be the hardest business to run)✅What finally made him go all in on commercial real estate✅His superpower, his weakness, and how both show up in CREDISCLAIMER ⚠️ This episode was recorded in August, 2025If you've been grinding in real estate and wondering if there's a better way, this episode was made for you!🎙️ New episodes every week. Real students. Real deals. No fluff.📩 Want to learn how to get your first commercial deal? Comment "CRE" down below!Follow us on our socials!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cre.playbook Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61572282477159 X: https://x.com/cre_playbook Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/033kjB56cEZQ7OJwuUDkaD?si=Z16dre_QSL-LcKeOzqJlfQ Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/es/podcast/cre-playbook-podcast/id1896868504 Follow John Heisler on his socials!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/john.w.heisler/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/john.heisler.142/ Follow John Kleisch on his socials!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/john.kleisch/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/john.kleisch