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EPISODE · May 1, 2025 · 46 MIN

Why marketing research Is more than just 'talking to customers' w/ Ryan Paul Gibson

from We're Not Marketers · host Gabriel Bujold, Eric Holland, Zach Roberts

Are most B2B marketers actually doing customer research wrong? In this episode, Content Lift founder Ryan Paul Gibson reveals why "just talking to customers" isn't enough and why one-third of marketers can't even get access to customers at all. From his days timing how long people take to put cream in coffee to calling customers without permission, Ryan shares guerrilla tactics for getting real insights when your company stands in the way. Tune in for a masterclass in effective customer investigation that goes beyond the junk food advice most marketers are fed:Why most customer interviews produce useless insights that can't guide marketing decisionsThe 95-5 rule: Why 95% of your market isn't ready to buy (and why that's what marketers should focus on)How one simple purchase decision took Ryan three years to make (and why that destroys most marketing dashboards)Why B2B marketers who can't explain unit economics will always lose budget battlesThe fundamental difference between B2C and B2B that most founders don't understandHow Reddit changed B2B buying decisions forever (and why sales teams haven't caught up)If you've ever tried to make data-driven marketing decisions but got stuck with anecdotes instead of insights, this episode is your lifeline. Ryan shows you how to conduct customer research that actually informs strategy instead of just confirming what you already believe. Hit play to learn investigation techniques that will make your marketing budget work twice as hard.Timestamps:00:54 Meet Our Guest: Ryan Paul Gibson 01:50 Are Product Marketers Actually Marketers? 02:49 The History and Evolution of Marketing 04:56 Ryan's Journey into B2B Marketing 10:00 Challenges in Product Marketing 14:54 The Importance of Customer Interviews 23:05 Understanding B2B Marketing Dynamics 30:24 Understanding Research Design 30:59 Challenges in Client Engagement 36:09 The Role of AI in Market Research 36:50 Qualitative Research and Thematic Analysis 38:47 Leveraging AI for Faster Insights 41:21 Contextualizing Data with AI 49:51 Effective Customer Conversations 57:02 Final Thoughts and Contact InformationShow Notes:"Crossing the Chasm" by Geoffrey Moore Ryan Paul Gibson's "DIY Customer Investigation Guide" Eisenberg 95-5 Rule Research Ryan's LinkedInHosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

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