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Why Not Variant #3- WHY HULK ?!

from NOWHERE CALIFORNIA · host The Guys From Nowhere

Since it is April, Nowhere California's favorite question will be altered and they present their traditional installment of a movie that didn't fly under the radar, but didn't even take off. They like to call these special episodes "WHY?!" In this edition, the guys from Nowhere set their sights of the 2003 Ang Lee comic misfire HULK. Do you think the guys were too harsh on HULK? www.nowherecalifornia.com [email protected]

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Since it is April, Nowhere California's favorite question will be altered and they present their traditional installment of a movie that didn't fly under the radar, but didn't even take off. They like to call these special episodes "WHY?!" In this edition, the guys from Nowhere set their sights of the 2003 Ang Lee comic misfire HULK. Do you think the guys were too harsh on HULK? www.nowherecalifornia.com [email protected]

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Ideas from everywhere are voices from Nowhere since 2011. Welcome to another rare edition of Nowhere, California Presents. Why? This time we're going to be covering Angley's 2003 The Hulk.

The creature is driven by rape. Let's get the legalities out of the way right now and say any music or sound clips that we use in this film are copyright to the creators and to universal pictures. This is a non-profit podcast and so we will not be using this for any kind of monetary game. If we could get monetary game out of it, we would be covering something we'd like.

Yeah, we'd like to hear somebody along with a professional that I'd give you this disclaimer right now. Anyway, with that being said, we were going to get some advice. If Universal's legal team came after us and tried to fuck us for a few more dollars to get this film up over some of its budgetary goals since it sucks so much. Ask, which is why we call this why instead of why not.

So I will give you our regular spoilers. If you have not seen 2003, Angley's Hulk, the Hulk gives it yourself lucky. Lucky motherfucker, you docked a bullet. Hopefully you were born after it just had enough sense not to go and sit to this fucking three, almost three hour film.

With that being said, if you haven't seen this movie, we're going to spoil it for you, which should tell you right off the bat that you don't have to go see it. Spare yourself, save yourself, save yourself. Don't be fucking watch this movie. Nick Nolte is in it.

Don't fucking watch it. This isn't Nick Nolte. This is bad Nick Nolte. This is terrible.

Jennifer Connolly is in it, but even her tits don't make this thing even better. Oh fuck. Okay, here we go. This is Norakal for you presents.

Why? Why 2003's the Hulk? Well, with all the important stuff out of the way, it's time for Norakal for you to get into April tradition of why this is Josh. This is Nick, and this is Phil, and we're asking why to the Hulk?

You know, I have people, a friend of mine who goes by the name of Doug Super, who goes by the name of Doug Super, who is probably one of the people that would defend the shit out of this movie. I will squeeze his balls off for doing so, but nonetheless, I'm really hoping he's listening to this podcast right now, and just like, fuck, this was a good movie. I don't understand why he's not in it so much. I hope he's driving them around the goddamn band, and he also does driving for either Uber or one of these groups and things like that.

So I hope he's listening to it in the car with a passenger in there, and they're terrified right now. He's like, this guy's really angry. What do you want to see when he's angry? Oh, God.

Oh, man. I guess that's the catchphrase. You don't want to see him when he's angry. Then how did you appease the mobs that came out of this film going, what the fuck did we just watch?

I saw the group as somebody angry with the whole thing. Yes, the critics. If I remember correctly, this one didn't really get translated by critics. Well, no, no, no.

It was the viewers, the viewers. The viewers. To be fair, most of the critics fell asleep and missed their deadline because it took them so long to wait for you to see the Hulk. We do get a, you know, look, following some purposes, the cast that's in this, you know, which you'll discuss in just a second, is more than capable of carrying a film.

I think that's what pisses everybody off, is that we've got all these capable people who turn in this limit. I remember the trailer. I remember seeing the trailer and it was just, it was fucking Eric Banna and he was looking in the mirror and he's just like, you know, and he's like, you know, like, you know, sort of that sort of thing. And you see his eyes dilate and they become green and then it shows the outside of the house and you just, like, you see the panels on the house, like the sighting kind of burst out a little bit because he hiked out and almost goes, oh, yeah.

That was the last fucking time I liked that movie. I know. Oh my God. And that was probably just for the trailer too.

Yeah, pretty much. Right. So let's, before we jump into the cast and all that wonderful shit, let's go over the budget. Yes.

This is an interesting info. Yes. The budget was $137 million. It says estimated.

I'm pretty sure that's pretty on fucking point. $137 million. That got flushed right now. It's like a three hour shit is what it was.

Well, that's the thing to point out too. This was two hours and 18 minutes. Right. And looking at the one that preceded this one, the incredible, but that wasn't our, and I think it was at 50.

Well, it didn't precede it. It was one that followed. It was one that followed. It was one that followed.

No. No. Because he'd do this falling. Nope.

No. Okay. Game of four. Okay.

I'll be even bigger dick. And I'll say this was a predecessor to Edward Norton's film. There you go. I thought the M were it is.

That one followed this one. Yeah. That one was an hour and 52 minutes. Right.

So I kind of showed you it didn't need to be that long. But it, that falls under the, I think it falls under the credit, I guess, of the director. Well, you know, yeah. That's the thing.

Ang Lee is a fucking talented director. Yeah. Not one of them is a dumb book. Well, I think he wanted to really build the suspense and just took about 45 minutes longer than he should have.

Like we're saying, he's a very talented director and everything. And everything with him is grandeur. It's big, epic stuff. Right.

With it being a Hulk origin movie? Did he exactly need that? No, I think the big scene should have been the gamma radiation explosion. Like, Banner should have been the only one that was there trying to stop it.

You know, if it happened. I think in this version of it, they have him more where he's going through the gene therapy and decides to do it on himself, like self-experimentation. But isolated area, you know, he was in this area and the thing goes wrong. I think in one of the original versions, it wasn't like a bomb.

It doesn't mean like it hit the bomb. Yeah, it's gamma radiation. It's a gamma bomb basically that goes off and he's too close to it. And this presentation is the idea that experiments on him.

Yeah. From the Chinese child. Now, this one hits a little close to home for us because one of the locations that they filmed at, which by the way, were you an extra on this one? No, no, no.

Pete was. Did you wear a Peter? Yes. Yes.

Pete Fitzpatrick was an extra on this. Yeah. He was an extra on this. And he filmed it out here at the now defunct Georgia Air Force Base.

And the abandoned homes and all that. Yeah, all the base housing. There's out there. That's the, you can see all the shots from their house is the base housing that's out there.

So, anyhow, back to the budgetary stuff like you said, $137 million when you did this film, the opening weekend for the United States only took $62 million, 128 and four. Which is a tank. Yeah, for the, you know, progenitor of a lot of Marvel films to follow, you know, this, you know, for the progenitor, the origin of a lot of these. Well, this one's not.

Yeah. This one really, you know, up until this point, our big Marvel films were Blade Punisher. Spiderman Spiderman. Spiderman came out after.

No, no, no, no, I took it back. It took that. 2002 year. The first Soviet McGuire Spiderman.

Spiderman. It's definitely after the X-Men. X-Men came out 2000. So, it's, it's, this is during the era.

So, working around, you know, fuck with all of a sudden. Sorry, I'm sorry. It's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's, it's not, it's, it's, it's, it's came first, you know, fucking idiot. I just spent too much time on the IMB.

And it was 2000, 2000, 2000 with this Spiderman. Right, and then, hold, yeah, hold was 2000, and unfortunately that kind of got things just, not really screeching all, but every kind of stuff like that. Oh, wait. Yeah, maybe we can't do one of the big budgets like this, you know.

Spiderman did a tremendous job. For those of us that waited, you know, long enough, it was fantastic. Now that we're looking back on it, it's kind of like, wow, it kind of missed Mark on quite few things. Yeah, we did a Hugh Jackman, you know, in Patrick Stewart.

I always like looking at Anna Packone, so, I will leave that one. I really appreciate it. You know it really is. I don't even have the speak for those who are, for those who are.

But yeah, you know what from me telling me to tell him to him, I'm a talent. It works. It's a literally too. What's the same on?

And then a pair of lots of angles, I was fucking stop that, I didn't just pay this much money to have you fucking drag this across, put it back on the track. So our, okay, so our worldwide gross, all together, 241,700,000. Not fucking astronomical, but not, it's not the billion dollar machine that Marvel is now. However, let's, to be fair, Marvel now, is its own studio.

The one thing that Disney does right is this, okay, we're not gonna fucking fix something that ain't broke. So Pixar makes Pixar films, Disney distributes, in conjunction, they share profits, they love one another, all is well on the universe. Marvel makes its own films. They hire their directors, Disney throws them shit tons of money, and they make amazing films and distribute them as well.

And you know, with the Disney banner and stuff like that in there. And Marvel, you know, pre-seeds, you know, the headline and all that stuff. Now we have Star Wars as well. Still holds the Lucas film title, still has it up there.

Disney backs everything, but they put the movie out. They're doing the right thing. Universal decided to say, hey, that angly, he's got himself a hell of an eye, let's throw him a butt ton of money and see what he does. Clearly he snorted about a hundred million a month.

He shot the rest of the film 37. Universal, you know what? Crutch Tiger Hintraig, it's awesome. Let's make that into a comment.

I fucking hated crouching tigers. You know what? I'm one of those people. I thought I was a rarity, okay?

I much prefer, and I'm gonna take the fucking train set on the carpet. I'm one of those people that much more prefer hero, gently hero, which for the longest time, everybody's like, why are they flying? It's because their martial arts skill is so amazing. That does this, but unless you have it to compare against somebody else, where you see the regular soldiers who are just martial artists and you see these other people that can jump up and stand on the end of their blade, you know, that's how good they are.

You don't get the idea, you don't really get the full idea of it. It was beautifully shot, don't get me wrong. Cinematically, it's a gorgeous film. Oh yeah!

But I fucking hated the movie, I just didn't care for it. I tried to watch it. I fell asleep three times in the damn thing. I was like, oh, sorry.

Oh, sorry. To give Lee his credit words, it was like a crouching tiger Hintraig's amazing movie, but born in a cell. Broke back on iconic movie, and also to taking Woodstock. I see, I'm seeing a good one.

Very under underrated movie, but still done by Ang Lee. The subject matter is how Woodstock came to be on the farm that they ended up on. Yeah. Long as hell, I think that's the...

Yeah, that's kind of his thing. He likes to get artsy and all the shit. I think that's the one thing we will just put the check mark by is the problem with this movie, and that's given the link to this problem. I agree.

The minus the other stuff we will be discussing. Oh yeah, I definitely have a lot to cover on it. So anyway, that's where we're at, budgetary. Monetary wise, whatever you want to say, this is the Mean Green.

Yeah. The Big Green. Well yes, you know, it was more Mean Green since... Because it took a while to fucking wrangle up that.

That's your name, no, no, no. Oh hell yeah. And I guess I have to jump right into the castle. We'll go wrap that with the Hulk himself, Eric Banner.

Yeah, and this is gonna fucking anger you. If you haven't seen this movie, this is gonna anger the fuck out of you too, because the cast is tremendous. It's tremendous. Well I kind of kickle his name Eric Banner.

Bruce Banner. Yeah. Yeah, I'm the rule. Yeah, I'm the rule.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, I'm like, I'm the one to play this. I really enjoyed him in this. I actually, as far as the Hulk is concerned in the three, you know, iterations we've seen of Bruce Banner.

I love seeing, you know, I love seeing Eric Banner. You know, and I was like, man, I hope they find somebody to do a really good job and then they cast Edward Norton. And I was like, oh. Well, not to jump, I had to quickly into the trivia, but just to throw it out there since we will be discussing the incredible problem after this.

Oh, of course. Edward Norton was originally a for the Angley Hulk asshole. Oh, really? Okay.

I believe he just could, the scheduling manager, or something like that didn't match for him to do it. As opposed to the Avengers rolling around and people just going, I don't wanna work with Edward Norton. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for a reason. He's searching for me and he asks as much as to direct the film, you know.

But Edward Norton did a great job. And then it was like, okay, who are they gonna get to replace XC did such a tremendous job? And I'm like, oh, what do they fucking care about the bat? So good.

I was a player that, you know, Mark Ruffalo, that he was Edward Norton's Hulk. You know, it's the same Hulk. Yeah. And she goes, you know, because I said his name, she didn't recognize him.

Well, he's the same Hulk as the one from the Edward Norton movie. Yeah. And she went, yeah, I'm like, I think he stepped into it real well because it's really hard to step into something when somebody else is already standing. Absolutely.

Absolutely. That's a big. Yeah, and they did a tremendous job with him. Next we have Jennifer Connolly.

Jennifer Connolly has Betty Ross. Betty Nugs. Sorry. That's what Paul would say back in the day because she's fucking hot.

Betty Nugs. That's how he would do it. I'm telling you, dude, Jennifer Connolly just fucking does it for me. From Lavant, from his, so, so fucking cute.

I think she's a vampire. Because she has an age since Lavant. I know, she's really sexy. She's really, really sexy.

It appears to me. Now, this was my favorite. Speaking of piercing eyes. This was my favorite casting.

Yeah. If I can throw it out. Sam Elliott is general Thunderbolt Ross. Yes, which is, you know, of course, Jennifer Connolly's father in the film and the guy who's like the hunter of the Hulk, you know, which I thought he did a great job in the film.

Yeah. I thought, you know, for what he was featured, he did a great job in the film. Sam Elliott, just that. He had that flat top, that military cut, you know, and I'm so used to seeing him and his, you know, with this big ass bush mustache.

He had to go all the way up to his eye. If you want to go back to Roadhouse, there's a long hair hanging down there and say some. Yeah, he had to go military for this. Yeah, but he, I mean, he did a great, you know, this is, you know, this is our, that's Virge Orp right there, man.

You really root for him. It's kind of weird when you're supposed to be rooting for the Hulk by the same time as the Rook for him because I'm like, I love freaking Sami Ella. I do too. Because he does have a really good presence when he's on screen.

Right. If I go and I'll find out. Okay. You could just Lucas as Talbot, which is, I believe he was banner's research buddy and stuff like that, but it was also kind of the turncoat.

He all shit, throwing information. You know, that shouldn't be known. Yeah. It's like military prick.

Yeah. And then to round it out. I don't know if the big ones, anyways, yeah, uh, nig-alty who would play just as father, you know, well, I don't think he says there was David Manner, His name is David Manner, David Manner but I don't think they really even throw David during the movie. Okay, they probably do because it's not back to the old TV series, because his name was David Bruce Banner.

Yeah. he went by a bad and quite a bit in the which was weird for comic book readers yeah it was weird for comic book readers because we're like what is the proof and what the fuck's happening so yeah i was kind of a but uh... we do get quite an awesome cameo in here two two awesome cameos yeah from lewiford yes the original incredible hulk uh... on uh...

you know from the television series and this is great order stand-manly yes you are yes uh... go ahead i got asked this question okay lewiford no played a security guard in this movie he also played a security guard in uh... the incredible yes is he the same character i think i said i would say the other i think i say but uh... the fun fact that is an incredible hulk the the voice of hulk is is yeah which is perfectly if you don't if you listen to that well well no that's in a vingers and that's no that won't let us know but always 100% hulk all the way through a vingers and a vingers to he is the mote they put the motion cap stuff on his face so all of the facial features and expressions that's that's him translated in the hall and that's also him saying pune god uh...

but the you know that the the whole get in a couple of that's right now all right now which if you listen to a lot of government would be like that he thought that they could be there but i was running that i can't i literally we ran chest first into that but yeah he's a good but he's you have to understand he's in the sixties and he's that he's maintained you know i a bodybuilding and all that stuff and he you know what's the biggest that i like to be in uh... the office on stuff you his arms look okay you know stuff i got in cuz he's in a sixty-two for a little bit like he could still be competing that on and the mister of the yeah and you get that in that we're not inside the incredible hope and he's he's left from the pieces and he you know gets going and kind of something that you know that the other and they can lock hands that you see is what the other is my services mass and you're like jesus is that it's still play the whole yeah it's just all fucking outrageous so uh... with casting everything out of the way let's just just dive into this there's a reason that we keep talking about incredible hope that we try to drag ourselves into the light do some rights ok as much as there is behind the ccs and all that stuff where everybody's like orton was a prick and marvel didn't want to listen to orton everything no matter what that would be was good oh yeah absolutely not compared to this well because it gives more comic book this was a comic book character's name is serious film and it just sucked fucking balls don't forget there was a comic book feel of the transition screens yes yeah was a good idea it's just the execution yeah for this long of movie you know it was seen the panels pop up is like we discussed this we discussed this shortly before we started recording just before you got look at what that will accomplish in a hour and a half is it right okay proof in the pudding that you can give an origin story and still tell a cover to cover quick tale and have amazing results without having to spend the same amount of time waiting to see said character yeah well another thing that that will do right now that really big on comic book and he was not going to come up with right who i i thought that will or not to be a seed that will be a say says it's like it was i get the same action from a lot of people have never seen that but never heard of the character and when i was a proper walking their blinds on what is going on you get it yet even going looking at the ad everything okay fine results but i'll give it a you know i got all those guys fully supported right now so start to finish uh... i'm just saying that what is going on just yet unlike that kind of person that was like what you get this movie may get this movie may be you know please please please please you know i was one of the few that see the link footage early on a comic on a lot of my god why are they doing this and then it really got for everybody to see and that's what it was like fox was all maybe one of something you know there are some of the right we are still like we fucking told you it's all you were here we were talking about we said we said off of mike uh...

i was telling them it was a spicy doing kind of footage or any video showing that will or you know talking about right now is coming back for that will do which was a given it was given but i i think they should have shot a video with that one is hosting running in front of fox for gate just running fuckin money around just don't want to go to the top of the you know all the time and uh... just you know it would be so so fitting but uh... right so you know we i'm buying the studio you have a much money i'm buying a sparkly spot we're talking about how it should be done right when this film is a prime example of how it was done so wrong uh... you know when we finally get to see the full transformation of all which listed it was a little forty minutes into the first i felt like an hour for a minute so i'll tell you that much uh...

you know we get bits and pieces it's still not really uh... you know like it can't get a little bit of a slink off you know what he's big but you're really seen fighter doing it a little bit later on i know the deal of the shit about that but uh... you know all all really had a baddie to fight until all very fuckin and when you get the stupid all dogs yeah which they we believe in some of the business that seems in that night was going to be a little bit of shit i know that's part of the i think the angry problems that you get to a point where there's some decent action and it's a night yeah yeah dark well you know the one thing we did get to see which was like oh okay i like that is the open desert fight uh... they can't have a military yeah that's on the top of the the tank and using the the the those were the those are the best shot and it gives you an idea of how powerful he really is you know so it's like hey that's pretty cool but the fuck it all dogs like the whole see the whole thing with with bruce banner as a whole is the gamma radiation affected him in a specific certain way whenever they tried to duplicate it or something like that it fuck up hence abomination it's you know it's not just because it's not just because it's not just because it's not just a you know it's not like the it's not just because it's just because it's not just because it's just because it's body didn't react the same way which is why which is why uh...

his cousin she hulk she's a lot of you need the blood transfusion and he's bruce gives her blood you know she's dying so he's a blood transfusion even kind of in protest like i don't know if this is going to be good but he's a match for and her blood because of the genetic line is able to you know but she permanently transforms and she can't change that and it's not a problem she has the strength she has all the sexies all the way back in the comics tell you start as bang to the shit out of her she tore his place apart when he fucked and broke her heart that's good story telling maybe maybe one day we'll get it who knows because i can mention it you have to understand man at the end of all of this we're looking at the infinity gauntlet with like fifty fucking marvel characters last last reported we're getting sixty sixty eight sixty eight she's a sixty eight fucking god and think about it you have to run that list of the ones that we already have right so does that mean that we have uh... behind the scenes handshake agreement with x-men characters i think we are like it's all games are i think right now man spider-man is gonna be the spider-man will be the key that'll bring seouli on board and allow uh... i'm sorry that'll bring uh... uh...

fox on board and allow them to share you know production and all that stuff but it's still getting this feeling that we're going to see the whole panel uh... with you you'll get this feeling that they're trying to keep it as possible but i think it might be an agreement but in tribute to anglies hulk it's gonna be forty two minutes before we ever see no good overall it's just a slow-down in the desert you know that's a waste line is it isn't it this is on the high for the first forty minutes and then we're going to rocker trying to get the fucking log into place Oh, Jesus. I've got some trouble around his house walking into the walls. Which will still be about moving the whole thing.

But as we're talking about the studios playing ball with each other, that's another piece of trivia that I stumbled across. It's like, kind of go back to what we're talking about, Studio Playing Ball and everything. And this is a piece of trivia that I kind of stumbled across. We're getting ready.

Universal has all rights to the distribution of the single Hulk movies. And that made me the reason we haven't really had any movement or anything with the Marvel Universe finally deciding to be a Hulk movie. Or just the fact how badly Hulk has been treated in the past with this Angley movie, especially with Angley movie. And then the BSB kind of scenes when it comes to the Incredible Hulk with Norton and everything.

But on the flip side of that coin, Marvel and Disney's pitch to them could easily be, look what we've done. Exactly. Like, look at what came before and look at where we've taken it. Look what we've done with this character that could be your standalone film.

Now, there's still rumblings that, phase four or five of Marvel, we may be seeing where we're Hulk. And the other one is, there was a huge showdown in the comics, not that long ago, a couple years back, The Avengers vs. X-Men. And it basically pits the Avengers in a situation where they have to square off against these crazy, powered mutants because Cyclops, let me see, it's Cyclops Emma Frost, because she's a good guy, Namor, who is actually a mutant as well.

Colossus and Magic, his sister. And what happens is Tony Stark is trying to come up with the plan to stop the Phoenix Force from coming in and kind of taking over young Jean Grey and all this stuff. And all he manages to do is fracture it and split it into several parts and they all inhabit and give this immense power to Cyclops and his X-Men and stuff like that. And so when they're like, no, you need to power down.

Of course, you've just come in and you're like, you need to fucking chill. And then all hell breaks loose with them, you know, duking it out. And you find out certain characters have the ability to stop the Phoenix Force. It involves Iron Fist, who's gonna be coming along in the Netflix version of things and all that stuff.

But I mean, there's a lot of- Well, wait a while with it, especially after Infinity War, it's basically like, where the freak are you guys gonna go with the Avengers after Infinity War? Right, right. What else did I have to say in the past? I don't think we're gonna get a standalone Avengers movie for a while after Infinity War because that's the exact thing, it's like where the hell do you go?

Because they're gonna happen, they're gonna be starting their search for the next Iron Man. Yeah, they're gonna have to. I mean, R.D.J. just turned 51, he's been in this, he's been in the suit of armor now for what, 10 years old?

Over 10. You know, don't get me wrong, I think he's- What's going on? He's gonna be hard to swallow and that maybe when we start to see the film's kind of hiccup because a lot of his charm is what, I mean, Andrew's, you know, it's just not gonna be the same- Same fucking thing. But there's our Sean Connery of, you know, like we were just talking about- Absolutely.

What if Robert County Junior becomes the Sean Connery of the Star? You know, I'm gonna step aside here and just say, I'm so sorry because as you're editing later, you're gonna be like, did we even fucking talk about the shitty movie? Oh, yeah, we can still- We're so hell bent on staying away from the dark, you know. Like, wait, I don't wanna talk about the shitty- But it's all connected?

Yeah, it's all interconnecting. Well, I mean, this, I think Edward Norton's film was created to set apart from this. Like, we can get the whole point. Just ignore the Hulk, you know?

Kind of like when you see Tobey McWhire Spider-Man versus Andrew Garfield Spider-Man. They're like, we're gonna separate the universes and stuff like that. And the one Andrew Garfield is the one that's gonna be freaking on Bizarre World. Well, see, the thing is, I don't think he really deserves to be on Bizarre World.

I think he did a tremendous job. I was really against it because it was so early to reboot, that's not from me anymore. Or even if they were gonna do a reboot and everything? Yeah.

The fact that Andrew Garfield put so much into it, I would have just transferred him over. Granted, but I see where they want to go with this because Spider-Man, yeah, they wanted to go with a teenage kid in this one. That's, I mean, that's his origin story. He's a 14 year old kid.

That's part of the reason that they love him so much in the Avengers world. When he becomes an Avenger, people hold him in such reverence because when they learn how young he is, they're like, I was just jerking off in a sports illustrator when I was 14. This fucking kid was out saving the world, dude. Like, who does that?

So, one thing about the Hulk here, right? What I didn't really agree with, and this is not in the comic books. You know how the genetic experiments and his father's doing on him? He did all this to him prior to that and all it needed is the, I don't like the fact that pretty much the kid's already this weird mutant.

All he needs is the right blouse. The right last name, the gamut accident. I bring it up there, I mean, he even says, I was like, oh, here he is. I'm talking about real son.

You know, not you. You know, he's like, wow, what a weird voice to choose. But I'm all, no, it was pretty much you. He was like, oh, no, it was missing.

It was a fucking rock and chair to banjo. Oh, exactly. I kept expecting halfway through it because I heard him in over the head. I'm going to kill you.

Yeah. I'll be like, we get that disaster on the base where it is that right blast. I'd finally unlocks the magic. You know, and that's, it's funny because it took so long to bring this on banner.

But apparently, you know, if you throw the right amount of gamma radiation at a couple of puppies, you can have some high end fucking guard dogs. I'll kick the wheel. Well, back to the trivia thing. I'm just going to let me probably a trivia portion so I'd throw them all throughout here.

The dog designs was Angley's son's idea. Oh, wow. They don't put an age. So the way they looked at an age four.

They put an age four. My son came up with his cream on drawings of these dogs. I was like, you get, sorry by credit or whatever the fuck credit you get. My son was trying to trace Clifford, but all he had was a green crayon.

So, he was like a pit bull. He's a little bit ballsy with the hand. The thing is there's a lot of nightmare fuel in this movie. If you disregard the dogs, I didn't know that you could flex your shoulder muscle enough to snap somebody's neck.

Like he did with that dog. Yeah. And he does the same thing when I think they're trying to get his sample. He like, his eyes is about to bulge out.

And I think it was a, I don't know, like a cheek muscle or something like that, but shot the missile back at the, at the, or it's gonna look like here though. Well, I know. I know, I know. Do we need to see that though?

I can't wait to see it. It's like, I wanted to see this part where, you know, he's covered with all this plastic. He's squeezing and squeezing. I kept expecting to hear a fart go off and see what's up to completely, really eliminate trivia from the end of this episode.

Angley's original idea for the Hulk dog fight at night was having to be naked. And that's the reason like, I'm sorry. Oh, no, no, how to quit you. Yeah.

But that's where he's going back to the end of the scene. See his butt, but that was Angley's idea. And it's like, well, you could have done it with how dark that scene was. I know you couldn't.

It probably wouldn't have been, unless you see his green thing is clapping his camera. Actually, I would have. Oh, they wouldn't have added that at some point. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. I think he would have taken his thing. Yeah. The whole camera smashes.

Oh, we got the total war. That's why he's so mad. Like, like, it was, it was, it was literally in the animal kingdom of ghosts. Who knows, like, 800 pound fucking monsters and their average penis length is two inches.

No wonder they're saying, oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, dude, dude. But look at, yeah, look at that.

I read that fun fact one time. I was like, oh, this is a bitch. Oh, well, Dick is a dork. Dude, dude, dude, dude.

Consequently, so are we. Yeah. So far. So cold, cold, very cold.

Honestly, what kind of mentality is that? It's like, I want to make it. You know, you just sit there. What?

It's like about the films that he's done. Yeah, it's a fairly stock. At least it's an artsy where placing his mind with it because it was like, you'll ball or something. I want to see these balls.

Well, I fell asleep after, you know, crutchy tiger after the woman got fingered, you know, because the guy took her silver brush. Did I make it that far? I guess you didn't. Jesus.

I should have stayed awake. Yeah, I think there was some finger action in there. I can't wait. Oh, Goli do nudity for artsy film.

Yeah. I'll be right with Lingly there. You can be in the sequel to Broke Mountain, Broke Spincter Mountain. Seriously, he's like, I don't work on Broke.

Oh my god. I was like, oh, god. That was a lot other than mine. Pinksock.

Pinksock Rage. Do you know how to Pinksock is? I'm going to get it since we're in Dark Territory anyway. I'm going to get a real dark here for our Know I Listness.

Okay. Pinksock is when you're screwing somebody in the ass and you pull back and it's called prolapsing where the anus kind of pushes its way out. Ah. So you get that pink material, like the pink inner core stuff that kind of comes out with.

It's called Pinksock. You know, when you chick the foot out of a sock and it comes out the other direction. There you go. The more you know.

And I'd like to take the time out to welcome anybody that's starting to listen to our cover for the days of the day. So with that being said, my wife is filing divorce papers right now. She's going, what the? How did you?

Oh, I found out what Pink Stock was. I found out. Pink Stock, Rusty Chambon. Mini Van.

Glass darn ass. I get real well educated with you guys. So honestly with this, I guess, Mad Max Dury Road edition of Why? We covered all good portion of stuff on this movie.

Yeah, this is just, you know, there's... Basically the end of the movie, if I remember correctly, is him going to the jubil. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he kind of, he leaves you thinking the Jennifer Connolly is going to go hunt him down. Yeah, the only thing was missing was the doo doo doo doo. Which they do, but they're not going to wear it.

There's, there's, right after he has the, you know, the scene in the, the bottling plant. Yeah. And he wakes up in like, you know, Paraguay or where the fuck he's at. Yeah, like around here.

It's like doo doo doo doo doo doo. I was like, yeah. I love that. That's a great score.

I almost was disappointed to hear it. I wanted to hear it when she was like, come on big guy. Get back and, you know, age of Ultron. Just sit down.

I wanted to hear the doo doo doo doo doo. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It sounded joss. We didn't wind in probably Disney where I was like, no, you're the worst in all of it now.

Yeah. He's like, bro, Joss is in that movie. Oh my. But yeah, we get the typical onion that leaves it open for a sequel that we don't get for several years.

But that what he wanted. Which really wasn't a sequel. It was more of a. Let's try this again.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We got to remember it was still in that time where comic movies were still grasping at the straws and everything.

And everybody was like, Oh yeah, sequel, sequel. And then we didn't work. I really wanted to talk about like on the incredible Hulk what I really thought was impressive is that they redid his origin without totally focusing on the origin. Yeah, I know that sounds so fucking short on that one.

Yeah, Batman on this one can kill about an hour. No, I'm gonna be Superman just recently did this. Like how many more times do we have to fucking see Batman's Prince get killed in Grand Valley? Thank you.

I like seeing his Prince. Oh, man, that's because you're a twisted man. By the way, the lonely man themed the whole day. Yeah, I do that every time Christina, oh, I'm gonna catch for like this.

Oh, come on, come on. I do that every time Christina puts her bar on. I can't see her boobs anymore. Oh, yeah.

So I've done it to where she's been getting ready and I'll do this. I'll go, you know, she put a bar on and go, oh, oh, sad and I play. She's cracks up every time I do it. Yeah.

This is our idea that I'll do it for five more time. So, I'll tell you what, that music should have been playing for every person who left that theater with their head down to the sun. Oh, I was looking at my bar, like, why do you watch this? Okay, I know I kind of ran rough shot on that trivia during this one.

So, about doing the subject of the trivia or we don't? Well, are there any particular nuggets in there? Oh, there's a bubble in there. Yeah, there is a bit here.

Here's some. We just use nugget and buttload. The same button. I can't believe we're gonna have to do that in the same sentence.

Oh, I had to catch her. Well, maybe, maybe, well, I should do this. According to the animators, industrial, light and magic. Oh, yeah.

Our good friends there. The work price only makes up in anything. Yes. Including Holz penis.

Uh huh. Well, I guess they didn't have enough for that. Well, that's kind of where I'm going with this. Oh, okay.

They put that way towards the watch. The Hulk weighs 3, 3,452 pounds and can exert 14 tons of pressure. And his skin is 10 times as strong as Kevlar. His chest measure is 208 inches.

His waist is 130 inches. His foot, 51 inches. And his neck, 81 inches. And if he wore shoes, they would be the size 87.

He can move at the top speed of 300 miles per hour and cross three to four miles in a single jump. Yes. Now, he's not even pointing quite a bit. How big is his cock?

Well, I actually was gonna ask how big were his nuggets. But you know, I don't know. The horse poop, tracking him by, yeah. Oh my God.

Wouldn't that be kind of easy to do? It was like he'd been shitting here. Yeah. Have this random agent walking up to his big pal, shake it on.

No. I think it'd be funny if they were trying to comb the desert for Hulk and come to find out that that's basically what he does is let her box it. Yeah, he's a giant little box. That's what I hope, poop.

He shits in the berries. Is that what I'm gonna do? We found something. Oh my God.

I followed into a bit of quicksand, but it's quick poop. Oh my God. I didn't need a plastic. Oh my God.

Did you remember this one? OK. Great. A lot of the microbiology work we see on screen is real and is the work of Angley's wife?

Did you see that? Oh no, that's cool. See, that's cool. He's just like, he built everything into it.

And as much as we say, this movie was crap, Angley is. He's very smart guy. He just, I think, was a raw project. Yeah.

Oh, wow. I didn't even understand where to take it, because it still was an infancy of comba movies. True. And then even the studio probably knew they would got what this was, it probably was on like, a skeleton, a little bit.

Yeah. It's just the Hulk. It's not the whole right thing like that. Mm-hmm.

Next. Did you come up with this one? Jennifer Conley was attracted to the role of Betty Ross and she found Angley's vision of the Hulk interesting. He wasn't talking about a glossy fun-filled kid's movie about a green guy running around in tights he was talking along the lines of tragedy and psychotrama in the green monster of rage g that was a good answer to that to our that is a bad answer to the that is a bad answer to the that is a bad answer to the So, uh, uh, uh, uh, Ang Lee and Eric Banden, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, Ang Lee took Eric Banden to watch a bare knuckle boxing match to prepare him for the brutality of his role.

That'd be interesting to me, with that group, it'd be either, because Ang Lee has a little Asian dude who's probably getting all into this. Eric Banden's probably watching, like, what the fuck does Ang bring him in to? Well, it could've been worse, it could've been like, you know, I took him down to, uh, you know, uh, backwater, doc butt sex, you know, like, show you the brutality of one short and wait. Oh, no, that's great.

Take him to the hall and keep literally running down. Oh, fair enough. Fair enough. The film was developed in 12, uh, oh, sorry, the film was in development for 12 years.

Sufficient time for CGI becomes sophisticated enough to render the special effects needed. Okay, but also that falls under Universal Pulling, uh, dead brothers in fucking production for a long time. If we're gonna go with that one. Yeah, I think that falls under Universal keeping things moving along so they couldn't lose the franchise.

Yeah, just doing what they could. It was decided to withhold showing the Hulk in daylight until much later into the film, giving the audience the chance to get used to seeing him? What? What just won't pass that one?

Okay, okay, okay. So there's so many things running through my mind for that one, it's just like, excuse me, it's like, oh no, he's just too big. That was a brilliant choice. Oh, he's really attractive in the light.

Oh my God, doesn't he rock those blue chains. Bruce's only time I saw him was naked in the moonlight with a green ass. Now I see him go ahead one more. I didn't notice this.

Bruce's dreams are primarily colored green and purple. I think of Colours of the Hulk, who was green and wears purple pants. Uh-huh. I didn't catch that.

Uh, in the Hulk comics, Bruce Banner's father was named Brian Banner. He was renamed David Banner in this film as a tribute to the game. It's easy. Where the Hulk was known as David Banner.

There's no, there's no, that's not cool. Think of you not big with the comics and you grew up watching David Banner on television and then here's this David Banner, and then you're gonna be like, oh, I caught it, mutant. And you're thinking, no, say. You're thinking Eric Banner is at the Sun of Hulk?

Yeah. Let me do this next one because it falls into our classic episodes. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

You're doing this next one? Yeah, let me do this one because it's like he said it's classic for us. Just go for it. Angly turned down Terminator 3 writes on the machines to direct this.

So which part one and which one didn't it's? How much better do you think Terminator 3 would have been? I would have paid the money just another vision. I would not pay that money.

Yeah, yeah. I'm the least vision. Yeah. God, I think we probably, oh, you know we've seen our first fucking robot on robot sexing.

Yes. Oh my God. Yeah. The tournament matrix.

Oh, you do? Christian Locken? Yeah. You can kind of get that whole cover one I think to block Arnie's naked butt in there.

Yeah, exactly. Keep an eye on her. Keep an eye on Terminator 2. We do get to see his ass.

We see his ass. No, actually in Terminator 1 he gets to see his dick flopping around. Yeah, you do. Yeah, when he walks up on, you know, Bill Pullman.

Yeah, I'm sorry Bill Baxter. Bill Baxter. Yeah, you know, dude, man. Yeah.

Nothing clean, right? Yeah, fuck you, asshole. And that guy's looking down and licking his lips. What the hell is that about?

I kind of like the loafers right? I think these. I don't like the loafers. Look at you dude.

I love that reference. Thank you. But no, the, you know, the, I think it was kind of the whole stigma of the punk rock scene in the 80s was they were all homosexual. Yeah.

Or that they were all bisexual, you know, like, no folk women were doing it for a day in a day in a day in a day in a day in a day in a day in a day in a day. I'm now picturing, you know, the Angles version of things. We did have Terminator sex. Yeah.

If you don't can imagine, pounding, pounding, pounding, pounding, right, and he just leaves with Terminator tricks. Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing. He leaves with Terminator. I'm going to go, I'll be back.

I'm trying to do sounds dirty. I know it does. Yeah, she's a, like, like, yeah. Okay.

We, we, we did the design, the design dogs. One of the roles that the costume design team were set was no lab coats. Okay. This is another one of those random things.

It's kind of like the immortal Superman role. I don't want to see him in that gay suit. Don't get his. Oh, God.

I still, I still love the fact that documentaries in the world. So people can see John Peterson is a human. He's real. Yeah.

Oh, what we got here. Oh, oh, oh, I think Nelty was always the producer's first choice to play David Banner. Which, honestly, the one who has a grizzled scientist where they needed somebody in that vein for Bruce Banner's dad, Nick Nelty is the best way to go. Unless you can, your hands are Gary Busey, Gary Busey would have been more of a freakin.

I think they wanted crazy. He's not that crazy. Yeah. You know, like, you go with your control blast crazy.

Yeah, basically Gary Busey is going to admit when he's a, he's been filming Squirrel Girl all these years. I'll never eat your lads. To show the cast where the Hulk would be standing after being added by CGI. A cardboard cutout was used.

The cutout was nicknamed Elvis Presley on a stick by the cast and crew. Nice. I think that was the face of, uh, Jamie Jones. Yeah, uh, for the monkeys.

Oh, you had a fucking straight look on your face. You know, like, really? I thought I could do that. Eric Banner was not a fan of the Hulk comics, which the film is.

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