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EPISODE · May 31, 2026 · 43 MIN

Why Young Adults Are More Stuck Than Ever (Joanna Lilley)

from Phoenix and Flame Podcast · host Dana Skaggs

Would your young adult be able to survive without you? That's the question my guest Joanna Lilley says every parent should be able to answer, and if your gut response is "no" or "I don't know," she's got thoughts. Joanna is a therapeutic consultant who works exclusively with what she calls "emerging adults," people 18 and up who are unraveling in college or not thriving in adulthood, and after years in the field she's convinced young adults are more stuck than ever: not because they're lazy, but because they're paralyzed by too many options and too little structure. Joanna's practice, Lilley Consulting, has helped young adults find mental health, substance use, and wellness resources since 2016. We get into why "too many choices" can freeze someone as badly as too few, the difference between a real boundary and plain distress intolerance, and her blunt advice for parents: don't let fear keep you from holding one, and don't try to be your own kid's therapist. Whether you're the parent lying awake wondering if you're helping or enabling, or the 20-something wondering why "adulting" feels impossible, Joanna's got a roadmap that doesn't require pretending anyone has all the answers. Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHXcxINrWCM In this episode Why young adults are more stuck than ever, and how "too many options" can paralyze decision-making more than too few The question Joanna says every parent should be able to answer: would your young adult survive without you? Why "the path to hell is paved with good intentions" when parents try to be their kid's therapist or coach The real difference between a boundary and plain distress intolerance How to build structure and forward momentum for a young adult who skips (or leaves) college Practical guardrails for gaming, codependent parenting, and job-hopping, without the shame spiral Timestamps (00:02) Welcome and introducing therapeutic consultant Joanna Lilley (01:48) Why Joanna went back to grad school, and the assistantship that made it possible (04:54) Why she chose to work exclusively with "emerging adults" (08:24) What young adults are actually struggling with right now (10:11) Why more options can create more stuckness, not less (12:35) The dark question: would your young adult survive without you? (17:06) Holding a boundary without letting fear drive your parenting (22:40) Building structure and momentum for a young adult who skips college (28:01) Gaming, codependent parenting, and why the average young adult may have nine careers (34:07) The difference between a real boundary and distress intolerance (41:38) Where to find Joanna, her blog, and her podcast, Success Is Subjective About Joanna Lilley Joanna Lilley is a therapeutic consultant and founder of Lilley Consulting, which since 2016 has helped young adults 18-plus find mental health, substance use, and wellness resources. She dedicates herself to working solely with emerging adults who unravel in college or aren't thriving in adulthood, and hosts her own podcast, Success Is Subjective. Learn more, read her blog, and find her podcast at LilleyConsulting.com, or connect with her on LinkedIn. Favorite quotes "Would your young adult be able to survive without you?" —Joanna Lilley "The path to hell is paved with good intentions." —Joanna Lilley, on parents trying to be their own kid's therapist "It's okay to not know at 18 what you're gonna do the rest of your life, because nobody did." —Joanna Lilley Resources mentioned LilleyConsulting.com: Joanna's site, blog, and consulting practice for young adults and families Success Is Subjective, Joanna's own podcast Joanna Lilley on LinkedIn Related episodes How to Overcome Anxiety and Network with Confidence: More support for young adults navigating the anxiety Joanna describes around careers and next steps. How Your Survival Brain is Sabotaging Your Happiness: A deeper look at why the brain freezes up when facing too many choices. Boundaries - Why Can't I Set Them?: More on the real difference between a boundary and avoidance, the distinction Joanna draws here. Subscribe & connect If this episode gave you something to sit with, follow Phoenix and Flame so you never miss an episode: all apps in one place, or jump straight to Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, or YouTube. And if it moved you, leave a review; it's the easiest way to help another listener find the show. Learn more about Phoenix and Flame, connect with Dana, and listen to more episodes here. Curious where your own boundaries stand? Take my free Work Boundaries Quiz: danaskaggs.com/quiz

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