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EPISODE · Apr 16, 2025 · 37 MIN

Winging It

from Tea and Crumpets · host Will Brown & Adam Eagleston, CFA

In the first half, we discuss Liberation Day, the violent reaction of, initially, the stock market and, subsequently, the bond market. In terms of the bond market, we look at the frantic trading from last week that ultimately forced the administration to announce a 90-day pause on most tariffs. Who holds U.S. debt? The answer might surprise you: Total debt - $34 trillion Domestic holders - $26 trillion Japan - $1.1 trillion China - $820 billion (though may be understated as offshore entities, i.e., other countries, are likely being used as well) Other countries - $5.3 trillion In the second half, we discuss the volatile reaction of equities to headlines. Post-Liberation Day, over a 10% decline in two days. The third largest daily gain ever for the S&P 500 on April 9th (when the 90-day pause was announced). While many pundits cite such a large up day as being a portent of further gains, which is true historically, we put it in context of valuation, and the 20.7x P/E the market currently has is well above the 12.7x multiple the market had on average after other large gains. Similarly, we look at expectations for earnings, what we have heard so far (JP Morgan noted deteriorating credit trends while Wells cited resilient spending), and what we think we might hear from companies as earnings season gets into full swing (hint: prepare for the word "uncertainty" to be a common refrain). Finally, we discuss the administration's stated objectives of bringing back manufacturing and reducing trade deficits. What is not often mentioned is that this approach overlooks service surpluses, and is causing a sharp decline in foreign tourism, which may jeopardize these surpluses. Learn more about Formidable Asset Management, Will Brown, and Adam Eagleston by visiting www.formidableam.com.

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