XR & Louise Casey: how to make real change

Making lasting change - is it easier from inside Westminster, or through public protest and activism?Armando Iannucci and Stephen Bush are joined by Louise Casey, the UK government's former homelessness tsar, and Paul Stephens of Extinction Rebellion to discuss how you make change happen within and without the British political system.GuestsLouise Casey, Baroness Casey of Blackstock, DBE, has been head of the UK's Rough Sleepers Unit, Director of the Anti-Social Behaviour Unit and head of the Respect Task Force. She was the UK's first Victims' commissioner and Director General of the Troubled Families programme, before heading a review for David Cameron into community cohesion and extremism. During the pandemic she chaired the Covid-19 rough-sleeping task force.Paul Stephens is a former Metropolitan Police Officer turned Extinction Rebellion activist, working as the environmental activist group's police liaison officer.Stephen Bush was the New Statesman's political editor 2018-2022, and a founding host of the New Statesman podcast.This episode was originally published in the New Statesman podcast feed on August 2, 2021. Listen to the New Statesman podcast here: https://podfollow.com/new-statesmanSubscribe to the New Statesman for full access to all our reporting and analysis. Get your first month free: www.newstatesman.com/30daytrial Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.