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EPISODE · Nov 6, 2025 · 23 MIN

"You Can't Eat Prestige": Why Academic Identity Is a Trap, and How to Get Over It

from Leaving Academia: Becoming a Freelance Editor

“You Can’t Eat Prestige.”It’s a brutal truth that haunts many academics—but what does it actually mean?In this raw and radically honest episode, I sit down with coaches Tory Wobber and Jen Polk to unpack one of the hardest parts of leaving academia: letting go of your academic identity.For so many of us, being a professor isn’t just a job—it’s a calling. We internalize the idea that we’re special, self-sacrificing, and above the grubby world of capitalism. But all that prestige? It doesn’t pay the bills. And it definitely doesn’t buy you freedom.Tory and Jen offer a compassionate, no-BS conversation about how to grieve your academic identity, try on new ones, and build a life that actually makes you happy—even if it’s outside the ivory tower.Drawing from their own exits from academia and years of coaching other scholars through the same process, they reveal just how common—and navigable—this identity shift can be.By the end of this episode, you’ll feel seen and supported. You’ll have practical tools to begin detaching your self-worth from your job title. And you'll have permission to build an identity that’s truly yours.▶ Sign up for Tory's newsletterJoin 2000 PhDs on the Academic Exit Newsletter to receive free tools and techniques for how to move from academia into industry quickly and easily:https://www.academicexit.com/opt-in-36add534-500b-4e74-a319-408d4810480e▶ Subscribe to Jen’s From PhD to Life newsletter to get advice and resources for professors, postdocs, and other PhDs who are ready to change careers, even if that means moving away from academia or their discipline: https://subscribe.fromphdtolife.com/▶ Get Paulina’s free workbookLove what you do but hate where you do it? Get my free workbook Map Your Academic Business and start building your “Plan B.” Use your academic training inside a profitable business that you control–no more free labor, no more toxic workplace, no more burnout. https://acadiaediting.com/map1. **00:00** - Transitioning from academic to alternative careers discussed.2. **01:11** - Cultural norms in academia strongly influence identity.3. **02:52** - Academics often feel a calling, tying work to identity.4. **05:00** - Discussing barriers to seeing oneself in new roles.5. **06:15** - Grieving the loss of previous academic identity is crucial.6. **09:02** - Finding personal identity beyond job titles emphasized.7. **14:56** - Practicing new identities through self-reflection suggested.8. **17:00** - Importance of letting go of old descriptors for self-identity.9. **18:56** - Emphasizing gradual exploration of new professional identities.10. **20:00** - Taking small steps towards new roles instead of abrupt changes encouraged. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

“You Can’t Eat Prestige.”It’s a brutal truth that haunts many academics—but what does it actually mean?In this raw and radically honest episode, I sit down with coaches Tory Wobber and Jen Polk to unpack one of the hardest parts of leaving academia: letting go of your academic identity.For so many of us, being a professor isn’t just a job—it’s a calling. We internalize the idea that we’re special, self-sacrificing, and above the grubby world of capitalism. But all that prestige? It doesn’t pay the bills. And it definitely doesn’t buy you freedom.Tory and Jen offer a compassionate, no-BS conversation about how to grieve your academic identity, try on new ones, and build a life that actually makes you happy—even if it’s outside the ivory tower.Drawing from their own exits from academia and years of coaching other scholars through the same process, they reveal just how common—and navigable—this identity shift can be.By the end of this episode, you’ll feel seen and supported. You’ll have practical tools to begin detaching your self-worth from your job title. And you'll have permission to build an identity that’s truly yours.▶ Sign up for Tory's newsletterJoin 2000 PhDs on the Academic Exit Newsletter to receive free tools and techniques for how to move from academia into industry quickly and easily:https://www.academicexit.com/opt-in-36add534-500b-4e74-a319-408d4810480e▶ Subscribe to Jen’s From PhD to Life newsletter to get advice and resources for professors, postdocs, and other PhDs who are ready to change careers, even if that means moving away from academia or their discipline: https://subscribe.fromphdtolife.com/▶ Get Paulina’s free workbookLove what you do but hate where you do it? Get my free workbook Map Your Academic Business and start building your “Plan B.” Use your academic training inside a profitable business that you control–no more free labor, no more toxic workplace, no more burnout. https://acadiaediting.com/map1. **00:00** - Transitioning from academic to alternative careers discussed.2. **01:11** - Cultural norms in academia strongly influence identity.3. **02:52** - Academics often feel a calling, tying work to identity.4. **05:00** - Discussing barriers to seeing oneself in new roles.5. **06:15** - Grieving the loss of previous academic identity is crucial.6. **09:02** - Finding personal identity beyond job titles emphasized.7. **14:56** - Practicing new identities through self-reflection suggested.8. **17:00** - Importance of letting go of old descriptors for self-identity.9. **18:56** - Emphasizing gradual exploration of new professional identities.10. **20:00** - Taking small steps towards new roles instead of abrupt changes encouraged. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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