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Mar 28, 2026 24 min

You Can’t Pour From an Empty Cup #7

from Self Design Mom Podcast Hosted by Coach Nadia

In this episode, I talk with Michelle Karbonik, a human service counsellor, retired social worker, and early childhood educator. She shares her personal experience with burnout and how it changed the way she approaches helping others. Now working as a life coach, facilitator, and crisis support trainer, Michelle focuses on the importance of self-care. We talk about how easy it is to put yourself last, and why taking care of yourself first is so important if you want to support your family, and others.

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