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EPISODE · Apr 22, 2026 · 36 MIN

Your Therapist Can Meet You in the Mess

from Your Therapist is Not Okay · host Centred Self Psychotherapy

In the last episode, Jess and Ryan talked about what it’s like for clients who feel like the villain in their own story — the guilt, shame, and self-blame that can make it really hard to open up in therapy. In this episode, they shift the focus to the therapist’s side of the room. What is it like for therapists when clients are afraid to share something because they worry it might change how they’re seen?Jess and Ryan explore the moments when people feel like there’s something fundamentally “bad” about them — whether that feeling comes from identity, past choices, relationship struggles, or long-held shame. They also touch on Fairbairn’s idea of the bad object wound, and why these fears of being seen as bad or unlovable can run so deep.Tune in for a conversation on what it means for therapists to sit with clients in those difficult, vulnerable spaces — the parts of a person’s story they might feel most afraid to reveal 🎙️💕Hosted by: Dr Ryan Bittinger (they/them) and Dr Jess Erb (she/her)Cover art by: Una Grace Norona (she/her)Produced and edited by: Denise Danda (she/her)Follow us on Instagram:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@yourtherapistisnotokay⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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