EPISODE · Dec 17, 2025 · 14 MIN
You’re Missing the Real Meaning of Growth | Life Lesson Quotes — Rachel Edmondson-Clarke | Ep 191
from Relatable Wisdom · host Wisdom
On this episode of Relatable Wisdom, I had the honor of sitting down with Rachel Edmondson-Clarke, a leadership expert whose perspective on growth is both deeply personal and profoundly practical. Rachel shared the quote that’s guided her journey: “If you’re not growing, you’re dying or you’re dead.” We explored what growth truly means beyond the usual metrics of money or status. Rachel’s own turning point came after collapsing in her office—a moment that forced her to redefine success, prioritize genuine evolution, and embrace self-compassion. She revealed how growth sometimes means letting go, making space, and choosing discomfort over stagnation. Together, we dug into how “growth” can look like both adding and subtracting—reminding us all that the path to thriving often requires conscious decisions and saying no to what doesn’t serve us. If you’ve ever felt stuck or wondered how to invest in your own ongoing transformation, this conversation gives you the clarity and encouragement you need to keep moving forward—one small step at a time.Connect With Rachel Edmondson-ClarkeWebsite: https://ellevar.co.ukIf Relatable Wisdom speaks to you—if a quote shared makes you pause, smile, or see things differently—consider subscribing so you never miss an episode. And if you have a minute, leaving a review helps more people discover these everyday voices and the wisdom they carry. Your support means the world.Every episode has more to it than what you hear. Join the Relatable Wisdom newsletter to get thoughtful reflections, behind-the-scenes extras, and personal notes that don’t make it into the show. It’s a calm space to stay inspired between listens.Sign up here: https://relatablewisdom.com/joinIf the quotes and stories you hear here offer you comfort, clarity, or connection, you can help support the podcast by buying me a coffee. Every small contribution helps keep these everyday voices and shared wisdom going strong.Support the show: https://buymeacoffee.com/wisdomhqWant to be a guest on Relatable Wisdom? Send Wisdom Okonkwo a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/relatablewisdomChapters00:00 Introduction And Welcome00:33 Meet Rachel Edmondson-Clarke01:17 Rachel’s Favorite Quote On Growth01:39 The Value Of Growth And Learning02:35 Evolving While Staying True03:27 Rachel’s Story Of Hitting Rock Bottom04:11 Defining What It Means To Grow05:32 Growth Zones And The Comfort Zone06:18 Exploring Wisdom’s View On Growth07:00 Growth As Both Increase And Decrease08:06 Becoming Who You Want To Be08:53 The Power Of Saying No09:48 Creating Space For New Opportunities10:35 What Dying Means Without Growth11:59 No Plateaus—Only Growth Or Decline12:18 Building Capacity During “Plateaus”13:12 Closing Thoughts And Appreciation13:42 How To Connect With Rachel14:08 Final Reflections And Goodbye
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On this episode of Relatable Wisdom, I had the honor of sitting down with Rachel Edmondson-Clarke, a leadership expert whose perspective on growth is both deeply personal and profoundly practical. Rachel shared the quote that’s guided her journey: “If you’re not growing, you’re dying or you’re dead.” We explored what growth truly means beyond the usual metrics of money or status. Rachel’s own turning point came after collapsing in her office—a moment that forced her to redefine success, prioritize genuine evolution, and embrace self-compassion. She revealed how growth sometimes means letting go, making space, and choosing discomfort over stagnation. Together, we dug into how “growth” can look like both adding and subtracting—reminding us all that the path to thriving often requires conscious decisions and saying no to what doesn’t serve us. If you’ve ever felt stuck or wondered how to invest in your own ongoing transformation, this conversation gives you the clarity and encouragement you need to keep moving forward—one small step at a time.Connect With Rachel Edmondson-ClarkeWebsite: https://ellevar.co.ukIf Relatable Wisdom speaks to you—if a quote shared makes you pause, smile, or see things differently—consider subscribing so you never miss an episode. And if you have a minute, leaving a review helps more people discover these everyday voices and the wisdom they carry. Your support means the world.Every episode has more to it than what you hear. Join the Relatable Wisdom newsletter to get thoughtful reflections, behind-the-scenes extras, and personal notes that don’t make it into the show. It’s a calm space to stay inspired between listens.Sign up here: https://relatablewisdom.com/joinIf the quotes and stories you hear here offer you comfort, clarity, or connection, you can help support the podcast by buying me a coffee. Every small contribution helps keep these everyday voices and shared wisdom going strong.Support the show: https://buymeacoffee.com/wisdomhqWant to be a guest on Relatable Wisdom? Send Wisdom Okonkwo a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/relatablewisdomChapters00:00 Introduction And Welcome00:33 Meet Rachel Edmondson-Clarke01:17 Rachel’s Favorite Quote On Growth01:39 The Value Of Growth And Learning02:35 Evolving While Staying True03:27 Rachel’s Story Of Hitting Rock Bottom04:11 Defining What It Means To Grow05:32 Growth Zones And The Comfort Zone06:18 Exploring Wisdom’s View On Growth07:00 Growth As Both Increase And Decrease08:06 Becoming Who You Want To Be08:53 The Power Of Saying No09:48 Creating Space For New Opportunities10:35 What Dying Means Without Growth11:59 No Plateaus—Only Growth Or Decline12:18 Building Capacity During “Plateaus”13:12 Closing Thoughts And Appreciation13:42 How To Connect With Rachel14:08 Final Reflections And Goodbye
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