6 Degrees of Associations: Presented by Big Red M.

It’s all about strategic succession planning for association leadership this week on the Six Degrees of Associations Podcast. Greg Heidrich, Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of the Society of Actuaries (SOA), takes us on a journey through what must be considered when stepping down from a CEO position. We discuss how that process becomes even more nuanced when you’ve been in the role for nearly twenty years with unprecedented success.Under his leadership, SOA has seen incredible membership growth. How does a leader who has meant so much to one organization step aside? The reality is that everyone is replaceable, and the time must come for succession planning eventually. Even the most iconic leaders have to step aside and let new leadership take the reins.Greg joins us on the Six Degrees of Associations Podcast, presented by Big Red M, to walk us through that journey. After announcing his retirement in September 2025, he will welcome incoming SOA CEO Clar Rosso officially in early May 2026.More about Big Red M: https://bigredm.com/ More about SOA: https://www.soa.org/ Follow Greg on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-heidrich-5439317/

Courtney Clark, an incredible human who is a world-renowned speaker, author, and researcher on resilience and change, is our guest this week on Six Degrees of Associations, presented by Big Red M.As someone who has spent extensive time working in the association space and has keynoted countless industry events, Courtney is on a mission to end toxic positivity in the workplace.Going beyond pure grit, she discusses how there may come a time in your life, career, or at the inflection point of your association where you actually need to pivot. Sometimes, grit alone won’t get the job done. That is why knowing what to eliminate or stop doing is often more important than knowing what to optimize, because you can never build success while optimizing for all the wrong things.We also touch on the following themes:- Addressing the Gap: Navigating the space between what people want and what they are willing to do.- True Adaptability: What it actually looks like to be adaptable in real-time.- Goals vs. Plans: Understanding the fundamental difference between the two.- Kindness vs. Niceness: Why being nice and being kind are not the same thing.- The Ultimate Choice: Deciding when to pivot and when to persevere.Learn MoreShortCutBook.com: https://courtneyclark.com/theshortcut/ Learn more about Courtney: https://courtneyclark.com/ Watch our episode with Randy Pennington: https://youtu.be/qxroqax1ea4 BigRedM.com: https://bigredm.com/