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ABA on Tap

by Mike Rubio, BCBA & Dan Lowery, BCBA (co-Hosts) & Suzanne Juzwik, BCBA (Producer)

The ABA podcast, crafted for BCBAs, RBTs, OBMers, and ABA therapy business owners, that serves up Applied Behavior Analysis with a twist! A podcast for BCBAs, RBTs, fieldwork trainees, related service professionals, parents, and ABA therapy business owners Taking Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA) beyond the laboratory and straight into real-world applications, ABA on Tap is the BCBA podcast that breaks down behavior science into engaging, easy-to-digest discussions. Hosted by Mike Rubio (BCBA), Dan Lowery (BCBA), and Suzanne Juzwik (BCBA, OBM expert), this ABA podcast explores everything from Behavior Analysis, BT and RBT training, BCBA supervision, the BACB, fieldwork supervision, Functional Behavior Assessments (FBA), OBM, ABA strategies, the future of ABA therapy, behavior science, ABA-related technology, including machine learning, artificial intelligence (AI), virtual learning or virtual

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Episodes

  1. What If Small Courtesy Is The Real Test Of Society?: Shopping Cart Justice with CartNarcs Special Agent Sebastian Davis (Part 1 of 2)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present CartNarcs Special Agent Sebastian Davis (Part 1 of 2): A stray shopping cart can scratch paint, block a space, and ruin somebody’s day, but the bigger story is what happens when a stranger calmly says, “Hey, the cart return is right there.” We sit...

  2. Bring The Noise And Start Hearing It: Beyond the ABCs with Holly Blais (Part 2)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap continues the brew with Holly Blais (Part 2 of 2): A school can be loud with “problems” and still be full of useful information, if you know how to listen. ABA on Tap resumes their chat with Dr. Holly Blais to talk about school-based ABA and why the fastest way to fail...

  3. Bring The Noise And Start Hearing It: Beyond the ABCs with Holly Blais (Part 1)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to brew with Dr. Holly Blais (Part 1 of 2): A worksheet hits the desk, a student melts down, and the room labels it “escape behavior.” The Tap doesn't buy that shortcut, and neither does Dr. Holly Blais. Holly brings a rare mix of school-based behavior…

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  4. The Biggest Risk To ABA Might Be Perception: Autism Therapy Under the Microscope with Chris Larson (Part II)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Chris Larson (Part 2 of 2): Private equity didn’t just “enter” ABA, it helped build the modern autism therapy industry as we know it and that reality comes with uncomfortable questions. Mike and Dan continue the brew with Chris Larson from…

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  5. The Biggest Risk To ABA Might Be Perception: Autism Therapy Under the Microscope with Chris Larson (Part I)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Chris Larson (Part 1 of 2): Autism therapy sits at the intersection of healthcare, politics, and money, and that collision is getting louder. Mike and Dan talk with healthcare journalist Chris Larson from Behavioral Health Business about why ABA has...

  6. What Happens When Profit Becomes The Plan: ABA Business Leadership with Stephen and April Smith

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to spend more time with Stephen and April Smith: It's a pod swap! Please go to the ABA Business Leaders podcast to continue listening to this conversation. In fact, they are so cool, you can watch it all too! https://youtu.be/WSIQRW0ngQo?si=1jguM4nkf0z9J4vs If...

  7. Stop Taking The Train Away; Back to Basics in ABA with Michelle Burr (Part II)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA is proud to present Michelle Burr (Part 2 of 2): A diagnosis can open doors, but it can also be withheld in ways that quietly shut families out. Mike and Dan continue the brew with Michelle Burr, to talk about what it looks like when autism diagnostic practices miss the mark,...

  8. Stop Taking The Train Away; Back to Basics in ABA with Michelle Burr (Part I)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Michelle Burr (Part 1 of 2): The fastest way to lose what makes ABA powerful is to turn it into a checklist. Mike and Dan sit down with Michelle Burr, a veteran clinician with decades in autism services, to talk about what happens when real teaching...

  9. Assistive, Augmentative, Alternative: Talking Tech with Jennifer Kraft (Part II)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Jennifer Kraft (Part 2 of 2): A single line in the wrong plan can change a child’s whole trajectory: “increase compliance.” We dig into what it looks like to replace that mindset with support that actually removes barriers, starting with…

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  10. Assistive, Augmentative, Alternative: Talking Tech with Jennifer Kraft (Part I)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Jennifer Kraft (Part 1 of 2): AAC is everywhere right now, but too many people still treat it like a gadget instead of a voice. Mike and Dan sit down with Jennifer Kraft, a longtime special educator, assistive technology specialist, and BCBA, about...

  11. The 'Hidden' Skills Behind Great ABA Leadership: Ethics, Growth and Parsimony with Kristyn Peterson (Part II)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Kristyn Peterson (Part 2 of 2): The hardest part of behavior analysis isn’t the data sheet, it’s the human side: how you show up, how you lead, and how you make change feel doable. ABA on Tap is back with Dr. Kristyn Peterson for a candid, practical...

  12. The 'Hidden' Skills Behind Great ABA Leadership: Ethics, Growth and Parsimony with Kristyn Peterson (Part I)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Kristyn Peterson (Part 1 of 2): A BCBA passes the exam, gets promoted fast, and suddenly has to lead teams, train new RBTs, manage payer demands, and still protect the client’s care. That jump can feel like getting handed the keys to a moving car,...

  13. What If “Hardwired” Is Just History: Breaking the Rules and Finding Reinforcement with Mark Malady (Part II)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Mark Malady (Part 2 of 2): If you have ever felt pressured to list “behaviors for reduction” even when you know the real need is skill building, this conversation will hit home. ABA on Tap continues our sit down with Mark Malady, to talk about...

  14. What If “Hardwired” Is Just History: Breaking the Rules and Finding Reinforcement with Mark Malady (Part I)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Mark Malady (Part 1 of 2): A piece of duct tape on the floor becomes a turning point for how we think about safety, reinforcement, and basic human connection. Mike and Dan sit down with Mark Malady to trace the long arc from an IEP and constant…

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  15. From Adaptive PE To BCBA Leadership In Schools: Lupe Castañeda Brews A Fresh Perspective (Part II)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to sit down with Lupe Castañeda (Part 2 of 2): You can have the best behavior plan in the world and still fail if the classroom doesn’t trust you. Mike and Dan pick up part two with Lupe Castaneda, and get practical about school-based ABA, BCBA leadership in...

  16. From Adaptive PE To BCBA Leadership In Schools: Lupe Castañeda Brews A Fresh Perspective (Part I)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to sit down with Lupe Castañeda (Part 1 of 2): If you’ve ever walked into a school confident in your assessment, your data, and your “best practice” plan, and still watched it fall apart by week two, you’re not alone. Mike and Dan sit down with Lupe Castaneda…

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  17. Skittles, A Rubik’s Cube, And The ABA Rabbit Hole: A Sip and A Candid Chat with Asia Johnson (Part II)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Asia Johnson (Part 2 of 2): A kid can learn their colors and still be worse off if they’ve been trained to silence “no.” That tension drives our candid conversation with Asia Johnson as we wrestle with what ethical, modern ABA therapy should look…

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  18. Skittles, A Rubik’s Cube, And The ABA Rabbit Hole: A Sip and A Candid Chat with Asia Johnson (Part I)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Asia Johnson (Part 1 of 2): A two-pound baby in the NICU. A young mom in a demanding academic track. Years of sleepless nights, confusing behaviors, and a system full of waitlists and half-answers. Asia Johnson joins us to share the throughline that...

  19. Truth Telling and Good Hiring in ABA: A Couple of Drinks with Holli Beth Clauser (Part II)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Holli Beth Clauser (Part 2 of 2): Grab a comfortable seat and get ready for your second pour of truth telling and good hiring. "They’re just RBTs” might be the most expensive sentence an ABA organization can say. We sit down with Holli Beth Clauser…

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  20. Truth Telling and Good Hiring in ABA: A Couple of Drinks with Holli Beth Clauser (Part I)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Holli Beth Clauser (Part 1 of 2): Grab a comfortable seat and a tasty libation. There is a lot of introspection to be had in this pour. Your turnover number might look like a business problem, but it’s really a human systems problem. We sit down…

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  21. A Perfect Pairing Toward the Eighth Dimension: Compassion and Food with Dr. Yev Veverka (Part II)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Dr. Yev Veverka (Part 2 of 2): Grab a tasty libation, a comfy seat and sip slowly. In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike and Dan are pouring out a fresh perspective on the evolution of behavior science. We are thrilled to welcome a powerhouse…

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  22. A Perfect Pairing Toward the Eighth Dimension: Compassion and Food with Dr. Yev Veverka (Part I)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Dr. Yev Veverka (Part 1 of 2): Grab a tasty libation, a comfy seat and sip slowly. In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike and Dan are pouring out a fresh perspective on the evolution of behavior science. We are thrilled to welcome a powerhouse…

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  23. Tap Into A Reinforcing Conversation with Nicole Stewart and Christina Torres

    Send us Fan Mail *FOR PART I of this interview, please go to the Reinforcing Conversations Podcast Grab a cold one and pull up a chair! In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike Rubio and Dan Lowery are joined by a powerhouse duo shaking up the behavior analysis space: Nicole Stewart and…

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  24. The Birds, The Bees, and The BCBAs: Understanding Sexual Behavior Analysis with Nicholas Maio-Aether (Part II)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Nicholas Maio-Aether (Part 2 of 2): Find the most comfortable seat in the house, pour yourself a cold one, maybe two! In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike Rubio and Dan Lowery are joined by the "Sex Analyst" himself, Nicholas Maio-Aether....

  25. The Birds, The Bees, and The BCBAs: Understanding Sexual Behavior Analysis with Nicholas Maio-Aether (Part I)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Nicholas Maio-Aether (Part 1 of 2): Find the most comfortable seat in the house, pour yourself a cold one, maybe two! In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike Rubio and Dan Lowery are joined by the "Sex Analyst" himself, Nicholas Maio-Aether....

  26. Putting the 'U' in Behaviour: The Art of the Behaviour Lifestyle with Shouberte Abreu (Part II)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to spend some time with Shouberte Abreu (Part 2 of 2): Grab a seat and pour yourself a cold one! In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike Rubio and Dan Lowery are joined by Shouberte Abreu, a powerhouse in clinical ABA and Founder of Behaviour Lifestyle. In...

  27. Putting the 'U' in Behaviour: The Art of the Behaviour Lifestyle with Shouberte Abreu (Part I)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to spend some time with Shouberte Abreu (Part 1 of 2): Grab a seat and pour yourself a cold one! In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike Rubio and Dan Lowery are joined by Shouberte Abreu, a powerhouse in clinical ABA and Founder of Behaviour Lifestyle. In...

  28. A Fresh Keg of Value-Based Care: Optum's 'Low Hours, High Impact' with Mike and Dan (Part II)

    Send us Fan Mail (Part 2 of 2) Grab a seat and pour yourself a cold one! In this episode, Mike and Dan are cracking open the white paper from Optum, titled "Low Hours, High Impact". For years, the "more is better" 40-hour-a-week model has been the industry standard, but the data is starting to…

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  29. A Fresh Keg of Value-Based Care: Optum's 'Low Hours, High Impact' with Mike and Dan (Part I)

    Send us Fan Mail (Part 1 of 2) Grab a seat and pour yourself a cold one! In this episode, Mike and Dan are cracking open the white paper from Optum, titled "Low Hours, High Impact". For years, the "more is better" 40-hour-a-week model has been the industry standard, but the data is starting to…

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  30. A Pour of the New Brew: Clinical Decision Support & Non-Binary Thinking with Amanda Ralston (Part II)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Amanda Ralston (Part 2 of 2): Grab a stool and a cold one because this week on ABA on Tap, we’re joined by an ABA powerhouse, now tech-innovator, Amanda "Mandy" Ralston, M.Ed., BCBA, LBA. With over 25 years in the field and a "serial entrepreneur"...

  31. A Pour of the New Brew: Clinical Decision Support & Non-Binary Thinking with Amanda Ralston (Part I)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Amanda Ralston (Part 1 of 2): Grab a stool and a cold one because this week on ABA on Tap, we’re joined by an ABA powerhouse, now tech-innovator, Amanda "Mandy" Ralston, M.Ed., BCBA, LBA. With over 25 years in the field and a "serial entrepreneur"...

  32. Precision, Passion, and a Pint with Dr. Kerri Milyko, BCBA-D (Part II)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA pn Tap is proud to present Dr, Kerri Mlyko, BCBA-D (Part 2 of 2): Pull up a chair and pour yourself a cold one! In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike Rubio and Dan Lowery sit down with the powerhouse of Precision Teaching herself, Dr. Kerri Milyko, BCBA-D, LBA. Dr. Milyko...

  33. Precision, Passion, and a Pint with Dr. Kerri Milyko, BCBA-D (Part I)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA pn Tap is proud to present Dr, Kerri Mlyko, BCBA-D (Part 1 of 2): Pull up a chair and pour yourself a cold one! In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike Rubio and Dan Lowery sit down with the powerhouse of Precision Teaching herself, Dr. Kerri Milyko, BCBA-D, LBA. Dr. Milyko...

  34. Brewing Better Animal Behavior: Shelter Science with Dr. Erica Feuerbacher, Part II

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Dr. Erica Feuerbacher (Part 2 of 2): Grab a cold one and pull up a chair! In this episode of ABA on Tap, we’re joined by Dr. Erica Feuerbacher, BCBA-D, to explore the fascinating intersection of behavior analysis and animal welfare. Dr. Feuerbacher…

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  35. Brewing Better Animal Behavior: Shelter Science with Dr. Erica Feuerbacher, Part I

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Dr. Erica Feuerbacher (Part 1 of 2): Grab a cold one and pull up a chair! In this episode of ABA on Tap, we’re joined by Dr. Erica Feuerbacher, BCBA-D, to explore the fascinating intersection of behavior analysis and animal welfare. Dr. Feuerbacher…

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  36. Analyzing The Behavior of Everything with Dr. Scott O'Donnell (Part III)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Dr. Scott O'Donnell (Part 3 of 3): Dr. Scott O’Donnell, PhD, BCBA-D, LBA, is a dedicated behavior analyst, educator, and therapist recognized for his advocacy in expanding the reach of Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA) beyond traditional settings. He…

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  37. Analyzing The Behavior of Everything with Dr. Scott O'Donnell (Part II)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Dr. Scott O'Donnell (Part 2 of 3): Dr. Scott O’Donnell, PhD, BCBA-D, LBA, is a dedicated behavior analyst, educator, and therapist recognized for his advocacy in expanding the reach of Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA) beyond traditional settings. He…

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  38. Analyzing The Behavior of Everything with Dr. Scott O'Donnell (Part I)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Dr. Scott O'Donnell (Part 1 of 3): Dr. Scott O’Donnell, PhD, BCBA-D, LBA, is a dedicated behavior analyst, educator, and therapist recognized for his advocacy in expanding the reach of Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA) beyond traditional settings. He…

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  39. Words that Work: Brittany Warnke on Effective Language Interventions (Part II)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Brittany Warnke, SLP (Part 2 of 2): In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike Rubio and Dan Lowery are joined by Brittany Warnke, MA, CCC-SLP, a dedicated Speech-Language Pathologist from San Diego, California. Brittany brings her specialized...

  40. Words that Work: Brittany Warnke on Effective Language Interventions (Part I)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Brittany Warnke, SLP (Part 1 of 2): In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike Rubio and Dan Lowery are joined by Brittany Warnke, MA, CCC-SLP, a dedicated Speech-Language Pathologist from San Diego, California. Brittany brings her specialized...

  41. Behavioral Wellness: Creating Functional Change for Families and Schools With Dr. Tranika Jefferson (Part II)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Dr. Tranika Jefferson, BCBA-D (Part 2 of 2): In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Tranika Jefferson, PhD, BCBA-D, LBA, IBA, a distinguished doctoral-level Board Certified Behavior Analyst and the founder of The Behavioral Wellness Academy. With…

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  42. Behavioral Wellness: Creating Functional Change for Families and Schools With Dr. Tranika Jefferson (Part I)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Dr. Tranika Jefferson, BCBA-D (Part 1 of 2): In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Tranika Jefferson, PhD, BCBA-D, LBA, IBA, a distinguished doctoral-level Board Certified Behavior Analyst and the founder of The Behavioral Wellness Academy. With…

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  43. ABA on Tap -- Why 40 Hours? (Inaugural Episode Revisited)

    Send us Fan Mail Bringing back greatest hits as we wrap on 2025! Our inaugural episode - what got everything started! Originally published 2/15/2020 please enjoy our discussion on the 40-hour ABA model and if it's still medically necessary 40 years after Lovaas published his article stating that…

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  44. It's Beginning to Look A Lot Like, Overstimulation: Holiday ABA with Mike and Dan, Part II

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap presents 'Holiday ABA with Mike and Dan,' (Part 2 of 2) Get ready to navigate family gatherings with ease! In this episode, Mike and Dan are unwrapping the essential conversations so the surprises are all about cheer. Priming is the name of the game--talking with kids...

  45. It's Beginning to Look A Lot Like, Overstimulation: Holiday ABA with Mike and Dan, Part I

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap presents 'Holiday ABA with Mike and Dan,' (Part 1 of 2) Get ready to navigate family gatherings with ease! In this episode, Mike and Dan are unwrapping the essential conversations so the surprises are all about cheer. Priming is the name of the game--talking with kids...

  46. RBT--Person or Service?

    Send us Fan Mail Bringing back greatest hits as we wrap on 2025! Originally published on Season 4 Episode 8 and referred to often in subsequent podcasts, please rejoin us and enjoy this episode - RBT-Person or Service! Continuity of quality service might be one of the most important aspects of...

  47. ACT, MFT and ABA: Discovering a Unique Alphabet with Matt Tapia (Part II)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Matt Tapia (Part 2 of 2): Matt Tapia is a dually-credentialed professional, holding licenses as both a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT) in Arizona and California and a Board Certified Behavior Analyst (BCBA). This unique background…

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  48. ACT, MFT and ABA: Discovering a Unique Alphabet with Matt Tapia (Part I)

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Matt Tapia (Part 1 of 2): Matt Tapia is a dually-credentialed professional, holding licenses as both a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT) in Arizona and California and a Board Certified Behavior Analyst (BCBA). This unique background…

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  49. Shared Joy Before Data: A Discussion with Dr. Megan DeLeon Miller, Part II

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Dr. Megan DeLeon Miller (Part 2 of 2): Join us for an insightful conversation with renowned behavior analyst, author, and speaker Dr. Megan DeLeon Miller. As the founder of the international Do Better Collective, Megan is a leading voice in…

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  50. Shared Joy Before Data: A Discussion with Dr. Megan DeLeon Miller, Part I

    Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Dr. Megan DeLeon Miller (Part 1 of 2): Join us for an insightful conversation with renowned behavior analyst, author, and speaker Dr. Megan DeLeon Miller. As the founder of the international Do Better Collective, Megan is a leading voice in…

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About this show

The ABA podcast, crafted for BCBAs, RBTs, OBMers, and ABA therapy business owners, that serves up Applied Behavior Analysis with a twist!

A podcast for BCBAs, RBTs, fieldwork trainees, related service professionals, parents, and ABA therapy business owners

Taking Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA) beyond the laboratory and straight into real-world applications, ABA on Tap is the BCBA podcast that breaks down behavior science into engaging, easy-to-digest discussions.

Hosted by Mike Rubio (BCBA), Dan Lowery (BCBA), and Suzanne Juzwik (BCBA, OBM expert), this ABA podcast explores everything from Behavior Analysis, BT and RBT training, BCBA supervision, the BACB, fieldwork supervision, Functional Behavior Assessments (FBA), OBM, ABA strategies, the future of ABA therapy, behavior science, ABA-related technology, including machine learning, artificial intelligence (AI), virtual learning or virtual

Hosted by

Mike Rubio, BCBA & Dan Lowery, BCBA (co-Hosts) & Suzanne Juzwik, BCBA (Producer)

Frequently asked questions

How many episodes does ABA on Tap have?

ABA on Tap has 132 episodes on PodParley. The most recent episode was published on October 25, 2026.

What is ABA on Tap about?

The ABA podcast, crafted for BCBAs, RBTs, OBMers, and ABA therapy business owners, that serves up Applied Behavior Analysis with a twist! A podcast for BCBAs, RBTs, fieldwork trainees, related service professionals, parents, and ABA therapy business owners Taking Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA)...

How often does ABA on Tap release new episodes?

ABA on Tap publishes every two weeks, based on its 132 episodes since February 2020.

Who hosts ABA on Tap?

ABA on Tap is created and hosted by Mike Rubio, BCBA & Dan Lowery, BCBA (co-Hosts) & Suzanne Juzwik, BCBA (Producer).
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