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As We Grow
by Gretchen & Joy
We both love Jesus. We both love learning. And we needed a place to talk about it! Join our conversations with one another as we grow in our walks with God.
Episodes
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What it Means to Listen to God and How to Honor the Lord in Shabbat
Grab a cuppa and a snuggly blanket as you join the conversation we're having this week. We'll start with some personal updates, which include a lot of travel! Can you guess which states we went to? I'll give you a hint: they're about as far away as you can get in the country. And then, of course,...
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The Surprising Connection Between Genesis and Daniel
If you're feeling restless, overwhelmed, or a little hopeless, make some time to listen to this week's episode. It focuses on the healing power available when we meditate on our God's character, specifically that the God we serve brings order out of chaos and light out of darkness. Today, Joy...
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The Importance of Celebration and Choosing Joy
Laughter is a staple on our pod, but this week we're digging into why it's so important and biblical. This episode is only a Top One where Gretchen tackles tough questions such as: 1. How much celebration do we need in our lives? 2. How to approach a friend who needs a reminder of joy. 3. What…
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The Fear of Israel and Treating Others as God Sees Them
Our Top Two is back! Today Joy dives in with lessons from Jacob/Israel in Genesis, namely the fruitlessness of allowing fear to drive our parenting choices. Gretchen masterfully ties together a sermon, a classic novel, and a movie about witches for a mic-drop moment about how we view and treat…
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As We Grew this Summer
We're back with a big fat update about alllllll things summer. Teaser: the word gonorrhea came up multiple times ;-) Lots of laughs, some book reccs, personal stories, some reality TV, and a little glimpse into how we grew over the summer. You don't want to miss the big announcement at the end...
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Summer Goals
This week we’re wrapping up our season and heading into a summer break! In this episode, we talk about why we’re stepping away for a few months, what we’re hoping to learn during this season of rest, and the personal goals we’re working toward while we’re off. From growth and discipline to margin...
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Rhythms of Listening in Community
Joy jumps in this week to talk about the necessity of developing a rhythm of stopping and listening before we make any decision, and then she ties it to the unavoidable need for community. This conversation is the kick you need to recalibrate your life rhythms to God's rhythms before summer roars...
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Catching Up With Luke
We only got through one topic this time, so you'll have to tune in next week for our second of the TOP TWO. In this episode, Gretchen lays out the difference between excuses and speaking truth. We talk about the difference between the two and how to identify when excuses are masquerading as…
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BONUS EPISODE: Book Club - Redeeming Your Timeline by Troy Brewer
We're gonna push the limits of your faith and spiritual understanding with this one. Buckle up! We're talking time travel, redemption, and a wild testimony from Gretchen! We did the best we could to summarize Redeeming Your Timeline by Troy Brewer, but you really just need to read this one...
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The One Where We Have 7 Topics
This is the episode that never ends . . . it just goes on and on, my friends! I promise we tried for under an hour, but we just had too many good things to chat about. Today's TOP TWO focuses on seeing God in literally everything, and how a surrendered life seems like the harder way in the...
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BONUS EPISODE: Book Club - The Way of Life: Experiencing the Culture of Heaven on Earth by Bill Johnson
We're back with a bonus episode discussing our March book club read: The Way of Life: Experiencing the Culture of Heaven on Earth by Bill Johnson. This is the first time both Joy and Gretchen have read a Bill Johnson book, and they were both challenged by the content. This book offers a...
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Journaling Through Genesis and Revelations of the Prodigal Son
We're back in our regular groove! This week's Top Two includes Bible journaling habit suggestions, deeper insights into Genesis, and tender takeaways from reading Henri Nouwen's The Return of the Prodigal Son. Also mentioned on the pod, Lisa Harper's podcast Back Porch Theology, "Mountains,...
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On Grieving Unfulfilled Promises
This one is special Today Gretchen gives a vulnerable account of the lessons God is inviting her to concerning His promises for babies. Gretchen shows a lot of courage by sharing raw responses and how she's processing her most recent trip to Bethel's Wonder conference for women. We'll talk both...
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Naming Pain, Setting Boundaries, and Being Emotionally Healthy
We're back from spring break! This week, we kicked our Top Two off with an honest and messy conversation about naming pain in relationships, choosing when extreme boundaries are needed, determining our responsibility in the pain, and deciding how we can keep showing up to our community's "table"...
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On Slowing Down and Encouraging Yourself
Today’s TOP TWO gets a little more introspective as we dig into what we’re noticing God is opening our understanding in. Gretchen kicks it off contemplating how three different books she’s reading are all leading her to the same lesson: “It’s the slowing down.” Joy shares about how she’s…
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BONUS EPISODE: Book Club - Captivating
We're back with a bonus episode reviewing our most recent haverim (book club) read--Captivating by John & Stasi Eldredge. As a counterpart to John's Wild at Heart, this book spells out what makes women unique and valuable. Tune in to find out why this was the book that inspired Gretchen to start...
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Confirmation Bias, Trauma, and Inauthenticity in Growth
This may be our favorite episode to date! Joy kicks off our Top Two by defining confirmation bias and then explaining how it affects processing current events. From there, we broaden the discussion by incorporating the differences between PTSD (post-traumatic stress disorder) and PTG...
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BONUS EPISODE: Our Top Five
It's a BONUS EPISODE, and this time we're pulling back the curtain and sharing some personal examples of things that are bringing us joy right now. From IG posts to kitchen utensils to favorite articles of clothing, we think everyone will find something in here that could add a little bit of…
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Evil as Corrupted Good & Why Adam Hid
In today's Top Two, we take a deep dive into the psyche of Satan and ask thought-provoking questions like, "Should we pray for Satan's salvation?" Listen to find out the surprising insight this gives us into spiritual warfare and how it takes the "teeth" out of the enemy's attacks. Also, Joy…
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Bonus Episode: Be Mindful of Honey - How to Discern Who We Let Speak Into Our Lives
Welcome back for Part Two of our Top Two. Last week we began with Gretchen discussing the state of the church and processing out what we can learn from Bethel's recent controversy. ICYMI: Listen here. Today we jump into Joy's thoughts on choosing who we receive spiritual guidance from. Instead of...
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An Honest Look at the State of Our Church
Opps, we did it again. We recorded our Top Two, but the conversation was way too long to squeeze into one episode. So for this episode, we'll just cover Gretchen's topic, and you are invited to tune in next week for Joy's topic that is surprisingly (not surprisingly--thank you, Holy Spirit)…
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BONUS EPISODE: SITTING AT THE FEET OF RABBI JESUS Book Review
We've certainly teased this a lot, but the December book for our personal book club was Sitting At the Feet of Rabbi Jesus: How the Jewishness of Jesus Can Transform Your Faith by Ann Spangler and Lois Tverberg, and we're finally sitting down to review it. Spoiler alert: We loved it! It's been...
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Beyond Reading: Being Shaped by Scripture
In this week's Top Two, Gretchen and Joy share our Bible reading plans for 2026. We would love to hear what your plan is, too! And towards the end of the podcast, we dive into the uncomfortable truth that most Christians don't know HOW to read the Bible. Why is that? Whose responsibility is it to...
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BONUS EPISODE: Division in the Church
Send us a text Last week, Gretchen laid a vital foundation talking about the power of our words in "The Power of Words: Life, Death, and What We Partner With" This week, Joy gets real spicy talking hard truths about how the Church is playing for the wrong team "in the name of Christ." This one…
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The Power of Words: Life, Death, and What We Partner With
Send us a text In this solo episode of As We Grow, Gretchen reflects on the spiritual weight of our words — how they can create life, reinforce lies, establish patterns, or quietly partner with death when left unchecked. Through personal testimony, Scripture, and recent teachings, this episode...
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BONUS EPISODE: Reflections on 2025 and Intentions for 2026
Send us a text Today we're reflecting on and naming what happened in 2025 (both personally and for the pod), and we're setting some intentions or naming some habits we'll be developing in 2026. This exercise in remembering is valuable for all of us to do, but we highly encourage you to grab your...
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The Big Bonus Episode
Send us a text If you missed us in December, we're back and making up for lost time! This is technically our Top Two, but it rabbit-trailed so often that it's really a Top Two, a bonus, and a we-love-you episode covering just about everything but especially praying with authority (as taught by...
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On Our Royal Identity & Hope During Advent
Send us a text We are back with our Top Two! This week, Gretchen is sharing a few of her favorite excerpts from Kris Vallotton's book The Supernatural Ways of Royalty, and Joy is talking about the biblical definition of HOPE (one of her favorite Advent themes). We can't wait to hear your…
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Spiritual Disciplines While Vacationing and How to Pray
Send us a text Kicking off December with our latest Top Two. Joy reflects on her recent travels and discusses with Gretchen strategies to keep connected with God when not at home. Then Gretchen reflects on her Bible reading from Luke 11, and we dig into Jesus' instructions on how to pray. We love...
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BONUS EPISODE: Book Club "Surrendered to the Holy Spirit " by Hayley Braun
Send us a text Today we're talking about our most recent personal book club pick Surrendered to the Holy Spirit by Hayley Braun. Tune in to see if this book deserves a spot on your TBR list too, and use the link to text the show and let us know what you're reading. Click here to purchase a copy....
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On the Meaning of Shalom and the Importance of Words
Send us a text We're back for our Top Two! This week Joy is discussing the meaning of the Hebrew word shalom, and Gretchen begins to unpack what she's learning about the power of our words. SHOW NOTES "Shalom/Peace" video from Bible Project Victorious Emotions by Wendy Backlund "The Courts of...
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BONUS EPISODE: Getting to Know Us
Send us a text For this bonus episode, we thought it would be fun to give you some time to get to know us better. We're asking each other a range of light-to-introspective questions that give you a little BTS glimpse into who Gretchen and Joy are. Laugh along with us as we get vulnerable and show…
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On Being a Victim to Circumstances & Biblical Confrontation
Send us a text We're back with our Top Two! This week, we share lots of thoughts about the practical application of not being a victim of our circumstances and how to confront a person who offends you, but in all honesty, we don't have a lot of answers or resolution. We leave these topics really...
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BONUS EPISODE: What Our Daily Rhythms With God Look Like
Send us a text In this bonus episode, we're sharing what our daily God rhythms look like. This isn't meant to be prescriptive but rather a chance to inspire creativity for how you may want to tweak your rhythm. We love hearing about others' daily God rhythms too! Leave a voice memo in our DMs on…
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On the Role of Suffering in a Christian's Life
Send us a text Since this is such a big topic, we decided to just tackle one topic for our Top Two. We can't wait to hear your thoughts on this one. Text the show with your comments, and maybe you'll be featured on a future episode! SHOW NOTES John Bevere's Bait of Satan. Leave a voice memo in…
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BONUS EPISODE: Book Club "Victorious Emotions" by Wendy Backlund
Send us a text We're back with another bonus episode and book review about the book that is transforming our lives right now (this is NOT an exaggeration): Victorious Emotions by Wendy Backlund. This book has already come up in previous episodes and will continue to pop up in future...
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On Discerning the World's vs. God's Way
Send us a text On this week's episode, our Top Two merges into one as we both flesh out the idea of what it means practically to follow God's way versus following the world's way. How do you discern the two? What are the consequences? Why is complete surrender non-negotiable? Warning: we're both...
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BONUS EPISODE: Book Club "The Bait of Satan" by John Bevere
Send us a text Have you read The Bait of Satan? Tell us what you think by clicking "Text the show." Ready to check out some of our custom companion book suggestions? Here's what we suggest you read next: Victorious Emotions by Wendy Backlund I Don't Even Like Women: And Other Lies That Get in the...
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On Rest and Grand Learnings
Send us a text On this week's episode, we're back to our normal Top Two format. First, Joy talks about the surprising power of rest rhythms, and then Gretchen answers the question we've all been waiting for--did she or did she not climb the Grand? Thanks for listening! We look forward to hearing...
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On "Blurry" Verses and Your Calling (part 2)
Send us a text In this week’s episode, we pick up with the second part of our Top Two. Gretchen shares how a message on heavenly rewards, a moment of questioning her own calling, and a powerful line from Profound Good all collided into a realization that shifted everything. The takeaway? It’s not...
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On "Blurry" Verses and Your Calling (Part 1)
Send us a text Thanks for listening! We love to hear from you. Click "text the show" to send us a message and tell us your thoughts. Today we break our Top Two into two parts. On part 1, Joy talks about how surprisingly "blurry" she's found 1 Corinthians to be while reading through it. Some of…
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BONUS EPISODE: Follow-Up, Hot Takes, & Book Reccs
Send us a text After releasing our first five episodes, we decided to do a bonus episode following up on some of the things we've discussed previously and answering your questions. As always "text the show" with your questions, and we may feature your question in a future pod. Here's where we're...
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On Being An Adult & Grief
Send us a text On this episode for our TOP TWO, we dive into what Gretchen has been learning from reading Let Them by Mel Robins and how she’s practicing showing up as her adult self—even when others are operating from their inner child. Then on this four-year anniversary of Joy losing her best...
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BONUS EPISODE: Book Club "The Celebration of Discipline" by Richard Foster
Send us a text Today we're talking about our most recent personal book club pick The Celebration of Discipline by Richard Foster. This book is the OG of spiritual discipline books, and Joy couldn't love it more. Tune in to see if this book deserves a spot on your TBR list too, and use the link to...
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On Spiritual Battles & God's Promises
Send us a text We're jumping right into the deep end this week and asking really hard questions. PLEASE NOTE: We're both very vulnerable and share personal stories that are still very painful for us. If you feel you have insight you'd like to share with us, we respectfully request that you submit...
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Bonus Episode: On Our Inner Critics
Send us a text This week we're introducing you to our inner critics--yes, you read that right. They each have their own distinct persona. When we say they are characters, we mean, they are CHARACTERS! Listen to find if your inner critic has any common qualities with Marge or Trixie. Support the...
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On Community and Identity
Send us a text SHOW NOTES Links: The Print Shop for your custom clothing printing needs. Practicing the Way's "Community Practice": The small-group curriculum that Gretchen and Joy led locally. It's all free! Ancient Jewish Meditation Literature: Bible Project video illustrating how the Bible is...
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On Being Loving & Finding Your Voice
Send us a text Let us know your thoughts and questions. Direct message us with the link above 👆 or comment on Instagram @aswegrowpod. In our inaugural episode, we start with sharing a little bit of our testimonies so you can get to know us better. Then we delve into our Top Two (one thing from...
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Welcome Trailer
Send us a text Welcome to As We Grow! In this quick intro episode we introduce ourselves (Joy & Gretchen) and tell you a little bit about what to expect. We look forward to growing with you! Support the show As We Grow is on Instagram. Follow @aswegrowpod for BTS pictures, episode highlights, and...
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We both love Jesus. We both love learning. And we needed a place to talk about it! Join our conversations with one another as we grow in our walks with God.
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Gretchen & Joy
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