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Athletes Beyond the Game
by Julia Fisch & Sara Kelly Kornienko
Welcome to Athletes Beyond the Game, the show that helps athletes transition to life beyond sports.Join former Division 1 tennis teammates, Julia Fisch and Sara Kelly Kornienko, as they get real about the challenges of navigating life post athletic retirement. Each episode, hosts Julia and Sara dive into stories from current and former athletes and talk with retired players about their experience transitioning to life after a competitive sports career.
Episodes
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Sara Stone, D1 Rower to Pro Sailor: Finding Your Passion and Taking Risks
Sara is flying solo this week, talking with D1 rower turned pro sailor, Sara Stone. Stone rowed at Dartmouth college, and after taking a job working at the CDC after graduation, she was inspired to learn how to sail after watching an all-women’s sailing team race around the world. During the...
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Hip Replacement at 24 & Leaning Into Wellness with Sofia Perez
Julia and Sara sit down with their former teammate, Sofia Perez!! Sofia has had a whirlwind of injuries throughout her career, getting a hip replacement at 24 years old. She goes into details about overcoming injuries, how it impacted her post grad life, and how she leaned into health and…
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Olivia Arizin, D1 Track: Overcoming Performance Anxiety
This week, Olivia Arizin shares her journey as a college athlete, discussing her experiences with performance anxiety, the importance of mental health in sports, and the support systems that helped her navigate challenges. She emphasizes the significance of having a balanced identity beyond...
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Healthy Competitiveness and Finding Identity Outside of Sport
This week Julia and Sara are solo! They chat about finding a healthy relationship with their sport post-retirement, struggling with motivation, and a big life update.
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Same Sport, Different Journeys: D1 Track & Field Twins Izze & Sofia Calabrese
In Athletes Beyond the Game this week, Julia and Sara kick off season two with D1 track athletes and twins, Sofia and Izze Calabrese. During the episode, Sofia and Izze get real about the realities of being a female athlete in a sport that focuses on weight. They talk about growing up with a twin...
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A Look Back at Season 1!
To close out season 1, Julia and Sara sit down and go over their top three moments in 2025 and what episodes really resonated with each of them. The flow of this episode is extremely casual. We would love to hear your favorite episodes or moments this season! Visit our website at...
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WNBA Professional Basketball Player, Chelsea Poppens: How to Advocate For Yourself & Find Your Next Goal After Sports
Sara is flying solo in this week’s episode! She sits down with retired WNBA professional basketball player, Chelsea Poppins. They get into some of Chelsea’s most memorable moments from her career and how she learned to advocate for herself while dealing with injuries throughout her career.…
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Michele Lowry, U.S. Ski & Snowboard Athlete Development Manager: How to Prepare for a Career After Sports
On this week's episode, Julia and Sara sit down with Michele Lowry, former D1 swimmer and D1 college swim coach turned US Ski and Snowboard Team Athlete Professional Development Manager. In her current role, she works with the US team’s athletes on developing themselves off snow and making steps...
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Miranda Holder: Former Rower & D1 Coach, Navigating a Career Ending Diagnosis
Julia and Sara are joined this week by Miranda Holder. Miranda rowed at Wellesley prior to taking on the head coaching position at Georgetown University. Listen in as Miranda discusses the trials and tribulations of her athletic career, as she diagnosed with a genetic heart condition which forced...
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Olympian and Record-Breaking Triple-Jumper, Keturah Orji: Navigating Toxic Coaching and Knowing When to Retire
This week Julia and Sara catch up with 3x Olympic triple jumper, Keturah Orji. They talk about the behind-the-scene experiences of athletes at the Olympics and how to navigate toxic coaching environments. They also get into Orji’s decision to retire early and how to know when it’s time to retire...
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Emma Spence: D1 Gymnast, 2x Olympic Alternate, Overcoming Adversity in your Sport & Struggles with Body Image
Julia and Sara are back this week talking with Emma Spence, a former D1 Gymnast at the University of Nebraska, and member of the Canadian National Team. Emma had a decorated career, becoming an alternate at both the Tokyo Olympics in 2021 and the Paris Olympics in 2024. Listen this week as we…
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Riley Tejcek: From D1 Softball to Marine Corps and USA Bobsledder
Julia and Sara sit down with Riley Tejcek, former D1 Softball player from George Washington University. During her college years, Riley also decided to join the Marine Corps, on top of being a student and an athlete. Upon graduating, she joined the Marine Corps and transitioned into Bobsledding...
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Dr. Kiara Scott: From D1 Basketball to Athlete Counseling Psychologist
The duo is chatting this week with the newly Dr. Kiara Scott - a former D1 basketball player from the University of Arkansas, Little Rock. Kiara discusses her dissertation and how she is using it to help student-athletes. We also dive into ways to move your body after graduation and the realities...
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Jennifer Casson: Olympic Rower, Business Co-Founder, and Realities of the Olympic Games
Two-time Olympic Rower, Jennifer Casson, joins Julia and Sara to discuss her journey to the Olympics, the realities of being a professional rower, and what life and training is like in-between Olympic games. They also get into Jenny's forced transition out of rowing after the Olympics removed the...
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Creating New Routines After Athletics
This week Julia and Sara are solo! They get into the importance of routines after athletics, break down their own morning routines, and discuss how to create realistic routines that can make the transition to life after athletics a little easier. Check out our new website!!...
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Ciera Howse: Former ASU Cheerleader, Football GameDay, & Dealing with Getting Cut
After a break last week, Julia & Sara sit down with Ciera Howse, former Arizona State Spirit Squad Cheerleader. Fresh off of graduating in May, Ciera touches on the struggles of getting cut her senior year, what motivated her to keep moving forward, and tips for current student-athletes. Checkout...
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Cali (Jankowski) Marrocco, D1 tennis player: Navigating Severe Injury and Body Image
Former D1 tennis player and Arizona State University alum, Cali (Jankowski) Marrocco, joins Julia and Sara this week on the pod. They discuss the mental and physical challenges of being sidelined as Cali recounts her almost career ending injury the first semester of freshman year as the #2…
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Bri Nunley & Vivian Wilson (ASU): NIL, Roster Cuts, and House v NCAA
Julia and Sara sit down with two Arizona State University athletes to discuss what it’s like being a college athlete in the age of NIL, as well as their views on the current House v. NCAA settlement case that may reshape college athletics. Bri, a soccer player entering her senior year, and…
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Sport Sitters Founder Meaghan Franks: Starting a Business & NIL for Current and Former Athletes
This week, Julia and Sara sit down with Meaghan, founder of Sport Sitters, a platform created to provide NIL opportunities for female athletes (current and former). While this episode is different than our previous ones, we dive into qualities and skills student-athletes possess that are...
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Nevaeh DeSouza, D1 Gymnast and All American: Finding Your Next Career after Sports Retirement
This is a fun one! Julia and Sara talk with retired All-American Division 1 gymnast, Nevaeh DeSouza. They start off with some quick-question games to get to know Nevaeh before getting into her training schedule as a gymnast and how staying involved in her sport as a coach after retirement—and now...
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Jordan Morency: Collegiate Basketball & Mental Health
On this week’s episode, Julia and Sara sit down with current D3 basketball player, Jordan Morency, to discuss a variety of mental health topics that many athletes–current and former–have experienced. During their conversation, Jordan opens up about his own experiences, how to separate your…
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Finding Purpose, Playing your Sport after Retiring, & Listener Questions
We are solo today! We recap and give our perspectives on some of our guests we’ve had on the show so far. Stick around for some listener questions and comments that were written in.
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Holden Koons, College Tennis All-American and #1 Ranked Doubles Player: Using Your Sport to Build Connections Off the Court
This week Julia and Sara talk with D1 tennis all-american and former #1 college doubles player, Holden Koons. During the episode, they discuss many of the life transitions Holden has experienced since graduating from Wake Forest University in 2024, including his experience transitioning from...
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Collegiate Swimmer Lilly Larsen: How to Make Friends in a New City
Former University of Wisconsin La Crosse D3 collegiate swimmer, Lilly Larsen, joins Julia and Sara on this week’s episode of Athletes Beyond the Game. The conversation kicks off with some fun rapid-fire questions for Lilly before getting into her experience with athlete burnout, falling back in...
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Kirby Retzer, D1 Baseball Player: From College Athlete to Professional Trainer
On this week’s episode, Julia and Sara sit down with former Division 1 baseball player, Kirby Retzer. They discuss his decision to end his collegiate baseball career early to pursue a career in exercise science, working in the MLB, elements of sports retirement he struggled with, and practical…
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Christina McHale: Tennis Olympian & Dealing With Success From an Early Age
Professional tennis Olympian, Christina McHale, joins Julia and Sara on this week’s episode of Athletes Beyond the Game, where she reflects on having success early on in her career as a teenager, being an Olympian, and her decision to give professional tennis another shot after two years away…
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Lacrosse Hall of Fame & Two Sport Athlete Matt Striebel
Professional Lacrosse Hall of Famer and two-sport athlete, Matt Striebel, joins Julia and Sara on this week’s episode of Athletes Beyond the Game, where he reflects on his collegiate and professional lacrosse and soccer careers, from telling his best sports story to explaining how his athlete...
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Top Tips for Graduating Student-Athletes
We have a fun game at the end! We're flying solo today! We'll be getting into our careers and ways we used our athletic experience and skills we learned in sports to land and do our jobs. Later in the episode, we will discuss our tips for Junior's and Senior's, and things we wish we did before...
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From the Pool to the Office: Navigating Self Image and Using Athletic Skills Beyond Sports with Rebecca Ensing
Retired swimmer and current Athletic Director of the 3C2A, Rebecca Ensing, opens up about how she dealt with a shifting identity after college no longer being an athlete or a student, how to combat comparison and body image insecurities after retiring, and skills she learned as an athlete that…
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Finding Your New Balance
Former D1 Tennis player, Juli Ascua, joins us on this week's episode to talk about her experience as an international student-athlete and creating a life in Florida after college as an accountant. Juli recounts how she decided to move from Argentina to attend college at FGCU, her most memorable...
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So You Graduated...Now What?
For many athletes, the sport they play becomes part of their identity and governs their daily routine so, when a sports career ends, players often struggle with a shifting identity and sudden change in lifestyle. Yet, this challenging transition is often not talked about, leaving many to struggle...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Welcome to Athletes Beyond the Game, the show that helps athletes transition to life beyond sports.Join former Division 1 tennis teammates, Julia Fisch and Sara Kelly Kornienko, as they get real about the challenges of navigating life post athletic retirement. Each episode, hosts Julia and Sara dive into stories from current and former athletes and talk with retired players about their experience transitioning to life after a competitive sports career.
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Julia Fisch & Sara Kelly Kornienko
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