Back of the Pack Podcast

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast, we take you with us to the Outpacing Melanoma 5K, where the podcast set up on-site for a morning of racing, conversations, interviews, and community connection. After previously having the race team on the show to talk about the mission behind the event, we had the chance to be there in person, meet the people behind the cause, and hear directly from those impacted by melanoma and skin cancer. Throughout the morning, we spoke with dermatologists, doctors, nurses, survivors, supporters, runners, and families who all brought their own perspective to why this race matters. We also caught up with Jenny from 106.5 The Wolf, the race director, and plenty of runners who were brave enough, curious enough, or just chaotic enough to step up to the microphone. This episode is less of a traditional race review and more of a race-day field trip into the heart of a community fighting for awareness, prevention, treatment, and hope. For runners, the message hits especially close to home, because hours spent training in the sun can come with real risks if we are not taking care of our skin. We talk about the energy of the event, the people who made it meaningful, and the reminder that every start line can carry a bigger purpose than just miles and finish times. Join us as we share the voices, stories, and mission from a powerful morning at the Outpacing Melanoma 5K.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast: Second Wind, our Running MythBusters series continues with a look at race day rules that may need to be retired, or at least loosened up a little. We talk about the classic “nothing new on race day” advice and why it is good guidance, but not a federal law carved into a Garmin screen. From new shoes at Little Rock to mystery fuel at mile 8, gas station burrito chaos, weather adjustments, hats, hydration plans, and Gatorade versus Powerade, this episode reminds us that race day success requires preparation, flexibility, and common sense. We also bust the idea that carb loading means eating everything in sight, because fueling should help the race, not create a pasta-powered disaster with a bib number. Then we get into one of running’s biggest truths: the first mile is a liar, whether it feels amazing, awful, or just plain weird. We also break down why “banking time early” usually leads to paying it back later, why race day adrenaline is only a spark and not a training plan, and why real runners absolutely can and should use aid stations. Most importantly, we talk about how a bad race does not have to ruin the whole day. Sometimes the goal changes mid-race, and success becomes finishing, learning, helping someone else, or simply getting through the ugly miles with a story worth telling.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast, we were supposed to be reviewing the Clinton Historic Half Marathon, but severe storms, lightning, heavy rain, and flooding had other plans. After the half marathon was cancelled on race morning, we turned a missing race review into a much-needed conversation about runners, weather, and knowing when toughness crosses the line into bad decision-making. We talk about the difference between uncomfortable weather and dangerous weather, because a little rain is one thing, but thunder, lightning, flooding, tornado warnings, and falling tree limbs are a whole different beast. From there, we dig into why lightning should end the conversation immediately, what actually counts as safe shelter, and why a picnic shelter, dugout, tree, tent, or set of metal bleachers may not protect you the way you think. We also look at how runners can quickly read the skies, from darkening clouds and greenish storm light to sudden wind shifts, shelf clouds, rotating clouds, and that eerie calm before things get ugly. Since flooding helped cancel Clinton, we spend time on why water over roads, trails, underpasses, bridges, and creek crossings is not just an inconvenience, it can become a serious danger for runners and race directors alike. We also cover tornado watches versus warnings, what runners should do if caught outside, and why race directors have to consider not just runners, but volunteers, spectators, police, EMS, course access, and everyone else involved in race day. It may not be the race recap we planned, but it is a practical weather-safety episode for every runner who has ever looked at the radar and thought, “I can probably squeeze this in.”

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast: Second Wind, our Running MythBusters series continues as we take on the training lies runners keep believing. With summer training heating up and fall marathon cycles getting underway, we break down the idea that more suffering automatically means better training. This episode tackles myths like “more miles always means better,” “rest days are weakness,” “no pain, no gain,” “every run needs a purpose,” “the watch is always right,” and “walking ruins the workout.” We talk about why mileage only helps if our bodies can recover from it, why rest is where training actually cashes the check, and why pain is not proof that we are training hard. Sometimes it is proof that we are training stupid. We also dig into the value of easy miles, joy miles, social miles, recovery runs, and those runs that simply clear the cobwebs from our brains. Watches, apps, and data can be helpful guides, but they do not know our stress, sleep, heat, family chaos, or life circumstances. And especially as summer heat and humidity settle in, we make the case that strategic walking is not failure. It may be the smartest thing we do. The big takeaway: train smart, recover well, use your brain, and do not let training myths wreck the miles ahead.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast, we head south to learn all about the Rocket City Marathon Weekend coming up this December in Huntsville, Alabama. We are joined by Eric Fritz and Rhonda Hayden from the Rocket City Marathon team to talk about the history of the race, the growth of Huntsville, and why this 50th running is shaping up to be something special. We dig into what makes Rocket City such a strong destination race, from its mid-sized field and downtown host hotels to the rare indoor finish at the Von Braun Center, complete with food, family, music, and post-race celebration. Eric and Rhonda also walk us through the Hat Trick Challenge, where runners can take on the 5K, 10K, and either the half or full marathon across race weekend, earning individual medals plus a special finisher hat. We also talk about the expo experience, the new Podcast Alley concept, and how several running podcasts will help runners get ready for race weekend from training to nutrition to mental preparation. Beyond the miles, Rocket City is also running with purpose, supporting Huntsville Hospital’s pediatric work after raising more than $100,000 last year for an inclusive therapeutic playground and focusing this year on helping fund a pediatric air ambulance. And since the race lands right in the middle of December, we also get into the holiday magic of Huntsville, including the Tinsel Trail, downtown Christmas lights, family-friendly attractions, restaurants, and southern hospitality. Whether you are already signed up, thinking about joining us, or just looking for your next great race weekend adventure, this episode is your invitation to come run Rocket City with us.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast: Second Wind, we kick off our June series, Running MythBusters, by taking on one of the oldest and most ridiculous myths in the sport: the idea that there is a magical checklist we have to complete before we can call ourselves “real runners.” We break down the nonsense that says real runners have to be fast, never walk, look a certain way, run long distances, race every weekend, or love every single mile. Spoiler alert: myth busted. Whether we run, walk-run, race 5Ks, chase marathons, train on our own, or simply lace up for health, stress relief, or sanity, we belong in the running world. This episode pushes back on pace-shaming, walk-shaming, body assumptions, and the “just a 5K” mindset that makes people feel like their effort does not count. We also talk about why walking can be smart race management, why short distances still matter, and why a bib does not magically create the runner. At the heart of it all is a simple truth: running is not owned by the fast, the young, the thin, the elite, or the people in shoe ads. If we run, if we show up, if we keep moving forward, we are runners. Full stop.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast, we kick things off with a quick review of the KC Run for the Cup 5K, a World Cup-themed race in Martin City that brought soccer energy, steady rain, soggy shoes, and a reversed version of a familiar Kansas City Running Company course. With Kansas City hosting World Cup action and the summer heat starting to settle in, this race gave us a wet but welcome reminder that sometimes rain on race day is not the enemy, it is the cooling system. From there, we shift into the main topic of the episode thanks to a listener message from Topeka about race day packet pickup and why losing that option can be a much bigger deal than some local runners realize. We dig into the hidden costs of packet pickup policies, including gas, hotels, work schedules, family obligations, travel time, and the reality that some runners may skip a race entirely if they have to make two trips just to get a bib. But we also look at the race director side of the table, where volunteer shortages, race morning chaos, timing issues, venue limitations, sponsor expectations, and expo logistics can all turn packet pickup into a tiny DMV with safety pins. This episode is not about declaring one side right and the other wrong, but about understanding how one simple policy can affect runners, race directors, vendors, volunteers, and the overall race experience. We also talk through possible compromises, including packet mailing, bib-only race morning pickup, out-of-town runner exceptions, friend pickup, convenience fees, and clearer communication before registration. If you have ever driven too far for a piece of paper, stood in a race morning line, worked an expo booth, volunteered at packet pickup, or wondered why races make the choices they do, this episode is for you.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast: Second Wind, we wrap up our May Run Your Race series by asking the question that ties everything together: how do we define success for ourselves? After a month of talking about runfluencers, comparison traps, goals that actually fit us, and what happens when the plan falls apart, this finale brings it all home with one simple truth: success is not one-size-fits-all. For some runners, success is a PR, a new distance, or an age group placement, but for others it might be finishing healthy, getting back to a start line after life knocked them down, or still loving running years from now. We talk about why letting running culture, social media, watches, or even our running friends define success for us can add pressure we were never meant to carry. This episode looks at success through different seasons of life, whether we are coming back from injury, managing work stress, navigating parenting chaos, training for a marathon, or simply trying to keep running fun. We also push back against the idea that walking means failure, slower paces do not matter, rest is weakness, or a race only counts if it looks impressive online. Instead, we focus on longevity, joy, and building a running life that keeps giving us more start lines. Before the world starts grading our run, we need to define the win for ourselves. Because the clock can tell us when we finished, but it can never tell us what the finish meant.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast, we celebrate Memorial Day with two race reviews from a hot, humid, hilly Kansas City weekend. First up is the Hometown Half Marathon in the Northland, where what looked like a friendly park course quickly turned into a roller coaster of hills, humidity, bike paths, confusing signage, and one very large license-plate-sized finisher medal. We talk about the good, the tough, and the “wait, are we supposed to turn here?” moments from a race that definitely made everyone earn their finish. Then we head to Loose Park for the Going the Distance 5K/10K, a Memorial Day race supporting the Brain Injury Association of Kansas and Greater Kansas City. This one brought out the Kansas City running community in full force, along with more hills, rising temperatures, and a meaningful cause connected to some truly inspiring local runners. Along the way, we discuss course prep, race-day etiquette between runners and cyclists, the return of summer running conditions, and why sometimes a cold Coke after a humid half marathon feels like bottled magic. It was a weekend of tired legs, big medals, good people, and races that reminded us why showing up matters. Join us as we recap two very different but very memorable Memorial Day weekend races from the back of the pack.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast: Second Wind, our Run Your Race series continues with a topic every runner eventually faces: what happens when the plan falls apart. We talk about missed training runs, bad workouts, illness, family chaos, work conflicts, weather, fatigue, injuries, stomach issues, and those mysterious “why do my legs feel like wet cement?” days that show up out of nowhere. The truth is, no one gets a perfect training cycle, not everyday runners, not elites, and not the perfectly filtered folks online. Instead of panicking when things go sideways, this episode focuses on adjusting without quitting, whether that means moving a long run, shortening a workout, switching to cross-training, taking an extra rest day, dropping race distance, or walking more than expected. We also break down why bad race days happen, from heat and humidity to GI issues, poor sleep, fueling mistakes, course surprises, and mental spirals. Most importantly, we remind ourselves that a bad run or rough race is information, not an indictment. Missed miles do not need revenge miles, and one bad week does not erase months of showing up. Because the plan does not define us. How we adapt does.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast, we head to Waterloo, Iowa for an event that sounds simple until the clock starts laughing at you: Death by 5k. The concept is one 5k every two and a half hours for 24 hours, totaling ten separate races and 31 miles through George Wyth State Park. What started with pancakes, cool morning air, and a smart conservative pace slowly turned into a battle against heat, humidity, mosquitoes, storms, sleep deprivation, and one surprisingly bold raccoon. We talk through each round, from the early confidence of race one to the brutal darkness of race nine and the rain-soaked final push at sunrise. Along the way, we learned that this event is not just about running 31 miles, it is about convincing yourself to keep showing up at the start line again and again. There were moments of strategy, moments of doubt, moments of “why are we doing this,” and moments where the only goal was to survive and advance. And yes, at the end of it all, we earned our little wooden coffin finisher award. Join us as we recap the miles, the weather, the weirdness, and the lessons learned from one very long day and night at Death by 5k.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast: Second Wind, our accidental-but-apparently-working Run Your Race series continues with a simple question: do our running goals actually fit us? After talking about runfluencers and the comparison traps that come from friends, watches, race results, and old PRs, we shift into rebuilding something better: goals based on our real lives. We look at the many pieces that should shape a running goal, including current fitness, schedule, health history, motivation, recovery, season of life, and the reason we run in the first place. From Death by 5K to Sydney Marathon training, we talk through why a goal can sound exciting and still be wrong for the season we are in. This episode breaks down the difference between outcome goals, like finishing a marathon or chasing a PR, and process goals, like running consistently, strength training, sleeping better, fueling properly, and finishing a training cycle healthy. We also dig into the power of setting A, B, and C goals so race day does not become an all-or-nothing scoreboard. Sometimes the dream day happens, sometimes we get a solid effort, and sometimes just finishing the dang thing is the win. At the heart of it all is one big reminder: a good goal should challenge us without punishing us. Because the goal is not just to cross one finish line, it is to keep finding start lines.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast, we head back to Bucyrus, Kansas for the 2026 Running with the Cows Half Marathon. After a few years away from this race, we return to see how this beloved local event is holding up, and whether we could finally make peace with a course that has not always been kind to us. The morning started nearly perfect, with cool temperatures, a strong crowd, smooth race morning packet pickup, and that familiar small-town energy that makes this race special. Of course, as the sun climbed higher over the wide-open Kansas roads, things started to warm up quickly, reminding us that summer running season is right around the corner. We break down the course, the hills, the out-and-backs, the mental grind of hearing the finish line before actually getting there, and the challenge of keeping a goal pace when the day starts heating up. Along the way, we also talk about seeing familiar faces, meeting podcast listeners on course, and the community support that keeps this race feeling like more than just another half marathon. As always, Running with the Cows delivered its famous post-race spread, complete with chocolate milk, great food, and even a smoked ham donation situation that may have been the true victory of the morning. We also give an honest look at a few small hiccups, from pacing confusion to medal expectations, while still celebrating what was overall a very successful return to Bucyrus. If you enjoy race reviews with sunshine, hills, cows, barbecue, and just enough chaos to keep things interesting, this episode is ready for you.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast: Second Wind, our Run Your Race series continues with a look at one of the sneakiest traps in running: comparison. Last week, we talked about the loud pressure of runfluencer culture, but this week we dig into the quieter ways comparison creeps into our minds through faster friends, local race results, Strava posts, Garmin data, and even old versions of ourselves. We break down how seeing someone else’s PR, “easy run,” or big training week can make our own progress feel smaller, even when we’re doing exactly what we need to do. We also talk about the danger of comparing ourselves to the runner we used to be before injury, surgery, weight gain, aging, burnout, or busy seasons of life changed the equation. Technology can help us train smarter, but when watches, spreadsheets, VO2 max estimates, HRV scores, and race result pages start judging our worth, running can quickly become a scoreboard instead of a release. This episode asks us to define success before the run, celebrate consistency, follow people who make running feel possible, and remember the season of life we’re actually in. Because someone else’s good day does not make our run a bad one. Run the season we’re in, not the season someone else is posting about.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast, we finally get back to race reviews after several weeks of tackling some of the running world’s heavier topics. Kyle recaps the always-popular CCVI Trolley Run in Kansas City, a fast and fun four-mile race supporting children with visual impairments, complete with beautiful spring weather, packed streets, and one pacing mistake that somehow still ended in a PR. The episode also revisits the “Too Slow for Boston” Marathon situation and what the future may hold as the chase toward completing the World Marathon Majors continues. Then it’s off to Topeka for the newly revived Top City Half Marathon, now under new management, where Kyle breaks down the course changes, race atmosphere, and a few things that caught runners by surprise along the way. Along the way, there’s discussion about race-day strategy, rebuilding fitness after time off, the mental side of pacing, and why one particular race medal sparked a surprisingly passionate rant. It’s a lighter, funnier return to classic Back of the Pack storytelling with plenty of Midwest running chaos mixed in. Plus, with Sydney Marathon training officially about to begin, the next big chapter of the journey is almost here.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast: Second Wind, we kick off May by asking a big question: are running influencers helping the sport, or quietly making it harder for everyday runners to feel like they belong? We dive into the growing world of “runfluencer” culture, where marathon training can look effortless, high mileage looks normal, rest days get treated like weakness, and every run becomes a piece of content. But for most of us, running has to fit around jobs, families, stress, sleep, recovery, and real life. We talk about the danger of comparing our behind-the-scenes to someone else’s highlight reel, especially when the full picture may include editing, privilege, sponsorships, and a lifestyle built around training. This episode breaks down why elite-level advice does not always translate to beginners, comeback runners, older runners, or weekend warriors just trying to stay healthy and enjoy the miles. We also look at the mental side of this trend, from body image pressure to feeling like our 5K, half marathon, or marathon somehow “doesn’t count” because someone online did more. At the heart of it all is one simple message: follow the people who make running feel more possible, not less. Run your race, not the influencer’s race, not the algorithm’s race — your race.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast, we dig into the Nike controversy that lit up Boston Marathon week after a storefront sign declared, “Runners welcome. Walkers tolerated.” What might have looked to some like a careless joke felt to many runners like a flashing neon sign for a much deeper problem in the sport: elitism. We break down why that message landed so badly, especially in a city like Boston, where resilience, adaptation, and the full spectrum of the running community should matter. We talk about why walking is not the opposite of running, but often a very real part of racing, surviving, and finishing. From back-of-the-pack runners to run-walkers, charity entrants, adaptive athletes, and everyday marathoners, this episode is about who gets welcomed in running culture and who gets merely “tolerated.” We also dive into the reaction from our own social media post, where the comments revealed a sharp divide between people pushing for inclusion and others who doubled down on gatekeeping. Some responses were thoughtful, some were supportive, and some said the quiet part out loud about how certain corners of the running world really view slower runners. We also zoom out and talk about why Nike did not get much benefit of the doubt here, given the brand’s long history of tone-deaf decisions and controversies. This is not an episode about canceling a company just because it got called out. It is an episode about respect, belonging, and why the soul of this sport has always lived in the full field, not just at the front of it.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast: Second Wind, we wrap up our Back of the Pack Survival Guide series by flipping the script on what it really means to run at the back of the pack. This episode is for all of us — the everyday runners, the grinders, the comeback stories, and the ones who refuse to quit. We explore how perspective changes everything, from actually experiencing the race course to appreciating the volunteers, the moments, and the miles that others might miss. We talk about how time shifts from pressure to freedom, allowing us to run with purpose instead of panic. This episode also dives into the power of gratitude — being thankful not just for the finish line, but for the ability to even stand at the start. We redefine what it means to “win,” where finishing, fighting through, and coming back matter more than podiums or pace. And along the way, we celebrate the stories that only back-of-the-pack runners get to tell — the chaos, the connections, and the unforgettable moments that happen when you’re out there long enough to really live the race. Because at the end of the day, this isn’t about being fast… it’s about being resilient, determined, and persistent. And no matter your pace, your place, or your finish time — you belong here.

With no race review on deck this week, we take a different route and dive into a topic that matters deeply to so many everyday runners: which races truly welcome the back of the pack. Fresh off a weekend in Las Vegas, we use this episode to spotlight marathons, half marathons, and shorter races that make room for runners and walkers who need extra time, extra grace, and a finish line that still feels alive when they arrive. We break down what actually makes a race Back of the Pack friendly, from no-cutoff events like Honolulu to early-start options at races like Little Rock and Run the Rainbow. We also dig into races that are building real late-finisher culture, including places that keep the energy up instead of packing everything away before the final runners get home. Along the way, we call out the difference between races that truly plan for slower runners and races that simply allow them on paper. This episode is part resource guide, part love letter to the runners who keep showing up, no matter their pace. If you have ever worried about cutoffs, being swept, or whether you belong at the starting line, this one is for you. Because the best races do not just celebrate the winners, they celebrate the finishers.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast: Second Wind, our Back of the Pack Survival Guide continues with a deep dive into one of the toughest parts of running — when the miles feel slow and the progress feels invisible. We break down the mental battle that so many runners face, from the comparison trap to that frustrating feeling of “I should be better by now.” But this time, we’re not just talking feelings — we’re bringing the science to back it up. From understanding how your body adapts through General Adaptation Syndrome (GAS) to the truth behind the SAID principle, you’ll learn what’s actually happening inside your body even when your watch says otherwise. This episode also pulls back the curtain on race day realities for back-of-the-pack runners — the quiet miles, the cutoff pressure, and the moments where mental toughness matters most. We share our personal story from the Gulf Coast Marathon in Biloxi — the only DNF of this running journey — and why that experience didn’t end our story, but helped shape what came next. If you’ve ever felt stuck, slow, or unsure if your effort is paying off, this episode will remind you that progress is happening… even when you can’t see it yet.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast, Kyle is juggling a full plate of spring running chaos, big announcements, and a weekend that turned into more than just one race story. He kicks things off with updates on upcoming podcast appearances, run club plans, future races, and a chance for listeners to connect with the show in person at the Outpacing Melanoma 5K. Then it is on to a lively, detailed recap of the Rock the Parkway Half Marathon, where great weather, familiar faces, and one of Kansas City’s signature spring races helped deliver Kyle’s third-fastest half marathon ever. There is plenty of fun along the way too, from race morning misadventures and hill-by-hill course breakdowns to giant medals, chocolate milk, and all the little moments that make race day feel electric. But the episode does not stop there. Kyle also shares the story of a quieter, more personal Sunday morning 5K that carried a lot more meaning than a medal ever could. What starts as a bonus race review becomes a heartfelt reflection on memory, friendship, and why some runs matter for reasons far bigger than pace or finish time. It is an episode that mixes laughs, gratitude, race-day energy, and a meaningful reminder of what running can really hold. Whether you are here for the big local race vibes, the honest runner perspective, or the emotional threads that make this show what it is, this one has a little bit of everything.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast: Second Wind, we kick off our April mini-series, Back of the Pack Survival Guide, by going back to where it all begins — the first mile. Whether you’re brand new to running or finding your way back after time away, this episode is your reminder that every runner starts exactly where you are. Kyle breaks down the real, unfiltered truth about starting (or restarting) your running journey — the awkwardness, the doubt, and the feeling that maybe you don’t belong. We talk about the biggest mistakes new runners make, from doing too much too soon to chasing pace instead of progress. You’ll learn how to approach running in a smarter, more sustainable way using simple strategies like run/walk intervals, time-based training, and effort over ego. More importantly, this episode dives into the mindset shift that changes everything — understanding that you don’t have to earn the title of runner… you already are one. If you’ve ever felt intimidated, discouraged, or unsure of where you fit in this sport, this conversation is for you. Because the truth is, the hardest mile isn’t mile 20… it’s mile one. And if you’re willing to take that step, you’re already further than you think.

This week, we take a step back and ask a bigger question—who is running really for? After a recent experience got us thinking, we dive into the growing tension between the business of big races and the heart of the running community. We explore how expos and events have evolved, what drives decision-making behind the scenes, and where everyday runners fit into it all. Along the way, we remind ourselves that while sponsors may shape the experience, it’s the runners who give it meaning. From first-timers to back-of-the-pack finishers, we talk about why every mile matters and why every story deserves a place. This isn’t about calling anyone out—it’s about pulling everyone in. Because at the end of the day, we aren’t just part of the race… we are the race.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast: Second Wind, we sit down with the people behind the Outpacing Melanoma 5K to talk about a race that means far more than pace, place, or finish time. Kelly Klover shares the deeply personal story that led her to found the Outpacing Melanoma Foundation after losing her husband Richard to melanoma just seven weeks after his stage 4 diagnosis, turning heartbreak into fifteen years of action and advocacy. Dr. Gary Doolittle helps break down the realities of melanoma, explaining why early detection matters, how this cancer can spread quickly, and why runners, in particular, need to pay closer attention to sun safety. We also talk honestly about how easy it is for runners to ignore sunscreen, shrug off sunburns, and assume skin cancer is somebody else’s problem, until it suddenly is not. On the race side, first-year race director Anthony Olson previews what runners can expect on May 3rd in Corporate Woods, including a family-friendly atmosphere, a strong community feel, survivor stories, and a race-day environment built around both remembrance and hope. This year’s event also adds a finisher medal for the first time, along with free skin cancer screenings, making it a race that gives back in more ways than one. We highlight the warrior wall, the kids trot, the post-race celebration, and the many ways this event brings families and teams together for a cause that hits close to home. More than anything, this episode is a reminder that protecting your skin is part of protecting your running future. If you’ve ever brushed off sunscreen, skipped a skin check, or needed a reason to show up for a meaningful local race, this conversation is for you. On May 3rd, we are not just running a 5K, we are helping outpace melanoma together.

This week, we head to Liberty, Missouri for a full recap of the 10th anniversary Run Liberty Half Marathon, a race that continues to carve out a special place in our running calendar. We talk about the community feel that makes this event more than just another stop on the race schedule, from the expo to race morning to the people behind it all. We break down the course mile by mile, including the sneaky climbs, the glorious downhills, and the hills that seem personally offended by our existence. We also get into the weather drama, after a freeze advisory tried to scare everyone silly before giving way to a much more runnable morning. Along the way, we share what it is about Run Liberty that keeps bringing us back, even when the course is out there throwing haymakers. We spend time talking about the little things that matter too, like indoor staging at William Jewell, familiar faces at the expo, and the heart that race leadership pours into the event. This episode is part race review, part love letter to a hometown event that keeps showing up for runners year after year. We also revisit the late-race battle to stay ahead of the 2:45 pacer and how that turned into one of the more satisfying finishes we have had on this course. And because sometimes the running gods have a sense of humor, we celebrate the wild coincidence of completing half marathon number 88 while wearing bib number 88. If you love race recaps, course talk, Midwest running culture, and the strange magic that keeps us lacing up, this one is for you.

In this episode of The Back of the Pack Podcast: Second Wind, we take a deep dive into one of the most frustrating controversies in recent running memory: the 2026 US Women’s Half Marathon Championship in Atlanta. What should have been a showcase of elite competition turned into chaos when the lead women were directed off course in a national championship that also carried major world-team implications. We walk through exactly what happened, how the mistake unfolded, and why the fallout hit so hard across the running community. From the role of race officials and emergency response to the failures of the rulebook itself, this story became about much more than one wrong turn. We also break down the aftermath, including prize money decisions, USATF’s later recognition of the wronged athletes, and the bigger questions that still linger. Along the way, we explore what this incident says about fairness, trust, and accountability in the sport. At its heart, this episode is about what happens when athletes do everything right and the system still lets them down. If you care about competition, integrity, and how races are supposed to work, this is one you do not want to miss.

We head south to Jackson, Mississippi for the Run the Rainbow Marathon, a race with a powerful mission supporting the state’s only children’s hospital. From the moment we arrive, it’s clear this event is fueled by heart, kindness, and a community that truly cares about its runners. The weekend kicks off with an eventful expo experience, complete with great swag and memorable conversations with runners from all over. Race prep takes an unexpected turn with a late-night food delivery adventure that adds a little extra character to the trip. On race morning, we toe the line with a unique and intimate marathon field, setting the stage for a different kind of race experience. The early miles bring a steady rhythm and a relaxed mindset, especially coming off the mental grind of Tokyo just weeks prior. As the course unfolds, we’re treated to stunning neighborhoods, historic homes, and some of the most beautiful scenery you could ask for in a marathon. The race also delivers a challenge with rolling hills and rising temperatures, reminding us to stay present and keep moving forward. Even through the toughest miles, the spirit of the event and the people behind it continue to shine. In the end, Run the Rainbow proves to be a meaningful and memorable race experience, blending purpose, community, and the joy of running into one unforgettable journey.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast: Second Wind, we welcome back the team from The Good Life Halfsy in Lincoln, Nebraska for a conversation we have somehow never had before in nearly 300 episodes: post-race surveys. Instead of just sending out feedback forms and letting them disappear into the void, the Good Life Halfsy team breaks down how they actually use runner input to improve the race year after year. We dig into what runners loved about the 2025 expo, from the layout and flow to the family-friendly atmosphere and easy packet pickup process. We also talk about some of the areas runners wanted improved, including parking challenges and finish line congestion. The team explains why they are bringing back wave starts for 2026 and how that decision is meant to create more space on the course and a better overall experience for everyone. They also share plans to expand indoor warm-up space at the start line in case Nebraska weather decides to get dramatic again. On the finish line side, the Good Life Halfsy is rolling out new ideas like post-race recovery bags, more photo booths, expanded celebration areas, and an even smoother flow for runners meeting family and friends. We also get a preview of the new pre-race “Big Halfsy Energy Pack,” which will include fueling items runners can actually use before and during race weekend. Along the way, the Pink Gorilla team gives a behind-the-scenes look at just how seriously they take continuous improvement and why listening to runners is one of the biggest reasons this race keeps getting better. It is a fascinating look at how one of the Midwest’s best half marathons goes from survey results to real-world action. If you have ever filled out a race survey and wondered whether anyone actually reads it, this episode is your answer. And if you are thinking about running The Good Life Halfsy in 2026, this conversation will make it pretty clear why so many runners keep coming back to Lincoln year after year.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast, we settle back into a more normal Monday after finally putting Tokyo in the rearview mirror. We open with a few updates from around the Kansas City running community, including a heartfelt recap of Scott’s Extra Mile and the incredible turnout for a run honoring the memory of Scott Green. From there, we also look ahead to the Run the Rainbow Marathon in Jackson, Mississippi, where rising temperatures could make for a tough spring race day. But the heart of this episode centers on a controversy that lit up the running world after the New York City Marathon lottery results were released. We break down the now-deleted viral post that suggested slower runners, charity runners, and lottery runners were somehow less deserving of a place in a World Marathon Major. From a true back-of-the-pack perspective, we dig into why that mindset misses the entire point of what makes running special. We talk about the value of charity runners, the dedication it takes for runners of every pace to reach a marathon start line, and why speed alone does not determine worth in this sport. We also explore how major marathons like New York are built on more than talent alone, with fundraising, community, personal transformation, and inclusivity all playing a massive role. This episode is a defense of the everyday runner, the charity bib runner, the lottery hopeful, and anyone who has ever wondered if they truly belong in this space. We make it clear that the running world is at its best when there is room for everyone, from the front of the pack to the very back. Along the way, we also reflect on why harmful elitism still stings so deeply when it shows up in a sport that is supposed to bring people together. If you have ever felt looked down on, underestimated, or dismissed in running, this episode is for you.

Four years ago, on March 13, 2022, The Back of the Pack Podcast released its very first episode. What started as a simple idea to talk about running, races, and the everyday runner has grown into something much bigger over time. Today we celebrate four years of the podcast and roughly 260 episodes along the way. In this special anniversary episode, we take a moment to look back at how the show began and where the journey has taken us. Along the way, we explore some fascinating statistics about the podcasting world and just how rare it is for a show to last this long. Many podcasts fade out after only a handful of episodes, making longevity in this space a real accomplishment. We break down the numbers behind the show and what it takes to keep a weekly podcast going year after year. We also look at how the podcasting industry itself has grown and evolved since 2022. Most importantly, we reflect on the incredible running community that has supported the show from the very beginning. From race recaps and interviews to group runs and listener stories, this podcast has always been about the people who make running special. This episode is part celebration, part reflection, and a sincere thank you to everyone who has been part of the journey. The Back of the Pack may not always be the fastest runners on the course, but four years later, this podcast is still out there running strong.

This week, The Back of the Pack Podcast is finally back in studio as we unpack the full experience of the 2026 Tokyo Marathon and the unforgettable trip to Japan. From navigating Tokyo’s massive train system and the marathon expo, to the friendship run, race morning chaos, strict cutoff pressure, crowded course conditions, and the emotional relief of crossing the finish line, we break down the entire adventure with honesty, humor, and plenty of hard-earned perspective. Beyond race day, we also share stories from the rest of the trip, including Kyoto, Hiroshima, Mount Fuji, sumo, knife-making, and the culture shock of life in one of the biggest cities on Earth. It is a full race review, travel recap, and post-marathon debrief all rolled into one, as we celebrate finally earning World Marathon Major star number five and turning the page toward what comes next.

While Kyle is off in Tokyo chasing World Major dreams, guest host Lisa Watkins (The Behind the Bib Podcast out of Huntsville, Alabama) grabs the mic for a full review of the Every Woman’s Marathon, a traveling marathon built to make runners feel seen, supported, and wildly welcomed, especially first-timers. Lisa breaks down what makes the event unique, from year-long communication and pop-up runs to an expo that’s basically a runner-care theme park (Rabbit gear everywhere, free coffee, yoga, braiding, and “they thought of everything” amenities). Then she gets real about race day in Scottsdale: bus gridlock drama, a “net downhill” course that turned wet, concrete-heavy, and surprisingly hilly, a brutal late climb, rising temps into the 80s, and cramps that made miles 20+ a survival story. She also dishes on the finish-line layout (a little chaotic), the difference in crowd energy compared to Savannah, and why the afterparty absolutely shines with recovery stations, PT help, food, and a legit concert. Lisa wraps with what the race stands for, a generous 7:45 cutoff, the next destination ******** in February 2027, and a handful of race recs that deserve a spot on our calendars.

This week, while we’re overseas, we’re still showing up for the Kansas City running community with a spotlight episode on the Going the Distance 5K & 10K at Loose Park on Memorial Day (May 25), benefiting the Brain Injury Association of Kansas and Greater Kansas City. Heather Carbaugh shares what the organization does as a statewide resource hub for brain injury survivors and families, from advocacy and education to support groups and connecting people with services, emphasizing that brain injury is a lifelong journey and far more common than most of us realize. Retired KC Running Company race director Brad Ziegler explains why this event is a true KC classic, a reunion race with a uniquely great location, long history (39 years), and a volunteer-powered mission that deserves bigger attention. We also break down race-day basics (5K, two-loop 10K, one-mile option, kids run), how the proceeds stay local to support survivors, how to get involved as a volunteer, and a special listener discount code  for 15% off through St. Patrick’s Day.

In the final chapter of The Long Run: Aging and Athletes, we step back and reflect on what it truly means to keep running as the years go by. The finish lines may look the same, but the reasons we chase them evolve. Running stops being about proving something and starts becoming part of who we are. We talk about longevity, perspective, and the quiet pride that comes not from speed, but from simply continuing to show up. This episode is about honoring the miles behind us, embracing the uncertainty ahead, and recognizing that the real victory was never a personal record. It was the decision, over and over again, to keep going.

This week, we go all-in on the Tokyo Marathon with our final preview before wheels up. We dig into what makes Tokyo such a bucket-list race, from its place in marathon history to the major-event energy that makes it feel like more than just another 26.2. We also take a virtual tour of the course and talk through the landmarks, neighborhoods, and moments that make this race feel like a guided sprint through the heart of the city. Of course, we spend time on the topic that has so many runners sweating before they even reach the start line: the Tokyo cutoff mats. We break down why they feel so intimidating, what the timing really means, and how to think about them without spiraling into panic. We also get into the race etiquette and rules that make Tokyo unique, especially the cleanliness standards, aid station flow, and the small details that matter in a race this organized. Along the way, we share fun facts about both the marathon and Tokyo itself to help paint the full picture of what race week is really like. This episode is part travel guide, part race strategy session, and part reminder to stay calm and run smart. If Tokyo is on the calendar this year, this is the episode to hear before heading to the airport. Let’s get ready to run one of the biggest and most unforgettable races in the world.

As runners, we spend so much of our early years chasing the clock, measuring progress in minutes and seconds, always believing the next personal best is right around the corner. But eventually, something changes. In this episode, we explore what happens when success is no longer defined by speed, and how our relationship with running evolves as we grow older. We talk about the emotional shift that comes when personal records become less frequent, and how we begin to discover new meaning in consistency, resilience, and simply showing up. Running becomes less about proving something and more about preserving something. We reflect on how experience reshapes our goals, how gratitude replaces pressure, and how the miles begin to represent something deeper than performance. Because at some point, the finish line stops being about how fast we arrive, and starts being about the fact that we’re still running toward it at all.

This week, we start with a quick trip into the wilderness where common sense goes to die: the Barkley Marathons went down again, and the course reminded everyone who’s boss. Then we bring it back home for a race review of the Sweetheart Run 10K in Overland Park, Kansas, complete with the moments that felt smooth, the parts that bit back, and what the day taught us going forward. From there, we head straight into the pre-Tokyo nerves that a lot of us are feeling right now. If you’ve heard whispers about Tokyo’s cutoff mats and thought, “Wait… cutoffs along the course?” we break it all down in plain English. We talk through why Tokyo’s timing system feels different, how starting later can change the math, and what matters most when the clock is doing the chasing. We also share the mindset shift that turns the mats from scary to manageable, especially for back-of-the-pack runners who want to finish strong and stay calm. No panic, no doom, just a clear plan and a little confidence. If Tokyo is on the calendar or if we’ve ever worried about being “too close” to a cutoff, this episode is for us. Lace up, settle in, and let’s run the numbers without letting them run us.

This week, we move deeper into our Running & Aging series by getting practical about what training actually needs to look like as we get older. As runners in our mid-40s and beyond, we can’t rely on brute force or outdated plans anymore, but that doesn’t mean we’re slowing down or giving anything up. We break down what physically changes as we age, the most common mistakes masters runners make, and how to train smarter through better structure, strength work, recovery, and intentional intensity. From building weekly schedules that respect recovery to understanding why strength training and sleep are no longer optional, this episode is all about keeping us healthy, consistent, and running strong for years to come. This isn’t about chasing who we used to be—it’s about building the best version of who we are now.

This week we kick things off underground with a full recap of the Groundhog Run at Subtropolis, one of the most unique races around and one that has us literally running through caves. We talk about the good, the weird, and the wildly frustrating, especially the annual bus and parking chaos that leaves runners standing in the cold longer than we’d like. Once inside, though, the event shines with a warm cave atmosphere, great volunteers, and a community vibe that keeps us coming back year after year. We break down the Tunnel to Tunnel Challenge, tackling both the 5K and 10K, navigating crowded starts, overdressing for the cold, and trying to stay loose while waiting nearly two hours between races. It turns into a lesson in patience as muscles tighten, sweat cools, and we’re reminded how tricky winter racing can be. Along the way we celebrate small wins, from improved 10K pacing to cheering on friends hitting big milestones like their first 10K finish. We also share why we skipped the Kickoff 5K after a tough 16 mile long run and a grumpy knee, choosing smart training over stubborn miles as Tokyo gets closer. With taper season officially here, the focus shifts from racing everything to protecting the body and making it to the starting line healthy. It’s a mix of cave miles, cold mornings, medal hauls, and honest talk about listening to your body. As always, we’re just figuring it out together, one step at a time on the road to Tokyo.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast, we kick off a brand new February series focused on what it really means to keep running as the years add up and the miles add character. As more of us find ourselves stepping into the Masters category, we explore how aging changes our training, recovery, and mindset, and why getting older doesn’t mean slowing down but getting smarter. From learning to respect rest days to embracing strength work, mobility, and experience-earned wisdom, we talk about how we adapt, evolve, and continue chasing goals without chasing our younger selves. Because this stage of running isn’t about proving anything, it’s about longevity, community, and still showing up at the start line together. We may have a few more creaks and a slightly longer warmup, but we’re still here, still moving forward, and still very much in the race.

We welcome back Julie Gilmor to preview Run Liberty’s 10th anniversary race day on March 28, 2026—now featuring an all-new 10K. We dig into how the 10K starts with the half at 8 a.m., swings through Seaport, and finishes with the 5K, giving runners fresh scenery without heavy new infrastructure. We clear up the name-and-logo shuffle: the race is now “Run Liberty,” proceeds benefit the Liberty Live Well Foundation, and Liberty Hospital’s new partnership with The University of Kansas Health System strengthens local care. We talk presenting sponsor Give Me Liberty, the America 250 tie-in, and why this nonprofit race keeps 100% of proceeds in the community. Expo fans rejoice: we’re staying at William Jewell, Omni Apparel returns with merch (including an inaugural 10K shirt), and those beloved Liberty gloves live on. We cover medals (6-inch half, 5-inch 10K, 4-inch 5K), generous cutoffs around 16-minute miles, and safety upgrades on the frontage road. Big River Race Management joins the team this year, bringing major-league timing and logistics. We also plug our March 12 Chasing Rabbits Run Club x BOTP four-year party where Run Liberty will be on site with swag and a few race entry giveaways. And yes, we celebrate Fret Row’s eternal lukewarm beer stop and the on-course pass by the TreeHouse, a visible reminder of where dollars go. Hills included, community amplified—register, show up, and we’ll see you at the finish.

We sit down with Randy Taylor—runner, coach, and creator of Team 816 Run Club—for our ten-question Runner Stories spotlight. Randy traces his pivot from the wrestling mat to the roads and trails, and how that competitive grit shaped a coaching style built on consistency, community, and smart stress. He opens up about chasing speed later in life, including a 4:57 mile at age 39 and a 2:40 marathon at Chicago, and how those lessons translate for everyday runners. We dig into the ultra toolbox too: fueling, pacing, and mental resets from a 14:29 hundred at Tunnel Hill and a scorching 3:35 50K on gravel. Randy shares what he looks for when writing plans, the red flags he shuts down early, and the simple cues he gives athletes on workout days vs. easy days. We talk Team 816’s origin story, why group culture beats lone-wolf heroics, and how to welcome first-timers without scaring them off. Most of all, this is a conversation about building durable joy in the sport, whether you’re gunning for a PR or finishing with friends.

We’re heading to Jackson, Mississippi for a deep dive on Run the Rainbow, the growing 50K/Marathon/Half/10K/5K set for Saturday, March 21, 2026. Joining us are the race director, the assistant race director, and the CEO of the state’s only children’s hospital, which this event proudly supports. They walk us through a course that mixes historic neighborhoods, a scenic museum trail, and plenty of honest hills, complete with live bands, themed aid stations about every two miles, and cheers as you pass the hospital itself. You’ll hear how the “Memory Mile” near the finish turns grit into goosebumps, why generous cutoffs and an early start make this event back-of-the-pack friendly, and how no finisher is ever short-changed at the line. We talk post-race fun too: a true Southern spread, coffee, and cookies shaped like Mississippi, with a finish-line party that lasts until the last runner celebrates. The expo brings local shops, other races, and an expert panel on training and fueling. Swag hounds, rejoice: big kid-designed medals, quarter-zips for longer distances, and finisher towels are on deck. From community volunteers to unique prizes (yes, even tires for the champs), it’s an event built by runners who care about runners. If you’re looking for a spring race with heart, hills, and hospitality, this episode is your invitation to Run the Rainbow.

We flipped the script this week on Second Wind: with our guest delayed, Kyle sat in the hot seat and answered our ten signature questions himself. From a decade-plus of start lines and almost 370 finish-line stories, he digs into the run that changed him, the day that nearly broke him, and why he still laces up when motivation goes missing. You’ll hear about the people who shaped his journey, the weird and wonderful moments only runners collect, and what “setback and comeback” looks like from the back of the pack. Kyle talks community, identity, and the quiet wins that matter more than PRs. There’s practical advice for newer runners and a candid look at how the sport evolves alongside life. Think of it as a fireside chat with your favorite race buddy—equal parts honesty, humor, and heart. After you listen, hit us with your own answers to the Big Ten and we’ll share a few on next week’s show!

We’re back this week with a full breakdown of the Battle of the Bean 5K in Kansas City, Missouri, a race that reminded us winter running doesn’t mess around. From the pre-race jitters to frozen fingers at the start line, we recap what it was like to toe the line with a real feel of –1°F. But the race itself is only part of the story. The rest of the episode dives deep into what running in extreme cold actually does to the body. We talk about how sub-zero temperatures affect muscles, joints, breathing, circulation, and overall performance. We explore why pace feels harder than effort suggests, why warming up is such a challenge, and why post-race recovery can be just as tricky as the run itself. We also touch on the mental side of running in brutal conditions and how cold weather forces runners to adjust expectations. This episode isn’t about chasing PRs. It’s about resilience, preparation, and knowing when showing up is the victory. If you’ve ever questioned whether a run was worth it once you stepped outside, this one’s for you.

This week on Second Wind, we’re bringing in Kyle’s buddy Joe Klassen, a pastor with a microphone history and a “let’s do the hard thing” streak that somehow led him straight into CrossFit. Joe shares the moment that sparked his whole transformation, and it’s the kind of story that hits like a kettlebell to the feelings. From there, we get into what it actually looks like to start from zero, rebuild after setbacks, and learn to check your ego at the door when your body isn’t doing what your pride thinks it should. Joe talks about dropping 147 pounds, finding purpose beyond the scale, and why community inside a CrossFit box can feel a lot like the best version of a church. We also get a peek into the weird, wild, and sometimes horrifying side of gym life (yes, there are “earmuffs, kids” moments). But the heart of this episode is simple: becoming the kind of person who can keep showing up, keep moving, and keep being there for the people you love, for decades to come. And because it’s Second Wind, we’ve got plenty of laughs too including “Bless Your Heart” awards, old-man divisions, and a legendary hospital BBQ decision that probably shouldn’t have happened. If you’ve ever wondered whether CrossFit is for “people like us,” this conversation might surprise you. Hit play and come hang with us.

No race weekend in Kansas City? Fine. We made our own chaos. This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast, we’re swapping the usual race recap for a Tokyo Marathon countdown update and a deep dive into the workout that can make or break a cycle: the long run. Kyle takes you to Lexington Lake Park for a “virtual half marathon” powered by laps, a trunk-made aid station, and sheer stubborn consistency. Along the way, we talk confidence when you’re training solo, why time-on-feet might matter more than mileage (especially for us real-life runners), and the myths that need to be tossed straight into the nearest trash can. We also get real about mental endurance, emotional rollercoasters mid-run, and the little “run-walk hacks” that help you stay ahead when time limits are staring you down. Plus, there’s some spicy frustration when a beloved tradition gets its date moved and threatens the podcast’s annual anniversary plans. Don’t worry, we’re adapting like runners do, and the new celebration plan might actually be even better. If you’re training for a spring marathon or just trying to survive winter miles with your sanity intact, this one’s for you. Lace up and come hang with us.

We sit down with runner and American Heart Association advocate Molly McGuire from Muncie, IN, and her story grabs us from the first mile. We open on maternal heart health as Molly explains preeclampsia and HELLP syndrome, the warning signs people miss, and why quick action saves lives. We dig into how grief and survival reshaped her outlook, then pivot to the run: the 50-states quest (45 down), pacing in Indiana, and the Honolulu marathon that made her believe she could go the distance. We laugh about costume runners and Converse-at-the-parade blister mistakes, then get real about New York’s tough day and the 12-week grind back from a wrecked gait. We talk origin stories, the first half that taught her the power of good shoes, and the community she’s built coast to coast—even when the local scene didn’t fit. We celebrate a 100-pound weight-loss journey, labs turning around, and choosing a few miles over a few drinks on stressful days. We shout out the partners and best friends who make these trips possible, and why “your only competition is yourself” might be the best newbie advice we’ve heard. We wrap with Molly’s A-number-one race pick (Key West in January), plus practical takeaways: know the red flags, check your BP, and speak up for the people you love. It’s heart health, hard lessons, and the joy of showing up—Second Wind style.

We kick off 2026 with double race vibes and fresh resolve. We headed to Overland Park for the Hangover Half Marathon, then jumped the timeline to Parkville for the Time Travel 10K, trading late-night confetti for early-morning miles. We talk course feel, start-line energy, and why these New Year races are sneaky-good fitness barometers. There’s honest chatter about rebuilding after a rough 2025, the small wins that signal a comeback, and what “encouraged” actually feels like when you’re clawing back consistency. Then we set our 2026 running goals on air, invite you to do the same, and explain how our goal-card idea will circle back in December. Tokyo prep is officially real, flights booked, fire lit. Hit play for race-day stories, practical momentum, and a community check-in to start the year right.

Happy New Years everyone! 2026 is going to start off with a very special guest! This week on Second Wind, we hand the mic to Lisa Watkins, host of Behind the Bib, whose mantra is simple: do it scared, then do it again. From a first solo half during lockdown to building a fiercely welcoming run community, Lisa shares how showing up—imperfect and honest—can change your running and your life. She lets us peek at a live-wire moment moderating a conversation with a certain legendary mastermind of sufferfests, plus a pacing story that turned nerves into someone else’s breakthrough. We talk tribe over times, vibes over splits, and why a good laugh (and the right friends) can carry you farther than any gel. If you’ve ever wondered whether you “belong” in this sport, Lisa’s answer is a resounding yes—and the way she gets there might surprise you. Come for the stories, stay for the spark to register for the thing that scares you a little.