PODCAST · religion
Belonging Before Believing
by Patrick Mathers
When Jesus encountered those who were not His followers he didn't cast them out or shame them, He told them to come along. Our hope is that if you are someone who has had a hard time with the church or maybe no experience at all, that you would let us answer some questions to put you at ease. There are a lot of bad churches out there and contrary to how they may have made you feel, we believe you belong.
Episodes
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#152 - The 5 Dilemmas of Calvinism
Pat and Nick discuss a short little book called The Five Dilemmas of Calvinism. https://www.instagram.com/belongingbeforebelieving/ https://open.spotify.com/show/1K1Kc8eCOJFfN5TUJHxATs?si=53a1f95970954555 Grace Baptist Church in Oroville: https://gracebaptistoroville.org/
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#151- Evangelism using B.L.E.S.S.
Pat and Nick discuss a method of evangelism using the acronym B.L.E.S.S. based on a book Pat has read. https://www.instagram.com/belongingbeforebelieving/ https://open.spotify.com/show/1K1Kc8eCOJFfN5TUJHxATs?si=53a1f95970954555 Grace Baptist Church in Oroville: https://gracebaptistoroville.org/
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#150- Healthy Church Associations, Churches, and Members
Pat and Nick discuss... something about healthy church associations, churches, and members... I can't really remember what we talked about. https://www.instagram.com/belongingbeforebelieving/ https://open.spotify.com/show/1K1Kc8eCOJFfN5TUJHxATs?si=53a1f95970954555 Grace Baptist Church in…
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#149 - Question Dump: Dispensationalism, Communion, Cults, and KJV Only
Pat and Nick discuss a range of topics including dispensational's and their usual affinity for zionists and the modern state of Israel, communion and how it is traditionally done, how to deal with cults like JW's and Mormons, and a short discussion on the King James Version Only group of people....
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#148 - Climate Change and the Dominion Mandate
Pat and Nick discuss stewardship regarding the dominion mandate and attempt to dispel some of the dogmas around climate change. https://www.instagram.com/belongingbeforebelieving/ https://open.spotify.com/show/1K1Kc8eCOJFfN5TUJHxATs?si=53a1f95970954555 Grace Baptist Church in Oroville:...
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#147 - Why Suffering is a Crucial Part of the Journey
Pat and Nick are again joined by Matt Jones and Isaac Villanueva to discuss, as the episode title says, why suffering is a crucial part of the journey. https://www.instagram.com/belongingbeforebelieving/ https://open.spotify.com/show/1K1Kc8eCOJFfN5TUJHxATs?si=53a1f95970954555 Grace Baptist Church...
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#146 - Why You Should Belong Before You Believe
Pat and Nick are joined by Matt Jones and Isaac Villanueva to discuss why you should belong before you believe, and our personal experiences with finding a sense of belonging. https://www.instagram.com/belongingbeforebelieving/...
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#145 - Formative Spiritual Experiences
Pat and Nick share some of there most formative spiritual experiences. https://www.instagram.com/belongingbeforebelieving/ https://open.spotify.com/show/1K1Kc8eCOJFfN5TUJHxATs?si=53a1f95970954555 Grace Baptist Church in Oroville: https://gracebaptistoroville.org/
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#144 - How To Love Without Affirming
Pat and Nick discuss how to love people without affirming their lifestyles that we may disagree with or don't agree with our own values. https://www.instagram.com/belongingbeforebelieving/ https://open.spotify.com/show/1K1Kc8eCOJFfN5TUJHxATs?si=53a1f95970954555 Grace Baptist Church in Oroville:...
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#143 - Dopamine and Addiction
Pat and Nick discuss how dopamine affects our behaviors and is abused, but also how dopamine is a part of creation and is a good thing. https://www.instagram.com/belongingbeforebelieving/ https://open.spotify.com/show/1K1Kc8eCOJFfN5TUJHxATs?si=53a1f95970954555 Grace Baptist Church in Oroville:...
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#142 - How to Read Your Bible
Pat and Nick discuss how to read your Bible. https://www.instagram.com/belongingbeforebelieving/ https://open.spotify.com/show/1K1Kc8eCOJFfN5TUJHxATs?si=53a1f95970954555 Grace Baptist Church in Oroville: https://gracebaptistoroville.org/
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#141 - What we think about sports
Pat and Nick discuss sports. Neither of us watch or follow sports, but that doesn't stop of from talking about things we probably shouldn't. We discuss the nature of playing sports, what it takes to be a professional athlete, theological categories, and as always ridiculous side conversations....
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#140 - How the Gospel informs our lives
Pat and Nick discuss how the message of Gospel informs how we live our lives. From the people we go to church with to the strangers at the gas pump, the message of the Gospel permeates our attitudes, expectations, and relationships with everyone around us....
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#139 - Being Suspicious of Police
Pat and Nick tackle a touchy subject, whether it is appropriate to be suspicious of the police. The conversation eventually moves into the realm of our relationship with government. https://www.instagram.com/belongingbeforebelieving/...
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#138 - PETA
Pat and Nick discuss how we should treat animals, with a slight reference to the group PETA, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. https://www.instagram.com/belongingbeforebelieving/ https://open.spotify.com/show/1K1Kc8eCOJFfN5TUJHxATs?si=53a1f95970954555 Grace Baptist Church in Oroville:...
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#137 - Can a Christian watch, listen, or read to inappropriate content?
Pat, Nick discuss whether or not christian can consume entertainment with immoral content, and what our guidelines are for what constitutes content we shouldn't watch. https://www.instagram.com/belongingbeforebelieving/ https://open.spotify.com/show/1K1Kc8eCOJFfN5TUJHxATs?si=53a1f95970954555…
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#136 - Can a Christian vote for unbiblical policies and politicians?
Bryan Gumpy returns! Pat, Nick and Bryan discuss how we acts as Christians in a politically secular world. https://www.instagram.com/belongingbeforebelieving/ https://open.spotify.com/show/1K1Kc8eCOJFfN5TUJHxATs?si=53a1f95970954555 Grace Baptist Church in Oroville: https://gracebaptistoroville.org/
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#135 - Dealing with Difficult People
Bryan Gumpy returns! Pat, Nick and Bryan discuss how we deal with difficult people. https://www.instagram.com/belongingbeforebelieving/ https://open.spotify.com/show/1K1Kc8eCOJFfN5TUJHxATs?si=53a1f95970954555 Grace Baptist Church in Oroville: https://gracebaptistoroville.org/
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#134 - Streaming Church
Pat and Nick discuss how streaming church has become a very popular over the past few years since the effects of COVID during 2020. https://www.instagram.com/belongingbeforebelieving/ https://open.spotify.com/show/1K1Kc8eCOJFfN5TUJHxATs?si=53a1f95970954555 Grace Baptist Church in Oroville:...
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#133 - Neurodivergent
Pat and Nick have a short dicsussion on neurodiversity, what it means to be neurodivergent and if this has effect on how effectual the Gospel is. https://www.instagram.com/belongingbeforebelieving/ https://open.spotify.com/show/1K1Kc8eCOJFfN5TUJHxATs?si=53a1f95970954555 Grace Baptist Church in...
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#132 - Bitcoin
It's finally here, Nick gets to talk about his favorite subject while Pat asks the tough questions. We ended up recording this episode on our phone because of Nick forgot the laptop, but the show must go on. https://www.instagram.com/belongingbeforebelieving/...
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#131 - Vibing Positivity
Pat and Nick discuss "Positive Vibes." During a recent trip to Dutch Bros, Pat noticed a sign about positive vibes. We figured it would be worthwhile to talk about this odd cultural notion of how we should all just vibe positivity. https://www.instagram.com/belongingbeforebelieving/...
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#130 - Being Pro-Life
Pat and Nick discuss the upcoming Walk For Life in Oroville. In the spirit of that we discuss why we are pro-life and inevitably share our thoughts on where the church gets this issue wrong and the political failings we see regarding abortion. https://www.instagram.com/belongingbeforebelieving/...
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#129 - Marriage and the Church
Pat and Nick discuss Marriage and the Church and how the relationship between a husband and wife are similar to the relationship between Christ and the Church. https://www.instagram.com/belongingbeforebelieving/ https://open.spotify.com/show/1K1Kc8eCOJFfN5TUJHxATs?si=53a1f95970954555 Grace…
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#128 - Pet Peeves
We think you should get to know us, so we wanted to share with you some personal details about ourselves, specifically our pet peeves. https://www.instagram.com/belongingbeforebelieving/ https://open.spotify.com/show/1K1Kc8eCOJFfN5TUJHxATs?si=53a1f95970954555 Grace Baptist Church in Oroville:...
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#127 - Why did we restart Belonging Before Believing?
Pat and Nick discuss their reasons for wanting to restart this podcast. Join us Sunday morning to worship the Lord: 132 Meyers Street Chico, CA 95928 (Secret Trail Brewing) 9:00 am https://www.sovereignjoycf.org/ https://www.facebook.com/sovereignjoycf https://www.instagram.com/sovereignjoycf/...
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#126 - Discussing our Libertarian leanings
Pat and Nick discuss their politically libertarian perspectives and digress on some of the biblical viewpoints and categories for government and politics. Join us Sunday morning to worship the Lord: 132 Meyers Street Chico, CA 95928 (Secret Trail Brewing) 9:00 am https://www.sovereignjoycf.org/...
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#125 - GMOs, Featuring Mike Willey
We have a special guest joining us today. Mike Willey is an elder at Sovereign Joy and provides his perspective on GMO foods. Join us Sunday morning to worship the Lord: 132 Meyers Street Chico, CA 95928 (Secret Trail Brewing) 9:00 am https://www.sovereignjoycf.org/...
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Shame Culture In The Church
What is shame, and is shame culture a good thing? Pat and Nick discuss what shame is, how it differs from guilt, how society uses shame, how it can be used, and if there is a place for it in the church. Join us Sunday morning to worship the Lord: 132 Meyers Street Chico, CA 95928 (Secret Trail...
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What is money?
Pat and Nick discuss things about money like what the bible says about it and attempting to understand what money even is. Join us Sunday morning to worship the Lord: 132 Meyers Street Chico, CA 95928 (Secret Trail Brewing) 9:00 am https://www.sovereignjoycf.org/...
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What has been formative for us?
Pat and Nick talk the things in their lives that have been most formative. Books, movies, songs, and other random tidbits. Join us Sunday morning to worship the Lord: 132 Meyers Street Chico, CA 95928 (Secret Trail Brewing) 9:00 am https://www.sovereignjoycf.org/...
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Artificial Intelligence and Consciousness
Pat and Nick discuss Artificial Intelligence and Consciousness. Join us Sunday morning to worship the Lord: 132 Meyers Street Chico, CA 95928 (Secret Trail Brewing) 9:00 am https://www.sovereignjoycf.org/ https://www.facebook.com/sovereignjoycf https://www.instagram.com/sovereignjoycf/...
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They Lived How Long in the Bible?!
Pat and Nick discuss the age of some of the Old Testament characters. Believe it or not, the Bible tells us some people lived hundreds of years old!!! Join us Sunday morning to worship the Lord: 132 Meyers Street Chico, CA 95928 (Secret Trail Brewing) 9:00 am https://www.sovereignjoycf.org/...
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Co-Sleeping
Pat and Nick talk about co-sleeping. Why? We don't know. We're still trying to figure out what to talk about. Join us Sunday morning to worship the Lord: 132 Meyers Street Chico, CA 95928 (Secret Trail Brewing) 9:00 am https://www.sovereignjoycf.org/ https://www.facebook.com/sovereignjoycf...
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B.I.B.L.E - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth...?
Pat and Nick discuss Idol worship, what can be an idol and their experiences with idols in their own lives. Join us Sunday morning to worship the Lord: 132 Meyers Street Chico, CA 95928 (Secret Trail Brewing) 9:00 am https://www.sovereignjoycf.org/ https://www.facebook.com/sovereignjoycf...
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Are we supposed to take care of the poor?
Are we supposed to take care of the poor? Patrick Mathers & Bryan Gumpy
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How Bryan Was Right About Chilaquiles
How Bryan Was Right About Chilaquiles Patrick Mathers & Bryan Gumpy
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Jesus Is King
Jesus Is King Patrick Mathers & Bryan Gumpy
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Listening
Listening Patrick Mathers & Bryan Gumpy
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Power to the Peaceful
Power to the Peaceful Patrick Mathers & Bryan Gumpy
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What have you been thinking through lately?
What have you been thinking through lately? Patrick Mathers & Bryan Gumpy
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What are your top 5 favorite inventions?
What are your top 5 favorite inventions? Patrick Mathers & Bryan Gumpy
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What do I look for in a Church?
What do I look for in a church? Patrick Mathers & Bryan Gumpy
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What are the differences between the different "types" of Christianity? How would God view these different types of Christians?
What are the differences between the different "types" of Christianity? How would God view these dif Patrick Mathers & Bryan Gumpy
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What is the deal with Adventists? Does it matter what day of the week you meet?
What is the deal with Adventists? Does it matter what day of the week you meet? Patrick Mathers & Bryan Gumpy
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What is contemplative prayer and should Christians practice it?
What is contemplative prayer and should Christians practice it? Patrick Mathers & Bryan Gumpy
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How can young children or the mentally ill be saved?
How can young children or the mentally ill be saved? Patrick Mathers & Bryan Gumpy
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What's the difference between a pastor and an elder?
What's the difference between a pastor and an elder? Patrick Mathers & Bryan Gumpy
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How should Christians engage with touchy current events like the new abortion laws?
This is NOT another episode on abortion. This is an episode on how to have meaningful conversations with people that we likely disagree with.
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Does patriotism have any place in the Church?
With Memorial Day having just past and Pat with a recent experience at another church, it seems timely to address this question.
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When Jesus encountered those who were not His followers he didn't cast them out or shame them, He told them to come along. Our hope is that if you are someone who has had a hard time with the church or maybe no experience at all, that you would let us answer some questions to put you at ease. There are a lot of bad churches out there and contrary to how they may have made you feel, we believe you belong.
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Patrick Mathers
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