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Beyond Four Walls: Conversations on Affordable Housing

Beyond Four Walls: Conversations on Affordable Housing" is brought to you by the National Housing Conference (NHC), the nation's oldest and broadest coalition of affordable housing leaders in America. During our podcast, we will delve deep into America's pressing housing issues and get to know some of the people that have devoted their lives to seeking tangible, impactful, and achievable solutions. To learn more about NHC and become a member visit nhc.org. Be sure to like this podcast so you don't miss new episodes!

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    Part 2: A Conversation with Ford Foundation's Roy Swan: Building Financial Systems That Create Shared Value

    In this week's episode, we continue our special two-part conversation with Roy Swan, head of the Ford Foundation's Mission Investments team, where he oversees approximately $1.35 billion in impact investments dedicated to advancing social justice and addressing inequality. If you missed Part 1, we encourage you to go back and hear Swan reflect on the personal and professional journey that shaped his approach to leadership, purpose, investing, and positive-sum capitalism. In Part 2, Swan joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to look ahead at the future of capitalism and philanthropy, and the role financial institutions, investors, and philanthropic organizations can play in building a more inclusive economy. They discuss the opportunities and challenges presented by artificial intelligence, what it takes to achieve meaningful systems change, and how racial equity can be more deeply embedded in investment and economic decision-making. Drawing on Swan's decades of experience across finance, community development, and impact investing, the conversation also returns to themes from his new book, "Positive Sum: How Zero-Sum Thinking Broke Capitalism—and How We Can Fix It." Swan explores what a positive-sum approach to capitalism can look like in practice and how rethinking the way we deploy capital and design financial systems can expand opportunity, strengthen communities, and create greater shared prosperity.

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    A Two-Part Conversation with Ford Foundation's Roy Swan: Building Financial Systems That Create Shared Value

    In this week's episode, we're joined by Roy Swan, head of the Ford Foundation's Mission Investments team, where he oversees approximately $1.35 billion in impact investments dedicated to advancing social justice and addressing inequality. With decades of experience spanning housing, community development, finance, investing, and law, Swan has built a career around deploying capital to strengthen communities and expand economic opportunity. In Part 1 of this special two-part conversation, Swan joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to discuss the personal and professional experiences that shaped his approach to leadership, purpose, and investing. From serving as the founding Chief Investment Officer of New York City's Upper Manhattan Empowerment Zone and helping drive the economic revitalization of Harlem, to overseeing more than $13 billion in community development investments as Co-Head of Global Sustainable Finance at Morgan Stanley, Swan reflects on the lessons that have guided his career and his work at the Ford Foundation. They also explore the ideas behind Swan's new book, Positive Sum: How Zero-Sum Thinking Broke Capitalism—and How We Can Fix It, including how moving beyond zero-sum thinking can create greater economic opportunity and shared prosperity, and what it means to effectively measure social impact.

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    Mayor Todd Gloria on building more housing and improving affordability

    In this week's episode, we're joined by San Diego Mayor Todd Gloria, a lifelong public servant and current president of the U.S. Conference of Mayors who has made tackling the housing affordability crisis the defining priority of his administration. Guided by lessons from his working-class upbringing and a commitment to "leave things better than you found them," Mayor Gloria has led one of the nation's most ambitious local housing agendas while helping elevate housing affordability as a national priority.   Mayor Gloria joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to discuss how San Diego is increasing housing production, the policies and leadership strategies that have nearly doubled the city's annual housing output, and why durable, bipartisan policymaking and streamlined permitting are essential to addressing the nation's housing shortage. They also explore the role local, state, and federal governments must play in expanding housing supply and why continued innovation and implementation will be critical to making housing more affordable for future generations.

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    From the Banking Crisis to the Insurance Crisis: Teresa Bryce Bazemore on the Future of Housing

    In this week's episode, we're joined by Teresa Bryce Bazemore, a nationally respected housing finance leader whose more than 35-year career has spanned mortgage banking, mortgage insurance, financial services, corporate governance, and risk management. From leading major financial institutions through periods of unprecedented market disruption to serving on the boards of some of the nation's leading financial organizations, Bazemore has helped shape the future of housing finance while advancing solutions that strengthen housing opportunity and financial stability. Bazemore joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to discuss how lessons learned from leading through periods of financial instability can inform today's housing policy and the future of housing finance. They also examine the growing role insurance plays in the housing affordability crisis, why rising premiums, shrinking coverage, and increasing financial pressures are creating new challenges for homeowners, renters, lenders, and housing providers alike, and how NHC's Residential Property Insurance Collaborative (RPIC) is bringing together leaders from the housing and insurance sectors to develop practical solutions that improve affordability, resiliency, and long-term market stability. 

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    SAHF's Theresa Dumais on resident services, preservation, and affordable housing

    In this week's episode, we're joined by Theresa Finney Dumais, President and CEO of Stewards of Affordable Housing for the Future (SAHF), a national collaborative of nonprofit affordable housing providers that owns and operates more than 160,000 affordable rental homes across the country. Throughout her career spanning affordable housing development, Capitol Hill, housing finance, and nonprofit leadership, Dumais brings a unique perspective on the policies and partnerships needed to expand housing opportunity across the country. Dumais sits down with NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to discuss why preserving affordable housing is just as important as building new supply and how resident services strengthen both communities and property performance. They also explore the findings from SAHF's groundbreaking research on resident services, the implementation of the newly enacted 21st Century ROAD to Housing Act, and the critical role policymakers, housing providers, and investors must play in expanding housing opportunity and ensuring the long-term resilience of the nation's affordable housing stock.

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    At the center of change: Debra Still's four decades shaping mortgage finance

    In this week's episode, we welcome Debra Still, retired CEO and Vice Chair of Pulte Financial Services and a recipient of NHC's 2026 Housing Visionary Award, which will be presented at NHC's Annual Gala on June 24 at The Anthem in Washington, D.C.   For more than four decades, Debra has been a leading voice in mortgage finance, helping guide the industry through periods of growth, disruption, and transformation. She joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin for a conversation on leadership, housing affordability, the future of homeownership, and the growing role of AI in housing finance.   Drawing on her experience leading through events such as 9/11, the 2008 financial crisis, and the COVID-19 pandemic, Still reflects on the lessons she learned navigating change, breaking barriers, and helping shape housing policy and finance over the course of her distinguished career.

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    Communicating Before, During, and After a Natural Disaster

    On April 8, the National Housing Conference hosted its Solutions for Housing Communications convening at the National Press Club. The event brought together policymakers and affordable housing stakeholders to discuss tangible, impactful, and achievable actions to address the nation's most critical housing policy challenges. In today's episode, we revisit the panel, "Communicating Before, During, and After a Natural Disaster," featuring a discussion on how to communicate clearly and credibly before, during, and after a disaster. Panelists share practical messaging strategies, discuss common communication pitfalls, and offer guidance on reaching residents, policymakers, and the media at each stage of a disaster. Panelists included Marion McFadden, Vice President of Disaster Recovery at IEM; Michael Newman, General Counsel at the Insurance Institute for Business & Home Safety; Angie Garling, Senior Vice President, National ECE at LIIF; and Jessie Handforth Kome, Director at CohnReznick.

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    Three Decades of Change: Rocket's Bill Emerson on Leadership, Innovation, and the Future of Mortgage Lending

    In this week's episode, we welcome Bill Emerson, Board Member of Rocket Companies and a recipient of this year's Housing Visionary Award, which will be presented at NHC's annual Gala on June 24 at The Anthem in Washington, DC. After more than three decades in the mortgage industry, Emerson joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to discuss the lessons he's learned leading through periods of rapid growth, market disruption, and economic uncertainty. Drawing on experience from nearly every level of the business, Emerson shares insights on leadership, organizational culture, risk management, and the evolving future of housing finance.

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    How Mary K. Simkhovitch shaped the affordable housing movement

    In this week's episode, we're joined by acclaimed historian and author Betty Boyd Caroli, a Fulbright scholar whose career has spanned topics from immigration to the lives of America's First Ladies.  Her latest book, "A Slumless America: Mary K. Simkhovitch and the Dream of Affordable Housing," shines a light on a visionary reformer whose name isn't widely known—Mary Kingsbury Simkhovitch. Founder of the National Housing Conference, Simkhovitch was a pioneering force in the fight for safe, decent, and affordable housing. At a time when American cities were facing rapid growth and stark inequality, she worked tirelessly to build stronger communities and push for lasting change—impact that still resonates today. Caroli joins NHC's President and CEO David Dworkin to discuss the life and legacy of Mary K. Simkhovitch and what her work can teach us about today's housing challenges.  

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    Housing affordability challenges and solutions with Habitat's Jonathan Reckford

    In this week's episode, we're joined by Jonathan Reckford, CEO of Habitat for Humanity, the global housing nonprofit that has helped more than 62 million people build, rehabilitate, or preserve their homes. Under Reckford's leadership, the organization has grown dramatically expanding from serving about 125,000 people each year to reaching more than 3 million annually. Reckford sits down with NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to reflect on Habitat's 50-year impact and how it's addressing today's housing affordability crisis. They discuss key policy priorities, bipartisan legislation, and the proposed Homeownership Supply Accelerator, exploring what it will take to boost starter home supply, expand access to homeownership, and drive meaningful change through advocacy.  

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    How CONVERGENCE is expanding homeownership in Central Ohio and nationwide

    In this week's episode, NHC President and CEO David Dworkin talks with Wendy Penn, Vice President of Affordable Housing Initiatives at the Mortgage Bankers Association, and Anna Teye-Kasongo, Assistant Executive Director at the Affordable Housing Alliance of Central Ohio, about CONVERGENCE—MBA's initiative to expand homeownership by leveraging the collective strength of community partners. Penn shares how the initiative is advancing collaboration and solutions at the national level, while Teye-Kasongo discusses how those efforts are playing out locally in Central Ohio. CONVERGENCE brings together lenders, industry leaders, and government partners to drive collective action and develop new solutions to the nation's rental and housing affordability challenges. By taking a unified approach, the initiative works to promote more sustainable and affordable housing options for both homeownership and rental, with a particular focus on supporting underserved people and communities.

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    The state of the rental housing market with Bob Pinnegar, President and CEO, NAA

    In this week's episode, we welcome Robert Pinnegar, President and CEO of the National Apartment Association, the leading voice for the rental housing industry committed to serving 139 state and local affiliates, nearly 113,000 members representing more than 13.5 million apartment homes.   Pinnegar sits down with NHC's President and CEO David Dworkin to discuss the state of today's rental housing market, long-term impact of underinvesting in housing supply for renters, and why expanding multifamily housing is one of the fastest ways to ease the shortage. They also discuss the policy solutions, including efforts to address the growing housing insurance crisis, that could unlock new construction.

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    Exploring gentrification and homeownership with CFA's Sharon Cornelissen

    In this week's episode, NHC President and CEO David Dworkin sits down with Sharon Cornelissen, Director of Housing at the Consumer Federation of America, and author of Last House on the Block: Black Homeowners, White Homesteaders, and Failed Gentrification in Detroit Cornelissen joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to discuss her new book, which explores what happens when White newcomers move into predominantly Black neighborhoods, challenges assumptions about whether gentrification is inevitable, and focuses on the lived experiences of long-term Black homeowners navigating neighborhood change.

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    Ending Homelessness: Successful Strategies for Sustainable Results

    On December 3, the National Housing Conference hosted its Solutions for Affordable Housing convening at the National Press Club. The event brought together policymakers and affordable housing stakeholders to discuss tangible, impactful, and achievable actions to address the nation's most critical housing policy challenges. In today's episode, we revisit the panel, "Ending Homelessness: Successful Strategies for Sustainable Results," featuring a discussion on the evolving dialogue on homelessness. Panelists share insights on what's working, where gaps remain, and how stronger alignment across systems can lead to more effective, sustainable support for individuals and families facing homelessness. Panelists included Kathryn Monet, CEO of the National Coalition for Homeless Veterans; Tramecia Garner, Executive Director of Swords to Plowshares; Neal Rackleff, Executive VP and COO of the Houston Housing Authority; and Julia Lightfoot, Executive Director for Clean and Sober Streets.  

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    From campus to policy: tackling the student housing crisis

    In this week's episode, NHC President and CEO David Dworkin sits down with Kate Rodgers, Chair and Policy Director of the Student HOMES Coalition, to explore the growing student housing crisis and the power of youth-led advocacy in shaping housing policy. Kate shares her journey from legislative advocacy as a UCLA freshman to becoming a leading voice in statewide student housing reform. Together, they discuss why access to safe, affordable housing is foundational to student success and how rising housing costs, restrictive regulations, and community resistance are pushing more students into housing insecurity and homelessness.

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    NHC leaders reflect on 2025 and what's ahead for housing in 2026

    In this week's episode, NHC President and CEO David Dworkin joins NHC Chair Ali Solis and Vice Chair Ralph Perrey to reflect on the key policy priorities and developments that shaped NHC's work in 2025 and discuss what they mean for the housing challenges and opportunities ahead in 2026. Ali Solis, Principal at S3-Solis Strategic Solutions, is a housing industry veteran in Washington, DC, having held important leadership roles at Enterprise Community Partners, NeighborWorks® America, and Make Room. Ralph Perrey is the Executive Director of the Tennessee Housing Development Agency and the longest serving executive director in the agency's history.  

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    A conversation with Congressman Mike Flood (R-NE)

    On December 3, 2025, the National Housing Conference (NHC) hosted our Solutions for Affordable Housing convening at the National Press Club in Washington, DC. In this week's episode, we revisit the convening's fireside chat between NHC's President and CEO David Dworkin and Congressman Mike Flood (R-NE), Chairman of the Housing and Insurance Subcommittee of the House Financial Services Committee, where they discussed his bipartisan work on the HOME Reform Act, ongoing negotiations around major housing legislation, the path forward for the Enterprises, and the status of government funding.

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    A conversation with Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)

    On December 3, 2025, the National Housing Conference (NHC) hosted our Solutions for Affordable Housing convening at the National Press Club in Washington, DC. In this week's episode, we revisit the convening's fireside chat between NHC's President and CEO David Dworkin and Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), Ranking Member of the Senate Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs Committee, where they discussed the evolving role of the federal government in shaping America's housing landscape and what it will take to tackle the supply crisis facing communities nationwide. They also touched on the future of consumer protections and the role of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

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    WNC's Will Cooper, Jr., talks housing vouchers, supply, and labor shortages

    In this week's episode, we welcome Wilfred N. Cooper, Jr., President and CEO of WNC, a pioneer in the affordable housing space having acquired over $20 billion in affordable rental properties to create and preserve more than 1,700 communities across 49 states. Cooper is also the co-founder and President of the Cooper Housing Institute, a private foundation that supports innovative research, public awareness initiatives, and community organizations with the goal of ending the housing affordability and homelessness crises in the United States. Cooper joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to dive into a wide range of issues—from the Cooper Housing Institute's recent research with the Terner Center and RAND Corporation on improving Housing Choice Voucher utilization, to the nation's escalating housing supply crisis and the role zoning, environmental laws, and financing barriers play in limiting production. They also examine how workforce-focused proposals like the DIGNITY Act and the CONSTRUCTS Act could help address construction labor shortages and support much-needed housing development.  

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    Urban Institute's Janneke Ratcliffe on what the data reveals about affordable housing, homelessness, and opportunity

    In this week's episode, we welcome Janneke Ratcliffe, Vice President for the Housing and Communities Division at the Urban Institute, a nonprofit research organization that has been providing data and evidence to help advance upward mobility and equity for more than 50 years. Over a career that spans industry, the nonprofit sector, academic research, and the federal government, her work focuses on increasing access to financial systems that foster economic security and prosperity. Ratcliffe joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to discuss the roots of America's housing crisis—from supply shortages and rising costs to barriers in Black homeownership—emphasizing that housing affordability is the strongest predictor of homelessness.

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    Anywhere's Liz Gehringer talks innovation, affordability, and the future of homebuying

    In this week's episode we welcome Liz Gehringer, President and CEO of Anywhere Franchise Brands, where she leads strategic growth, marketing, and operations for some of the real estate industry's most iconic names—Coldwell Banker Affiliates, Coldwell Banker Commercial, Better Homes and Gardens Real Estate, CENTURY 21, and ERA Real Estate. Gehringer joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to discuss how Anywhere is reimagining the homebuying experience through innovation, expanding access to affordable homeownership, and using technology and AI to empower agents and enhance client relationships.

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    Revitalizing homes, strengthening communities: A conversation with NCST's Christopher Tyson

    In this week's episode we welcome Christopher Tyson, President of the National Community Stabilization Trust (NCST), where he leads the organization's efforts to expand affordable homeownership by lending capital to revitalize vacant single-family homes, advocating for policy innovation and reform, and facilitating transactions that strengthen the single-family housing supply and stabilize neighborhoods. Since 2008, NCST has facilitated the transfer of more than 28,000 homes, and collaborated with local practitioners to stabilize neighborhoods and increase housing supply across the nation. Tyson joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to discuss how NCST is addressing the affordable housing shortage while supporting local organizations to rehabilitate distressed homes and sustain long-term neighborhood stability. They also discuss the barriers to scaling rehabilitation nationwide and how NCST is working through partnerships and policy solutions to overcome them. 

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    Pretium Founder & CEO Don Mullen on institutional investment's role in the future of U.S. housing

    In this week's episode we welcome Don Mullen, Founder and Chief Executive Officer of Pretium, a specialized investment firm focused on U.S. residential real estate – including single-family rentals and build-to-rent housing – residential credit, and corporate credit. With a platform managing nearly $60 billion in assets, Pretium's portfolio spans nearly 90 markets nationwide and includes ~90,000 single-family homes under management. The firm is also a leader in the build to rent space, having acquired 7,500 single family homes built as rental housing.    Mullen joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to explore the role of institutional ownership in single-family rentals, the rise of build-to-rent communities, and how Pretium is leveraging scale, strategy, and technology—including artificial intelligence—to expand access to workforce and affordable housing.

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    Addressing homelessness through community health and street medicine

    In this week's episode, NHC President and CEO David Dworkin sits down with Joseph Becerra, a true pioneer and changemaker in street medicine and community health, whom he had the privilege of shadowing in the field in Los Angeles. Becerra, the original community health worker and co-founder of USC Street Medicine, recounts his remarkable journey from over fifteen years of homelessness to becoming a Certified Addiction Treatment Counselor, Clinical Supervisor, and Gang Interventionist. He reflects on his lifelong commitment to serving underserved communities, incarcerated individuals, and at-risk youth, while using his expertise to expand health care and support for unsheltered populations.  

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    Housing policy, credit scores & the future of mortgages with Lennar Mortgage's President Laura Escobar

    In this week's episode we welcome Laura Escobar, President of Lennar Mortgage, the lending arm of the nation's largest homebuilder, Lennar Corporation. With more than 37 years of experience in mortgage banking, Escobar has led at every level — from branch management to executive leadership — in both bank-owned and independent mortgage companies and currently serves as the 2025 Chair of the Mortgage Bankers Association.   Escobar joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to discuss the Senate's ROAD to Housing bill, FHFA's roll out of alternative credit scores, the growing challenges of homeowners insurance, and how AI is reshaping mortgage finance.

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    The future of affordable senior housing with SKA Marin's Sydelle Knepper

    In this week's episode we welcome Sydelle Knepper, Founder and CEO of SKA Marin, a renowned firm recognized for its impactful contributions to real estate and community development across New York and beyond. With more than 30 years of experience, Knepper brings unmatched expertise in both the private and public sectors, having overseen more than a billion dollars in constructed project value.  Knepper joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin discuss the future of affordable senior housing, the evolving demand, and the critical connection between housing and healthcare. Together, they examine the role of Section 8 vouchers and explore how public-private partnerships can help meet the growing needs of older adults.

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    LIIF's Dan Nissenbaum discusses how CDFIs drive affordable housing and economic opportunity

    In this week's episode, we welcome Dan Nissenbaum, CEO of the Low Income Investment Fund (LIIF), a renowned, national Community Development Financial Institution (CDFI) that has invested over $3.5 billion in transformative projects creating opportunities for low-income individuals and communities. Nissenbaum joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to discuss how CDFIs differ from traditional banks and lenders and explores how LIIF leverages tax credits, innovative financing tools, and strategic partnerships to expand access to affordable housing, drive economic empowerment, and revitalize neighborhoods.

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    Data and AI's role in housing with Cotality's President and CEO Patrick Dodd

    In this week's episode, we welcome Patrick Dodd, President and CEO of Cotality, formerly known as CoreLogic. Cotality uses real-time property data and insights to help agents, lenders, insurers, and innovators uncover risks, seize opportunities, and drive meaningful impact across the property ecosystem. Dodd joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to discuss how Cotality is redefining its role in the housing ecosystem and addressing today's housing trends—from the impact of rising interest rates and insurance costs to how AI is reshaping the property and housing industry, and what it all means for younger generations striving to achieve homeownership.

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    Michael Novogradac talks housing tax incentives and Opportunity Zones

    In this week's episode, we welcome Michael Novogradac, Managing Partner of Novogradac, a national professional services firm with deep expertise in tax policy, affordable housing, community development, historic preservation, and opportunity zones. He is a recognized voice in national policy discussions, having testified before Congress and contributed insights to agencies like the U.S. Treasury and the IRS. His commentary is regularly featured in major outlets like The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, Politico, CNBC, and NPR. Novogradac joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to explore the current state and future outlook of housing and community development tax incentives, while offering valuable insights into the evolving landscape of Opportunity Zones.

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    How state HFAs are addressing the affordable housing shortage

    In this week's episode, NHC President and CEO David Dworkin talks with Amy Hovey, Executive Director & CEO of the Michigan State Housing Development Authority, and Robin Wiessmann, Executive Director and CEO of the Pennsylvania Housing Finance Agency, to discuss how housing finance agencies are addressing the affordable housing shortage in their states.  Amy Hovey is the first woman to lead the Michigan State Housing Development Authority. With more than 20 years of experience across government, philanthropy, and the private sector, Amy has built a career rooted in community development and revitalization—from her work in Flint with the Charles Stewart Mott Foundation to her time in Washington, D.C. as senior vice president and CEO of the Center for Community Progress. Robin Wiessmann has a wealth of experience spanning public service and high-level finance. She previously served as Pennsylvania's State Treasurer and the state's Secretary of Banking and Securities. As a national infrastructure investment banker, Wiessmann was a Founding Principal and President of Artemis Capital Group, the first women-owned investment banking firm on Wall Street, and held positions at Goldman Sachs and Merrill Lynch.    

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    NAR's Shannon McGahn talks navigating Washington for housing solutions

    In this week's episode, we welcome Shannon McGahn, Executive Vice President and Chief Advocacy Officer, of the National Association of REALTORS®, which represents over 1.5 million members across every zip code in the U.S. involved in residential and commercial real estate. With nearly 25 years in government and public affairs, she has led major legislative efforts, from guiding the House Financial Services Committee during the financial crisis to helping pass the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act as counselor to the U.S. Treasury Secretary. McGahn joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to discuss how NAR is navigating Washington's political landscape to advocate for increased affordable housing supply and access to homeownership, while also working to address housing challenges at the local level.  

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    Former Senator Mel Martinez talks housing policy, bipartisanship, and the path forward

    In this week's episode, we welcome Mel Martinez, former U.S. Senator and former Secretary for the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development and an upcoming recipient of NHC's Carl A.S. Coan, Sr., Lifetime Achievement Award for Public Service at our annual Gala on Wednesday, June 11.   As the first Cuban American elected to the U.S. Senate, Senator Martinez brought a powerful voice to issues like economic development, housing policy, and international relations. He also served as the 12th U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, where he focused on expanding homeownership opportunities for low- and moderate-income families across the country.   Senator Martinez joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to discuss his remarkable journey from public service to business leadership, his insights on bipartisan policymaking, and the future of housing in America.  

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    Reimagining public housing: a conversation with Renee Lewis Glover

    In this week's episode, we welcome Renee Lewis Glover, Founder and Managing Member of The Catalyst Group, LLC, and an upcoming recipient of NHC's Housing Visionary Award at our annual Gala on June 11. A purpose-driven thought leader and accomplished business executive with deep expertise in housing affordability, Glover gained international recognition during her 19-year tenure as CEO of the Atlanta Housing Authority, where she transformed the public housing model into a master-planned, mixed-income community model. Glover joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to discuss building public-private partnerships that drive real change and shifting the national conversation on affordable housing and community development.

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    NAHB's Jim Tobin discusses tariffs, regulations, and immigration's impact on housing

    In this week's episode, we welcome Jim Tobin, President and CEO of the National Association of Home Builders, which represents the largest network of craftsmen, innovators, and problem solvers, with over 700 state and local associations and more than 140,000 members. With more than 20 years of association leadership and housing policy background, Jim has played a key role in shaping legislation and addressing the industry's evolving challenges. Tobin joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to discuss how tariffs and federal, state, and local regulatory burdens are impacting housing costs and supply, the role of immigration policy in addressing labor shortages, and the actions NAHB is taking to address these issues.  

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    Unlocking Latino homeownership with UnidosUS' Laura Arce

    In this week's episode, we welcome Laura Arce, Senior Vice President for Economic Initiatives at UnidosUS, a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization that serves as the nation's largest Hispanic civil rights and advocacy organization. She is the architect of the Home Ownership Means Equity (HOME) Initiative, a multi-year movement using policy, research, communications, and community-based strategies to influence systemic change toward the goal of four million new Latino homeowners by the end of this decade. Arce joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to explore how the organization is evolving to meet the changing needs of the Latino community, from expanding homeownership and economic opportunity to tackling climate change and immigration reform.  

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    NFHA's Lisa Rice on Civil Rights and Housing Justice

    In this week's episode, we welcome Lisa Rice, President and CEO of the National Fair Housing Alliance, the nation's only national civil rights agency solely dedicated to eliminating all forms of housing discrimination. She has been instrumental in shaping fair housing policy, helping create the CFPB's Office of Fair Lending and contributing to the Dodd-Frank Act. She has also led groundbreaking investigations that have brought justice to countless individuals impacted by discriminatory lending and housing practices.    Rice joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to reflect on how history—particularly America's legacy of slavery and systemic discrimination—continues to shape housing access and equity today. She shares her early inspiration for civil rights work, the pivotal role of the Fair Housing Act, and the ongoing challenges of addressing inequality.  

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    Unlocking Affordable Housing Solutions: How Member Banks Leverage Federal Home Loan Banks

    On February 11th, the National Housing Conference, in partnership with the Federal Home Loan Bank of San Fransisco and the Council of the Federal Home Loan Banks hosted "Federal Home Loan Banks: Shaping the Future of Affordable Housing and Community Investment" at the National Press Club. This event offered a comprehensive exploration of the Federal Home Loan Banks (FHLBanks) and their mission to provide liquidity to member financial institutions to support housing and community investment. In today's episode, we revisit the panel, "Unlocking Affordable Housing Solutions: How Member Banks Leverage Federal Home Loan Banks", which explores today's utilization of the FHLBanks, the various programs offered by them and the resulting impact on housing and community development. Panelists included Jill Cetina, Mays Business School, Texas A&M University, Aaron Klein, Brookings Institution, Joe Pigg, American Bankers Association, and Stockton Williams, National Council of State Housing Agencies. 

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    Bill McBride of the CalculatedRisk blog talks economic trends, mortgage rates, & housing policy

    In this week's episode, we welcome Bill McBride, Founder and Writer of the CalculatedRisk Blog, a resource widely cited by economists as a go-to for understanding housing trends. McBride has been breaking down housing trends since 2005, accurately predicting the housing bubble and market shifts long before they happened. Dubbed "the genius who invented economics blogging" by Business Insider, McBride joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to discuss economic trends, housing policy, and the state of the housing market.

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    ANDP's John O'Callaghan on the Power of Public-Private Partnerships and homeownership

    In this week's episode, we welcome John O'Callaghan, President and CEO of the Atlanta Neighborhood Development Partnership, which develops, finances, and advocates for affordable housing at scale that promotes racial equity and healthy communities where families thrive. As metro Atlanta's leading nonprofit producer of affordable homes for purchase, focused on closing the racial homeownership gap, O'Callaghan joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to discuss policy changes and funding mechanisms needed to expand homeownership and the role of public-private partnerships in scaling affordable housing.

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    Heirs' Property and the Preservation of Generational Wealth

    On December 4, the National Housing Conference hosted its Solutions for Affordable Housing convening at the National Press Club. The event brought together policymakers and affordable housing stakeholders to discuss tangible, impactful, and achievable actions to address the nation's most critical housing policy challenges.    In today's episode, we revisit the panel, "Heirs' Property and the Preservation of Generational Wealth," which explores the historical and systemic barriers that have led to significant disparities in homeownership rates including issues around appraisal bias, redlining, and heirs' property that have led to vulnerabilities in property rights and wealth retention. Panelists included Abigail Suarez, JPMorganChase; Reggie O'Shields, Federal Home Loan Bank of Atlanta; Maria Evans, Fannie Mae; Thomas Mitchell, Boston College of Law; and Natasha Moodie, Housing Assistance Council.

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    A Conversation with Matt Cullen, former executive of Dan Gilbert's Family of Companies

    In this week's episode, we welcome Matt Cullen, Chairman of JACK Entertainment and a former executive who led gaming, real estate, and other initiatives for Dan Gilbert's Family of Companies. Matt's career spans decades of impactful leadership, from overseeing GM's 450-million-square-foot global real estate portfolio to spearheading Detroit's riverfront transformation and revitalizing urban landscapes in both Detroit and Cleveland.    From revitalizing neighborhoods to tackling economic and environmental challenges, Cullen joins NHC's President and CEO to discuss Detroit's economic recovery and offers valuable lessons for other cities looking to build a stronger future.

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    A Conversation with Ann Oliva, National Alliance to End Homelessness

    In this week's episode, we welcome Ann Oliva, CEO of the National Alliance to End Homelessness, a public education, advocacy, and capacity-building organization dedicated to ending homelessness in the United States. A career veteran of homelessness and housing policy, she is recognized as one of the foremost experts on homelessness in the nation.  Oliva joins NHC's President and CEO David Dworkin for a conversation on the state of homelessness in America exploring the biggest challenges, key opportunities, and real solutions that can drive meaningful change.

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    A Conversation with Ed Brady, Home Builders Institute

    In this week's episode, we welcome Ed Brady, President and CEO of the Home Builders Institute, which has been training and educating America's home construction workforce for more than 50 years. Brady is a sought after thought leader in the housing industry, home building, and workforce development space with decades of experience and leadership. Brady joins NHC's President and CEO David Dworkin to discuss the challenges and opportunities in the homebuilding and construction space to help address the country's affordable housing shortage.

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    A Conversation with Sharon Wilson Géno, National Multifamily Housing Council

    In this week's episode, we welcome Sharon Wilson Géno, President of the National Multifamily Housing Council, which represents rental owners, managers, developers, and suppliers who provide rental homes for 40 million Americans. A 30-year veteran of the housing industry, Géno has led efforts across for-profit and nonprofit sectors to tackle housing affordability, community development, and policy challenges.   Géno joins NHC's President and CEO David Dworkin to discuss the challenges and opportunities within the rental housing industry to help address the country's affordable housing shortage. 

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    A Fireside Chat with Senator Mark Warner (D-Va.)

    On December 4, 2024, the National Housing Conference (NHC) hosted our Solutions for Affordable Housing convening at the National Press Club in Washington, DC. In this week's episode, we revisit the convening's fireside chat between NHC's President and CEO David Dworkin and Senator Mark Warner (D-VA), where they discuss housing policy, bipartisan collaboration in a highly partisan Congress, and economic development issues.  During his time in the Senate, Senator Warner has established himself as a bipartisan leader who works across the aisle to accomplish sustainable solutions to America's most important challenges. He has served as a key supporter of several pieces of critical legislation addressing today's affordable housing shortage, including cosponsoring the Affordable Housing Credit Improvement Act and the Neighborhood Homes Investment Act, as well as a long-time leader and advocate for the New Markets Tax Credit.

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    A Conversation with Congresswoman Debbie Dingell (D-MI)

    On December 4, 2024, the National Housing Conference (NHC) hosted our "Solutions for Affordable Housing" convening at the National Press Club in Washington, DC. In this week's episode, we revisit the convening's fireside chat between NHC's President and CEO David Dworkin and Congresswoman Debbie Dingell (D-MI), where they address the election, the future of the Democratic party, prospects for bipartisanship in a highly partisan political environment, and whether the affordable housing crisis can bring the parties together around real solutions. 

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    A Conversation with Bill Emerson, Rocket Companies

    In this week's episode, we welcome Bill Emerson, President of Rocket Companies. With a career spanning over two decades at Rocket and its related businesses, Bill brings a wealth of experience in leadership, strategic planning, and navigating economic cycles. From serving as CEO of Rocket Mortgage for 15 years to his recent role as Interim CEO of Rocket Companies, Bill has played a pivotal role in shaping the company's culture and growth.  Emerson joins NHC's President and CEO David Dworkin to discuss the evolution of the mortgage industry over the past 30 years, highlighting positive transformations as well as emerging opportunities and challenges. They also cover Rocket Companies' significant role in Detroit's economic recovery.

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    A Conversation with Bob Broeksmit, Mortgage Bankers Association

    In this week's episode, we welcome Bob Broeksmit, President and CEO of the Mortgage Bankers Association, which represents the mortgage finance industry. A senior finance executive and corporate officer with a 35-year career in the mortgage sector, he has directed all aspects of lending activities, including marketing, sales, operations, secondary marketing, loan servicing, and default management.  Broeksmit joins NHC's President and CEO David Dworkin to discuss the challenges and opportunities in lending, servicing, and navigating industry regulations to help address the shortage of affordable housing in the country.

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    A Conversation with Adrianne Todman, HUD Agency Head

    In this week's episode, we welcome HUD Agency Head Adrianne Todman. During her tenure at HUD, she is focused on key priorities, including increasing housing supply, improving disaster response, advancing climate resilience, and enhancing access to HUD programs. Todman joins NHC's President and CEO David Dworkin to discuss HUD's efforts to address the nation's affordable housing shortage from the Community Development Block Grant program to the Housing Choice Voucher program to home appraisal bias, among other topics. She also reflects on how her decades of experience as an advocate in affordable housing and community development is helping her address the ongoing challenges related to affordable housing availability.

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    The Future of Housing Policy Under a New Administration

    In this week's episode, NHC President and CEO David Dworkin talks with Sarah Brundage, President and CEO of the National Association of Affordable Housing Lenders, and Gisele Roget, Founding Principal of Overbrook Square Group, to discuss the future of housing policy in President Trump's administration and beyond.   Gisele Roget, a veteran of the first Trump administration, has held influential roles leading teams and directing policy in Washington, DC, becoming the first Black woman to lead the Office of External Affairs for a federal depository regulator with her appointment as Deputy Chief of Staff for the National Credit Union Administration. Prior to joining NCUA, she led the Office of Single-Family Housing of the Federal Housing Administration.   Sarah Brundage is a housing industry veteran having served as a Senior Policy Advisor on the Biden-Harris administration's Domestic Policy Council at the White House. She also served as Senior Advisor for Housing Supply and Infrastructure at the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development.   Join David, Sarah, and Gisele as they discuss how the election's outcome may affect housing issues over the next four years.       

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Beyond Four Walls: Conversations on Affordable Housing" is brought to you by the National Housing Conference (NHC), the nation's oldest and broadest coalition of affordable housing leaders in America. During our podcast, we will delve deep into America's pressing housing issues and get to know some of the people that have devoted their lives to seeking tangible, impactful, and achievable solutions. To learn more about NHC and become a member visit nhc.org. Be sure to like this podcast so you don't miss new episodes!

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