Beyond The Science Podcast

In this special Mother’s Day episode of Beyond the Science, we honor the women who carried us through life with love, sacrifice, strength, and grace.We welcome our mothers onto the show for an honest and emotional conversation about motherhood, family, faith, resilience, and the sacrifices that shaped our lives.Filled with laughter, gratitude, tears, and reflection, this episode is a celebration of the women whose love held everything together — even during the hardest seasons.Together, we reflect on:The sacrifices our mothers made behind the scenes Growing up through difficult times The strength and beauty of Black motherhood Faith, resilience, and family values Emotional conversations between sons and mothers Lessons passed down through generations Gratitude for the women who gave us everything Happy Mother’s Day to every woman whose love became the foundation for someone else’s life.Timestamps (00:00) – Mother’s Day Special Introduction (02:03) – Mothers’ Introductions & Personal Journeys (09:56) – The Challenges of Motherhood (14:39) – Celebrating Their Children’s Achievements (17:36) – Sons Reflect on Their Mothers’ Sacrifices (24:23) – Moments of Struggle & Sacrifice (31:39) – Straight Talk with Mom (36:45) – Favorite Family Traditions & Holidays (41:46) – Reflections on Motherhood, Legacy & Faith (46:04) – Advice for Other Mothers (52:48) – Final Reflections & Mother’s Day Message#BeyondTheScience #MothersDaySpecial #BlackMotherhood #MotherhoodJourney #FamilyLegacy #FaithAndFamily #MentalHealthConversations #EntrepreneurMindset #PersonalGrowth #PodcastClips

Is AI about to change behavior analysis forever?In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Adam Ventura, founder of Intraverbal AI, to unpack what’s really happening at the intersection of artificial intelligence and ABA and what it means for clinicians, researchers, and practice owners right now.We explore:Whether AI could become part of your ABA treatment teamThe ethical concerns the field can’t ignoreHow AI is transforming session notes, reports, and researchWhy ABA may be moving faster than it’s ready forA bold prediction for where AI and ABA are headed by 2030 We also go beyond technology, diving into leadership, decision-making, parenting, and what it means to build something that lasts. If you’re a BCBA, RBT, clinic owner, student, or simply curious about the future of ABA, this conversation will challenge how you think about AI.🎧 Watch now and decide for yourself:Is AI a breakthrough tool… or a risky shortcut?Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:38 Personal Updates & Adam’s Big News02:44 What Is Intraverbal AI04:02 Balancing Product Development vs Sales05:37 Favorite Tools in the Intraverbal Toolbox08:04 AI in ABA Hype Vs. Reality12:27 AI Ethics and Accountability Concerns16:56 AI Agents Developing Their Own Language20:10 Elon Musk, Robots and the Future of AI20:50 Could AI Join ABA Treatment Teams?25:08 New Research Initiative and Literature Analysis28:27 AI and New Discoveries in Behavior Analysis31:43 Straight Talk With Joe33:51 Arguing in Front of Kids37:39 Marriage, Society & Modern Dating39:59 The Benefits of Marriage44:55 Healthy vs Unhealthy Arguments52:00 Intraverbal Updates and Predictions55:22 Coop’s Off The Clock

What happens when empathy meets smart technology in ABA?In this episode of Beyond the Science, we sit down with Charlene Kurth, COO of Office Puzzle, to explore how one practice management platform is helping ABA providers run smarter, scale sustainably, and reduce daily stress.Charlene shares her path from psychology and analytics into ABA tech, and why Office Puzzle was built to support people, not just data.In this episode, you’ll learn:- Why broken systems, not care, hold practices back- How Office Puzzle unifies scheduling, notes, billing, and compliance- Where AI actually helps (and where it shouldn’t)- Why affordable, flexible tools matter for growth- How customer support and community drive successIf you’re an ABA provider, clinic owner, or clinician looking for better systems without burnout, this episode is for you.👉 Watch now and discover a smarter way to run your practice. Timestamps:00:38 Meet Charlene of Office Puzzle02:08 Charlene’s background and career path04:23 Day-to-day role as COO05:12 Advice for aspiring leaders06:47 Origin of the Office Puzzle name08:46 Key pain points Office Puzzle solves12:48 HIPAA compliance and data security13:26 AI features and note generation16:23 Common mistakes business owners make20:55 The biggest challenge in the field22:29 Proudest moments and team growth23:35 Provider success story25:34 Straight Talk with Joe28:46 Supporting small and growing practices30:30 All-in-one pricing and accessibility32:36 Long-term vision for Office Puzzle34:17 Expanding services and position in the market38:20 Georgia pilot program teaser43:21 Industry perspective and competition45:10 Empathy and community impact47:30 Coop’s Off the Clock

This Holiday Special brings all the vibes: laughter, games, and real talk.Jeron, Joe, and Coop are back in their ugly sweaters for a festive episode filled with holiday debates, movie face-offs, and a Christmas dinner draft that gets surprisingly competitive. But between the jokes, they open up about family, loss, and what the holidays really mean to them as fathers, friends, and business owners. In this episode:• Fun holiday showdowns: movies, traditions, music, and the ultimate dinner plate• How dads balance joy, pressure, and family expectations this season• Behind the Sapphire AI launch and what it taught about community• Honest talk on grief, forgiveness, and navigating tough moments during the holidays• Quick insights on Georgia insurance changes every ABA family should know A warm, entertaining, and genuinely heartfelt episode to close out the year.Press play and celebrate the season with the Beyond the Science crew. Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:30 Holiday Special Begins01:42 Parenting, Presence, and Christmas Balance03:04 Holiday Traditions and Family Life06:08 Recap of the Sapphire AI Launch10:21 Coping with Loss During the Holidays14:39 Holiday Movie Showdown17:37 Overrated or Underrated Holiday Edition21:32 Straight Talk with Joe: Georgia Insurance Changes26:01 One Tip for Starting an ABA Business27:34 Holiday Dinner Plate Draft30:20 Coop’s Off the Clock31:31 Ultimate Artist Showdown

🔥 At FABA, one of ABA’s most respected researchers sits down for a rare, unfiltered conversation and the insights are game-changing. Dr. Bill Ahearn, Director of Research at the New England Center for Children, opens up about the state of ABA today, the misconceptions holding practitioners back, and the breakthroughs that could reshape how we understand automatically reinforced behavior, social skills, and early-career supervision. Here’s What We Dive into:✨ Why automatically reinforced behaviors require fresh strategies and how new research is shifting best practices.✨ How the field is failing early-career BCBAs and what must change to support competent, confident practitioners.✨ The real reason social-skills training lags behind and how to build interventions that actually transfer to real-world environments. If you care about the future of ABA, or want to sharpen your own practice, this episode is a must-watch.👉 Tune in now and level up your understanding of the field.Timestamps:0:00 Intro0:47 FABA Podcast Presentation and Dr. Bill’s Intro4:24 Dr. Bill’s Research and Excitement8:56 Challenges and Successes in the Field16:16 Impact of New RBT Requirements18:22 Post-COVID Generations and Social Skills Training25:10 Rapid Fire Questions And Reflections32:23 Final Thoughts and Appreciation33:53 Where to find Dr. Bill online

Live from the FABA Conference, Dr. Paulie Gavoni breaks down how behavioral science and OBM can transform the way you lead, coach, and motivate people. You’ll learn why most leaders fail, how the environment shapes performance, and how simple behavioral tools can bring out the best in any team. Through real stories from schools, gyms, and workplaces, and practical tools like the four leadership hats, Dr. Paulie shows exactly how to inspire, train, support, and sustain meaningful change. If you want to lead smarter and get better results, don’t miss this one. Watch now! Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:38 Live from FABA conference00:53 Meet Dr Paulie Gavoni02:29 Why ABA and OBM matter02:38 Unlocking behavior and real leadership05:33 Lessons from Aubrey Daniels07:01 What sparked his leadership journey09:46 Coaching fighters vs educators12:33 Punishment procedure and sparring14:24 Behavioral insights in coaching fighters17:36 Greatest fighters of all time19:59 Book recommendations20:58 Current debates in ABA27:07 Where to find Dr Paulie online

The most important shift happening in ABA right now isn’t technical, it’s cultural.Live from the 45th FABA Conference, Jeron sits down with Dr. Jon Bailey, Jaelyn Windham, and Chinara to unpack how cultural humility is transforming ethical practice, why understanding family culture is essential for effective ABA, and what new research reveals about how naturally responsive RBTs already are.A must-watch for anyone committed to the future of ABA.Hit play and join the conversation. Timestamps:00:00 Beyond the Science Live at FABA01:03 Dr. Bailey on why FABA outshines national conferences02:27 How FABA’s community feel began03:31 The value of intimate, state-level conferences04:24 Cultural responsiveness topic05:42 How new RBTs can address their concerns07:22 Cultural humility within ethical ABA practice09:13 Understanding family culture in ABA work10:00 Research findings on culturally responsive behavior11:35 Generalizing cultural responsiveness13:45 Preparing children for school environments14:42 Advice for early-career BCBAs17:57 Advice for students researching cultural responsiveness19:17 Collaboration and mentorship dynamics21:31 Three-word descriptions of FABA

What if your next family vacation could double as therapy?In this episode of Beyond the Science, BCBA and certified autism travel pro Rachel Morelli shares how she helps families turn travel into progress, not stress. From cruises with built-in respite care to airports that actually support neurodiverse kids, Rachel breaks down real-world tools that make exploring the world possible for every family. She also introduces The Learning Escape, a first-of-its-kind ABA cruise where professionals can earn CEUs while their families enjoy the trip.🎧 Watch now and see how travel can become therapy and freedom for families everywhere. Timestamps:00:00 Intro01:40 Meet Rachel: BCBA & Autism Travel Pro04:00 Autism on the Seas: Support on Cruises06:30 How Travel Goals Become Therapy Goals09:40 Can Insurance Cover Travel Therapy?13:20 Why Vacations Boost Family Well-being14:45 Genius Safety Tip for Traveling with Kids17:40 Autism-Friendly Parks & Resorts20:10 Airport Help: TSA Cares & Sunflower Program22:00 Practice Flights for Autism Families23:20 The Learning Escape: CEUs at Sea25:50 Inside the First ABA Cruise Conference29:30 Balancing Motherhood & a BCBA Career34:20 Beating Burnout and Finding New Paths36:30 How to Become a Certified Autism Travel Pro38:10 The Future of Accessible Travel42:00 Group Trips, Sponsorships & Insurance45:25 Rapid-Fire Travel Q&A with Rachel47:00 Rachel’s Early Morning Rituals48:20 Final Thoughts & Takeaways

What happens when three ABA leaders turn their vision into a movement?Jeron Trotman, Joseph Adams, and Darius Cooper open up about how they built Beyond the Science into one of the most impactful voices in behavior analysis. They share the highs of launching new ventures, from group homes to Sapphire AI, and the hidden struggles that come with success: family sacrifices, shifting friendships, and staying grounded while leading a growing community.🎧 Watch now their honest, inspiring look at brotherhood, ambition, and the real cost of chasing purpose in ABA and beyond. Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:48 Welcome Back to Beyond the Science Podcast01:21 Year in Review & New Ventures02:57 From Clinician to CEO06:23 Journey to Entrepreneurship08:13 The Power of Community10:55 Behind the Scenes of BNB Summit12:27 Civil Discourse and Thought Exchange15:26 Block Party & Fellowship Moments17:48 Residential Services Vision20:29 Homelessness and the Autism Spectrum22:23 Challenges of Starting Group Homes24:56 Introducing Sapphire AI31:14 What Makes Sapphire Different35:14 BACB ACE Provider Changes37:32 Special Education Funding Cuts41:51 BCBA at Sea 202743:31 Reflecting on the Podcast Journey45:53 Brotherhood & Mental Health54:32 The Cost of Success55:29 Family Sacrifices, Balance & Fatherhood1:08:40 Closing Thoughts

What happens when a punk-rock rebel becomes one of ABA’s most thought-provoking voices?At FABA 2025, Dr. Shane Spiker brings raw honesty and insight to the world of behavior science, challenging outdated norms, breaking taboos around sex education and ethics, and calling for a more human, self-reflective approach to ABA. From Humble Behaviorism to open mentorship, Dr. Shane shows why questioning the system sparks real change.🎧 Tune in to hear Dr. Spiker unfiltered and see why his vision could reshape the future of behavior analysis. Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:35 Meet Dr. Shane Spiker01:42 Why FABA Matters in Florida03:03 Favorite Conference Topics04:17 Treating Inappropriate Sexual Behaviors07:42 Openness & Approachability08:27 His Most Impactful Publications10:28 Teaching Critical Thinking13:24 Favorite College Football Team14:50 Why We Do What We Do Podcast16:37 New Books and Projects17:34 His Go-To Conference Drink18:06 ABA in the Next 10 Years20:11 Where to Find Shane

What to do when mealtime isn’t just stressful but becomes a matter of survival?Live from FABA 2025, Dr. Meeta Patel takes us inside the world of pediatric feeding disorders. She shares why parent involvement is the single most important factor for success, how home-based treatment changes everything, and why some common beliefs about feeding, like “escape extinction,” are misunderstood. From reducing tube dependency to collaborating with medical teams, Dr. Patel reveals practical insights, research challenges, and new breakthroughs that are shaping the future of feeding disorder treatment.Hit play to learn more about Dr Patel's insights on Pediatric Feeding Breakthroughs Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:39 Welcome & FABA 45th anniversary intro01:04 Meeta Patel, expert on pediatric feeding disorders02:08 Why focus on the home environment02:59 What pediatric feeding disorders look like03:53 Parent involvement as the key to success05:03 Takeaways from recent FABA presentation08:09 Interdisciplinary collaboration:10:18 Evolution of research & literature13:20 Addressing myths around escape extinction16:42 When and why to refer patients out19:12 Reducing tube dependency 21:32 Role of gut health in treatment 24:53 Fun fact: from fashion to behavior analysis25:37 Closing reflections and contact

What really counts as a restraint and why does it matter?Recorded live at the FABA Conference 2025, Dr. Merrill Winston breaks down the thin line between physical prompting and restraint, the hidden dangers of misaligned motivations, and why focusing on “restraint reduction” misses the bigger picture. With over 25 years of experience as an expert witness and crisis management trainer, he shares what schools, parents, and even law enforcement often misunderstand.Press play and learn why restraint isn’t the enemy and what the real focus should be. Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:28 Welcoming Dr. Merrill Winston01:45 Physical restraint vs. physical prompting04:20 When are prompts turning into restraints07:20 The truth about misaligned motivations10:05 Informed consent vs. cooperation from parents13:16 Malice, incompetence & real goal15:44 How Dr. Winston got into crisis management21:23 Lessons from 25 years of restraint cases23:34 Police, parents, and the realities of restraint29:06 Advice for young professionals in the field

What happens when some of the most accomplished Black men in Applied Behavior Analysis come together on one stage? You get raw honesty, inspiring stories, and a powerful vision for the future of the field.From breaking barriers in education, sports, and mental health to tackling cultural competence, financial literacy, and mentorship, this episode goes far beyond autism and classrooms. These leaders share pivotal career moments, the importance of trust and hope, and why representation matters for the next generation.Hit play and discover how these leaders are reshaping ABA, inspiring the next generation, and proving that representation changes everything.Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:45 Welcome & podcast journey so far02:57 Introducing guests and their achievements08:00 Pivotal moments of leadership journeys11:31 How leadership in ABA has shifted over time14:23 Audience Q&A: Passing knowledge to children17:40 Mentorship and inspiring the next generation20:25 Financial literacy and family education23:01 Challenges & future of ABA service27:54 Community perspectives and testimonies30:25 Cultural competences in ABA36:38 Code-switching and staying authentic41:59 Building trust, hope, and measurable results43:22 Advice for young behavior analysts48:30 Navigating cultural nuances without DEI mandates54:30 Publishing research and creating ABA literature59:33 Should you pursue a doctorate?1:01:37 Closing reflections

What happens when poetry, culture, and science collide? This episode reveals the story behind Black Male BCBA Day and the movement transforming the field of behavior analysis. You’ll hear powerful insights on mentorship, representation, and overcoming challenges as the first Black male BCBAs. From brotherhood to everyday lessons, it’s a look at how breaking barriers is reshaping the future of ABA.Don’t miss it—hit play and join the movement. Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:30 Poetry performance01:10 Meet Andre Anderson03:10 Personal connections, support, and recognition05:07 Excitement about the summit08:22 Ben Crump’s message of support10:10 Reflections on mentorship & inspiration12:20 Origins of Black Male BCBA Day17:59 Statistics on representation in ABA18:14 Grandmother’s influence, poetry, and ABA24:00 Challenges as the first Black male BCBA in Tennessee27:43 Advice for RBTs entering the field30:45 Function-based interventions & friendships35:04 Applying ABA principles in marriage & family life36:53 Blending poetry, hip hop, and behavioral science39:05 Quick-fire questions with Andre40:21 Message for young professionals in ABA42:27 Straight talk on fatherhood & raising daughters45:41 Gratitude and legacy in ABA47:39 Closing remarks

What happens when occupational therapy, ABA, and lived experience collide? In this episode, Michelle shares her powerful journey from nursing school dropout to OT and BCBA, her viral TikTok success, and why she believes collaboration, not silos, will change the future of therapy.From decoding proprioception and sensory systems to tackling the remote vs. in-person BCBA debate, representation in the field, and raising kids with ADHD, this conversation is raw, inspiring, and packed with insights you won’t hear anywhere else. Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:42 Meet Michelle01:41 From nursing to OT to ABA04:26 Why OT + ABA credentials matter06:38 Gaps in OT training08:18 Multidisciplinary teamwork challenges10:12 Sensory and neurological lens in ABA11:17 Proprioception made simple13:58 Connecting OT & ABA15:23 Finding each child’s “formula”16:36 Teaching vs. direct treatment17:52 Going viral on TikTok19:04 RBT support & telehealth debate20:34 Remote vs. in-person BCBA23:21 Limits of medical model24:15 Finding the right balance25:25 Lightning round: Q&A27:06 Beyond the “four functions” of behavior28:02 True cross-discipline collaborations31:11 Representation & authenticity33:35 Advice for queer and neuro-divergent pros35:02 Building trust with families37:19 Study journal & exam prep38:09 ADHD: boys vs. girls40:20 Life outside ABA44:18 Final message to share45:19 Where to find Michelle online

From the Bronx to the C-Suite, this is the remarkable journey of a woman who refused to be defined by limits.In this inspiring conversation, you’ll hear how she rose from special education teacher to become the first Black woman in ABA’s C-suite, leading with passion, data, and grit. She shares the personal story that brought her to Applied Behavior Analysis, the challenges she’s overcome, and the leadership strategies driving real change in the field.Whether you’re in ABA, leadership, or just love stories of resilience and impact, this episode will motivate you to break barriers of your own. Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:33 Meet Quatiba Davis03:06 How her daughter’s stroke led her to ABA07:33 Discovering the power of Applied Behavior Analysis08:30 Role as Chief Clinical Officer09:33 Overcoming challenges as a Black woman in a C-suite role18:07 How her Bronx upbringing shaped her career21:03 Advice for Black women entering corporate leadership23:23 Staying grounded under high responsibility29:04 The sponsor who changed her life32:13 The Importance of mentorship38:22 Parenting, independence, and supporting her daughter42:28 Why there are so few Black women in ABA leadership45:15 Diversity, equity, and inclusion in ABA today48:29 Final advice for women in leadership

Big announcements, big names, and even bigger plans!Get an inside look at the upcoming BNBA Summit – from powerhouse keynote speakers and game‑changing panels to scholarships, networking mixers, and even a three‑on‑three basketball tournament with a $500 prize! The hosts share why this year’s event is bigger than ever, how it’s creating space for Black men and allies in ABA, and what exciting sessions you can’t afford to miss. If you want inspiration, connection, and a front‑row seat to the future of ABA, this is the episode you’ll want to watch. Timestamps:02:03 Introduction to BNBA Summit and its mission03:10 Excitement about networking and events04:17 Keynote speakers and session highlights07:17 Friday schedule: scholarships and the 3‑on‑3 tournament09:04 Saturday schedule: speaker and panels12:12 Entrepreneurship panel and block party13:16 Networking mixer and sponsors mentioned14:30 Final thoughts and excitement for the summit

Ever wondered what it really takes to start a group home from scratch?In this powerful episode, Arthur Hairston breaks down his journey from working in direct care to building a thriving, sustainable group home business. He opens up about the $250K startup costs no one talks about, the early chaos of working with at-risk youth, and how a single pivot changed everything.Tune in for real talk—and subscribe for more on ABA, entrepreneurship, and purpose-driven leadership. Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:50 Meet Arthur Hairston01:55 Arthur’s Warm Welcome & Shutout03:02 From Teaching to Group Homes06:02 At-Risk Youth & Group Home Community08:04 Different Types of Group Homes09:55 Hiring & Staffing Realities10:40 Opening a Group Home12:46 Running a Group Home15:26 Unexpected Challenges: Parental Rights & Approvals19:08 Working with Your Spouse22:25 Being a Black Entrepreneur in ABA25:25 Balancing Business & Fatherhood27:56 Curiosity & Asking Questions Publicly29:34 The Importance of Entrepreneurial Spirit32:50 Passing Down the Game34:22 Knowledge Sharing & the BNBA Summit37:43 Ignorant Purchases & Real Estate Dreams41:04 Where to Connect with Arthur

What does it take to change a field from the inside out? In this powerful episode, we sit down with Amanda Kelly, better known as BehaviorBabe, to explore her journey from grassroots advocacy to influencing national autism policy.Amanda shares how she built a movement through free resources, tackled ethical challenges in ABA, and helped pass landmark legislation in two states—all while staying grounded in her purpose.From social media backlash to the launch of a revolutionary residential campus, this is a masterclass in impact, integrity, and leadership. Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:26 Highlights from the Adult Services Panel01:49 Launch of Unum Place Residential Campus02:46 The Origin of “BehaviorBabe”05:35 What Ethical ABA Looks Like Today07:00 The Biggest Misconceptions in ABA08:12 From Advocacy to Legislation11:16 Challenges in Hawaii Advocacy Work13:22 Social Media's Role in ABA and Advocacy16:30 What Keeps Amanda Motivated & Grounded18:11 Advice to Her Younger Self20:16 Legacy and Long-Term Vision21:37 Final Fun Question: What’s on Your Playlist?

What if one platform could completely transform how ABA care is delivered?In this episode, we sit down with Smith Anderson and Emily McCullough from Motivity, the fast-growing platform that's changing how clinicians deliver care. From smart scheduling to real-time insights, they share how Motivity evolved from a data tool into a powerful all-in-one solution—and why their mission is all about empowering providers, supporting families, and transforming outcomes.Whether you're a clinician, founder, or ABA advocate, this episode will leave you inspired—and maybe even rethinking what's possible. Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:25 Meet Smith Anderson & Emily McCullough01:10 How Motivity got started05:04 From data tool to full clinical platform07:54 Partnering with Kalmanak & launching PM09:14 Scaling without losing quality10:04 Smart scheduling & routing features12:05 Mission-driven hiring and growth15:05 What new investment means for Motivity17:50 Staying focused on clinical outcomes20:00 Introducing “Acuity”21:27 Fun facts about the team24:23 Book & podcast recommendations25:49 How ABA has evolved28:59 Impact of real-time data access30:28 Future of connected care32:23 Ethical use of AI in ABA35:59 Leadership at Motivity38:20 Building intentional culture40:27 What motivates the team44:09 Advice for ABA professionals

What does it really take to transform autism care from the inside out? In this powerful live episode from the 2025 Autism Partnership Foundation Conference, APF leaders reveal how they’re reshaping ABA through accessible training, compassionate intervention, and bold leadership. Learn why free RBT education is changing lives, how the field is rediscovering its roots, and what ethical ABA looks like today. Subscribe for more conversations that drive impact. Timestamps:00:15 Live from the APF Conference01:30 APF’s Evolving Mission03:58 Reaching a Wider Audience05:16 The Push for Quality Intervention08:03 Shifts in the Field of ABA11:55 Challenges in Training & Access12:22 Can AI Help the Field?14:42 Leadership at APF18:32 Leadership Books to Recommend19:26 One-Word APF Legacy Goals21:01 Wrap-Up & Reflections

Live from APF 2025, autism advocate and sex educator Amy Gravino delivers an unfiltered, powerful conversation about dating, sexuality, and life as an autistic adult. From being bullied as a child to becoming a leading voice for neurodivergent women, Amy shares her personal journey with raw honesty and sharp wit. She opens up about the emotional toll of relationships, the heartbreak of being misunderstood, and the frustrating gaps in support that autistic adults continue to face. With real-world insights and humor, Amy challenges outdated stereotypes, breaks down why traditional sex education fails the autism community, and offers a new path forward — one rooted in inclusion, consent, and authentic connection. Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:22 Live at APF 2025: Meet Amy Gravino  01:28 Amy’s Diagnosis and Early Advocacy04:41 Asperger’s vs Autism: What’s Changed?Amy explains the historical background and controversies around the Asperger’s label.06:35 Why the Autism Spectrum Label Matters07:33 What Professionals Should Do Differently09:25 Autism, Sexuality & Memoir10:41 A Broken Adult Services System12:53 Why Adults with Autism Are Forgotten15:43 Sex Education for Autistic Adults17:14 The Rutgers Center & Community Integration18:06 Dating as an Autistic Female20:09 How to Connect with Amy

Live from the APF Conference, Van Jones joins us for a brief but powerful conversation on the politicization of science, autism myths, and the fallout from COVID-19. He shares candid thoughts on RFK Jr.'s controversial claims, the real impact on young people, and why we can't afford to ignore these conversations. Honest, urgent, and unfiltered—this is one you don’t want to miss. Timestamps:00:00 Into00:21 Van Jones Live from the APF Conference00:43 COVID & Credibility of Science03:26 RFK Jr., Autism, & Misinformation04:26 The Danger of Stereotyping Autism05:05 Talent on the Spectrum05:46 Final Reflections & What Keeps Van Going

What does it really take to become a skilled, ethical, and confident behavior analyst today? In this special President’s Corner episode of Beyond the Science, host Jeron Trotman is joined by Dr. Steven Eversole, founder of Behavior Development Solutions, and research librarian Dr. Nicole Bank for an honest and inspiring conversation about the future of ABA. They dive into why foundational training matters more than ever, how research literacy shapes real-world success, and what’s missing from the way many practitioners are trained today. From the early days of ABA’s academic roots to today’s fast-growing and sometimes chaotic landscape, the episode explores how we can build a stronger, more informed field—starting with just one article, one journal club, or one meaningful conversation at a time.  Tune in now and rediscover what it means to be a behavior analyst in today’s world. Timestamps:00:00 – Cold Open & Inside JokeBehind-the-scenes banter, the “Caddy Story,” and warming up before the show. 01:35 Guest Introductions05:33 Why ABA Training Must Include Research Literacy09:40 Foundations of Strong ABA Training12:15 Real-World Examples of Good vs. Poor Training16:44 Making Research Engaging & Accessible19:39 Barriers to Research Literacy in ABA23:44 Practical Strategies to Stay Engaged with Literature25:51 BDS Journal Club & Collaborative Learning29:27 Healthy Disagreements in Research Discussion34:09 How to Build a Culture of Research in Organizations39:30 Conference Posters for Building Research Engagement41:17 The State of the Field: Where Are We Now?51:53 Final Advice for Early-Career BCBAs

What happens when AI meets the science of behavior?In this episode, we sit down with Adam Ventura, Founder of Intraverbal AI and a driving force behind tech innovation in ABA, to explore how artificial intelligence is transforming clinical practice, assessments, and the future of the field.From ethical dilemmas and HIPAA compliance to the lack of civil discourse and growing divides in behavior analysis, Adam doesn't hold back. He shares insights from global conferences, explains how his platform leverages AI to support evidence-based care, and makes a powerful case for why behavior analysts must shape AI—before it shapes them.Whether you're excited or skeptical about tech in ABA, this is the conversation you can't miss.Timestamps:00:27 Adam Ventura at the Texas ABA Conference.01:17 AI & ABA Around the World03:19 Highlights from the First Shaping AI Summit05:33 Why Behavior Analysts Must Shape AI Now11:47 Need for Academic Disagreement14:58 Civil Discourse Platform Announcement16:59 Intraverbal AI for Research & Building Clinical Programs21:58 Why Is Intraverbal AI Better Than Other LLMs27:05 How Students Should Use AI32:55 HIPAA Compliance and Client Privacy in AI39:36 State of the ABA Field: What Needs to Change?47:42 What’s Next for Intraverbal AI?50:06 Fatherhood & Aligning Family Values

Live from Savannah State University!Join us for a powerful, inspiring celebration of 20 years of SSU’s pioneering Behavior Analysis program — the first and only undergraduate Behavior Analysis program at an HBCU in the country!In this special live episode, we dive deep into how SSU is building future leaders, breaking barriers, and making history. You’ll hear directly from the President of Savannah State, the visionary founder of the Behavior Analysis program Dr. Katherine Stewart, passionate students, alumni making an impact, and advocates who are shaping the next generation of behavior analysts.We talk about why diversity in Behavior Analysis matters now more than ever, how SSU students are being equipped to lead real change in their communities, and the powerful legacy being built on campus today.Expect real stories, real advice, a lot of laughs, some trivia games (with prizes!), and unforgettable moments of wisdom, empowerment, and pride.Big energy. Real impact. History in the making — live from SSU!Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:29 Live from Savannah State University03:20 Celebrating 20 Years of Behavior Analysis program06:24 Historic Legacy of Savannah State08:10 President’s Message to the Audience10:26 Reflections After President's Visit11:16 Dr. Katherine Stewart on Founding the ABA Program14:57 Vision for the Next 20 Years18:03 Dr. Katherine’s Message to the Audience18:58 Fun Student Trivia and Prizes22:22 Students Speak: Why They Chose ABA28:14 Why study at Savannah State University30:27 Where Students See Themselves in Next 5 Years33:29 Expanding ABA into New Fields35:50 Fun Student Trivia and Prizes38:11 Marquis Jacobs and Her Behavior Analysis Journey41:27 The Impact Students Can Make in Next 5 Years45:20 Why Diversity in ABA Matters More Than Ever48:17 Student Q & A1:08:03 Classes That Focus on Networking1:09:45 Student Sharing Her Experience with ABA1:12:18 Alumni Memories & Advice to Students1:21:15 Commitment to Growth and Community1:24:16 Final Thoughts

Join us for an unfiltered, emotional, and refreshingly honest conversation with three Registered Behavior Technicians. In this groundbreaking episode, RBTs reveal the untold truth about what it’s really like working on the front lines of ABA therapy—from burnout and low pay to joy, purpose, and everything in between.Whether you’re an RBT, BCBA, or someone curious about the field, this episode will challenge your perspective and move you deeplyDiscover:Why many RBTs feel invisible, undervalued, and underpaidShocking behind-the-scenes moments that’ll make you laugh and cryThe real emotional cost—and reward—of this workPowerful insights on burnout, passion, and staying in the fieldWhat every BCBA needs to hear from their RBTsThis episode is 100% real, unscripted, and guaranteed to change how you see ABA—and the people who make it happen. Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:40 Special guests & fun facts about them03:35 April’s journey into ABA and motherhood07:10 Lily’s story: early intervention and becoming an RBT09:04 Rob’s path from undergrad to crisis unit12:09 A day in the life of an RBT17:48 The burnout and wanting to quit27:45 Dear BCBA, I wish you knew21:44 Clients with more challenging behaviors36:03 RBT Conference announcement and why it matters39:58 Community, visibility, and raising RBT voices44:27 Real talk: pay rates, PTO, and cancelations46:31 Ideas to fix client cancelation challenges56:40 The future of the field: retention and respect59:03 Wildest things kids have ever said1:02:44 Rapid-fire game1:03:30 Off the clock: love languages1:06:06 Final advice for new RBTs

🎙️ Live from APBS 2025!We’re coming to you straight from the Innovation Zone at APBS 2025 with a laid-back, honest recap of everything that went down. From favorite sessions and unexpected interviews to real talk about collaboration, equity, and what’s next in behavior support—we’re covering it all.You’ll hear audience takeaways, behind-the-scenes moments, and even the big reveal of the 3K Academy. Whether you made it to the conference or not, this episode gives you a front-row seat to the energy, connection, and ideas that made APBS 2025 one to remember.Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:31 Live from the APBS Innovation Zone01:21 Conference Highlights and Standout Interviews03:28 Audience Reflections on the Conference06:42 Openness and Connection at APBS08:40 What Would You Change About Behavior Support?13:13 Why You Should Attend the APBS Conference15:02 Announcing 3K Academy in Atlanta17:53 Looking Ahead to APBS 2026 in Minneapolis19:09 The Conference Theme Song

Millions of children struggle with feeding disorders and food insecurity, yet these issues often go unnoticed in schools and healthcare settings.In this compelling episode, Dr. Meara McMahon, a leading expert in pediatric feeding therapy, breaks down why some kids refuse food, how medical and behavioral factors intertwine, and why traditional advice like “they’ll grow out of it” can be dangerously wrong.We explore the role of behavior analysts (BCBAs) in tackling these challenges, the gaps in school nutrition programs, and practical solutions for parents and educators. Plus, we discuss how public policies can better support children with complex feeding needs.If you're a parent, teacher, or healthcare professional, this conversation will change how you think about kids and food.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:02 Meet Dr. Meara McMahon02:30 Journey into feeding therapy05:34 Moving to Georgia & career growth06:44 Why feeding is so complex09:43 Advice for parents facing feeding issues11:05 Feeding challenges in schools14:13 Food insecurity’s impact on children18:01 Parent training in feeding therapy20:09 Feeding challenges in older kids24:30 School nutrition & the National School Lunch Program28:12 How can BCBAs help with feeding issues30:43 Breaking into public health35:00 Straight Talk with Joe: Self-care & hiking38:05 The importance of working at GABA43:06 The “Asian Glow” story46:24 Where to connect with Dr. Meara McMahon

In this powerful Orlando panel discussion, top Black women leaders in Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA) share their journeys, challenges, and bold innovations reshaping the field. From breaking barriers in leadership to navigating the evolving landscape of DEI, they dive into what it takes to create lasting impact.🔥 Key Topics:✅ The secrets to effective leadership in ABA✅ How to stay innovative in a changing industry✅ Tackling high turnover & building strong teams✅ Why authenticity is the key to successDon’t miss this inspiring and insightful conversation—watch now and level up your leadership game! 🎥✨ Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:48 Welcome to the Thought Exchange Panel02:06 Introduction to Panelist05:29 Key experiences that shaped their careers in ABA11:06 What makes an effective leader?18:51 Staying innovative in the field of ABA24:13 Creating lasting impact and meaningful careers32:32 Using ABA principles in leadership35:46 Addressing high turnover rates in ABA41:15 The importance of company culture and alignment

In this episode, live from Miami, behavior analysis expert Adam Ventura shares his remarkable journey - from building a successful ABA therapy company to pivoting into the world of AI.Discover how a family tragedy led Ventura to reevaluate his priorities and find the perfect balance between professional success and personal relationships.Dive into Ventura's insights on the challenges and opportunities of integrating AI into ABA, including his innovative Intraverbal AI platform designed to enhance the assessment process and transform education. Learn about the upcoming Shaping AI conference, where Ventura and other industry leaders will shape the future of behavior analysis and technology.This episode is a must-watch for anyone interested in the intersection of ABA, entrepreneurship, and the cutting edge of artificial intelligence. Don't miss this inspiring story of personal growth and professional innovation. Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:32 Live from Miami with Adam Ventura01:39 Adam's 20-year journey in behavior analysis03:13 Prioritizing family over business05:51 The cost of hyper-focusing on work07:54 Realizing that true legacy is in family, not business10:37 Career journey, ABA, and AI15:30 The importance of having a partner as an entrepreneur18:24 Skepticism & pushback on AI in ABA space23:28 The challenge of defining humanity in the AI era26:51 AI and the future of ABA30:15 Intraverbal AI: A game-changing tool for behavior analysts34:45 DeepSeek and competing with OpenAI38:06 How Intraverbal AI enhances, not replaces, behavior analysts43:38 Developing future features of Intraverbal AI45:48 The Shaping AI Conference: The future of ABA and AI50:16 Balancing career, fatherhood, and personal growth54:07 Sacrificing and repairing family relationships58:05 The deep need for parental validation1:02:24 Biggest entrepreneurial wins and losses1:05:12 The future of AI in education and ABA training1:07:35 Do business owners check employee social media?

Autistic individuals are 7X more likely to encounter police but are officers prepared?In this episode, we dive into the urgent need for autism training in law enforcement with Dr. Lyndsy Coffield, a BCBA specializing in police education. From real ride-alongs to key de-escalation tactics, we reveal gaps in police training and their impact on neurodiverse individuals.- Why are so many police interactions with autistic individuals going wrong?- What can officers do differently to avoid tragic misunderstandings?- How can parents & caregivers help prepare for potential encounters?Learn how small changes in awareness and training can prevent life-altering misunderstandings and improve interactions between law enforcement and the autism community. If you care about safer communities, better police training, and protecting neurodiverse individuals, don't miss this powerful conversation.Timestamps:00:37 Introduction to Dr. Lyndsy Cofield01:47 The High Interaction Rate Between Autism & Law Enforcement02:29 Personal Experiences with Law Enforcement & Autism04:38 Dr. Lyndsy’s Background and Career Journey07:59 Self-Defense for Women & Fire Arm Training09:46 Realizing the Need for Autism Training in Police Work11:35 Ride-Along Experience & Understanding Officer Perspective14:43 Acknowledging the Challenges of Law Enforcement16:01 What Bad ABA Looks Like17:20 How BCBAs Can Get Involved in Police Training20:58 Key Lessons Learned in the Field22:03 The Importance of Canine Scent Kits for Missing Individuals25:34 Apollo Behavior’s Community Initiatives & Police Partnerships30:38 What ABA & Policing Can Learn from Each Other33:30 Ideas for Improving Police Training on Autism34:53 Exposing First Responders to Autistic Individuals39:53 Favorite Vacation Spot & College Football Rivalry43:51 Closing Thoughts & Shout Out to Apollo Behavior

In this episode, we dive into the remarkable story of Kevin, a speech-language pathologist who's using his unique blend of music, humor, and creativity to transform the lives of his clients. From his unexpected career transition to his pioneering work as a sensory-friendly barber, Kevin's passion and dedication shine through, inspiring us all. Hear how he's navigating the challenges of being a black male therapist in a predominantly white field, and learn about his powerful collaborations with ABA therapists to provide holistic care. This episode is a must-watch for anyone interested in the intersection of speech therapy, music, and the power of diverse perspectives. Get ready to be entertained, informed, and empowered by the inspiring journey of the "Singing SLP." Timestamps: 08:30 Kevin’s journey into speech and language pathology 12:41 Taking a break and finding purpose 14:39 Mentorship and its impact on career growth 17:25 Becoming the Singing SLP: Music and therapy 24:22 Sensory-friendly haircuts for neurodiverse children 30:56 Collaboration between SLP and ABA 33:53 The importance of speech therapy 36:06 The main differences between ABA and SLP 40:20 Collaboration and finding the middle ground with EIPs 43:17 Challenges of being a black male therapist in a predominantly white field 48:58 Learning from criticism and personal growth 53:20 Kevin’s vision for the future

In this festive episode, host Jeron Trotman, Joseph Adams, and Darius Coop wrap up the year with a mix of heartfelt reflections and holiday fun. From navigating busy schedules as fathers and business owners to sharing personal stories of growth, they dive into what made 2024 unforgettable. Plus, the team brings the holiday spirit with spicy debates on traditions, holiday movie favorites, and some laugh-out-loud hot takes. It’s the perfect blend of inspiration, humor, and holiday cheer! 3 Key Takeaways: 1. Cherish the Journey: Reflect on the past year’s challenges and successes, and take pride in the growth you’ve achieved. 2. Holiday Connections: Make the most of this festive season by staying present with family and finding joy in traditions. 3. Plan with Purpose: Set meaningful goals for the new year, balancing personal growth and professional aspirations. Timestamps: 0:00 - 0:46 Introduction 0:46 - 1:28 Discussing 2024 and Recapping the Year 1:28 - 4:12 Balancing Family and Business 4:12 - 7:11 Reflecting on 2024 and Looking Forward to 2025 7:11 - 9:42 Advice for Parents and Professionals 9:42 - 13:47 Holiday Hot Takes and Debates 13:47 - 17:55 ABA Holiday Survival Guide 17:55 - 23:00 Savage Holiday Debates and Overrated or Underrated 23:00 - 27:00 Guess That Movie Quote and This or That

It’s the second day of the GABA conference and we talk live with Dr. Daniel Conine, a Board Certified Behavior Analyst and Assistant Professor at Georgia State University. Dr. Conine shares his personal journey into behavior analysis and explains the field's complex history with the LGBTQ community. He passionately advocates for clear ethical guidelines and groundbreaking research to support marginalized groups. You will be inspired by Dr. Conine's vision for a more inclusive, compassionate future for the science of human behavior. Discover how behavior analysis can drive positive change and hear about the innovative work happening at Georgia State University's renowned ABA program. Tune in now! Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 00:38 Introduction to Dr. Conine at GABA Conference 01:14 From volunteering to a career in ABA 03:53 The workshop on approaching LGBTQ community 06:36 Conversion therapy, behavior analytics, and LGBTQ advocacy 10:05 Future goals: Advancing community-supportive research by 2029 14:11 How business owners can foster inclusivity 16:09 The Master’s Program at Georgia State University 18:36 Life Outside ABA: Dr. Conine’s hobbies and interests 21:02 Final message to practitioners and parents 22:59 Encouraging new areas of research and practice in ABA 25:00 Where to connect with Dr. Conine

Live from the Arizona ABA Conference, this episode dives into the groundbreaking work of Blue Sprig Pediatrics, a leader in providing innovative ABA services across the nation. Amanda Schaunaman, Director of Clinical Operations, shares how Blue Sprig is transforming autism care with their Severe Behavior Clinics, expanding to 21 locations in Georgia, and supporting clients of all ages with compassionate, individualized services. Discover how Blue Sprig maintains a strong company culture while growing, and learn about their exciting projects shaping the future of ABA therapy. Don’t miss this insightful conversation! Timestamps: 00:00 Welcome from the Arizona ABA Conference 00:35 Blue Sprig Pediatrics and Their Work 01:37 Blue Sprig’s Severe Behavior Clinic and its unique impact 04:05 Blue Sprig’s expansion in Arizona and Georgia 05:33 How Blue Sprig maintains company culture while growing 08:53 Social skills programs for teens and older clients 11:07 Off the clock: Amanda’s surrogate experience 14:04 Exciting projects and how to connect with Blue Sprig

In this episode, live from the Arizona ABA Conference, we are talking to Timothy Yeager, a top leader at Centria Healthcare. Timothy shares his inspiring journey from a struggling undergraduate to driving clinical innovation in ABA therapy. Discover his powerful insights on leadership, company culture, and empowering teams to deliver meaningful change for individuals with autism. Timothy also reveals personal stories of overcoming obstacles, balancing passion with professional growth, and how Centria is tackling the nationwide demand for quality ABA services. Don’t miss this engaging conversation packed with valuable lessons on leadership and ABA therapy! Timestamps: 00:00 Timothy Yeager’s journey to ABA clinical innovation 03:05 10-year journey to getting a bachelor's degree 05:11 Leadership principles and empathy in autism work 08:41 Company culture and culture nuances 09:59 Empowering local teams as a leader 11:02 Balancing vulnerability and value in leadership 14:19 Being a beer revolutionary 16:41 Centria’s mission for ABA access and workforce development 19:01 Defining success in ABA therapy 20:55 Timothy’s COVID journey and its impact on Centria 23:35 Challenges with in-home ABA therapy post-COVID 24:35 Balancing personal passion with professional excellence 26:35 Insights on balancing career with family life

Live from the ABA Conference in Arizona, we sit down with Adam Hahs, Chief Science Officer at Hope Bridge, to explore the future of behavior therapy and its impact on the field. Discover how ACT (Acceptance and Commitment Therapy), innovative leadership, and cutting-edge research are building clinical resilience and transforming ABA care for both clinicians and families. Whether you're interested in AI integration, mentorship, or leadership development, this episode offers deep insights into the strategies that are shaping the next generation of ABA practices and improving outcomes across the board. Timestamps: 00:00 Live from the Arizona ABA Conference 00:41 Introduction to Adam Hahs, Chief Science Officer at Hope Bridge 02:41 What is ACT (Acceptance and Commitment Therapy)? 03:39 Hope Bridge Initiatives and the Fellowship Program 05:18 The most important leadership characteristics 07:27 Hope Bridge’s Fellowship Program and BCBA Exam Pass Rates 10:11 The challenges of implementation of ACT 11:26 Adam’s experience as a professor and his approach to teaching 15:23 The Bridge Program and mentorship 17:15 Future of ABA: AI integration and ethical considerations 21:52 Continuity of care challenges for children aging out of ABA services

In this episode, we are talking to Natasha Nelson, also known as Supernova Mama, who shares her inspiring journey as a black mother raising two autistic daughters while navigating her own neurodivergence. She opens up about the challenges of accessing autism diagnosis and services in Black communities, the impact of systemic barriers, and the importance of early intervention. Natasha also discusses the significance of positive discipline, community support, and bridging the gap between law enforcement and neurodivergent individuals. With a powerful blend of personal experience and advocacy, Natasha offers hope and practical insights for families navigating neurodivergence. Timestamps: 01:13 Introduction to the episode 03:28 Natasha Nelson (Supernova Mama) and her background 07:29 The challenges of parenting as a neuro-divergent adult 10:09 Diagnosing neuro-divergence in parents when their children are diagnosed 13:49 Understanding Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs) 17:09 Systemic barriers to autism diagnosis in black communities 21:21 A role of lack fathers in supporting their neuro-divergent children. 23:03 The advice to black fathers with neuro-divergent children 27:04 Navigating Autism in Communities of Color documentary 34:57 The history of ABA therapy and how it has evolved 43:18 Natasha’s military experience and a story about a bullet hole in her MacBook 48:51 Police interaction with neuro-divergent Individuals 59:21 Advice for police officers on handling situations with neuro-divergent individuals 1:04:08 The upcoming Supernova Parenting Summit and its goals 1:14:48 - Showing Up as a Whole Human Natasha discusses being open about her neurodivergence and living authentically.

In this captivating episode , we sit down with Dr. Ajamu Nkosi, a distinguished BCBA and co-founder of the Southern Behavioral Group, to explore the profound impact of mentorship and behavior analytic consultation in schools, including his pioneering approach the BACS model. Dr. AJ shares his experiences as a Black male BCBA, discussing the importance of representation in the field and the challenges he’s overcome. We also dive into his pioneering work in school consultation, offering valuable insights for educators and practitioners. Additionally, we highlight the significance of the upcoming inaugural BMBA Conference, where Dr. AJ and other thought leaders will discuss the future of ABA, focusing on diversity, inclusion, and innovation. Join us for an enlightening conversation that spans mentorship, education, and leadership in ABA. Timestamps: 00:22 Who is Dr. AJ? 04:24 Dr. AJ's journey and early career 07:49 What keeps Dr. AJ motivated? 08:45 Pros and cons of being a business owner 12:04 The power of mentorship 16:12 The consequences of having a wrong mentor 23:56 Behavior analytic consultation in schools 29:14 The role of the parents and teachers 32:08 How to address pitfalls in the school system 37:22 The importance of early diagnosis 42:15 Requesting an independent evaluations 47:09 Being a business owner and a parent 51:10 Black men in ABA community 56:58 The future of ABA and the role of RBTs 1:01:44 The International Behavior Analysis Organization (IBAAO) 1:07:20 How to make a career in the ABA field 1:11:56 Off-the-clock segment: Personal Reflections and Future Goals

In this episode, our amazing guest Joannie, an autism mom and paramedic, shares her family's incredible journey. From viral TikTok moments to heartbreaking school struggles, Joannie's story is a powerful testament to the realities of raising children with autism. Discover her strategies for sensory-driven behaviors, her battles for quality care, and the unbreakable bond that keeps her family strong. This episode goes beyond the science, offering a raw and emotional look at the joys and challenges of autism parenting. Whether you're seeking inspiration, practical advice, or a deeper understanding of the autism experience, don’t miss this episode. Tune in now! Timestamps: 01:50 Introduction to Joannie, a mom of 2 autistic kids 02:46 Introducing autistic children to a new partner 06:59 Why spanking is not the solution? 09:38 Joni’s journey as a mother of 2 autistic kids 12:09 The diagnosis and getting quality services 19:17 Parents should educate themselves on their special education rights 24:06 Behavioral management and alternatives to spankings 29:58 Challenges of parenting autistic children 34:48 The comments after sharing their life on TikTok 37:46 Parents seek BCBA certification to help their children 43:20 Openness on social media

In this captivating episode, join us as we dive deep into the transformative world of applied behavior analysis (ABA) and its profound impact on the education system. Hear from Dr. Bruce Tinor, a pioneering BCBA and school principal, as he shares his remarkable journey from the classroom to the boardroom and his unwavering commitment to empowering black men in the field. Discover the challenges and triumphs of integrating ABA principles into schools, from navigating the complexities of restraints to fostering collaborative partnerships between educators, parents, and behavior analysts. Gain insights into the critical role of data-driven decision-making and the importance of mentorship in shaping the next generation of behavior analysis leaders. Prepare to be inspired as we explore the innovative initiatives of the Black Men in Behavior Analysis (BMBA) organization, and witness the emergence of a powerful brotherhood dedicated to amplifying the voices and experiences of black men in this dynamic field. Don't miss this opportunity to uncover the transformative potential of behavior analysis in education and beyond. Timestamps: 00:36 Introduction to Dr. Bruce Turner and his career path 07:25 Career changes in law enforcement and special education 12:26 Restraints in ABA therapy for children with severe behaviors 16:31 The importance of proactive interventions in staff training 18:34 Behavior analysts in IEP meetings and involvement of parents 24:18 Supporting black men in behavior analysis 29:32 ABA field growth and community building among black men 32:46 Importance of respect and collaboration between RBTs and BCBAs 36:33 Barriers to success like cultural disconnect and lack of support from leadership 39:24 Future GULA projects and advice for any aspiring professionals 42:44 Personal vision for education and ABA 45:44 Challenges in implementing Applied Behavioral Health in school systems 49:59 Bridging the gap between BCBAs and school administrators 1:05:52 BCBA/principal perspective and using scientific evidence in decision-making 1:07:28 ABA therapy, business, and leadership

In this groundbreaking first episode, three passionate black male professionals in Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA) come together to share their unique experiences, challenges, and triumphs. From navigating a predominantly white field to building their own businesses, these men offer raw, honest insights into diversity in ABA. They discuss the power of mentorship, community, and representation while tackling tough topics like working with aggressive older children and cultural barriers. Get ready for an eye-opening conversation that goes beyond textbook ABA and dives deep into the real-world experiences of these inspiring trailblazers. Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction to Beyond the Science podcast 00:50 Who are the hosts of the podcast? 02:00 Mission and vision of the Beyond the Science podcast 03:46 Jeron Trotman, the founder of Black Men in Behavior Analysis 04:49 Jeron Trotman, the founder of Black Men in Behavior Analysis 10:05 Joseph Adams, the owner of Adams Behavior Consulting LLC 12:48 The importance of hearing diverse voices in ABA 19:08 Challenges faced by black male ABA professionals 23:52 The power of community and mentorship 29:50 A podcast as a safe space to share information and insights https://www.instagram.com/beyond.the.science.pod https://bmbanetwork.org/ https://www.youtube.com/@BeyondTheSciencePod