Bitcoin Takeover Podcast

Recorded in January 2019 and published alongside the rest of the Bitcoin Takeover Podcast Season 1 episodes in February 2019, this interview with John Carvalho is one of the show's early hits and a statement that this initiative is able to feature unique insights from popular bitcoiners. The remastered version features enhanced audio, with some extra EQ and compression. Special thanks to Helen's Pizza for sponsoring this initiative! Time stamps: 0:00 - Intro: Why This Episode Matters 4:16 - Welcome: John Carvalho, the Bitcoin Error Log 5:17 - Bitcoin Politics and the Early Days 6:39 - The Bitcoin Foundation: Ego Platform or Useful Body? 8:53 - First Contact: Silk Road, Forums and IRC 11:40 - Buying Bitcoin in 2012: Mt. Gox, Dwolla and BitInstant 13:20 - The Foundation's Founders and Its Failures 15:45 - The Rebranding Effort and Why It Failed Again 17:04 - The Impossibility of Organizing Benevolent Bitcoin 20:04 - Bitcoin Core, Communication and the Leaderless Project 23:50 - No Official Narrative: Bitcoin's Many Stories 25:49 - Consensus as the Lowest Common Denominator 28:01 - Should Everything Be on a Blockchain? 28:58 - Surviving Market Cycles: Everyone Who Sold Was Wrong 32:46 - Bitcoins Want to Be Free: The Lord of the Rings Theory 34:05 - Roger Ver Attacks Andreas Antonopoulos 37:08 - How Big Is Bitcoin Really? The Coinbase Illusion 40:52 - Media Conglomerates and Hidden Concentration 42:13 - Decentralization Theater and arewedecentralizedyet.com 42:47 - Refusing BitPay and Political Spending 44:46 - Censorship Resistance as Bitcoin's Core Purpose 46:46 - Debunking "Swiss Bank Account in Your Pocket" 48:26 - What Caused the 2017 Bull Run? 51:31 - Stocks as Stores of Value and What Bitcoin Will Cure 53:44 - No College Degree: Comic Books, Punk Rock and Design 56:19 - Massachusetts [Redacted]: Growing Up Arguing 57:21 - Preparing for the Roger Ver Interview 58:32 - The Bcash Moment: Triggered, Not Scripted 1:00:46 - Roger's Debate Tactics: Zoom In, Zoom Out 1:04:36 - Skepticism as a Survival Skill 1:05:32 - Blockstream: Great Developers, Unclear Business Model 1:09:28 - r/btc Conspiracies and the AXA Myth 1:13:48 - Roger's War Chest and the Cost of Fighting Markets 1:18:17 - Will Roger Ever Come Back to Bitcoin? 1:20:40 - Pepe Politics and the Attention Economy 1:22:11 - The Evolution of Bitcoin and the Lightning Generation 1:23:06 - Bitrefill, Gift Cards and the Circular Economy 1:26:09 - Steemit Critique: Gamify, Don't Scam 1:27:16 - Brave, BAT and the Nonsense of Paid Attention 1:30:52 - Hitchcock's Bladder Rule and Final Questions 1:31:55 - Hyperbitcoinization: Hype, Greed and Small Wins 1:35:17 - Nation States Secretly Accumulating Bitcoin? 1:36:29 - Bitcoin and the Shift in Global Power 1:39:32 - Merchant Adoption and the Tax Man Problem 1:42:06 - Bitcoin in 10 Years: Disruption Incoming 1:43:43 - Bitcoin Is a Consensus Ponzi (and So Is All Money) 1:44:26 - The Cantillon Effect and Inflationary Money 1:47:59 - Closing: A Bitcoin Every Thousand Years

Donald Hugh McIntyre passed in 2025, but is remembered as one of the most insightful polymaths... while his blog Etherplan lives on. The episode came out in the first week of February 2019, ran two hours, and set the genetic code for Bitcoin Takeover podcast. Time stamps: 00:02:45 – Introduction: who is Donald McIntyre 00:04:49 – Was Bitcoin inevitable? 00:06:29 – 10,000 years of top-down structures vs 3.5 million years of evolution 00:08:27 – Cypherpunks: Chaum, Tim May, Nick Szabo 00:09:43 – The ancient desire for unconfiscatable money 00:11:55 – Bitcoin as a bottom-up system 00:12:39 – Living in a dual world: banks vs private keys 00:15:02 – Trusted third parties are security holes 00:16:40 – Nick Szabo's social scalability explained 00:18:27 – Why banking excludes: the unbanked in the US and Latin America 00:20:14 – Privacy, intelligence agencies & the false sense of security 00:21:13 – Is Bitcoin enough to make people demand decentralization? 00:23:23 – Asia's interest in Ethereum Classic & immutability 00:24:51 – Mt. Gox, breaches & untrustworthy third parties 00:25:57 – Not your keys, not your coins 00:27:28 – JP Morgan's building & the marketing of strength 00:28:45 – The instant gratification bribe 00:29:58 – The tradeoff: security means inefficiency 00:31:27 – The high performance fallacy 00:32:26 – Decentralization theater & scammers 00:33:48 – Hyperbitcoinization: elites first or the people who need it? 00:36:26 – The jet set analogy: how technologies bootstrap 00:40:54 – The Lindy effect 00:41:47 – The geeks got in before the bankers 00:43:25 – The token as intrinsic to the protocol 00:46:27 – Bitcoin as a biological invention 00:47:02 – How Nick Szabo thinks (and why he went to law school) 00:48:38 – Shelling Out: the origins of money 00:51:20 – The 150-person brain & money as a bridge between strangers 00:52:39 – Dawkins & reciprocal altruism 00:53:52 – Stone tools, subjective value & the first trade 00:56:15 – Reading Szabo 30 times: one article = six months of university 01:00:52 – Lomekwi, Oldowan & Acheulean: Donald's stone tool theory 01:03:42 – Stashes of hand axes as prehistoric vaults 01:04:58 – Is money millions of years old? 01:07:51 – Darwin, Dawkins & John Maynard Smith 01:08:31 – The logic of animal conflict 01:10:53 – Territory, asymmetry & conflict minimization 01:12:08 – Money as a conflict minimization device 01:12:36 – Bitcoin's game theory & the Byzantine generals problem 01:15:32 – Chimpanzees, bipedalism & why our brains grew 01:17:19 – Bitcoin carnivores 01:17:40 – Szabo & Satoshi: the Newton-Leibniz parallel 01:19:23 – Satoshi's credits: bit gold, RPOW, Hashcash, b-money 01:19:59 – The mystery of Wei Dai 01:20:54 – Remembering Tim May 01:21:53 – The JW Weatherman interview & the CoinDesk piece 01:23:40 – Tim May as the father figure who was never satisfied 01:24:39 – Why not David Chaum? The Elixxir disappointment 01:26:35 – Never underestimate the elders 01:28:08 – What the cypherpunks built: Tor, WikiLeaks, BitTorrent 01:30:17 – Napster, Megaupload & the raid in New Zealand 01:30:30 – Cryptography as a wall: violence made useless 01:34:10 – The shifting Ethereum narrative 01:35:27 – World computer: a marketing confession 01:38:11 – The spectrum from marketers to scammers 01:39:59 – The DAO fork fight & leaving for Ethereum Classic 01:40:44 – What Ethereum Classic adds to Bitcoin 01:41:17 – Liquid & RSK: glorified trusted third parties 01:41:57 – Turing completeness on the base layer 01:43:48 – The future: four or five networks 01:44:26 – ETC's monetary policy: 210 to 230 million 01:46:19 – The 51% attack that happened that week 01:47:48 – 220,000 ETC, 15 double spends & 5,000 confirmations 01:49:15 – The $5,000 ETC thesis 01:50:37 – What happens when Ethereum moves to proof of stake 01:51:37 – ProgPoW, the issuance cut & doing everything wrong 01:52:16 – The Nick Johnson poll on reversing double spends 01:52:54 – The Parity bailout & the precedent of the DAO 01:54:53 – Bitcoin: soft forks, Schnorr & the SHA-256 exception 01:57:09 – Governments will never voluntarily give up fiat 01:59:14 – Donald's criticisms of Bitcoin 02:00:02 – The 21 million cap as a political decision 02:01:13 – The miner lobby scenario, 40 years from now 02:02:09 – Merge mining, drivechains & the super miners 02:02:14 – Miners as the future Google and Apple 02:04:46 – Paul Sztorc, Truth Coin & the guest suggestion 02:05:40 – "Do you think I have a chance with Nick Szabo?" 02:06:31 – The selfish joy of podcasting 02:09:51 – Enlightening, a Lightning pun & goodbye

Kurt Wuckert Jr. is best known for his work at Gorilla Pool and CoinGeek. In this interview, he explains why BSV formed from BCH, what are the biggest differences between the two versions of big block Bitcoin, and why he believes he found Satoshi Nakamoto. 00:49 – The Cake Wallet contest explained 01:22 – Who is Kurt Wuckert Jr? Print shop, 2012, and the making of a big blocker 02:07 – The OP_RETURN reduction that killed his tokenization project 03:28 – The Hodlonaut photo controversy in Oslo: Kurt's side of the story 07:02 – Vlad on the fallout: friendship, slander, and psychological damage 09:21 – The handshake Hodlonaut refused, and Kurt's public apology 12:03 – The irony: Hodlonaut now sounds like a 2016 big blocker 13:53 – Dan Kaminsky's 2011 gigabyte block slides 15:46 – Andrew DeSantis, world computer ideas before Vitalik 17:13 – Why Mike Hearn was Kurt's first big block influence 19:14 – BIP 101, 102, 103: when block size was not controversial 22:46 – Gavin's 8 GB by 2036 plan and Jeff Garzik's modest 2 MB 25:23 – Lightning, Liquid, and the migration of activity to other chains 29:03 – Vlad's Raspberry Pi Lightning node confession 30:42 – Jack Dorsey and the lightning bank thesis 32:19 – BTC's share of market cap vs its share of transactions 32:42 – Tether on Tron and the Tetheral Reserve 35:39 – IShowSpeed in Nigeria: USDT accepted, Visa declined 37:36 – Chat question: what if Michael Saylor called to pivot to BSV? 40:24 – Saylor's anti-development tweets and the perfectionism trap 41:37 – SPV debates and engineering for perfection 44:24 – Why Bitcoin Core devs do not stack 47:01 – The 2018 inflation bug disclosed by a BCH developer 48:23 – The DDoS attacks on Bitcoin XT nodes 48:58 – The Resolution of the Bitcoin Experiment and the Mike Hearn wish 51:18 – The merchant adoption Bitcoin lost 52:24 – WBTC's 120,000 BTC vs Lightning's 5,000 53:09 – Sponsors: Braiins, Cake Wallet, SideShift, OrangeRock, Ecash 59:38 – Kurt on drivechains and Paul Sztorc 1:03:36 – The BCH/BSV split: what actually happened in November 2018 1:08:08 – Rolling checkpoints and the night of the fork 1:11:46 – Where Kurt was when the chain split 1:16:47 – Kurt's coin strategy: the Satoshi index of unsplit UTXOs 1:21:10 – The Binance delisting wave and Paolo Ardoino's defense 1:24:17 – Who invests and builds in BSV: Calvin Ayre, Tokenovate, Gorilla Pool 1:31:41 – Kurt's presentation to one of the world's biggest banks 1:33:05 – What BSV can do that BCH cannot 1:37:04 – Satoshi's disabled opcodes and the 2010 value overflow bug 1:39:16 – The poker client and marketplace in Bitcoin v0.1 1:41:48 – BCH's ABLA, CashTokens, and the governance difference 1:47:39 – The Monero codebase stored on BSV 1:48:05 – The DAR and Blacklist Manager hard forks 1:51:03 – CZ's aborted Binance rollback 1:55:33 – The white paper's immutability clause vs DAR 2:03:55 – Vlad's dormant-coins nightmare scenario 2:08:33 – The Craig Wright verdict as proof the system works 2:11:56 – Does Kurt still think Craig Wright is Satoshi? 2:15:36 – Dave Kleiman, the Drive Wipe Fallacy, and the Satoshi writing style 2:23:28 – The key slices, Uyen Nguyen, and the missing thumb drives 2:27:50 – Vlad's counter: the California IP address 2:32:00 – Bitcoin as an American project 2:35:32 – Hodlonaut replies mid-show 2:36:29 – If Craig is Satoshi, why sue the developers? 2:44:57 – The Arnhem 2017 speech 2:50:56 – Craig's neurodivergence and the villain arc 2:59:23 – The Gavin Andresen signing ceremony 3:04:58 – The rental Lamborghini and the pattern of bending truth 3:12:31 – Ryan X Charles and the post-COPA denunciations 3:14:04 – Can BSV exist without Craig Wright? 3:19:24 – BitVM: Craig's Turing completeness claim vindicated 3:20:44 – The giveaway reveal: the number is 40 3:22:24 – Would Kurt work on anything else if BSV died? 3:24:46 – Monero, fungibility, and the historian job offer 3:26:43 – OPL.dev, Bitcoin Schema, Sigma Identity 3:29:01 – The Smashing Pumpkins truce 3:32:00 – The Epstein money vindication 3:35:12 – Kurt's plugs: Gorilla Pool, kurtwuckertjr.com, bopen.ai 3:36:12 – Vlad's promise: this episode goes on the BSV blockchain 3:38:00 – The Mike Hearn introduction request 3:38:15 – Outro and sponsor thanks

Keagan McClellan (Keags) co-founded Start9 Labs, worked on Sapio with Jeremy Rubin at Judica during the CTV saga, spent time at Lightning Labs maintaining LND, and is now building BTC Verified, a formal specification and verification project for Bitcoin's consensus rules written in Lean 4. He is also a self-described member of Bitcoin's "progressive wing" who nonetheless defends the rising bar for consensus changes, a pluralist who spends all his working hours on Bitcoin, and a security thinker who refused to dunk on Coldcard even while sitting across from someone who very much wanted him to. Time stamps: 00:00 – Intro and sound check 00:27 – Introducing Keagan "Keags" McClelland 01:14 – Bitcoin origin story: darknet markets and a CS degree in 2015 03:42 – Procrastinating at Amazon by reading ICO white papers 05:11 – Leaving Amazon for Salt Lending 06:24 – How Start9 Labs was founded 07:52 – Leaving Start9 for Jeremy Rubin's Judica (Sapio) 09:47 – What CTV (formerly OP_SECURE_THE_BAG) enables 12:35 – Mastercoin's original pitch, Rare Pepes, and play before serious use 15:44 – The Lindy effect and institutional inertia 18:20 – Sponsors + giveaway rules 22:24 – The road to Lightning Labs and LND 23:55 – Lightning as a complexity class change 25:28 – Data locality, privacy, and incentives in payment channels 27:33 – The 133 MB block problem 30:20 – Scaling takes decades: internet lessons 31:24 – Centralization, Moore's law, and what scaled the web 34:58 – Zcash's Near Intents as outsourced Bitcoin privacy 37:05 – Pluralism and the freedom to transact 39:05 – The gravitational well of money 41:36 – When does a shitcoin stop being a shitcoin? 45:43 – Every soft fork since Satoshi 47:36 – The consensus wall: CTV and BIP300 51:56 – BIP 110 case study: incoherent goals, broken design 56:05 – Why information theory defeats spam filters 58:56 – Node mythology and economic weight 1:05:17 – Miners can activate invisible soft forks 1:07:18 – Luke's soft fork definition and herd immunity 1:10:45 – Chat drama and "how much Bitcoin do you own?" 1:14:15 – RBF, Bitrefill, and policy vs consensus 1:17:21 – Can fees alone secure Bitcoin? The 50% hash rate threshold 1:24:56 – Giveaway reveal: the number is 37 1:26:55 – The Coldcard exploit 1:34:10 – The AI exploit era: "cannot be affected" vs "have not been" 1:39:13 – Why the conspiracy theories teach the wrong lesson 1:42:51 – Against security through obscurity 1:47:27 – Onboarding friction and the paranoia continuum 1:55:42 – Vaults explained, and building them without CTV 2:00:42 – Pre-signed transactions, toxic waste, and Liana 2:05:45 – Would covenants have saved Coldcard users? (No) 2:16:53 – Magic wand: why Simplicity beats CTV and GSR 2:20:33 – Witness size, block size, and what BCH got right 2:24:50 – Why Bitcoin should copy homework 2:29:49 – The two hard forks: BIP 110 vs Ecash 2:33:16 – BTC Verified: formal verification of Bitcoin consensus 2:37:10 – TABConf plans 2:39:23 – Outro and sponsor thanks

n August 2026, eCash (ECX) comes out in its alpha phase: leading up to a final complete rollout on October 31st 2026, Bitcoin's 18th birthday. To better explain how this process will take place and why every bitcoiner should try BIP300 this Halloween, Paul Sztorc joins the show for a record-breaking 11th time! Time stamps: 00:01:17 – Welcome: Paul Sztorc for the 11th time, a new record 00:01:42 – Four months since the hard fork announcement 00:02:00 – The three phase rollout: alpha, beta, October 31st mainnet 00:02:25 – Why the launch was delayed: summer, Coldcard hack, BIP 110 00:03:04 – Practice runs: 1,000 test coins convert to 10 real eCash 00:03:55 – Alpha & beta as successors to the drivechain testnet 00:04:25 – How to claim: your Bitcoin private key & splitting transactions 00:04:42 – The fast facts GitHub repo & replay protection 00:05:07 – Why most people should not type in their main keys 00:05:27 – Mining or buying: the other ways to get eCash 00:06:04 – Mining the alpha with SHA-256D hardware 00:06:35 – The 1000:10 conversion threshold explained 00:06:51 – Why old hardware (S9s, Bitaxes) can be profitable again 00:07:17 – The launch difficulty debate: from "difficulty 1" to real data 00:08:14 – Alpha & beta as a glimpse of future price and hash rate 00:09:34 – The other fork's struggles vs planning ahead 00:10:03 – Call to action: withdraw from exchanges, accumulate BTC 00:10:24 – The network only recognizes one owner of the coin 00:10:46 – Self custody advice in a tough summer 00:11:24 – eCash vs BIP 110: honest hard fork vs 100% hash rate claims 00:12:13 – Name picking, PoW changes & the train wreck 00:13:00 – From 5 to 7 to 12 drivechains 00:13:30 – The giveaway announcement & the sponsors 00:16:07 – Thunder: scaling to 8 billion people 00:16:32 – zSide: Zcash Orchard privacy on a drivechain 00:16:48 – BitNames, BitAssets, prediction markets, CoinShift 00:17:17 – Two EVM flavors, an OP_CAT chain & a post-EVM science project 00:18:12 – Elements Plus: Blockstream's own tech, completed by the community 00:19:26 – "How many Lightning implementations at launch?" "Hopefully zero" 00:20:11 – Lightning is a dead project, the evidence is overwhelming 00:20:45 – The giveaway: Paul picks 10, the chat said 77 00:21:17 – Recap: three stages, more drivechains, October 31st 00:22:03 – Try the tech: maximizing what Bitcoin can do 00:22:53 – Rohit wins the prize & the shortest Sztorc interview ever 00:23:59 – The autumn of forks: BIP 110 delays, eCash extends to Halloween 00:24:23 – Bitcoin's 18th birthday on the metzdowd mailing list 00:24:49 – Why drivechains: all fees go to proof of work miners 00:25:38 – Hoping a Bitcoin competitor pushes Bitcoin forward 00:28:02 – Twelve drivechains you can test today

I met Yonatan Sompolinsky in Romania during his summer holiday, so we decided to do a roadtrip interview about covenants, the state of Kaspa development, why intents are more interesting than smart contracts & stag hunts. 00:00:54 – Intro: a road trip with Yonatan Sompolinsky 00:01:50 – Life since S16 E41: Oxford Union & the state of Kaspa 00:02:53 – Kaspa shipped covenants while Bitcoin debates OP_CAT 00:04:24 – Sequencing commitments & based apps explained 00:06:48 – Why OP_CAT alone can't do censorship-resistant based rollups 00:07:21 – BitVM & optimistic vs optimistically verified rollups 00:08:05 – ZK was born for privacy but lives for scaling 00:09:18 – "For the record, I'm very bearish on rollups" 00:12:27 – Ethereum quietly abandons the L2 roadmap 00:13:33 – What ZK is actually for: a thin L1 & separation of layers 00:15:05 – Kaspa follows Bitcoin's UTXO design principles 00:16:04 – Ephemeral logic: generalized atomic swaps 00:17:25 – Camera gymnastics & an Aston Martin 00:19:28 – What covenants won't give you: the DeFi Lego box 00:20:05 – One-time logic vs contract deployment 00:23:18 – The use case question & crypto's crisis of utility 00:26:17 – Bitcoin the turtle & the DAGKnight progress report 00:28:17 – DAGKnight: 49% Byzantine resilience, no latency parameter 00:29:50 – Why 100 BPS on GHOSTDAG would 8x confirmation times 00:30:21 – Sponsors: Cake Wallet, LayerTwo Labs, Braiins, Orange Rock & SideShift 00:34:33 – Zcash made a comeback 00:35:19 – The mental map: where Kaspa is unique 00:38:49 – Real-time decentralization: sampling the honest majority 00:39:47 – Solana & Hyperliquid: fast, but led by one 00:42:46 – Only proof of work bundles proposing & content 00:44:35 – A bear market in usage, not just price 00:45:53 – Old-world use case: bridges & oracles 00:47:22 – Tourism break: Bușteni, mascots & ski resorts 00:49:38 – Hit-and-run agents & the agentic economy 00:51:06 – Having your cake and eating it too 00:54:32 – Vlad on Ecash, miner fees & Satoshi's biggest bet 00:56:37 – Sinaia & the royal train station 00:57:38 – "Bitcoin is dead boring to me at this stage" 00:59:50 – Ironwood, verifiable supply & Tachyon 01:00:39 – Driving like six confirmations 01:01:59 – The tectonic shift nobody noticed: verifying the supply 01:03:43 – The bug & Zcash's unfixable history 01:06:04 – Kaspa's pruning vs historical correctness 01:08:12 – How Zcash's rise paves the way for Kaspa 01:09:17 – The Zooko sleeping-in-the-car story 01:10:32 – "Just launch": Zooko one day before the Sapling bug 01:12:05 – Downplaying the bug & the counterfeit scenario 01:14:34 – Peter Todd's demurrage & the Ironwood migration 01:17:25 – Would any other coin survive this? 01:18:55 – Ethereum's identity crisis 01:21:28 – Back to L1: too little, too late; Solana's cohesion 01:22:46 – Oxford Union & political ambitions 01:24:44 – Hayek: true vs false individualism 01:26:04 – The isolated individual: Lopp, Poelstra & early Bitcoiners 01:32:52 – The enthusiastic individualist 01:34:52 – Coordination markets & Project Stag Hunt 01:35:19 – Prisoner's dilemma vs stag hunt 01:36:24 – Moloch, the demon of defection 01:37:18 – Part 2: stag hunt as the optimistic game 01:42:43 – Intents & NEAR Intents 01:44:03 – Intents vs smart contracts 01:45:21 – Part 3: Rousseau's ape men 01:49:45 – Intendos: "if many sign this, consider mine signed" 01:51:44 – Example: migrating a liquidity pool together 01:53:34 – Pack formation & threshold homomorphic encryption 01:55:42 – Actionable but not committed 01:57:18 – The Netflix example: voice for the scattered majority 02:01:36 – Who are the stags we need to hunt? 02:02:11 – Minarchist, anarchist or libertarian? 02:03:32 – Stag = shared utility; escaping Ethereum's L2 mess 02:06:28 – Composable Intendos 02:07:58 – Exiting network effects 02:09:11 – The Kaspa-Ethereum overlap: GHOST & Casper 02:11:55 – "I don't like DAGs": it's just a data structure 02:12:51 – Why DAGKnight survives a world war 02:15:22 – Michael Sutton & the Argent language 02:16:58 – Bypassing the impossibility theorem 02:18:06 – Ahead of his time or poor communicator? 02:19:31 – BPS vs TPS: the shift already happened 02:21:05 – Falling between the cracks 02:23:17 – The next narrative: coordination markets 02:24:26 – Brașov to Bucharest: documenting the trip 02:25:31 – Roles reversed: Yonatan interviews Vlad 02:27:06 – ACTA protests, internet freedom & political science 02:28:53 – Sztorc's party metaphor 02:29:57 – Zcash at $30 & the Coldcard hack 02:31:40 – What Kaspa actually needs: wallets, not exchanges 02:33:56 – Broadening cypherpunk: from protective to positive 02:37:16 – What have we really accomplished? 02:39:33 – Arriving at the Palace of Parliament 02:43:57 – The secret handshake & farewell

Vinny Lingham is a Bitcoin OG who pioneered gift card payments in 2012 with Gyft, served on the board of the Bitcoin Foundation, spearheaded blockchain identity verification with CIvic, and in more recent years moved on to managing risk with Praxos Capital. Thanks to some of his accurate price predictions, Vinny has also received the nickname "The Oracle". In this episode, we talk about his Bitcoin journey and how his views have evolved over the last 14 years. Time stamps: 00:01:06 Intro & sponsors: Vinny Lingham, 15 years in Bitcoin 00:02:04 Gyft: a dozen companies and one gift card problem 00:02:26 Chargebacks, stolen cards & getting attacked by scammers 00:04:13 Why Bitcoin looked like the perfect payment rail 00:04:51 Zero-conf payments and the first-seen rule 00:05:48 The Starbucks and McDonald's signature math 00:06:51 100,000 Bitcoin payments, zero double spends 00:07:13 Civic's Bitcoin patents & the 2017 fee explosion 00:07:37 Blockstream, Adam Back, MIT and the Epstein files 00:08:10 Core keeps pruning dissenting voices 00:08:55 Why Bitcoin still can't be the whitepaper's payment system 00:09:08 Counterparty, Mastercoin & the birth of Ethereum 00:09:34 "Nothing has happened in Bitcoin in five years" 00:10:16 Why he went and backed Solana instead 00:10:23 Sympathy for BIP 110 over Core 00:11:08 Inscriptions can be done many ways 00:12:27 "Lightning will be ready in 18 months" forever 00:13:26 Drivechains, BIP 300 & the Ecash fork paying miners 00:14:44 UX, mainstream users and idiot-proof money 00:15:17 People who don't know you can hold BTC outside an ETF 00:15:27 Is the ETF the real scaling layer? 00:15:37 What Vinny signed up for when he read the whitepaper 00:16:30 Wayne Vaughn in the chat 00:16:48 Saylor's Bitcoin Security Consortium and the $15M 00:17:24 Saylor argues against bigger blocks and covenants 00:17:49 How is this different from the Bitcoin Foundation? 00:18:36 Saylor as systemic risk: crashing the minority fork 00:19:43 Losing SPV and the simplicity of early Bitcoin 00:20:48 When did you last actually use Bitcoin? 00:21:22 Six confirmations vs Apple Pay 00:21:41 Gyft's customers who had no credit cards 00:22:07 Not a store of value: a store of liquidity 00:23:24 So what is a store of value, exactly? 00:26:00 The 100 year test: one ounce of gold buys one suit 00:27:09 Does the whitepaper ever say "digital gold"? 00:27:53 Saylor's redefinition: expensive to move, held by institutions 00:28:08 Privacy, tiny payments and why volume creates stability 00:28:42 Exchanges are layer two, Lightning is layer three 00:29:06 Solana at the World Series of Poker 00:30:07 BSV, Teranode, BCH and who actually handles volume 00:30:58 Does everyone really need to run a node? 00:31:30 Luke Dashjr, 16MB blocks and 50 billion Catholics 00:33:34 Arguing with someone who redefines words 00:34:33 How did Blockstream become so politically powerful? 00:35:40 Reid Hoffman's $20 million 00:36:26 Reading the Epstein files with Bitcoin eyes 00:36:45 Tether won the global south instead 00:37:42 "The community is people who never built anything" 00:38:00 Why Elon Musk walked away from Bitcoin 00:39:07 The ESG excuse & the Bitcoin Mining Council 00:40:05 Elon on bandwidth, latency and second layers 00:41:03 Why Civic started on Bitcoin and left 00:42:05 Multicoin, the Solana seed round & founding Praxos 00:42:29 Why "Civic" and not "Supra" 00:42:46 Nobody wants identity: crypto's actual number one use case 00:44:03 Zcash's comeback, Ironwood & the auditable supply 00:45:34 Delistings and the headwinds facing privacy coins 00:46:06 Why Zcash chose DeFi rails over merchant adoption 00:47:07 How to know you're in a bear market 00:47:25 Elgamarov & how small this world really is 00:48:10 What does Vinny actually hold today? 00:49:27 Praxos: delta neutral, funding rates and volatility 00:51:44 Sponsors: Braiins, Cake Wallet, SideShift, LayerTwo Labs, Orange Rock 00:54:40 Wayne Vaughn's question: will the CLARITY Act pass? 00:56:47 Michael Saylor and the Strategy problem 00:57:14 The GBTC discount scenario 00:58:16 Why August could be a bloodbath 01:01:56 Node counts, sybil attacks and hash rate 01:03:16 The rewritten history of SegWit and SegWit2x 01:04:19 How Bitcoin Cash became the fallback plan 01:04:59 Gavin Andresen and the word "bamboozled" 01:06:00 Was Craig Wright involved at all? 01:08:04 Hal Finney's logs and the Van Nuy, California IP address 01:08:55 GMX, German privacy law and the missing paper trail 01:11:17 Roger Ver, the checksum test and Craig 01:13:00 Asking Claude who Satoshi is 01:14:17 The case for Nick Szabo and the trusted third parties 01:15:31 The counterfactual: what if Bitcoin had scaled? 01:19:35 Tron, USDT and five years of outperforming BTC 01:20:09 Bitcoiners understand supply, not demand 01:20:36 What happens when the block rewards run out 01:21:15 Rentable SHA256 and the state actor attack scenario 01:22:54 Will Vinny claim the August fork airdrops?

Cory Klippsten is the CEO of Swan Bitcoin, the promoter and former adviser of the Sequans BTC treasury, and also a big advocate for bitcoin-only maximalism. In this episode, we catch up on what's been going on over the last year in Bitcoin. Time stamps: 00:01:59 – The challenges and failures of leveraged Bitcoin equity strategies in the U.S., referencing companies like Sequans, Strike, and Strategy. 00:04:48 – Swan and the relaunch of "Bitcoin Cafe," a daily show that started on Clubhouse and later moved to Twitter. 00:05:48 – Cory introduces his new framework for understanding Bitcoin adoption, inspired by recent government actions, and frames it as a generational fight for monetary independence and freedom. 00:10:41 – Cory outlines Swan’s mission to promote Bitcoin adoption and self-custody, highlighting their "50 Days for Freedom" campaign with reduced fees to encourage participation. 00:14:39 – Cory shares stories from his grandfather’s WWII journal, drawing parallels between maintaining calm and responsibility during wartime and navigating challenging times in Bitcoin. 00:18:56 – Cory responds to a viewer’s question about his compensation for advising Sequans, disclosing that he received stock options and a small cash retainer. 00:22:09 – August 2026 Bitcoin hard forks & their economic impact. 00:29:25 – Cory explains his perspective on Bitcoin’s adoption, describing it as progressing through three sequential S-curves: store of value, medium of exchange, and unit of account. 00:30:33 – Cory voices skepticism about the new Bitcoin Development Consortium, particularly regarding the proposal to freeze Satoshi’s coins as part of their funding approach. 00:35:51 – The conversation addresses the increasing corporate and crypto-focused sponsorship of Bitcoin conferences, using the Las Vegas event as an example of this shift. 00:43:21 – Cory reflects on the evolution of Bitcoin content creation, contrasting the high-signal era of 2018 with today’s prevalence of AI-generated, lower-quality material. 01:02:51 – Cory explains Swan’s business model, emphasizing the separation of brokerage and custody to promote self-custody and ensure alignment with user interests. 01:09:26 – Cory discusses Swan’s ongoing educational initiatives, including the Swan Canon learning modules and the release of the "Bitcoin Season" documentary.

Ever since he first received his first bitcoin in 2013, Joël Valenzuela has been on a quest to use free market electronic cash to pay for everything. Today, he is still unbanked and looking for ways to make instant payments without a bank account. He is best known for working for the DASH cryptocurrency project. But over the years, he's collaborated with plenty of other projects (mostly those related with private payments) and he possesses a wealth of knowledge in terms of adoption, everyday use as money, and user experience. Since Joël practices what he preaches and lives without fiat or banks, he is a bona fide advocate of inconvenience: using ATMs, purchasing gift cards, and trying every workaround that helps him accomplish the mission of never using fiat currencies. 00:00:00 Intro & sponsors: living without banks with Joël Valenzuela 00:02:18 The Vlad Costea handle saga & paying X to keep your name 00:04:20 Where the "Desert Lynx" name actually comes from 00:09:04 Joël's origin story: how Peter Schiff led him to Bitcoin 00:10:16 Growing up on the border & the Mexican peso crisis 00:12:16 First Bitcoin: the Chicago pizza payback of 2013 00:14:27 Silk Road's shutdown & the chaos of the Mt. Gox era 00:18:11 Digital cash vs. hoarding: the sound money mindset 00:20:54 Earning only Bitcoin: barn work, airport rides & Porkfest 00:22:47 Declining a dream political job to go all-in on crypto 00:24:39 The bank drain that made him unbanked for good 00:26:45 Centralization risk & the tyranny of the algorithm 00:31:38 TikTok's eerily accurate (and creepy) surveillance 00:33:32 Sponsor reads & the Cake Wallet Zcash giveaway 00:37:10 Bitcoin to Dash: exploring the whole crypto space 00:41:12 Mike Hearn's "Bitcoin is a failed project" rage quit 00:42:19 Bitcoin's usability failures: the pants & coffee stories 00:46:48 Picking Dash off CoinMarketCap as usable money 00:50:44 Dash founders: Evan Duffield & Amanda B. Johnson 00:55:20 Fluffy Pony, "Dash is trash" & the Miami strip-club drama 00:59:54 Reading the hate comments: the "premine cabal" 01:01:11 Litecoin's alleged inflation bug & Charlie Lee 01:04:07 Did Dash have a premine? The actual definition 01:13:09 Xcoin to Darkcoin to Dash: the name evolution 01:15:32 Master nodes, InstantSend & deterministic finality 01:18:18 The self-funding DAO treasury explained 01:22:01 Max Kaiser, John McAfee & the paid-shill era 01:29:43 What made Satoshi different & the genesis block message 01:33:57 Roger Ver, linear thinking & money as a tool 01:37:39 The 6.15 BTC "generational wealth" meme 01:41:47 BCH Bliss & why small conferences beat the corporate ones 01:46:00 Bitcoin forks: are all these coins really "bitcoins"? 01:50:54 Dash tech history: proof of service & chain locks 01:53:22 Evolution: the enshrined sidechain & DAPI 02:00:24 Adding Zcash-level privacy: the Orchard shielded pool 02:05:17 Orchard vs. Ironwood & the inflation-bug question 02:09:50 Turnstiles: why an inflation bug can't kill Dash 02:11:50 Monero's FCMP++ & why its privacy is "perishable" 02:16:56 Privacy UX, MiCA rules & unshielding to exchanges 02:23:22 Which wallets will support shielded Dash 02:27:34 Umbrel, Lightning & the pain of self-hosting 02:28:44 The for-profit ecosystem & the $15M dev "consortium" 02:34:53 Zcash's comeback: from industry joke to spotlight 02:37:23 Routing around fiat: Thorchain, Maya & DEXes 02:46:59 The number reveal & socializing the giveaway 02:50:02 Privacy as consent, not secrecy 02:51:49 The real challenges of living unbanked 02:58:35 Local AI models & maxing out privacy you don't need 03:04:31 Getting cancelled & how Zooko unblocked Vlad 03:13:03 Demaximizing & the toxic privacy-coin wars 03:21:35 When Zcash nearly built on Monero 03:25:45 Quai Network & transparent "cash-like" privacy 03:32:38 Why Dash focused on payments, not smart contracts 03:36:31 Crypto's consolidation: projects quietly going to zero 03:42:12 XEC, Amaury & bootstrapping off a fork 03:57:47 Monero vs. Zcash: marketing, memes & narratives 04:02:46 Why Joel really lives on crypto: getting real data 04:04:58 "Use it or die": the end of the narrative cycle 04:06:41 The private-equity playbook for buying dying coins 04:11:27 Why Dash is too decentralized to acquire 04:15:49 Which chains get acquired and shut down next 04:24:01 Neptune Cash, Neptune Dash & the first-ever DAT 04:36:57 The Charlie Shrem Dash debit card saga 04:38:46 Tone Vays & other Bitcoiners who dabbled in Dash 04:43:15 Cypherpunk Week Amsterdam & DashCon 04:50:56 Secret Word

S17 E32: Perry E. Metzger on Bitcoin in 2008, Cypherpunk Culture & AI Optimism Time stamps: 00:00:50 - Introducing Perry E. Metzger 00:03:06 - Perry Metzger's Background 00:06:04 - The Cryptography Mailing List's Origins 00:07:36 - "The Code Breakers" & Early Influences in Cryptography 00:11:19 - The Cypherpunks Era and PGP 00:22:08 - The State of Cryptography in 2008 00:24:20 - Satoshi's Bitcoin Announcement on Metzdowd 00:28:52 - Bitcoin's Key Innovations 00:32:39 - Critique of Proof of Work 00:36:21 - Sponsors 00:40:10 - Scalability and Future Challenges 00:48:41 - Initial Reactions to Bitcoin 00:51:21 - Early Criticisms of Bitcoin from James A. Donald & Ray Dillinger 01:05:16 - Perry's Moderation of the Bitcoin Discussion 01:08:16 - Satoshi's Anonymity and Mailing List Logs 01:11:19 - Perry's Comic Book on Computer Science 01:16:13 - The Metzger Dowdeswell Mailing List Today 01:23:04 - Perry's Interest in AI 01:47:03 - AI Advocacy and Combating "Doomers" 01:49:19 - The Extropy Mailing List 01:51:01 - Conclusion and How to Follow Perry Metzger

Alex Waltz is a prominent Bitcoin historian and film maker, who specializes in digging up information from the first months of Bitcoin's existence. Recently, he launched the ”First Bitcoin Miner” project in order to question whether or not Hal Finney truly was the second mining node on the Bitcoin network. In this episode, we talk about his work and some geeky facts about Bitcoin's history. Read Bitcoin: Year One (free download): https://bitcoin-takeover.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/Bitcoin-Year-One-Vlad-Costea-Ani-Comic-Book-Demo.pdf Read Alex's research: https://1stbitcoinminer.com Sponsors: Proudly sponsored by Orangerock.com: Trade Without Limits Orangerock is the pro trading terminal that fits in your pocket. Perps and spot, instant cross-chain swaps, and a self-custodial wallet. Trade crypto, stocks, and commodities with up to 40x leverage. Your keys, no surveillance. Get app: https://go.orangerock.com/bitcoin-takeover Sideshift, the place where you can exchange your stablecoins for unconfiscatable, free market money: https://sideshift.ai LayerTwo Labs, creators of BIP300 and builders of the Drivechain. Now they're hard forking Bitcoin to create Ecash too: https://ecash.com Cake Wallet, your privacy-friendly self-custody companion. Enables silent payments, PayJoins & Lightning for Bitcoin. Also supports Monero, Zcash, Zano & more. Available on desktop & mobile: https://cakewallet.com Time stamps: 00:00:41 Introducing Alex Waltz & His Projects 00:03:34 The Philosophy of Art and Filmmaking 00:05:18 Alex's Research for "First Bitcoin Miner" 00:09:28 The First Bitcoin Miners: Hal Finney vs. Dustin Trammell 00:14:37 Early Bitcoin History and Cypherpunk Involvement 00:21:28 Debating Sergio Lerner's "Patoshi" Research 00:25:39 The Technicals of the Patoshi Pattern 00:37:30 Zcash Giveaway Announcement 00:40:10 The Research Process and Dedication 00:43:11 Analyzing Early Bitcoin Block Times 00:50:35 Explaining the Extra Nonce and Network Halts 01:10:18 Satoshi Was in California? 01:25:49 Why This Research Matters 01:36:18 Feedback and Cinematography 01:49:25 The "Satoshi's Don't Exist" Movie Saga 02:00:41 The Bitcoin Community: Then and Now 02:18:43 The "Knots" Fork Controversy & Moral Panic 02:30:39 The Future of Bitcoin Development 02:34:38 Bitcoin's Use Case: Payments vs. Store of Value 02:46:33 What Is The Point of Bitcoin? 02:56:38 Alex's First Bitcoin Purchase 03:00:38 Early Bitcoin Wallets 03:16:20 Mircea Popescu: A Bitcoin Legend 03:48:07 Growing Up in 90s Romania 04:00:48 Final Message: Take Risks and Build

Martin Matejka is the CEO of Firefish, a company which offers a platform where BTC holders can connect with fiat borrowers in order to achieve the ”never sell your bitcoin” status. In this episode, we talk about how these BTC-backed loans work, and also pursue a more philosophical conversation about the purpose of Bitcoin and whether or not it's currently achieving it. Sponsors: Proudly sponsored by Orangerock.com: Trade Without Limits Orangerock is the pro trading terminal that fits in your pocket. Perps and spot, instant cross-chain swaps, and a self-custodial wallet. Trade crypto, stocks, and commodities with up to 40x leverage. Your keys, no surveillance. Get app: https://go.orangerock.com/bitcoin-takeover Sideshift, the place where you can exchange your stablecoins for unconfiscatable, free market money: https://sideshift.ai LayerTwo Labs, creators of BIP300 and builders of the Drivechain. Now they're hard forking Bitcoin to create Ecash too: https://ecash.com Cake Wallet, your privacy-friendly self-custody companion. Enables silent payments, PayJoins & Lightning for Bitcoin. Also supports Monero, Zcash, Zano & more. Available on desktop & mobile: https://cakewallet.com Time stamps: 00:01:14 Intro & sponsors: meet Martin Matejka of Firefish 00:02:11 "Making Bitcoin lending right this time": BlockFi & Celsius PTSD 00:02:53 How the loan marketplace works in a nutshell 00:03:36 The book: "Bitcoin, the Ultimate Collateral" 00:04:31 Why Bitcoin as collateral vs. digital cash 00:05:17 The Elon Musk playbook: borrow, don't sell 00:06:55 "Once I stopped seeing Bitcoin as an investment, life got better" 00:07:24 Being short fiat: the mortgage mindset 00:08:24 Vlad's pushback: spending fuels the system & miner fees 00:09:35 Liquidation risk & timing loans to the market cycle 00:12:14 Staying safe: 50% LTV and "a machine gun in your hands" 00:13:35 Coming soon: loans with no liquidation mechanism 00:15:17 Why Bitcoin-backed loans are still too expensive 00:16:00 Scaling up: 27,000 users, $160M loans, 4,500 BTC 00:17:05 "Almost as much Bitcoin as the Lightning Network" 00:20:22 Why he founded Firefish: a finance guy's contribution 00:21:38 Firefish explained simply: the marketplace model 00:23:12 The tech: escrow, presigned transactions & DLC-like logic 00:24:41 The "zombie apocalypse" recovery transaction 00:26:06 What's the catch? Avoiding the "trust me bro" mandate 00:28:11 Preventing rehypothecation via Bitcoin itself 00:28:45 How Firefish makes money: the origination fee 00:29:33 Promo code BTCTKVR for 30% lower fees on Firefish 00:30:50 Bitcoin-native DeFi vs. bridging & wrapping 00:32:07 Stablecoins, currencies & US availability 00:34:09 Cypherpunk loan settlement & the dispute mechanism 00:37:37 Why 3-of-3 multisig instead of 2-of-3 00:38:31 Oracles, ephemeral borrower keys & how signing works 00:40:01 Lenders need no keys: "my parents can fund loans" 00:40:32 Beating bonds: outperforming bank deposits & tax-free loans 00:42:37 Zcash giveaway & a seed-phrase security lesson 00:45:30 Sponsors: Bitcoin.com News & Layer 2 Labs drivechains 00:48:01 Debate: is Bitcoin just software that should improve? 00:50:58 Austrian economics & "crashing the central banks" 00:51:32 The paper Bitcoin debate: gold's financialization 00:53:29 Trust minimization, Nick Szabo & God protocols 00:55:10 Covenants & understanding both sides of Bitcoin's civil war 01:00:42 The spam/filtering debate & permissionless transactions 01:02:33 Satoshi's Genesis block message & arbitrary data history 01:06:09 "We're stuck debating spam" — limited supply as core value 01:08:15 The underrated educational value of Bitcoin 01:09:21 Where did the newcomers go? ETFs vs. real adoption 01:10:12 How to make Bitcoin cool again & the FTX taint 01:11:46 Eulogy for Paralelni Polis / Institute of Cryptoanarchy 01:15:44 Grandma's savings destroyed by inflation 01:17:05 The wedding money & the car that never came 01:18:03 Inflation is a much deeper problem than the CPI 01:20:24 The worst thing for Bitcoin: losing its identity 01:21:42 "Do you know what Zcash is?" Privacy vs. fixed supply 01:22:42 Competition & shitcoins: the jealousy analogy 01:23:28 Losing dominance & the Bitcoin Cash profitability metric 01:25:11 Sponsor: SideShift.ai for stablecoin swaps 01:26:11 Why try Firefish today? Rates as low as 5% 01:28:38 Closing thoughts & farewell

Grafton Clark is best known in the Bitcoin space for his work at SatoshiLabs and Vexl. But more recently, he discovered vibe coding and completely fell in love with it. In this episode, we talk about all the cool stuff you can just build with help from AI... and where Bitcoin fits into this equation. Hopefully, this dialogue will inspire you to create something cool, that reignites your love for computers. Time stamps: 00:00:36 Intro: Grafton on freedom of transactions & cash 00:01:45 Breaking FUD: onboarding a friend through gaming 00:03:13 Writing for humans or for AI to summarize? 00:05:40 The internet's resurgence & discovering Nostr 00:07:42 Digital ID & age verification fears 00:08:03 Gem: the "Cool For Free" iPod scheme story 00:09:30 Cake Wallet Zcash giveaway setup 00:10:14 "I don't want hardware anymore" — build your own tools 00:12:04 Building an Apple Watch live-music app in 3 days 00:13:28 Roadstr, mesh networks & freedom tech 00:16:27 The vibe coding debate 00:20:18 Grafton's setup: Mac Mini, OpenClaw & self-hosting 00:23:25 Taming a giant live-music library with AI 00:25:35 Learning vs regurgitating: AI and education 00:26:38 Two sides of everything: Bitcoiners love to argue 00:28:28 Why a Zcash giveaway? Zerocash history explained 00:30:03 "That was the whole idea of maximalism" 00:30:48 The Monero address troll 00:32:20 Sending Zcash via Cake Wallet 00:33:22 No CEO, no HR: why Satoshi disappearing matters 00:35:08 Zcash vs Monero: comparing the privacy tech 00:36:46 The culture problem: HODLing vs spending 00:40:03 Hot take: "If you don't use Bitcoin as money, it's a Ponzi" 00:40:47 Michael Saylor, pizza day & the Manhattan quote 00:41:57 Pokemon cards & what makes a "real" Bitcoiner 00:43:21 Buying a Nintendo Switch with Bitcoin 00:44:35 Find "digital gold" in the white paper 00:46:36 Satoshi never envisioned KYC 00:48:14 Gem: privacy means "dance like no one's watching" 00:51:08 The Hawk Tuah girl & normalizing overexposure 00:54:25 Brands as verbs & Gen Z's "ask chat" 00:57:05 Millennials, analog cravings & LLM imperfections 00:59:01 Futurama, AI dependence & moving to a farm 01:01:09 Impostor syndrome & the meaning of work 01:02:46 UBI, Idiocracy & doomscrolling 01:04:31 Gem: the Super Bowl's most powerful ad 01:06:35 Is today's propaganda any different? 01:07:44 AI voice-cloning scams & protecting your parents 01:10:24 Data leaks, KYC & living life in public 01:12:08 Building forts, kids' dreams & role models today 01:17:26 Building an empire from the bedroom: EA & N64 01:18:47 Grafton's mom, the video game champion 01:21:18 Community, church & Hurricane Katrina 01:24:58 Work from home vs real socialization 01:26:46 "Is this still a Bitcoin podcast?" Does Bitcoin fix it? 01:30:01 Spend it, earn it: value for value & Juraj Bednar 01:33:31 Why onboarding friends so often fails (& Dentacoin) 01:37:08 Bitcoin is the revenge of the nerds 01:39:16 Mississippi roots & cowboy boots in Europe 01:45:04 Bitcoin.com news 01:46:26 Layer Two Labs & drivechains 01:47:17 SideShift.ai for stablecoin payments 01:48:33 Vexl: peer-to-peer, face-to-face Bitcoin trading 01:50:37 KYC kills: kidnappings & "kill your customer" 01:53:35 Coinbase & Binance KYC leaks 01:54:19 Why Saylor doesn't represent every Bitcoiner 01:56:02 Why base-layer privacy ends the Knots debate 01:57:05 AI eating Bitcoin mining & US hash rate 02:01:27 MiCA is killing European Bitcoin adoption 02:05:33 Gem: grandpa's secret $20 & why cash matters 02:07:07 Switzerland, Alexis Roussel & the right to a human 02:10:05 Privacy as the major concern with AI 02:11:18 Where to find Grafton's open source projects

Josh Swihart is the founder of ZODL: the Zcash Open Development Lab. Basically a for profit reincarnation of the old Electric Coin Company, which inherited the dev teams and projects. During his previous Bitcoin Takeover podcast appearance in November 2024 (S15 E62), Zcash was a struggling privacy project with very little support and a rather disappointing price action. In June 2026, Zcash is the rising star of the cryptocurrency market, with plans to scale to billions of users and ever-improving shielding technology. In this episode, we talk about the good, the bad, and the controversial moments in the recent history of Zcash... and why Bitcoin didn't activate Zerocash yet. Time stamps: 00:01:14 Intro: Josh Swihart returns after 20 months 00:02:07 Why Zcash is "in a class of its own" (and self-defeating) 00:03:28 Shielded note Q: the run on the Orchard pool before Iron Wood 00:05:22 What are shielded pools? Sprout, Sapling, Orchard explained 00:06:26 The Orchard vulnerability found by Taylor Hornby 00:06:48 Why Zcash matters to Bitcoin: Zerocoin, Zerocash, Halo 2 00:09:06 The secret: from near-delisting at $30 to near top 10 00:11:03 Governance battles, killing the dev fund, refocusing ECC 00:13:03 Peacemonger research and focusing on the first 100 users 00:14:09 Keystone, NEAR intents swaps, and shielded pool growth 00:15:23 Reflexivity and the macro case (Canadian truckers, seizures) 00:16:32 Cake Wallet, Vic Sharma, and the ZEC integration recognition problem 00:17:57 The Monero rivalry and the privacy renaissance 00:19:35 "Cypherpunk does not mean criminal": Samourai vs Wasabi 00:23:04 Railgun comparison and why fungibility matters 00:25:02 Zmap, Flexa, and spending shielded ZEC in stores 00:26:21 Buying lunch at Chipotle and a Ford F150 truck with Zcash 00:27:33 Giveaway setup + sponsors 00:30:32 Why is Zcash "lied about a ton"? 00:34:03 Debunking the low anonymity-set myth and DeFi integrations 00:35:48 "Main character syndrome," paid FUD, and the influencer claim 00:38:50 Uncorrelated price + maximalist FUD around the Orchard bug 00:40:40 The ethics of disclosure and Taylor Hornby's character 00:45:03 The security budget problem and Network Sustainability Module 00:46:56 Scaling Zcash: Tachyon, recursion, and off-chain services 00:49:35 Do shielded memos bloat the chain? 00:51:32 The shielded stablecoins / shielded assets debate 00:58:31 Last giveaway call + ZODL phone overheating 00:59:12 New user Q: where's the privacy when you spend? 01:01:02 Shielded vs transparent transactions explained 01:03:22 Number reveal and winners 01:06:39 Crypto Visa/Mastercard debit cards: winning or losing? 01:09:56 Has Bitcoin been co-opted? Adam Back and incentives 01:15:20 What stops Zcash from being co-opted like Bitcoin? 01:19:52 Decentralization and killing the trademark agreement 01:21:31 Many orgs now: Foundation, Shielded Labs, Tachyon, Valor 01:23:21 No funding from exchanges or mining pools 01:26:04 ZODL origin: Balaji, fundraising, and the ECC split 01:29:17 ZODL's business model: 50 bps on swaps 01:30:01 Hardware wallets: Keystone, Passport, Trezor Safe 7 01:34:07 How Slush discovered Bitcoin through Zooko 01:35:37 Zcash ASIC demand and decentralizing mining 01:38:51 ECC wind-down, the Bootstrap settlement, and dev funds 01:42:38 Thoughts on ZNS (Zcash Naming Service) 01:44:47 Living with the FUD and "Zionist coin" conspiracies 01:46:31 Why disclose the bug publicly? Transparency vs trust 01:48:18 Inside the emergency coordination with pools and exchanges 01:49:52 Echoes of Bitcoin's 2013 hard fork 01:51:49 Iron Wood and Tachyon upgrade timelines 01:53:31 Closing: the Zcash dance and where to follow Josh

Kieran Mesquka is a contributor to privacy projects, best known for his work on Railgun for Ethereum. He is also an advocate for freedom-maximizing technologies and a connoisseur of Zero Knowledge privacy. In this episode, we talk about what it's like to build shielded pools and anonymization tools in a political landscape that actively fights against it. Time stamps: 00:01:10 - Introducing Kieran Mesquka 00:02:21 - Kieran's Early Crypto Involvement, GPU Mining 00:03:54 - Discovering Bitcoin 00:06:31 - Transition to Ethereum Smart Contracts 00:10:24 - Motivation for Working on Privacy 00:20:33 - Comparing Tornado Cash and Railgun 00:26:30 - Why Tornado Cash Developers Got in Trouble 00:29:10 - The "Kieran is Satoshi" Joke 00:31:07 - General Online Privacy and Naomi Brockwell 00:33:25 - The Surveillance of Smart Devices 00:43:43 - The Problem with Subscriptions for Hardware 00:46:35 - Building Privacy for Mainstream Adoption 00:51:04 - Podcast Sponsors: Orange Rock, Cake Wallet, SideShift.AI, Layer Two Labs 00:54:49 - Technical Similarities Between Railgun and Zcash 01:00:26 - Opt-in vs. Default Privacy 01:02:37 - Why Bitcoin Lacks Advanced Privacy 01:10:32 - Railgun's Multi-Chain Presence 01:15:05 - The State of Ethereum and Privacy Demand 01:19:13 - Railgun's Elevator Pitch 01:20:47 - Railgun's Transaction Filtering System 01:29:20 - Trusting Zero-Knowledge Proofs 01:36:18 - Future of Privacy Technology 01:40:37 - How to Follow Kieran's Work

Almost 9 years since the big split of the Bitcoin community, it's time to learn more about how the Bitcoin Cash chain developed. Calin Culianu is the creator of Fulcrum, an efficient privacy-preserving SPV client. Steve Thurmond is the most ardent advocate for Cash Stamps: a convenient paper wallet system that's used for gifting. Throughout the episode, more BCH community members will join to have the conversation that you will never hear on any other Bitcoin podcast. Time stamps: 00:01:09 Introducing Calin Culianu & Steve Thurmond 00:02:37 The Evolution of Bitcoin Cash 00:03:59 Who is Behind Bitcoin Cash Now? 00:06:34 Narratives and Misconceptions 00:07:53 Vlad's Perspective on the Fork 00:09:44 Bitcoin's Capture and Speculative Nature 00:11:48 Vlad's Journey with Lightning Network 00:16:07 Blockstream and the "Banker" Conspiracy 00:18:33 The Security Budget Debate 00:22:12 The Problem with IOU Systems like Lightning 00:24:02 Vlad's Disappointment with Onboarding 00:24:58 Ethereum's Rise Amidst Bitcoin's Infighting 00:27:52 The Bankers Won, But Crypto Still Exists 00:32:16 The Future of Bitcoin and Firing Core Devs 00:33:08 The Wall of Consensus in BTC 00:39:19 The Multi-Coin Future 00:42:48 Bitcoin Cash's Development Philosophy 00:49:08 Craig Wright's Controversial Involvement 00:55:16 The Impact of Contentious Forks 00:58:55 The Resilience of Bitcoin Cash 01:02:32 The Value of Open Source Competition 01:08:51 Greg Maxwell's Influence 01:12:00 The Ecash fork 01:25:02 Introducing New BCH Community Members 01:26:38 Building Smart Contracts on Bitcoin Cash 01:34:06 Why UTXO is Better than EVM 01:40:07 Can You Run a BCH Node? 01:41:07 The Flawed "Run a Node" Narrative 01:53:27 The Dangers of RBF and the Importance of 0-Conf 02:05:07 One-Minute Blocks Proposal 02:08:02 Finality and User Experience in Wallets 02:12:13 The "It's Just Money, Bro" Philosophy 02:41:39 What Can You Buy with BCH? 02:48:28 The Permissionless Nature of BCH 02:52:12 The Paradox of Layer Twos 02:57:18 The Stigma of Building on BCH 02:58:21 The Changing Culture of Bitcoin Cash 03:11:35 Ordinals and the "Spam" Debate 03:17:07 Would BCH Still Have a Nice Dev Culture If Michael Saylor Started Buying? 03:28:14 Quantum Computing and Satoshi's Coins 03:42:59 The Tail Emission Debate 03:50:11 The Culture is the Ultimate Defense 03:53:16 The Politicization of Bitcoin Development 03:59:26 Privacy and Fungibility 04:02:21 The Future of Privacy on BCH 04:36:12 Fulcrum: An Electrum Server Implementation 04:38:54 The Litecoin Question 04:49:13 The Difficulty of Recreating Bitcoin's Genesis 04:51:38 The Long-Term Bet on SHA-256 04:54:12 A Break and Introduction to Rosco 05:48:33 CashScript and Smart Contracts on BCH 05:55:22 BCH vs. Ethereum Smart Contracts 06:03:05 The UTXO Stack and Abstraction Layers 06:43:30 The Avalanche Pre-Consensus Question 06:45:51 The "Tax" Fork 07:04:06 The Failed Attack on Bitcoin Cash 07:08:58 The 2018 Inflation Bug Disclosure 07:22:46 The Michael Saylor Phenomenon 07:28:41 The Arrest of Roger Ver 07:39:28 Spending Crypto in the Real World 07:44:22 The End of Crypto-Friendly Spaces in Europe 07:52:05 Prediction Markets and Community Sponsorship 08:08:17 Robin Linus is Jealous of BCH Opcodes 08:09:50 Final Thoughts and Conclusion

Milan De Reede is the co-founder of Nano GPT: a service that allows you to access all the premium (as well as free) AI models from the same interface, as you pay with bitcoin (and a bunch of other supported coins) for every query and prompt. It successfully allows users to experiment, save money on otherwise expensive subscriptions, and build without any limits (outside of the tokens budget). In this episode, we talk about the origins of Nano GPT, why it's so useful, and how you can get started with vibe coding your dream project. Essentially, my conversation with Milan De Reede finds itself at the intersection between cryptocurrencies and AI: a concept that may become increasingly popular in the future. Try Nano GPT today with my referral code, get some bonuses: https://nano-gpt.com/r/Qx83bnwz Time stamps: 00:01:07 Introducing Milan & Nano GPT 00:03:03 The Origins of Nano GPT 00:04:31 How Nano Cryptocurrency Works 00:05:25 Nano vs. Sharding 00:08:08 Validator Incentives in Nano 00:10:44 Nano's Proof-of-Stake-like System 00:11:57 Critique of Bitcoin Mining Centralization 00:16:30 The Impact of AI on Bitcoin Mining 00:18:11 Proof-of-Work vs. Proof-of-Stake Security 00:22:18 The Monero 51% Attack Risk 00:23:41 Nano GPT's Most Used Cryptocurrencies (Monero, Zcash, Bitcoin, and Nano) 00:27:16 Upcoming Bitcoin Hard Fork: ECash 00:30:15 The Quantum Computing Threat to Bitcoin 00:33:15 The Blurring Lines at Bitcoin Conferences 00:36:41 Online vs. In-Person Crypto Debates 00:39:47 Sponsor Mentions 00:42:40 How Nano GPT Selects and Hosts AI Models 00:45:06 The "Auto Model" Feature 00:46:33 Privacy and Anonymity on Nano GPT 00:54:14 The Business Model of Nano GPT 00:55:23 User Growth and Community 00:57:15 Incentivizing Crypto Payments on Nano GPT 01:07:02 The Impact of AI on Society 01:09:44 AI's Role in Education and Plagiarism 01:13:16 The Future of AI and Human Creativity 01:18:20 The Vision Behind Nano GPT

Zach Herbert is the CEO of Foundation, a company which specializes in building hardware wallets that offer extra security features. The latest model, the Passport Prime, aims to also replace YubiKey for Two Factor Authentication and other more expensive encrypted storage devices. But now thanks to AI and the open source app store, new possibilities have opened up. Buy your Passport Prime using promo code ”BTCTKVR” and get a free bumper case, worth $19! Time stamps: 00:01:07 Introducing Zach Herbert, CEO of Foundation 00:03:11 Live Unboxing of Passport Prime 00:04:14 Foundation's Sci-Fi Inspiration 00:05:32 Passport Prime First Impressions 00:08:40 Factory Reset and Resale 00:09:49 Quantum Link and Bluetooth Setup 00:15:24 Firmware Update Process 00:17:43 Haptic Feedback and User Experience 00:20:05 Magic Backup with NFC Key Cards 00:25:50 Restoring from a Magic Backup 00:26:45 User Interface and Upcoming Changes 00:29:02 KeyOS: The Custom Operating System 00:32:36 Active Tamper-Proofing 00:35:49 Two-Factor Authentication (2FA) Feature 00:37:13 The Vault App 00:43:39 Live Device Wipe and Restore 00:48:57 Troubleshooting the Restore Process 00:50:18 Market Position and Competition 00:52:29 How Magic Backup Works 00:56:21 Foundation's Open-Source App Store 01:01:46 Solving Digital Life Security 01:18:07 Giveaway Winner Announcement 01:31:01 Manufacturing Passport Prime in the USA 01:46:06 Thoughts on Duress Mode 01:56:26 AI Integration and Vibe Coding 02:07:29 Business Model and Subscription Service 02:30:39 The Future is Not Air-Gapped

Hunter Beast is the author of BIP360, the most popular proposal to add quantum resistant signatures to Bitcoin. Mark Karpelès is the former CEO of Mt. Gox and the creator of Tiban wallet. In this episode, they talk about the looming quantum threat. Time stamps: 00:00:56 Introducing Hunter Beast 00:02:38 Hunter Beast's New Role at Surmount Systems and Quantum Urgency 00:05:28 The Timeline for a Quantum Upgrade 00:07:07 The Need for a Concrete Technical Process 00:09:36 Surmount Systems' Fundraising and Mission 00:12:30 What is Surmount Systems? 00:15:09 Mark Karpeles Joins the Conversation 00:16:31 Lessons Learned from Mt. Gox 00:19:18 Quantum Resistance and BIP32 HD Wallets 00:25:22 The Debate on Satoshi's Coins 00:29:09 Timelines for Phasing Out Old Signatures 00:32:24 Long vs. Short Exposure Quantum Attacks 00:33:36 The US Government and Quantum Computing 00:36:59 Quantum Resistance in Other Blockchains 00:42:05 Bundling Upgrades with Quantum Resistance 00:48:26 Bitcoin's Role in Separating Money and State 00:50:06 The Upcoming Ecash Fork 00:53:47 Mark Karpeles at the Conference: a Magic: The Gathering tournament 00:57:07 Mark's New Wallet Project: Tiban, Using Threshold Signatures 01:02:03 Mark's First Time in the USA

Jeremy Rubin is the author of BIP 119 (OP_CTV, Check Template Verify) and co-author of BIP 348 (CSFS, Check Sig From Stack). More recently, he started working on Char: a decentralized shared sequencer for Bitcoin layer 2s. In this episode, which we recorded at the LayerTwo Labs booth during the Bitcoin 2026 conference in Las Vegas, we talk about the challenges involved in improving Bitcoin and why Jeremy chooses to be a relentless builder even in an adversarial environment. Time stamps: 00:00:48 Podcast Introduction and Sponsors 00:03:02 Jeremy Rubin's Bitcoin Journey 00:03:24 Introduction to Check Template Verify (CTV) 00:04:44 The Philosophy Behind CTV 00:06:40 CTV for Congestion Control 00:07:57 CTV for Self-Custody Vaults 00:09:35 The Failed Activation of CTV 00:11:25 The "Technical Consensus" Debate 00:13:45 FUD and Misinformation Campaign 00:17:45 Blockstream's Role in Bitcoin Development 00:21:44 The Inevitability of CTV 00:26:04 The State of the Bitcoin Ecosystem 00:28:20 Bitcoin Maximalism and Cypherpunk Spirit 00:29:34 Learning from Other Projects 00:31:52 Bitcoin Cash's Technical Progress 00:35:39 The "Small Blocker" Paradox 00:37:34 Cultural Barriers to Building 00:39:24 The Future of Bitcoin and Freedom 00:43:08 Paul Sztorc's Ecash Fork 00:49:06 Confiscating Satoshi's Coins 00:58:51 The Problem with OP_CAT 01:01:56 Security Practices at Conferences 01:06:01 What Excites Jeremy About Bitcoin Today 01:09:01 On Being a "Difficult" Personality 01:12:20 Introduction to Char 01:15:04 Why Use Proof of Stake? 01:18:38 Final Thoughts on Agency and Freedom

After 15 years of being a Bitcoin-only maximalist and about a decade of promoting BIP300 as a soft fork, LayerTwo Labs CEO Paul Sztorc decided to launch Ecash: a hard fork of Bitcoin in which every BTC holder gets free coins. There's a catch, though: while everyone can claim 1 ecash for every bitcoin that they own, Satoshi can only claim half. Meaning that a returning Satoshi will only be able to claim half his coins, while the other half (550k) is currently being sold to investors in order to fund the development and bootstrapping of Ecash. What's more controversial: the hard fork or the SHAD (Satoshi Half Air Drop)? Only time will tell. But the Ecash hard fork is scheduled to happen in August 2026... unless Bitcoin activates BIP300 in the meantime. Game theory at its finest! Time stamps: 00:00:58 – Paul Sztorc announces the new Bitcoin hard fork project, eCash, sharing his motivation for launching it and setting the stage for the discussion. 00:03:02 – eCash’s technical details are explained, including its smaller 400kB block size and the integration of drivechains (BIP 300) to enhance scalability and flexibility. 00:04:55 – The initial drivechains launching with eCash are described, such as Thunder for scalability, ZSide for privacy, and additional chains like CoinShift, BitNames, and Photon. 00:09:28 – Security aspects of sidechains are discussed, covering the 256 sidechain limit, potential outcomes if sidechains fail, and the risks users face when moving coins. 00:14:26 – The project’s name, Ecash, is revealed, with a comparison to Bitcoin Cash and an explanation of the naming decision. 00:15:40 – Paul delves into the philosophy behind the hard fork, his views on Bitcoin maximalism, and his intention to remain committed to both Bitcoin and eCash. 00:20:35 – Mining dynamics are explored, including SHA256 mining competition, miner incentives, and the potential for MEV (miner extractable value) issues. 00:22:36 – Paul critiques the current state of Bitcoin, highlighting user and developer frustration, stagnation, low transaction fees, and gridlock in development. 00:29:40 – The potential for eCash to attract frustrated Bitcoin builders is considered, with references to similar migrations in crypto history. 00:31:38 – Ethereum’s rise is analyzed as a consequence of Bitcoin’s block size wars, with discussion on missed opportunities and lessons learned. 00:41:06 – The likelihood and impact of further Bitcoin hard forks are speculated upon, focusing on community fragmentation and effects on value. 00:41:49 – Hard forks are framed as healthy competition that benefits investors by providing free coins and stimulating innovation. 00:48:20 – The decision to reassign half of Satoshi’s coins for development and community incentives is explained, addressing concerns about distribution. 00:54:07 – Quantum computing threats, Satoshi’s mining behavior, and the rationale for the coin distribution are discussed in the context of long-term security. 01:36:00 – Users are advised to self-custody their Bitcoin to claim eCash, with an outline of the claiming process and best practices. 01:39:01 – Technical steps for claiming eCash using private keys are detailed, including wallet compatibility and the process for users. 01:43:26 – The potential for NFT and ordinal activity on eCash is addressed, along with how LayerTwo Labs will manage onboarding and network congestion. 01:45:35 – Drivechain security parameters are confirmed, with eCash using a 13,000-block security window in line with BIP 300’s Bitcoin implementation. 01:52:06 – The transition from a centralized project launch to decentralized development and governance. 01:54:36 – The current developer team size (about nine members) is shared, along with incentives for external developers to contribute to eCash. 01:58:26 – eCash is compared to Bitcoin Cash, with discussion on network effects, competition, and the potential for eCash to drive improvements in Bitcoin. 02:07:22 – The session concludes with future plans, a call for community engagement, and the possibility of follow-up discussions as the project evolves.

Amir Taaki is one of the first Bitcoin developers to join the project and today he stands out as one of the most prominent cypherpunks and privacy advocates. Currently, he is working towards building DarkFi. Harry Halpin is one of the most prominent privacy advocates in academia, and an entrepreneur who focuses on maximizing human rights. Today, he is the CEO of Nym and he works towards normalizing privacy. Christopher Cialone is a big privacy advocate whose current focus is to free the Tornado Cash devs (especially Roman Storm) and the Samourai Wallet devs. In this episode, we talk about everything privacy. Time stamps: 00:01:13 –Introducing Amir Zaki, Harry Halpin, Christopher Cialone 00:02:17 – Harry Halpin discusses Palantir CEO Alex Karp's advocacy for a corporate-state surveillance apparatus and automated AI weapons to ensure US dominance. 00:05:05 – Halpin critiques the Silicon Valley mindset that glorifies war and surveillance, contrasting it with the harsh realities of authoritarian regimes. 00:07:30 – Why programmers should build privacy-enhancing technologies to resist the rise of authoritarianism and mass surveillance. 00:18:26 – Vlad questions whether the US must abandon ethics to compete technologically with authoritarian states like China. 00:19:37 – Harry Halpin argues that true technological innovation comes from freedom and decentralization, not by copying authoritarian control systems. 00:24:34 – Christopher Cialone discusses the Tornado Cash case, where the government is attempting to redefine privacy and stifle innovation. 00:26:14 – Christopher Cialone expresses frustration over the developer community's general silence on legal battles that threaten their freedom to build. 00:33:58 – Neither political party will save crypto developers, citing ongoing prosecutions under different administrations. 00:35:27 – Harry Halpin highlights the hypocrisy of prosecuting legitimate privacy tool developers while ignoring scammers, revealing the state's true priorities. 00:39:02 – Christopher Cialone laments the cultural shift in New York post-COVID, noting increased compliance and a loss of rebellious spirit. 00:39:42 – Prosecutors are accused of deliberately misrepresenting technology to secure convictions against developers like Roman Storm. 00:44:33 – Harry Halpin prepares to leave the show, receives a Zcash giveaway sponsored by Cake Wallet. 00:49:49 – Vlad argues that Bitcoin's privacy development died when Samourai Wallet developers were arrested, causing a chilling effect. 00:53:19 – Amir Taaki advocates for using cyberpunk technology to build parallel systems and reclaim power from a corrupt government. 00:58:03 – Amir reminisces about the early, freer days of the internet and calls for creating a more fun, sovereign online world. 01:01:59 – Amir Taaki provides an update on the DarkFi project, mentioning the upcoming wallet app, bridge development, and marketing plans. 01:03:32 – Amir recounts being detained and deported from multiple countries, suggesting a pattern of targeting figures in the crypto privacy space. 01:11:17 – Amir explains how to deal with government psychological operations by remaining calm, rational, and focused on the primary mission. 01:16:09 – The shift from believing in a single objective truth to understanding diverse values and realities. 01:19:03 – Amir Taaki describes the ongoing arms race between those diminishing privacy and those building new tools to preserve freedom online. 01:23:38 – The conversation shifts to how AI, controlled by superpowers through semiconductor production, can be weaponized against individuals and businesses. 01:26:53 – Taaki discusses the use of AI systems like Palantir's AIP and Israel's "Lavender" to automate targeting and killing in warfare. 01:36:22 – Pactical privacy tips, including using Tor, Linux, fire-jailed AI, GrapheneOS, and privacy-focused VPNs. 01:40:17 – The discussion covers recommended VPNs that respect user privacy and browsers like Firefox and Brave for a safer online experience. 01:48:00 – The Zcash giveaway & show sponsors: Sideshift, Layer Two Labs, Orange Rock, Braiins Hash Power, Cake Wallet 01:57:49 – The story behind the Zcash wallet's rebranding from Zashi to ZODL due to a conflict with the Electric Coin Company. 02:01:15 – The significance of zero-knowledge proofs, their origins, and their use in projects like Zcash and Tornado Cash. 02:30:09 – Amir Taaki jokes about how easy it is to anger Bitcoiners by stating factual criticisms, particularly about the Lightning Network. 02:30:48 – Why the Lightning Network failed.

Amaury Séchet is the developer who forked Bitcoin in August 2017 to create Bitcoin Cash. Three years later, in the aftermath of an internal conflict about developer funding mechanisms, he also forked Bitcoin Cash to create Ecash (XEC): the evolution of the Bitcoin ABC client which adds the Avalanche protocol for a combination between the battle-tested Proof of Work security and the instant Proof of Stake finality. In this episode, we talk about the evolution of the Bitcoin protocol and why hard forks matter. Time stamps: 00:01:19 Introducing Amaury Séchet 00:03:06 Bitcoin Cash vs. eCash Price & Market Dynamics 00:05:05 Nihilism & Casino Culture in Crypto 00:06:55 Bitcoin Technical Debates: Covenants, Spam, Quantum Resistance 00:09:36 Quantum Computing Threats to Bitcoin 00:13:09 Satoshi’s Coins & Quantum Attacks 00:17:52 Changing Bitcoin’s Core Tenets & Confiscation Proposals 00:22:19 Consensus, Politics, and Forking 00:25:00 Quantum Resistance in eCash & BCH 00:27:16 Hard Forking vs. Scaling for Quantum Threats 00:30:06 Satoshi’s Wealth Across Forks (BTC, BCH, BSV, XEC) 00:32:13 AI, Protein Folding, and Future Tech 00:33:22 Cake Wallet, SideShift, and wallet integration for BCH + XEC 00:36:11 Banks, Bitcoin Standard, and Economic Liquidity 00:37:45 Scaling, Fractional Reserve, and Economic History 00:41:24 Thoughts on Drivechain & Blockchain Extensibility 00:46:49 eCash Technical Differences: Avalanche Consensus 00:52:06 eCash Mining, 51% Attacks, and Security 00:54:17 Bitcoin Scaling Wars: XT, Unlimited, Classic 01:00:10 Fiat, Proof of Work, and Labor Theory of Value 01:02:36 Giveaway Segment & Sponsors 01:09:20 Satoshi’s Block Size Views & Moore’s Law 01:21:14 Small Blockers, Radio Waves, and Node Requirements 01:27:02 Electrum, Fulcrum, and Wallet Infrastructure 01:33:14 Bitcoin Forks Timeline & Technical Upgrades 01:41:06 BCH vs. BTC: SegWit, Schnorr, and Malleability 01:46:08 BCH Forks: SV, Block Size, and Governance 02:04:35 Blacklist, Confiscation, and BSV’s Direction 02:09:15 Gigabyte Blocks & Scaling Challenges 02:42:13 Avalanche Consensus & eCash Upgrades 02:47:57 Cash Tokens, EVM, and Layer 2s 02:54:12 Cash Fusion & Privacy Compared to Monero & Zcash 03:02:32 Future Privacy Improvements & Payment Protocols 03:07:46 Monero, Zcash, and Privacy Scalability 03:25:55 Proof of Stake, Mining Rewards, and eCash Economics 03:27:59 Amaury’s Role, Leadership, and Project Direction 03:39:53 Big Blocker Movement: Sabotage & Self-Sabotage 04:18:07 Bitcoin’s Future, BCH, and eCash Predictions 04:21:56 Which Altcoins Will Survive? 04:24:28 New Scaling Projects & Instant Payments (Quai, Kaspa) 04:31:17 Closing Remarks & How to Follow Amaury and eCash

Karl Kreder, better known as Dr. K, is the architect of the Quai network: a layered blockchain stack which maximizes the power of proof of work to enable high transaction throughput. Similar in design with Peter Todd's idea of Tree Chains, Quai finds itself at the bleeding edge of cryptocurrency research: and might one day help scale Bitcoin too. Recently, Quai got listed on Kraken and appears to be gaining momentum. But the road to mainstream adoption and replacing banks is still long... Time stamps: 00:01:05 – Vlad introduces Dr. K, sponsors, and announces a Zcash giveaway. 00:02:36 – Quai’s recent Kraken listing and its unique proof-of-work scaling approach. 00:03:03 – Vlad and Dr. K demonstrate sending and receiving Quai using the Blip Pay wallet to showcase the user experience. 00:10:06 – Dr. K explains Quai’s block times, statistical and economic finality, and how its security compares to Bitcoin. 00:14:48 – Comparing Kaspa’s approach and block sampling to Quai’s work-sharing model 00:17:29 – Dr. K details how tokens are issued on Quai, merge mining with other chains, and the SOAP protocol. 00:20:43 – Why miners would mine Kwai, market equilibrium, and the concept of emissions neutrality. 00:22:55 – How Quai’s merge mining differs from Monero’s Qubic and its impact on other blockchain security models. 00:24:28 – The potential for other blockchains to migrate assets to Quai and the broader implications for Bitcoin. 00:28:20 – Gavin Andresen’s article, the possibility of Bitcoin migration, and network incentive structures. 00:32:01 – How SOAP forces proof-of-work chains to compete on utility and efficiency in the market. 00:35:04 – Dr. K argues that proof-of-stake is unsuitable for money, using geopolitical examples to support his case. 00:38:11 – Quai’s premine, coin distribution and fairness in the project. 00:41:04 – Quai’s programmability, privacy features, energy dollar, and sharding scalability compared to Kaspa. 00:46:56 – Dr. K explains Kwai’s dynamic sharding, hierarchical chain structure, and proof of entropy minima. 00:53:00 – Dr. K responds to accusations of Quai being a “Bitcoin affinity scam” and emphasizes the project’s mission. 00:55:31 – Why Quai needs its own token and can’t simply function as a Bitcoin L2, the need for reciprocal validation. 00:57:29 – Ethereum’s move to proof-of-stake, the challenges of proof-of-work scaling, and Quai’s unique approach. 00:59:39 – Dr. K announces the giveaway number and reveals the winner live. 01:02:18 – Dr. K reviews Cake Wallet 01:09:23 – Hardware requirements for running a Quai node compared to Bitcoin’s requirements. 01:15:20 – Dr. K explains how archival nodes work in Quai, shard data redundancy, and miner incentives for data storage. 01:18:18 – Quai’s privacy mechanisms and addresses potential threats from quantum computing. 01:25:02 – Dr. K's recent physics breakthrough related to unification and its implications for quantum computing. 01:55:36 – How Dr. K uses AI models like Claude and GPT for research, proof development, and coding tasks. 02:08:12 – AI’s impact on code security, adversarial reviews, and the process of patching vulnerabilities. 02:25:25 – Dr. K explains his motivation for building scalable proof-of-work and the importance of sound money. 02:28:59 – Comparing crypto’s scaling requirements to Visa/Mastercard: the need for speed, scale, and low cost. 02:32:51 – Why proof-of-work scaling is more challenging and less researched than proof-of-stake. 02:48:57 – Why simply increasing block size doesn’t scale and how sharding addresses these technical limits. 02:52:32 – The lack of engagement from Bitcoin core developers and the counterintuitive design of Quai. 02:56:59 – Quai’s use cases, including stable private money, EVM compatibility, and DeFi. 03:00:00 – Dr. K addresses criticisms about energy use, arguing for proof-of-work’s security and economic efficiency. 03:09:14 – The best ways to try Quai: Tangem, Blip Pay, browser extensions, and exchanges. 03:26:08 – Criticisms of Quai, such as sharding FUD, security, and centralization risks. 03:37:21 – Future plans for Quai: upcoming exchange listings, new wallet features, and app wallet security. 03:43:02 – Vlad and Dr. K reflect on their academic backgrounds, discuss flaws in academia, and share closing thoughts.

Lukas Hozda is the incumbent genius at Braiins mining: the Jack of all trades who's been with the company since he finished high school and can get assigned to any project. He wrote "Programming Bitcoin in Rust" and lately he's scrutinized BIP110. Time stamps: 00:00:46 – Introducing Lukas Hosoda, author and Rust developer at Braiins 00:03:08 – Discovering Bitcoin at age 12 and mining 00:07:04 – Career at Braiins 00:09:43 – Braiins Office Mining & ASICs 00:13:01 – Braiins Mini Miner (BMM101) 00:15:16 – Drivechains & Sidechains 00:17:49 – Bitcoin News & Braiins Blog 00:19:01 – Braiins HashPower Product 00:21:39 – Mining Decentralization 00:22:51 – Cake Wallet & Zcash Giveaway 00:24:01 – Terraria Plugin Development 00:27:44 – SideShift & Swapping 00:31:11 – Breadwallet & Node Mapping 00:33:38 – Joining Braiins as a Rust Programmer 00:36:06 – Writing the Book "Building Bitcoin in Rust" 00:39:43 – BIP 110/444 Research 00:40:55 – How Bitcoin's Gossip Network Works 00:44:31 – Mempool & Private Transactions 00:45:54 – Marathon Slipstream . 00:47:10 – History of OP_RETURN & Arbitrary Data on Bitcoin 00:51:19 – Spam, Transaction Fees & Block Size 00:55:18 – UTXO Set Growth 00:57:50 – ZK Proofs & Ethereum 00:58:44 – Nostr Community's Emotional Approach to Bitcoin 00:59:28 – Filtering Challenges 01:01:38 – Ordinal Inscriptions & Developer Response 01:02:54 – Mining Pools & Incentives 01:05:31 – Block Subsidy & Layer 2s 01:07:31 – User Growth, Adoption & Institutions 01:11:09 – BIP 444/110 Analysis 01:15:27 – Data Limits & Programming 01:19:09 – Forks & Market Reactions 01:22:58 – Bitcoin’s Core Values 01:25:49 – Node Running Legal Risks & Institutions 01:29:00 – Giveaway & Closing 01:31:26 – Recurring Bitcoin Debates 01:35:06 – Toxicity in Debates 01:36:35 – Epstein Files & Final Thoughts

Summer Meng is the CEO of Bitmars: the largest distributor of Bitmain ASIC miners in Europe and North America. Often described as the ”ASIC Queen”, she is the person to contact if you need to supply a mining farm with the latest and best-performing hardware. In this episode, she talks about the challenges involved in ASIC miner distribution and her journey from simple employee to company CEO. Time stamps: 00:01:12 Summer Meng’s Background & Entry into Bitcoin Mining 00:03:41 Early Experiences & Learning in the Industry 00:05:23 Bitcoin Mining in China & the 2021 Ban 00:07:01 Impact of the Ban & Shift to Overseas Markets 00:09:40 Bitcoin Custody & Company Practices in China 00:11:05 Self-Education & Client Interactions 00:12:17 Client Base & Global Mining Trends 00:12:41 Summer’s Rise to CEO & Company Structure 00:13:14 Bit Mars as ASIC Miner Distributor 00:14:57 Market Centralization & Access to Miners 00:15:59 Largest Orders & Sales Volume 00:17:04 Order Types & Client Diversity 00:18:38 AI Pivot & Second-Hand ASIC Market 00:19:10 Quality Control & Testing of Miners 00:20:25 Relationship with Brains Mining Pool 00:21:39 Mining Market Shift from China to US 00:22:48 Current Market Challenges & AI Impact 00:23:41 Hashrate Trends & Mining Efficiency 00:24:47 Mining Use Cases Beyond Profit 00:25:42 Environmental Narratives & Heat Reuse 00:27:30 Home Mining & Heat Applications 00:28:18 Setting Up Home Mining Heat Systems 00:29:47 Home Mining Devices & Recommendations 00:32:08 Noise & Practicality of Home Mining 00:36:41 Podcast Sponsors & Cake Wallet Giveaway 00:37:41 Cloud Mining & Brains Hash Power 00:39:30 Bitmain’s Market Dominance & Competition 00:41:44 Intel, Samsung, & ASIC Manufacturing 00:43:30 Mining Pools & Market Share 00:44:48 Scams & Safe Purchasing Practices 00:46:12 Educational Materials & Book Translation 00:48:14 Mining Ban Resurgence in China 00:52:02 Legal Status of Mining & Sales in China 00:54:54 Industrial vs. Home Mining Future 00:55:58 Types & Popularity of ASIC Miners 00:56:50 Demand for Non-Bitcoin Miners 00:58:27 ASIC Manufacturers Using Miners Before Sale 00:59:37 Water Cooling & Hydro Miners 01:00:31 Current ASIC Miner Prices 01:01:40 Final Thoughts & Contact Information 01:02:15 Scam Orders & Business Anecdotes

Chad Masterson & Charlie Plainview are the co-founders of OPNET: a protocol that brings smart contracts, DeFi & stablecoins to Bitcoin's base layer. No tokens, wrappers, or bridges are required. But how does it really work & how is it different from Omni, Counterparty, and Citrea? Time stamps: Time stamps: 00:00:36 Introducing Danny and Chad from OPNET 00:01:37 Defining OP NET and Consensus Protocols 00:03:19 Comparison to Counterparty and EVM Compatibility 00:05:39 Technical Implementation: Witness Field and Bitcoin Compliance 00:07:32 Leveraging Bitcoin’s Native Scripting 00:09:03 Problems with Meta Protocols and Off-Chain Indexers 00:12:48 Potential for DeFi and Institutional Use 00:14:07 Layer Two Limitations and Liquidity Issues 00:15:35 Scaling and High Fee Environment 00:20:52 Stablecoins and OP 20 Token Standard 00:23:18 Freedom, Use Cases, and Bitcoin’s Limitations 00:27:36 Critique of Liquid and Bridging Solutions 00:31:38 Lightning Network, Taproot Assets, and Payments Use Case 00:34:49 Bitcoin Yield, Loans, and Productive Capital 00:37:44 Criticism from Bitcoin Maximalists: Spam and Competing Tokens 00:42:06 Spam, UTXO Bloat, and Account-Based Model 00:44:51 Miner Incentives, MEV, and Transaction Ordering 00:50:04 Sponsor Plugs and Giveaway 01:04:52 OP NET's Target Audience and User Adoption 01:13:00 Bitcoin’s Role: Peer-to-Peer Cash or Financial Layer? 01:23:00 Permissionless Innovation and Resilience 01:26:39 Emergent Use Cases and Historical Parallels 01:30:16 Airdrops, Incentives, and Early User Rewards 01:32:33 Security and Comparison Between OP-20 and BRC-20 01:34:18 Live DeFi Applications and Fee Experience 01:36:53 AI Coding FUD and Development Process 01:39:51 Decentralization, Node Operation, and Team Size 01:42:26 Final Questions: Criticisms, Wallets, and How to Try OP NET 01:45:37 Outro and Thanks

Kristian Csepcsar is the Chief Propaganda Officer at Braiins: the first Bitcoin mining pool and also the oldest Bitcoin company in existence. In this episode, he talks about the role that Braiins plays in the Bitcoin world (inside and outside of mining) and the moments that shaped the Proof of Work industry. Time stamps: 00:01:09 Introducing Kristian Csepcsar, Chief Propaganda Officer at Braiins 00:02:13 Brains Company Overview & Mining Book Promotion 00:03:33 Audiobooks & Free Resources 00:05:22 Mining Videos & Norway Whale Salami Story 00:07:42 Brains/Slush Pool History & Name Origin 00:10:32 Short History of Bitcoin Mining 00:10:53 Zcash Mining & Cake Wallet Giveaway 00:12:59 Brains Hardware & Braiins Dock Device 00:15:38 HashPower Marketplace & Solo Mining 00:17:40 Solo Mining Odds & Use Cases 00:23:31 AI Pivot in Mining Industry 00:25:35 Brains’ Giveaway & Newsletter Challenge 00:27:52 Braiins Mini Miner (BMM101) & Mining Software Flexibility 00:29:10 Brains’ Mining Pool Size & Decentralization 00:29:46 Early Bitcoin Mining: CPUs, GPUs, Pools 00:32:07 Slush Pool’s Impact on Prague Bitcoin Scene 00:33:11 Mining Hardware Evolution: GPUs, FPGAs, ASICs 00:34:15 First Mining Pools & Fee Structures 00:36:16 ASIC Era & Bitmain Dominance 00:43:16 Slush Pool Hack & Trezor Creation 00:48:12 Brains’ Growth & Key Bitcoin Mining Events 00:52:17 Brains’ Political Stance & Protocol Upgrades 00:59:11 Mining Pool Centralization & Governance 01:04:07 Brains’ No-KYC Policy & Lightning Payouts 01:07:17 Brains Firmware & Machine Management 01:12:38 ASIC Manufacturing Competition & Challenges 01:17:22 Jack Dorsey’s Bitcoin Investments Critique 01:22:06 Open Source, Feedback, and Community Criticism 01:24:00 Mining Centralization Beyond Pools 01:31:14 Miners’ Role in Bitcoin Governance 01:34:32 Brains’ Business Strategy & Pool Size: Why Isn't Braiins Number 1? 01:40:13 Outro & Final Promotions

Charlie Spears is a co-founder of Blockspace media, an organization which specializes in publishing articles and podcasts about Bitcoin mining and scaling. In this episode, we talk about the rise of AI, Bitcoin culture, and the upcoming OP_NEXT event. Time stamps: 00:01:07 – Introduction & Spook Joke 00:05:04 – Blockspace Media Origins 00:08:34 – Technical Glitches 00:11:27 – The Gwart Show 00:13:50 – Bitcoin Media Landscape 00:17:25 – Blockworks vs. Blockspace 00:19:22 – AI’s Impact on Media 00:21:07 – AI Workflow & Security 00:22:30 – Voice Cloning Risks 00:24:41 – AI Content & Authenticity 00:27:45 – AI & Bitcoin Mining 00:30:20 – AI Replacing Creative Work 00:33:02 – Charlie's Music Career & Podcasting 00:36:03 – Cake Wallet Giveaway 00:40:13 – Bitcoin Privacy & Zcash 00:41:18 – Bitcoin Culture Critique 00:47:54 – Altcoins & EVM on Bitcoin 00:51:44 – Lightning Network UX 00:58:20 – Custodial vs. Non-Custodial Lightning 01:01:31 – Scaling Bitcoin & Sponsors 01:06:12 – Giveaway Winner 01:08:22 – AI’s Impact on Mining 01:12:49 – Blockspace Value & Fees 01:19:27 – Bitcoin Development & Conferences 01:27:24 – Covenants & Soft Forks 01:29:13 – Toxicity & Freedom Tech 01:40:58 – Altcoins, DeFi & Bitcoin Openness 01:46:03 – Transaction Fees & Security 01:52:39 – Bitcoin Maximalism Evolution 01:57:59 – OGs, DeFi & Airdrops 02:00:49 – Closing Thoughts 02:03:05 – Outro & OP_NEXT Promotion

Time stamps: 00:00:46 Introducing Ray 00:02:05 Ray Steps Down as CEO of NoOnes & Legal Troubles Begin 00:03:10 The Arrest & Deportation in Mexico 00:06:29 US Charges & Legal Proceedings 00:11:07 Motivations Behind the Prosecution 00:17:08 Conditions of Release & Ankle Bracelet 00:20:57 NoOnes’ Status & Company Structure 00:25:35 NoOnes vs Paxful in User Base 00:28:39 Product Design Philosophy 00:36:01 Ray’s Legal Restrictions 00:37:15 Cake Wallet Giveaway Winners & Community Engagement 00:41:33 NoOnes’ Peer-to-Peer Trading Volume & Asset Breakdown 00:44:46 USDT, USDC, and Sanctions Workarounds 00:47:33 Other Crypto Developers & Political Prosecution 00:50:14 Ray’s Trial Outlook & US Citizenship 00:57:00 Judicial System & Hope for Dismissal 00:59:48 Intimidation Tactics & Test of Wealth 01:03:15 Charity, Faith, and Pascal’s Wager 01:04:05 Counter-Suing & DOJ Conviction Rates 01:06:48 Faith, Destiny, and the Story of Moses & Al-Khidr 01:19:20 Lessons from the Story & Humility 01:21:06 Ramadan, Blessings, and Resilience 01:23:31 Transparency & Potential Netflix Series 01:25:27 Political Prisoners in Crypto 01:29:43 Leadership, Education, and Building in Africa 01:33:30 Faith as the Foundation of Leadership 01:35:32 Empowering Teams & Creating Leaders 01:37:34 Human Potential, Creativity, and Alignment 01:39:57 Spiritual Warfare & End Times 01:41:41 Malcolm X Speech & Supremacism 01:47:47 Doctrine, Monotheism, and Resistance 01:50:00 Prophecy, End Times, and Christ Consciousness 01:53:46 Bitcoin, Justice, and Community 01:57:41 Ray’s Experience at Utopia & Conference Arrest 02:00:38 Spiritual Adversaries & Respect from Opponents 02:01:37 Mugshot, Merchandise, and Next Steps 02:02:46 How to Support Ray & Future Projects 02:08:45 Post-Trial Plans & Preferred Countries 02:11:19 Identity, Nationalism, and True Resistance 02:13:16 Faith, Productivity, and Facing Adversity 02:13:42 Closing Remarks & SOL Reimbursement Story

John Carvalho is the CEO of Synonym: the company behind the Bitkit wallet and the Pubky social tagging protocol. In this episode, he talks about the progress he's made with his products, the relevance of BIP110, and two concepts which he calls ”Bitcoin depression” and ”Lightning derangement”. Time stamps: 00:00:47 Introducing John Carvalho 00:01:42 Podcast Sponsorships & Cake Wallet Giveaway 00:03:40 Synonym Company Growth & AI Coding 00:07:10 Startup Lessons & Xotika History 00:10:26 Bitcoin Uncensored & Xotika Freedom 00:12:00 Stablecoins, Tether, and Omni 00:15:00 Bitcoin Block Space & Scaling 00:20:13 Blockchain Ecosystems & Class System 00:23:50 Forks, Scaling, and Store of Value 00:52:00 Blockstream, Core Devs, and Institutionalization 00:59:00 Bitcoin Depression & Lightning Derangement Syndrome 01:02:18 Community Fragmentation & Social Dynamics 01:32:55 Bitcoin Core, Trust, and Governance 01:51:32 Soft Forks, Consensus, and Node Power 02:00:04 Maximalism, Altcoins, and Experimentation 02:04:00 Payments vs. Store of Value 02:13:25 Trust, Society, and Social Scalability 02:16:04 Purpose of Bitcoin & Managing Violence 02:23:03 Synonym, Atomic Economy, and Product Vision 02:30:33 BitKit Wallet Design & Bitcoin Units 02:38:19 Bitcoin Community, Learning, and Evolution 02:55:44 Fashion Brand: Tar and Feathers 03:01:44 Social Media, Virality, and PubKy 03:05:08 Closing Remarks & Farewell

Mark Karpelès is the former CEO of Mt. Gox, the defunct Bitcoin exchange. Recently, he requested the Bitcoin community to hard fork the chain in order to recover 79956 BTC that was stolen from his exchange. In this episode, he explains all about it. Time stamps: 00:01:19 Introducing Mark Karpelès & His Recent Activities 00:03:29 Mark’s Entry into Bitcoin & Move to Japan 00:06:01 Acquiring Mt. Gox from Jed McCaleb in early 2011 00:08:00 Early Challenges & First Mt. Gox Hack 00:10:20 Handling the Loss & Transparency 00:13:16 Regrets & Lessons from Early Mt. Gox 00:15:09 Mt. Gox’s Rapid Growth & Regulatory Pressure 00:17:15 Rumors: Satoshi & Silk Road Allegations 00:21:16 Security, Hacking Attempts, and Physical Breach 00:24:07 Mt. Gox Bankruptcy, Recovery, and Alexander Vinnik 00:27:00 Technical Details of the Mt. Gox Hack 00:29:05 Evolution of Bitcoin Security 00:35:14 Why Mt. Gox Dominated the Market 00:44:53 Legal Compliance in Japan vs. US 00:48:12 Mt. Gox, Talking to Satoshi, and Early Bitcoin Development 00:51:35 Speculation on Satoshi & Bitcoin’s Future 00:55:30 Mark’s Current Projects: Solana & Meme Coin (Chief Pussy) 00:59:03 Why Mark Isn’t Focused on Bitcoin Anymore 01:00:28 Bitcoin Innovation, Scaling, and Forks 01:14:00 Sidechains and Drivechains Discussion 01:36:10 Mt. Gox as a Cautionary Tale & Exchange Security 01:42:14 Mark’s Life After Mt. Gox & Prison 01:44:58 The 80,000 Bitcoin Hard Fork Proposal 01:51:11 Community Reaction To Hard Fork & Precedent Concerns 01:55:09 Bitcoin Forks & Legal Recovery 02:15:25 Bitcoin Foundation & Developer Funding 02:25:05 Mark’s Current Ventures: VPN (vp.net) & Solana Tools 02:27:02 Bitcoin’s Future in 15-17 Years & Final Thoughts

Cameron Robertson first discovered Bitcoin in 2009, after reading a post on hacker website Slashdot. About a year later, he started mining and mingling with other Bitcoin enthusiasts in the Silicon Valley area. More recently, he created a product named the Burner: an affordable, NFC-based card that enables anyone to gift, save, and spend their BTC within a simple browser-based and mobile-optimized interface. In this episode, we talk about the past, present and future of the Bitcoin project: including topics such as mining, open source development culture, and the quantum threat. Get 25% discount on your Burner card purchase with promo code ”BTCTKVR”: https://www.burner.pro/bitcoin Time stamps: 00:01:15 Introducing Cameron Robertson 00:02:45 Cameron's Bitcoin Origin Story 00:03:40 Early GPU Mining & Startup Life 00:04:46 Meeting with Brian Armstrong of Coinbase & Smart Locks 00:06:10 Evolution of the Crypto Ecosystem 00:07:20 Building Self-Custody Tools 00:08:30 Kong Cash: Physical Crypto Notes 00:10:25 Community Reactions to Physical Crypto 00:11:17 NFTs, Halos, and Physical Authentication 00:12:30 Offline Cash: Improved Bitcoin Notes 00:13:30 Denominations, Sats, and Psychological Value 00:15:30 Challenges of Issuing Physical Bitcoin 00:16:22 From Cash Notes to Burner Card 00:17:30 Web-Based Wallets & App Store Challenges 00:18:48 Bitcoin Banknotes & Physical Representations 00:21:01 Casascius, Legal Precedents & Coinage Laws 00:24:28 Mining, Spending, and Store of Value 00:28:22 Early Bitcoin Community & Mining Stories 00:30:02 Bitcoin as Money vs. Store of Value 00:32:07 Unit of Account Challenges 00:37:31 Development Culture: Then vs. Now 00:39:03 Silicon Valley, Meetups, and Early Builders 00:40:58 Money Changes Everything: 2013–2017 00:46:57 Bear Markets, Building, and Lightning 00:50:23 Future Risks: Mining, Quantum, and Hard Forks 00:54:44 Quantum Resistance: Migration and Hardware 00:56:52 Quantum Attacks: Practical Risks and Mitigations 01:03:20 Consensus, Upgrades, and Developer Culture 01:05:41 Ethereum vs. Bitcoin: Governance and Upgrades 01:14:57 Stablecoins, Sidechains, and Payments 01:18:03 Burner Card Demo & Security Model 01:22:36 Technical Details: Secure Element & Open APIs 01:25:49 Third-Party Wallets & Business Model 01:29:31 Supported Coins & Expansion Plans 01:32:44 Naming & Philosophy Behind Burner 01:34:38 Cameron's Non-Shitcoin Picks & Privacy Coins 01:40:08 Privacy vs. Scaling: ZK Tech & Future Hopes 01:44:31 ZK Apps & Privacy Onramps 01:47:24 16-Year Outlook: Bitcoin & Crypto’s Future 01:53:29 No Price Predictions, Just Tech 01:53:37 Promo Code BTCTKVR & Closing Thoughts

Between 2014 and 2019, Riccardo Spagni (aka Fluffy Pony) led the development and engineering efforts of the Monero privacy. But he's also been a prominent bitcoiner since 2011, who did mining and supported e-commerce. He built a solid reputation on the Bitcoin OTC trading platform, created the PayBee and Globee payment processors, and even invented OpenAlias in order to simplify the now-standardized address format. In this episode, we talk about his contributions and what he's currently up to. Time stamps: 00:01:32 – Introduction & Magical Crypto Friends Era 00:02:57 – Challenges of Producing Magical Crypto Friends 00:04:26 – Craig Wright Satire & Community Targets 00:07:59 – Early Bitcoin Community & 2011 Generation 00:08:53 – Satoshi’s Intentions & Early Bitcoin Culture 00:13:00 – Technical Openness & Developer Culture 00:16:34 – Toxicity, Bag Bias, and Gloria Zhao Incident 00:22:27 – Ordinals, Spam, and Censorship Debates 00:29:24 – Privacy, Permissionlessness, and Miner Censorship 00:31:53 – Technical Flaws of Filtering & Forking Lessons 00:41:04 – Bitcoin Cash, Forks, and Movement Unity 00:45:57 – Economic Dogma vs. Technical Reality 00:47:40 – Layer 2, Lightning, and Privacy Limitations 00:49:38 – Magic Wand: Ideal Bitcoin Privacy Upgrades 00:52:31 – ETFs, Custodians, and Institutional Privacy 00:55:00 – Sponsor Plugs & Humanitarian Use Cases 01:02:36 – Samourai Wallet, Toxic Change, and Monero Swaps 01:06:39 – Privacy Coin Market Trends & Bandwagoning 01:12:13 – AI, Privacy, and Global South Crypto Use 01:18:01 – Tron, Justin Sun, and Stablecoin Adoption 01:22:33 – Bitcoin’s Changing Role: Store of Value vs. Money 01:26:15 – MoneroTopia & Legal Restrictions 01:31:50 – Early Bitcoin Support & The Most Serene Republic 01:37:25 – Philosophical Roots of Bitcoin Maximalism 01:39:07 – Personal Stories, Watches, and Fashion 01:43:02 – Weight Loss & Life Updates 01:45:08 – Monero Criticism & Inflation Debate 01:47:29 – Ethereum, Zcash, and Privacy by Default 01:55:20 – Zcash’s Purpose and Venture Funding 02:01:30 – Tari, Zano, and Final Thoughts 02:04:17 – Outro & Future Interviews

Colin Harper is a veteran Bitcoin journalist, who is known for the well-researched articles that he wrote for Coin Central, Bitcoin Magazine, Luxor Mining, and Blockspace Media. More recently, he became the co-host of the Blockspace Podcast. In this episode, we talk about Colin's insights into Bitcoin mining, the relevance of the recently-revealed Epstein files, and his approach to doing journalism. Read the article about this interview: https://bitcoin-takeover.com/s17-e7-colin-harper-bitcion-mining-epstein-emails-journalism/ Time stamps: 00:01:12 Reminiscing Berlin & Early Bitcoin Conferences 00:02:17 Marxism, Socialism, and Bitcoin’s Political Spectrum 00:04:00 Bitcoin’s Current State & Market Sentiment 00:06:48 Four-Year Cycle & Institutional Adoption 00:07:54 Global Macroeconomics & Liquidity Issues 00:09:43 Quantum Computing Threats & Upcoming OP_NEXT Conference 00:11:52 Exponential Technologies & Market Perception 00:13:38 Braiins BMM & Hashpower 00:15:06 Cloud Mining & Hash Power Marketplace 00:17:33 Mining Revenue, Hash Price, and Market Trends 00:18:20 Block Space Podcast Evolution & US Mining Shift 00:20:20 US Power Grid, Renewables, and Mining Economics 00:24:49 Public Miners, Shareholder Duties, and ASIC Depreciation 00:27:49 Mining Revenue, Ordinals, and Layer 2s 00:38:41 Stablecoins, Bitcoin’s Use Case, and Payments 00:45:42 Paper Bitcoin Summer & Treasury Companies 00:48:04 Treasury Company Capital Structures & Market Impact 00:58:08 Michael Saylor, Leverage, and Market Psychology 01:03:38 Epstein Files, Bitcoin Developers, and MIT Media Lab 01:16:51 Epstein, Block Size Wars, and Regulatory Influence 01:19:48 Closing Remarks & Podcast Plugs

Lately, Cake Wallet has become the Swiss Army knife for privacy-preserving cryptocurrencies — a description that should be an oxymoron. CEO Vik Sharma joins the show in order to explain how the project went from only supporting Monero to branching out into Bitcoin, Litecoin, Ethereum, Decred, Nano, and now Zcash and the Lightning network. Did he betray the Monero community? Time stamps: 00:01:16 – Introducing Vik Sharma 00:02:13 – Challenges of Podcasting & Sponsorship 00:03:16 – Lightning Network Integration in Cake Wallet 00:03:49 – Lightning Network Beta & Release Plans 00:04:26 – Technical Approach to Lightning Integration 00:05:25 – Multi-Coin & Lightning Support 00:06:32 – New Cake Wallet UI Overhaul 00:08:01 – Switching Between Bitcoin and Lightning 00:09:29 – Community Reactions & Tribalism 00:10:53 – Decision-Making & Adding Coins 00:12:47 – In-House Development Philosophy 00:14:00 – Zcash Integration Process 00:15:13 – Wallet Features: Node Connections & Privacy 00:16:37 – User Experience & Privacy Features 00:19:04 – Swap Providers & Tor Support 00:21:08 – Cake Pay: Gift Cards & Crypto Payments 00:22:25 – Gift Card Use Cases & Community Reception 00:24:19 – Payment Statistics & 80% Monero Dominance 00:25:52 – Zcash Community Skepticism & Open Source Trust 00:26:43 – Tribalism, Criticism, and Community Culture 00:36:13 – History of Zcash Integration & Domain Sales 00:42:11 – Exchange Listings & Monero Market Decentralization 01:03:44 – Bitcoin Security Budget & Multi-Coin World 01:06:58 – Monero Community Culture & Early Bitcoin Parallels 01:18:13 – Litecoin, Dogecoin, and Altcoin Experimentation 01:25:25 – Cake Wallet’s Growth & Monero Ecosystem 01:30:43 – Concerns About Cake's Market Dominance in Monero 01:33:24 – Upcoming Features: Lightning, Binance Chain, Desktop Focus 01:36:57 – Traditional Finance Integration & Future Plans 01:39:37 – AI in Wallets & User Suggestions 01:41:56 – Closing Remarks & Community Engagement

Over the last 6 months, Paul Sztorc has compiled an impressive list of inconsistencies and significant losses from the Bitcoin maximalist camp. He referred to them as ”derangements” and we cover most of them in this brutally honest wakeup call. Read Paul's article: https://www.truthcoin.info/blog/derangements/ Time stamps: 00:01:16 Introduction & Article Overview 00:02:41 Defining Derangements 00:05:31 Truth vs. Loyalty in Bitcoin Culture 00:09:55 Leadership Void & Bitcoin Core Stagnation 00:14:25 Consensus, Soft Forks, and Governance 00:17:46 Block Size Wars & Scaling Debates 00:19:11 Bitcoin Cash, Competition, and Signaling Theory 00:27:27 Bitcoin SV, Craig Wright, and Cultural Derangements 00:31:52 Lightning Network as a Sacred Cow 00:41:14 Treasury Companies & Michael Saylor 00:51:37 Layer Two Labs & Scaling Solutions 00:54:16 Drivechain, Quantum Resistance, and L2 Competition 01:07:24 Soft Forks, BIP Process, and Development Paralysis 01:11:41 Ordinals, NFTs, and Filtering Debates 01:22:36 Attacks on Developers & Community Toxicity 01:25:24 CTV, Jeremy Rubin, and Soft Fork Misunderstandings 01:41:24 Ethereum, Altcoins, and Market Competition 01:51:16 Mining, Miners’ Apathy, and Industry Scaling 02:03:09 Libbitcoin vs. Bitcoin Core 02:17:46 Final Rotation & Store of Value vs. Medium of Exchange 02:35:08 Non-Mined L2s, Rollups, and Miner Incentives 02:52:05 Purity Tests & Cancel Culture in Bitcoin 03:08:35 SegWit Discount & Taproot Critique 03:26:23 Address Formats, BIP47, and UX Derangements 03:36:50 Silent Payments, BIP47 & Privacy Features 03:55:05 Bitcoin Maximalism, Post-Maximalism, and Ideology 03:57:47 Game Theory, Politics, and Drivechain Criticism 04:00:14 Conclusion & Final Thoughts

Robin Linus, Liam Eagen, Ying Tong Lai are the co-founders of {ideal}: an initiative which recently created Argo: a garble circuits scheme which enabled 2000x efficiency gains for BitVM. The group aims to use cryptography in order to advance privacy and scalability in Bitcoin. Time stamps: 00:01:17 Introducing Liam Eagen, Robin Linus & Ying Tang Lai 00:02:17 Origin of Ideal Group & Naming 00:05:03 Funding, Investors & Bootstrapping 00:06:43 Comparison to Other Teams & Technical Progress 00:09:52 Challenges in Auditing & Implementation 00:12:10 Rapid Progress in BitVM & Garbled Circuits 00:14:37 Defining BitVM & Use Cases 00:19:24 BitVM, Soft Forks, and Bitcoin Upgrades 00:23:03 Ideal Solution for Bitcoin Upgrades 00:25:17 Simplicity, Covenants, and Script Upgrades 00:27:06 Favorite Michael Saylor Analogies & Podcast Ads 00:32:47 Bitcoin Maximalism, ETFs, and Institutionalization 00:37:17 Privacy, Censorship Resistance, and Fungibility 00:40:06 Blockchain Analysis & Privacy Risks 00:41:30 Shielded Client-Side Validation & Privacy Protocols 00:45:57 Zcash, Private Pools, and Inflation Bugs 00:51:45 Soft Forks vs. Embedded Consensus for Privacy 01:01:34 Quantum Computing Threats & Post-Quantum Cryptography 01:17:37 Freezing Satoshi’s Coins & UTXO Expiry 01:23:32 Block Space Demand, Ordinals, and Collectibles 01:25:44 Rollups, Block Space, and Bitcoin Culture 01:33:23 Argo: The New Garbling Scheme 01:38:05 Monero, Privacy Coins, and Community Ethos 01:40:25 Future Vision for Bitcoin 01:42:38 STARKs, SNARKs, and Zero-Knowledge Proofs 01:50:08 Conferences, Community, and Outreach 01:58:11 Ideal Project Status, Mainnet, and Naming 02:00:05 Closing Remarks & How to Follow {ideal}

Andrey Sabelnikov and Valeriy Pisarkov are the core devs of Zano: a privacy network which enables users to create tokens with privacy. The project's mix of Cryptonote and Zarcanum protocols can also enable private transfers of bridged BTC. In this episode, we talk about how this system works and we inquire about the tradeoffs involved. Time stamps: 00:01:51 – Introduction & Setting the Record Straight 00:02:51 – Val & Andre’s Backgrounds, CryptoNote Origins 00:03:53 – Problems with Bytecoin & Monero’s Launch 00:05:28 – Zano’s Strategic Directions & AI Security Challenges 00:08:51 – Val’s Role in Zano & Technical Evolution 00:13:45 – Network-Level Privacy Incident 00:19:15 – Proof-of-Work vs. Proof-of-Stake Privacy 00:24:11 – Zano vs. Monero: Not a Fork 00:29:22 – Monero Community Criticism & Scam Allegations 00:40:44 – Boolberry Project & Coin Swap 00:43:36 – Premine & Staking Controversy 00:48:29 – Tribalism & Ideology in Privacy Coins 00:53:21 – Differences Between Boolberry and Zano 00:57:32 – Wallet Support vs. Exchange Listings 01:01:03 – Exchange Listing Challenges & Gateway Addresses 01:04:20 – Gateway Addresses & Hard Fork 6 01:11:52 – Upcoming Roadmap: Proof-of-Stake & Full Chain Membership Proofs 01:17:40 – Bridging Bitcoin & Confidential Assets 01:27:52 – Asset Whitelisting & Stablecoin Risks 01:41:01 – Confidential Layer Bridge & Multi-Party Computation 01:51:21 – Zano’s Scalability, Throughput, and Future Vision 01:59:08 – Full Chain Membership Proofs & Quantum Resistance 02:09:17 – Tech Stack Choices & Adaptability 02:27:07 – Why Be Bullish on Zano? 02:54:48 – DeFi Listings, Gateway Addresses, and Privacy Trade-offs 03:19:59 – Network-Level Privacy, Dandelion, and Mixnets 03:26:46 – VPNs, Network Privacy Tools, and Community Integration 03:44:03 – Personal Stories, Early Computing, and Closing Remarks

Tyler Spalding is a 2011 bitcoiner whose main focus is payments. As the co-founder and former CEO of Flexa, he has a very unique insight on the cryptocurrency industry. This episode was recorded on the road after visiting the Bear Sanctuary in Romania. 00:00:47 – Introduction & Tyler’s Visit to Romania Tyler discusses his trip to Romania, the bear sanctuary, and his passion for supporting bears globally. 00:04:11 – Background: NASA, Payments, and Early Tech Career Tyler shares his background in aerospace engineering, work at NASA, and transition into software and payments. 00:10:09 – Discovering Bitcoin & Early Involvement Tyler recounts learning about Bitcoin in 2011, reading the white paper, and early mining experiences. 00:12:26 – Bitcoin as Payments vs. Store of Value Tyler explains his initial focus on Bitcoin as a payment system and how his views evolved over time. 00:17:26 – Money, Debt, and the Nature of Currency Discussion on the historical relationship between money and debt, and how Bitcoin fits into this context. 00:20:44 – Bitcoin as Commodity, Not Money Tyler argues Bitcoin is more like digital gold than money, and discusses synthetic assets and stablecoins. 00:22:59 – The One Token Dilemma & Use Cases Exploration of Bitcoin’s dual role as payment and store of value, and the resulting community debates. 00:28:46 – Spending Bitcoin: Early Purchases & Experiences Tyler shares stories about spending Bitcoin, including buying Cubs World Series tickets and other goods. 00:35:38 – Freedom of Choice & Critique of Maximalism Tyler advocates for utility maximalism and criticizes toxic Bitcoin maximalism and intolerance toward altcoins. 00:39:25 – Bitcoin’s Usefulness & 21 Million Narrative Debate on what makes Bitcoin useful, the 21 million supply, and the impact of other crypto projects. 00:41:59 – Altcoins’ Positive Impact on Bitcoin Tyler explains how Ethereum and other projects have benefited Bitcoin’s growth and adoption. 00:45:38 – Digital Gold Narrative & Custodianship Discussion on the digital gold narrative, Bitcoin’s slow/expensive transactions, and the rise of custodians. 00:47:42 – Podcast Sponsors & Wallets Host and Tyler discuss various sponsors, wallets, and services in the crypto ecosystem. 00:55:26 – Use Case Magazine & Documenting Crypto Adoption Tyler introduces his magazine “Use Case,” which documents real-world crypto use cases and includes a hardware wallet. 01:00:48 – Blocksize Wars: Big Blocks vs. Store of Value Tyler reflects on the blocksize wars, his initial support for big blocks, and how his views have changed. 01:09:47 – Forked Coins & Handling BCH Tyler discusses his approach to Bitcoin Cash after the fork and the uncertainty at the time. 01:17:33 – Bitcoin Cash, Scaling, and Miner Dynamics Analysis of Bitcoin Cash’s technical progress, miner incentives, and its ongoing relevance. 01:23:10 – Multiple Currencies & Historical Parallels Comparison of today’s crypto landscape to historical periods with many local currencies. 01:27:47 – Bitcoin’s Uniqueness & Market Realities Debate on whether Bitcoin is truly unique and the challenges of paper Bitcoin and institutional adoption. 01:30:03 – Network Usage vs. Price Focus Tyler emphasizes the importance of real network usage and adoption over price speculation. 01:31:59 – Crypto Celebrities & Community Engagement Stories about working with celebrities and community members in crypto promotional campaigns. 01:46:08 – Five Legitimate Altcoins & Decentralization Tyler lists Ethereum, Zcash, Solana, and others as legitimate projects, and discusses what makes a project a scam. 02:11:55 – Monero, Zano, and Privacy Coins Discussion of Monero, Zano, and the technical and community differences among privacy coins. 02:20:58 – Current Projects: Flexa, AMP, and Anvil Tyler describes his ongoing work with Flexa, AMP, and the Anvil DeFi protocol for collateral management. 02:26:05 – Proof of Stake vs. Proof of Work Tyler explains his preference for proof of stake, its security model, and critiques of Bitcoin’s mining centralization. 02:36:08 – Bitcoin Fork Thought Experiment: Privacy & Quantum Resistance Speculation on forking Zcash with Bitcoin’s UTXO set for privacy and quantum resistance. 02:43:19 – Quantum Threats & Migration Challenges Discussion on quantum computing risks, migration strategies, and contentious issues around lost coins. 02:51:55 – Lightning Network, Fees, and Network Security Critique of Lightning Network’s usability, fee model, and long-term security challenges for Bitcoin. 03:03:00 – If Tyler Could Change One Thing: Privacy Tyler would add privacy to Bitcoin, arguing it’s essential for real-world payments. 03:05:05 – Bitcoin’s Future & Open Source Innovation Tyler’s outlook on Bitcoin’s next 15 years, open source growth, and the importance of real-world utility. 03:09:48 – How to Use Flexa Today Practical advice on using Flexa for payments, wallet integrations, and the importance of merchant acceptance. 03:16:36 – Conclusion & Code Word Wrap-up, thanks, and the code word “urs” (Romanian for bear) for listeners who made it to the end.

Lately, Bruce Fenton has been on fire with his characterization of Bitcoin sellouts who put on suits in order to appeal to institutional investors. Cordially, these people are referred to as ”suitcoiners” -- and in this episode we're roasting them. Time stamps: 00:01:16 Introducing Bruce Fenton, the Wall Street guy who's turned into a cypherpunk 00:02:04 Bruce Fenton's Journey from Wall Street to Cypherpunk 00:02:36 Tokenization, Ravencoin & Bitcoin Maximalism 00:03:26 Early Bitcoin Ethos of Self-Sovereignty 00:09:53 Hal Finney’s Vision for Bitcoin-Backed Banking 00:11:25 Bruce Fenton's Senate Campaign & Political Disillusionment 00:12:19 Limits of Political Change & The Swamp 00:16:25 Generational Shifts & Aging OGs 00:18:06 Campaign Funding with Bitcoin 00:21:14 Bruce Fenton's Filibuster Record 00:23:06 Video Games & Economics 00:28:42 Bitcoin as MMORPG 00:32:20 Maximalism & Community Schisms 00:40:09 5 Altcoins That Aren't Scams 00:45:51 Attack Vectors & Centralization 00:55:17 Legal Risks & Suppression 01:06:01 Libertarian Martyrs: A Tribute to Irwin Schiff, conviction, and cost of principles 01:09:05 Bitcoin Treasury Companies Critique 01:11:33 ETF Hype & Alienation 01:13:46 Store of Value vs Sound Money 01:28:21 Lightning Network Issues 01:31:31 Decline in Payments 01:32:20 Block Size Wars. Lost Innovation & Brain Drain 01:51:16 Satoshi’s Roundtable History 02:02:45 Satoshi's Roundtable Impact 02:03:50 Moving to Dubai 02:27:07 Libertarianism and UAE 02:38:49 Cypherpunk Revival 02:42:00 Early Bitcoin Resources 02:47:37 Tribalism & Open Source 03:00:11 Closing Thoughts

Moonsettler is a bitconer who adheres to the old school cypherpunk values and believes that the best way ahead is to enable OP_CTV (BIP119) or LNHANCE. However, the biggest problem is the generalized loss of focus. If last year there seemed to be consensus that Bitcoin needs covenants to improve scalability and bring new use cases, now the landscape is rather gloomy. Even Moonsettler changed his Twitter screen name to Doomsettler, as a reflection on this status quo. 00:01:16 Welcome Moonsettler (Doomsettler) 00:02:40 Delayed Interview and Original eCash Debate 00:03:14 Why eCash (Chaumian Cash) Never Took Off 00:04:00 Criticism of Custodial Scaling Solutions 00:05:14 Bitcoin as Decentralized Chaumian eCash 00:06:13 Fake Austrian Economics and Full Reserve Myths 00:08:32 Loss of "No Trusted Third Parties" Culture 00:09:52 Verifiable Supply vs Historical Fraud 00:13:40 Proof of Liabilities in eCash Mints 00:15:42 Cashu Fraud Proofs and Bug Bounty 00:18:20 Chaumian Blind Signatures Explained 00:24:48 Non-Custodial Credit eCash Ideas 00:30:39 Why Debit eCash Won't Scale Bitcoin 00:36:34 Bitcoin Like Linux – Oppose Custodial Layers 00:37:13 Unlimited Paper Bitcoin vs 21M Cap 00:41:25 Loss of Proof of Keys Culture 00:46:26 Doomsettler Mindset on Bitcoin's Future 01:09:30 Early Exchange Compliance Issues 01:11:37 Satoshi's Peer-to-Peer Vision 01:15:13 Satoshi's OPSEC and Disappearance 01:19:13 Craig Wright Not Satoshi 01:26:05 Libertaria and Frontier Culture 01:28:31 No More Frontiers for Freedom 01:39:21 App Delistings and PWA Debate 01:49:16 Twitter Worse Under Elon Musk 01:55:35 AI Ruining Internet Trust 01:56:33 Introduction to Covenants 01:57:04 Covenant = Unbreakable Promise 02:00:55 History of Covenant Discussions 02:01:29 Permanent Encumbrance FUD Debunked 02:03:38 Control Today via Multisig (No Covenants) 02:07:26 Covenants Don't Break Fungibility 02:08:35 Covenants Reduce Trust in L2 02:11:46 Post-Quantum Covenant Advantages 02:13:46 OP_CTV Explained 02:15:42 Non-Interactive L2 Settlements 02:20:23 Congestion Control with Covenants 02:29:08 Ordinals Drama & OP_CAT Risks 02:31:43 Jeremy Rubin Context 02:33:49 LNHANCE Package (CTV + More) 02:36:51 Why LNHANCE is Conservative 02:44:26 2022 CTV Activation Drama 02:47:27 Curiosity vs Annoyance Motivation 02:49:04 Andreas Antonopoulos FUD Clip 02:51:15 Need for Covenant FUD FAQ 02:53:47 Persistent CTV Critics 03:55:27 Covenant FUD Knowledge Base Need 03:56:26 Steven Roose Support 03:57:40 Covenant Table on Wiki 03:58:56 Isolated Op Code Comparisons Issues 04:00:34 OPCAT vs CTV Preferences 04:01:48 Table Inconsistencies 04:02:19 Ordinals Devs Pushing OPCAT 04:03:26 CTV Strengths and Risks 04:10:22 Ideal Packages (Great Script Restoration) 04:43:24 Pink Floyd "The Wall" Analogy 04:45:49 Citadel Critique 04:49:49 Need for New Frontiers 04:51:56 Disagreeable Societies Preserve Freedom 04:54:56 Special Economic Zones for Renewal 04:57:50 Altcoins as Competition/Experiments 04:59:20 Privacy Coins Driving Response 06:00:34 Monero Privacy & Community 06:04:42 FCMP++ Upgrade 06:05:37 Monero Quantum Roadmap 06:07:16 Quantum Risks to Monero 06:09:47 Zcash Preference & Compatibility 06:11:34 ZK Privacy Advantages 06:13:16 Drivechains & Peg Risks 06:17:45 Spacechains 06:20:31 Quantum Threats to ECDSA 06:26:49 PQ Soft/Hard Fork Debate 06:34:57 Covenants for PQ Vaults 06:38:14 Ark Protocol 06:42:33 Lightning Custodial Risks 06:50:19 BitVM & Optimistic Rollups 06:55:44 Bitcoin Dev Culture Disappointment 07:49:05 Austrian vs Cypherpunk Values 07:53:20 Austrians Dislike Data 07:54:39 Full Reserve Myth 07:55:56 Core Dev Covenant Silence 07:57:32 Core Ignoring Covenants 07:58:22 Floppy's Drunk Posting 08:00:38 Calle's Cashu Story 08:02:02 Privacy Respect & Avoiding Doxing 08:02:29 Floppy's Drunk Tweets 08:03:48 Tolerance for Abusive Behavior 08:04:15 Understanding Non-Engagement with Floppy 08:04:32 Floppy as Builder (Joinstr Plugin) 08:04:57 Luke Dashjr Funding Complaints 08:05:23 Luke's Likability & Hack 08:06:36 Ocean Mining Business Model 08:08:36 Reducing Antpool Hash Dominance 08:08:56 Miner Template Building Debate 08:09:02 Mining Centralization Concerns 09:38:04 9+ Hour Marathon Reflection 09:38:45 Girlfriend & Cat Interruptions 09:39:12 How to Follow Moonsettler 09:39:45 Moonsettler's Twitter Content Focus 09:40:38 Shoutout to SimulXXX (CTV Advocate) 09:41:29 Moonsettler as Crypto Hobbyist 09:42:37 Major Contributions Discussion 09:43:38 Non-Interactive Hardware Wallet Proofs 09:44:36 Sharing Personal Bitcoin Vision 09:45:14 Coldcard Experimental Implementation 10:03:18 Seed Backup Durability & Preference for Burnable Paper Backups 10:04:22 Manual Entropy & Seed Splitting 10:05:01 Early Self-Custody Cheat Sheets 10:05:25 Hardware Wallet Entropy Risks 10:06:30 Dice-Rolled Seeds vs Hardware 10:07:27 2-of-3 Backup Scheme 10:07:59 Crypto Steel Promo 10:08:24 10-Hour Mark, No Bathroom Break 10:08:49 Thanks & Merry Christmas 10:09:41 Next Episode Tease

Alex Chepurnoy is a cryptographer & researcher who famously wrote a Bitcoin client in Haskell in only 3600 lines of code. He is currently working on Ergo, a proof of work blockchain which improves upon Bitcoin's design in order to achieve smart contracts and DeFi. How does it work? Let's find out! Time stamps: 00:01:11 Introducing Alex Chepurnoy 00:01:51 Alex’s Bitcoin Discovery & Early Development 00:02:37 Namecoin, SmartContract.com, and Cardano Involvement 00:05:15 Satoshi Theories & Code Analysis 00:07:00 Rewriting Bitcoin & Distributed Systems Perspective 00:08:39 Consensus Protocols & Altcoin Proliferation 00:10:20 Bitcoin’s Early Appeal & Peer-to-Peer Motivation 00:14:08 Bitcoin’s Revolutionary Monetary Model 00:15:45 Staying in Crypto: Problems to Solve 00:17:19 Bitcoin as Digital Gold & Smart Contracts 00:21:29 Ethereum vs. Bitcoin: Contractual Capabilities 00:23:02 Ergo’s Approach: Contracts & Protocol Upgrades 00:26:56 Namecoin’s History & Technical Innovations 00:31:10 Merged Mining & Sidechain Politics 00:34:35 Early Bitcoin Contributions & BTC Scala Client 00:38:49 Conference Presentations & ZeroJoin 00:41:49 Demurrage, Storage Rent, and Bitcoin Upgrades 00:45:01 NFTs, Inscriptions, and Bitcoin Community Divisions 00:50:10 Hard Forks, Immutability, and Ethereum Classic 00:55:17 Markets, Transaction Fees, and Bitcoin’s Security Budget 00:57:59 Lightning Network Limitations & Off-Chain Cash 01:01:58 Challenging Bitcoin’s Scaling & Off-Chain Solutions 01:06:38 Ergo’s Protocol Design & Civil War Lessons 01:08:25 Ergo’s Innovations for Bitcoin 01:15:38 Quantum Resistance & Hard Fork Challenges 01:19:51 Consensus Cleanup & Upgrade Difficulties 01:23:10 Community Proposals & Development Gridlock 01:25:07 Alex’s Tech Stack & Personal Devices 01:31:07 Satoshi’s Identity & Coding Style 01:38:34 NXT, Bitcoin 2.0, and Ethereum’s Success 01:45:35 Proof of Work vs. Proof of Stake 01:50:44 Philosophy of Proof of Work & Fair Distribution 01:53:09 VCs, Token Dumps, and Proof of Work Revival 01:54:16 Proof of Stake Attacks & Network Resilience 01:59:20 Ergo’s Network Parameters & Smart Contracts 02:21:17 Privacy Features: Mixers & Stealth Addresses 02:28:40 Monetary Policy, Emission, and Pre-mine 02:34:09 Monero vs. Zcash: Community & Funding 02:48:03 Bridging Blockchains & Rosen Bridge 02:51:04 Peer-to-Peer Finance & Smart Contract Design 02:53:57 Future Vision: Interconnected PoW Blockchains 02:56:41 Double Merged Mining Sidechains 03:17:45 Community Resources & Getting Involved 03:20:11 Conclusion & Final Thoughts

David Bailey is the chairman of Bitcoin Magazine, the organizer of the most successful series of Bitcoin conferences, and the mastermind behind the Nakamoto BTC treasury company. In this episode, we talk about his latest business dealings and the current state of the Bitcoin bull market. Time stamps: 00:01:47 Bitcoin Magazine’s Bitcoin-Only Pivot 00:02:17 Surviving 2018 and the COVID Pivot 00:04:09 Scaling Up: Conferences and Global Expansion 00:05:11 Bringing Politicians to Bitcoin 00:07:35 Trump’s Embrace of Bitcoin and Global Perception 00:09:48 Bitcoin Price Expectations and Political Impact 00:10:56 Presidential Pardons and the Lack of a Strategic Bitcoin Reserve 00:14:10 Trump Meme Coins and Industry Signals 00:17:07 Privacy, Regulation, and Privacy Acceleration Thanks to Zcash 00:20:53 Nakamoto Stock Price and Public Company Challenges 00:23:00 Bitcoin Treasury Companies: Purpose and Model 00:24:40 Evolution of Bitcoin Financialization (Banks, ETFs, Strategic Reserves, Reserve Companies) 00:35:42 David Bailey Addresses Accusations of Mismanagement 00:44:00 Bitcoin Price, Narratives, and Community Factions 00:45:05 Bullish Narratives and Breaking the Four-Year Cycle 00:46:21 Core vs. Knots: Development and Forks 00:49:35 Bitcoin Improvement Proposals and Development Stagnation 00:50:28 Jeremy Rubin in the Epstein Files, Bitcoin's Public Perception 00:54:01 Trump, Epstein, and Political Distractions 00:55:00 Bitcoin.com’s Shift and Roger Ver Reflections 01:01:48 BCH Fork, Losses, and Historical Lessons 01:02:41 Conspiracy Theories: Censorship and Satoshi’s Coins Post-Quantum 01:05:00 Quantum Risk and Bitcoin’s Long-Term Security 01:10:24 Altcoins: Legitimacy and Usefulness 01:18:11 Ethereum, Solana, and Bitcoin’s Competitive Edge 01:22:27 Bitcoin’s Youth and Historical Significance 01:22:58 Operation Choke Point 3.0 and Wall Street Resistance 01:30:20 Would David Bailey Become Crypto Czar? 01:34:04 Why Invest in Nakamoto? 01:37:28 Comparing Treasury Companies 01:40:28 If You Could Change One Thing in Bitcoin: Drivechains 01:42:03 Security Budget, Scaling, and Miner Incentives 01:46:50 Bitcoin Price Predictions and the Four-Year Cycle 01:55:02 Social Media, Narratives, and Bitcoin Culture 01:58:24 Bitcoin as Money and Regulatory Setbacks 02:03:13 Closing Thoughts and Pardons

Abdel is one of the most prolific developers in the Zero Knowledge space. Since our conversation in September, he was able to accomplish so much that he requested another interview to talk about it. So what happened with ZK STARKs that is so important? Time stamps: 00:01:04 Podcast Introduction & Sponsor Acknowledgments 00:02:15 Vlad's Rant on Bitcoin Media & Podcast Landscape 00:03:24 Bitcoin Takeover Podcast Mission & Seven-Year Anniversary 00:04:39 Transition to Abdel’s Updates & ZK-STARKS 00:05:44 Abdel’s Zcash & Bitcoin Proposals 00:07:00 Comparing Bitcoin and Zcash Community Reactions 00:08:36 Altcoins as Experimentation Grounds 00:11:23 Scaling, Rollups, and Drivechains 00:13:10 Abdel’s Proposal for Native STARK Verification 00:17:19 Zcash’s TDE and Layer 2 Possibilities 00:19:22 ZK-Rollups, Privacy, and Regulatory Pressures 00:21:02 Government Surveillance & KYC Concerns 00:24:26 Cultural Stigma Around Bitcoin Privacy 00:25:34 Zcash’s SEC Presentation & Institutional Acceptance 00:28:58 Debate on Privacy, Transparency, and Backdoors 00:30:00 Bitcoin’s Social Layer & Governance 00:32:47 Critique of Bitcoin Perfectionism & Altcoin Dismissal 00:35:49 Bitcoin’s Mission: P2P Cash vs. Store of Value 00:36:49 Learning from Ethereum & Second-Layer Innovations 00:37:24 Sponsor Plugs & BTCfi Introduction 00:40:14 BTCfi: Bitcoin Staking & Yield Mechanisms 00:46:15 Bridging BTC to StarkNet & Atomic Swaps 00:48:36 BTCfi: KYC, Permissionless DeFi, and Institutional Offerings 00:50:59 DeFi Risks & Bitcoin Staking Security 00:51:40 ZK-STARK Verifiers on Bitcoin Cash 00:53:10 Bitcoin Cash, Zcash, and Social Layer Value 00:58:54 Bitcoin Cash’s Technical Innovations & Community Dynamics 01:00:04 Quantum Resistance: Investor Fears & Satoshi’s Coins 01:02:29 Quantum Threat Timeline & Migration Planning 01:10:25 Quantum-Resistant Signatures & Scalability Trade-offs 01:11:20 Hard Fork vs. Soft Fork for Quantum Resistance 01:13:08 Consensus, Confiscation Proposals, and Social Risks 01:17:56 Stagnation in Bitcoin Development & Altcoin Innovation 01:23:12 Ethereum’s Role in Crypto Ecosystem 01:25:24 Zcash’s Dual Incentives & Institutional Recognition 01:28:08 Zcash’s Future: Innovation vs. Ossification 01:30:39 Sponsor Plugs: Noones & SideShift 01:33:42 Quantum Resistance Migration: Hard Fork Efficiency 01:37:11 Bitcoin’s Future: Security, Consensus, and Upgrades 01:43:09 Bull Markets, Technological Breakthroughs, and Lightning 01:45:18 Lightning’s Shift to B2B & Retail Challenges 01:47:02 Bitcoin Treasury Companies & Business Models 01:49:18 Seinfeld Analogy & Bitcoin’s Societal Impact 01:52:11 Magic Wand: Abdel’s One Change for Bitcoin 01:54:03 Legitimate Altcoins & Project Criteria 01:57:16 Monero, Kaspa, Litecoin, and Altcoin Usefulness 02:02:06 ZK-STARKs: Complementary or Standard? 02:06:21 ZK-STARKs for Fast Bitcoin Syncing 02:10:27 Call for Wallet Integration & User Experience 02:14:08 Bull Bitcoin Wallet & Open Source Security 02:22:02 Freedom Tech, Nostr, and ZK for Sovereignty 02:26:02 ZK-STARKs: Career Opportunities & Verification 02:28:41 Outro & Listener Easter Egg

Alan Szepieniec is a cryptographer & systems architect who specializes in Zero Knowledge proofs. He created Neptune Cash, a L1 network which combines ZK STARKs with Proof of Work in order to have a money system that's private, scalable & quantum resistant. Time stamps: 00:00:00 Intro & Sponsors 00:02:30 Welcome Alan Szepieniec 00:03:02 Alan's Background in Cryptography & Libertarianism 00:05:15 Path to Bitcoin & Privacy Disillusionment 00:07:30 Privacy as Essential for Fungible Money 00:09:44 Network-Level Privacy & Censorship Resistance 00:12:15 Debate on Privacy Improvements in Bitcoin 00:14:01 Scalability Trade-offs with Recursive ZK Proofs 00:17:26 Lightning Network Privacy Limitations 00:22:39 Lightning's Potential for High-Frequency Trading 00:26:41 Custodial Risks & ZK-Proven Custodians 00:31:21 Sponsor: Unstoppable Wallet 00:33:17 Sponsor: Sideshift.ai 00:34:20 ZK-STARKs Explained & vs ZK-SNARKs 00:36:12 Quantum Resistance & Transparent Setup 00:41:56 Drivechains (BIP 300) & STARK Integration Potential 00:44:58 OP_CAT vs Custom Opcodes for STARK Verification 00:49:46 Why Coinjoins Aren't Sufficient for Privacy 00:56:27 Lightning's Unique Privacy Properties 00:56:50 Halo 2 & Removing Trusted Setup from SNARKs 00:58:44 Zcash L2 on Starknet 01:00:26 Why ZK-STARKs on Layer 1 01:03:20 Neptune Cash: Privacy, Scalability & Smart Contracts 01:07:33 Custom STARK Engine & Assembler Language 01:09:09 Proof-of-Work Design & GPU Mining 01:14:08 Inflation Bug & Network Relaunch 01:17:13 Decentralization Roadmap 01:19:00 Current Drawbacks: UX & Proof Generation 01:22:39 Node & Transaction Hardware Requirements 01:29:36 Quantum Computing Threats Discussion 01:33:01 Satoshi's Coins & Quantum Risks 01:36:38 Store of Value vs Medium of Exchange 01:43:13 Regulations Hurting Adoption 01:45:40 Monero Talk & Signatureless Transactions 01:47:58 Monero vs Bitcoin Communities 01:54:06 Adding Lightning Network to Neptune Cash 01:55:06 Lightning Network & Atomic Swaps Potential 01:56:48 Removing Centralized Exchanges via Bridges 01:57:17 Neptune Cash Lightning Network Plans 01:58:36 Prioritizing Faster Proving & Smart Contracts 02:00:36 Rapid Fire: Max Supply (40.5M after burn) 02:01:24 Block Time (9.8 minutes) & Difficulty Adjustment 02:01:56 Block Size (8 MB limit) 02:02:21 Elevator Pitch for Neptune Cash 02:03:17 Sidechain/Drivechain/Rollup on Bitcoin? 02:04:33 Privacy Comparison: Neptune vs Zcash vs Monero 02:05:38 Mutator Set vs Nullifier Set Explained 02:06:48 Privacy Ratings (Zcash 8/10, Monero 9/10 future, Neptune 6-7/10 + scalability bonus) 02:09:18 Scaling Ratings (Bitcoin 9/10, Neptune 8/10 future, Zcash/Monero 6/10) 02:12:24 Price Movement During Interview & Shitcoin Debate 02:14:54 Premine vs Fair Launch Discussion 02:17:35 Ethereum Premine Success & Grin vs Beam 02:19:10 Zcash Dev Fund Model 02:22:17 Building Circular Economies & Network Effects 02:27:04 Could Bitcoin Become Like Neptune Cash? 02:30:44 Connection Issues & Wrap-Up 02:33:05 Legacy UTXOs & Quantum Vulnerability 02:35:09 Where to Follow Neptune Cash & Alan 02:37:09 Is Satoshi an AI/Time Traveler? 02:38:46 Final Thanks & Goodbye

Jonathan Bier is the author of the influential best-seller "The Blocksize War: The battle over who controls Bitcoin’s protocol rules", as well as one of the most prolific and respected researchers in Bitcoin. He is also an active investor who sits on various company boards and advises projects in the space. In this episode, we talk about parallels between the Bitcoin scaling debate and the filter wars, but also highlight some debunked Satoshi Nakamoto claims. Time stamps: 00:01:11 - Introducing Jonathan Bier and Blocksize War Book 00:02:44 - Meeting BitMEX Founders and Starting Research 00:05:31 - Arthur Hayes' Blog Writing and Vision 00:07:32 - BitMEX Success: Leverage, Perpetual Swaps, Troll Box 00:10:43 - FTX Copying BitMEX and Backend Issues 00:11:20 - Binance's Rise and Market Dominance 00:13:49 - BitMEX's Slow Adoption of Stablecoins 00:16:39 - Current BitMEX Volumes and Rankings 00:17:39 - History of Bitcoin Derivatives and Innovations 00:23:49 - Jonathan's First Bitcoin Encounter in 2010 00:26:12 - 2011 Bubble and Mt. Gox Scandal 00:28:02 - Views on Bitcoin Bubbles and Valuations 00:30:19 - Ad: Bitcoin.com News 00:31:00 - Layer 2 Labs Question: Is Lightning a Waste? 00:32:08 - Lightning Network Success and Limitations 00:35:02 - Scaling Challenges and Sidechains 00:37:30 - Current Filter Wars and Ordinals/Inscriptions 00:39:40 - History of Relay Policies and RBF 00:43:49 - OP_RETURN Limits and Debates 00:47:04 - Bitnod.es Website and Node Peers 00:48:39 - Ineffectiveness of Filters 00:50:00 - Super TestNet's Bandwidth Argument 00:51:42 - Generational Crusades in Bitcoin 01:01:55 - London Meetup Stories and Fanaticism 01:15:00 - Loss of Merchants Post-Blocksize War 01:18:13 - Ethereum Benefiting from Bitcoin Decisions 01:18:48 - 2014 OP_RETURN Wars and Counterparty 01:23:03 - Reasons Counterparty Failed 01:27:31 - Mastercoin, First ICO, and Omni/Tether 01:29:37 - Zcash Launch and BitMEX Futures Shenanigans 01:33:26 - Ethereum DevCon 2016 Attack Story 01:35:04 - Conferences Then vs Now 01:38:00 - Cultural Divide in Bitcoin Maxis 01:39:46 - Misconceptions About Bitcoin Core Developers 01:43:25 - Youth of Early Developers Like Tamas 01:46:59 - Criteria for Developers and Unicorn Myth 01:48:41 - Educators in Bitcoin History: From Satoshi to Saylor 01:52:05 - Dumbing Down of Bitcoin Narratives 01:55:34 - Past Idiocy and Learning Curves 01:56:50 - BIP 444 Dangers and Ineffectiveness 02:00:59 - Irony of Anti-Spam Fork and Spam Magnets 02:01:22 - Parallels to Blocksize Wars, Bitcoin Cash Price Peaks 02:03:30 - Excitement and Fear During BCH Surge 02:04:28 - Reasons Big Blockers Couldn't Compete, Craig Wright's Role 02:05:16 - Satoshi's Response to Scaling Concerns (2008) 02:06:05 - Jeff Garzik's Early Block Size Proposal (2010) 02:07:33 - Early Onchain Exchanges and Scaling Realization 02:07:58 - Defining Small Blocker vs Big Blocker 02:08:56 - Surplus Capacity in Blocks Debate 02:10:10 - Cultural Biases: Technical vs Business Sides 02:11:32 - Competent Developers on BCH Side, Inflation Bug 02:12:35 - Block Size Numbers Not the Core Issue 02:13:29 - Modern Block Size Increase Justification 02:14:15 - Hard Forks Unlikely, Quantum Signatures 02:15:03 - James O'Beirne's Block Size Presentation 02:15:54 - Filter Wars Impact on Future Changes 02:17:13 - Spam as Reason Against Block Size Increase 02:18:18 - Quantum Safe Spending Proposal 02:19:31 - Fee Market vs Crusades Against Spam 02:20:45 - Craig Wright's Unintentional Help to Small Blockers 02:22:04 - Jihan Wu's Dislike of Craig Wright 02:23:34 - ASIC Boost Role in BCH Creation 02:24:50 - Covert vs Overt ASIC Boost Explained 02:30:00 - Treasuries and MicroStrategy Debt Structures 02:35:00 - Bitcoin Treasuries vs Ponzi Schemes 02:40:00 - Balancing Professional Life and Cypherpunk Roots 02:42:31 - Advisor Roles: Bitwise, Brink, Maelstrom 02:53:16 - Privacy Tools: Payjoin, Silent Payments, CoinJoin 02:54:41 - Ethereum vs Bitcoin on Privacy Support 02:55:45 - Ross Ulbricht Pardon and Government Misconduct 03:00:13 - Curtis Green's Torture and Fake Death 03:03:00 - Aaron Swartz Comparison 03:04:29 - Cypherpunk Culture Not Scaling 03:05:53 - ETFs as Bitcoin Scaling Layer 03:07:39 - IBIT vs WBTC Similarities 03:09:00 - Three Legit Altcoins: Monero, Dogecoin, Litecoin 03:10:02 - Satoshi's Views on Block Sizes 03:11:02 - Closing and Follow Jonathan Bier

Curtis Green, better knows by OG bitcoiners as "Chronicpain" or "Flush", is a former forum moderator and website administrator of the Silk Road internet marketplace. He is a man who has mined bitcoin early enough to get scammed by Butterfly Labs, and was allegedly also the target of a bounty on assassination markets. He's seen all eras of Bitcoin, and today he seeks to get pardoned by the Trump administration. He will accept donations from community members in order to get the legal help he needs. Read Curtis Green's book, "Silk Road Takedown": https://www.amazon.com/dp/1729436889 Donate to Curtis Green: https://www.satlantis.io/events/1210/Evening-with-OG-Curtis-Green%2C-admin-of-The-Silk-Road Time stamps: 00:01:18 Welcome Curtis Green, Silk Road OG 00:02:06 Seeking Clemency, Focus Shift from Ross 00:04:02 Misnomers, Site Rules & Govt Narrative 00:07:27 Bitcoin Skepticism, Forum Learning 00:11:02 PGP/Key Lessons 00:13:04 Harm Reduction Suggestion, Forum Admin 00:15:23 Freedom Emphasis, Site Growth Post-Schumer 00:17:00 Bitcoin as Freedom Tool 00:21:36 Verify Mindset 00:22:59 Mining & Gifting BTC, Family Rejection 00:26:01 Price Doubts, Ethereum Shift 00:29:02 Arrest Warning 00:33:40 Mining Fun 00:36:02 When Schumer Promoted Silk Road 00:38:17 Arrest Story, Corrupt Agents 00:39:55 BTC Theft by Shaun ridges 00:43:04 Faked Torture, Murder Threat 00:45:04 Playing Dead for 10 Months 00:48:03 Narrative Control, Cash Seizure 00:51:21 Limited DPR Info, Accusations 00:53:28 Site Takedown, Personal Hell 00:55:00 Family Struggles, Entrepreneurship 00:57:12 Book & Documentary Distortions 00:59:45 Corrupt Agents' Trials 01:02:30 Force's Extortion Attempts 01:05:15 Bridges' Theft Details 01:07:50 Sentencing, No Prison 01:10:20 Clemency Petition 01:13:45 Bitcoin Evolution Reflections 01:16:10 Mining Zcash, Privacy Views 01:19:30 Early Bitcoin Doubts 01:22:45 Forum Discussions, Community 01:25:00 Harm Reduction Impact 01:27:30 Global Revolution Hopes 01:32:03 Consensus & Debates 01:34:02 Aha Moments 01:39:01 Narrative Shaping Power 01:41:23 Life Experiences Gratitude 01:43:37 Speaking Out, Misjudgments 01:45:03 Educating on Crypto Choices 01:46:00 Future Optimism 01:47:32 Educators like Antonopoulos 01:49:52 Community Support Moments 01:52:07 Bitcoin Changes Narrative 01:53:02 Lightning Node Experience 01:55:55 Lightning Hopes & Issues 01:57:05 Wrapped BTC Concerns 01:59:14 WBTC on Ethereum Popularity 02:00:14 Block Size Debates 02:02:07 Satoshi's Scaling Views 02:04:33 Lightning Limitations 02:06:00 Scaling Consensus Challenges 02:08:44 Roger Ver's Unity Point 02:10:10 Early Empty Blocks 02:12:04 Zcash Proposal for Bitcoin 02:14:03 Sponsors: NoOnes & SideShift 02:16:42 ShapeShift Confusion 02:18:00 Tunnel Vision on BTC Amounts 02:18:07 Bitcoin Changes & Consensus Hopes 02:18:30 ETFs Caution, Mainstream Adoption 02:19:33 Peer-to-Peer Origins, Early Exchanges 02:20:05 Postal Money Orders for BTC 02:21:02 Alpaca Socks & Honey Purchases 02:21:49 Early BTC Buys, Galaxy Tab Scam 02:23:15 BTC as Tool, Not Dollars 02:24:01 Holding vs Spending 02:26:00 Early Satoshi Discussions 02:27:27 Adoption Decline Rant 02:28:22 BTC Scarcity & Usage 02:29:03 Layer 2 Hopes, Wife's Worries 02:30:05 Mining Challenges Over Time 02:31:03 Still Early in Bitcoin? 02:32:25 Satoshi's Blueprint, Competition 02:33:30 First Bitcoin Encounter 02:34:51 Silk Road Catalyst for BTC 02:35:25 Rabbit Hole Journey 02:36:31 Govt Op Doubts Nixed 02:37:02 Aha Moment in 2012 02:38:00 Grateful for Silk Road Lessons 02:39:02 Bad Rap Focus on Drugs 02:40:47 Pinnacle in BTC History 02:41:29 Speaking Out & Education 02:42:03 DPR's Clean Water Ideas 02:43:00 Zcash Mining Hype & Launch Supply Dynamics 02:45:01 Keeping ZEC, Mining Costs 02:46:09 Buying vs Mining Regrets 02:47:11 Hindsight on Holding 02:48:31 ASIC Delivery Post-Arrest 02:49:03 Keeping Quiet on Miners 02:50:07 Side Stories Justification 02:51:03 Mentality Shifts 02:52:17 Hopes for Bitcoin Win 02:53:01 Cultural vs Technical Issues 02:53:46 SegWit & Taproot Changes 02:55:38 Privacy Proposals 02:57:01 Developer Frustrations 02:58:04 Greed & Humanity Balance 02:59:20 Year-by-Year Changes 03:00:04 ETF as Scaling Layer 03:02:05 High Hopes & 21M Cap Worries 03:03:05 Verification Defeat 04:03:30 Genesis Block & Bailouts 04:04:03 Fractional Reserves Drop 04:04:38 ETF Trust Issues 04:04:52 Proof of Keys Celebration 04:05:55 Back to Banks Cycle 04:06:07 Lightning Custodial Wallets & Centralization 04:14:02 Start9 & Braiins BMM Miner 04:18:02 Home Miners Appeal 04:49:44 Guilty Plea Frustrations 04:51:18 AlphaBay Documentary & Monero Adoption 04:52:48 Dark Web Warnings 04:55:32 Trusted Escrows 04:56:47 Bitcoin Talk Scams 04:57:13 Satlantis Donations & Adopting Bitcoin Talk

Leona Hioki is the CEO, co-founder & architect of INTMAX: a ZK rollup layer 2 that focuses on private payments, scalability, and low fees. In this episode, we talk about scaling & privacy tech for Bitcoin & what we can learn from Ethereum. Time stamps: 00:01:17 -Introducing Leona 00:02:47 - Leona Hioki's Background 00:03:38 - Discussion on Past Podcasts and Zcash Pump Dance 00:05:00 - Privacy Trends in Crypto 00:05:26 - INTMAX Overview: Privacy, Scalability, Trade-offs 00:05:44 - Client-Side Validation and ZKP in INTMAX 00:08:22 - Comparison to Zcash and RGB 00:08:46 - INTMAX on Ethereum and Potential Bitcoin Integration 00:11:02 - INTMAX vs. StarkWare 00:14:15 - Stateless vs. Stateful Systems 00:15:05 - Evolution from Plasma to INTMAX 00:18:56 - Similarities to Lightning Network 00:19:47 - Market Dynamics of Ethereum L2s 00:20:25 - ZK Rollups vs. Optimistic Rollups 00:24:45 - Fragmentation in Ethereum L2 Ecosystem 00:26:19 - Role of Money and Base Outage Concerns 00:28:03 - Trade-offs in Decentralization 00:29:34 - Differences Between Rollups and Sidechains 00:32:42 - Bitcoin Script Limitations and ZKP Verification 00:35:18 - Cultural Issues in Bitcoin Upgrades 00:36:56 - Miner Revenue and Drivechains 00:41:58 - Bitcoin in Japan and Satoshi's Name 00:43:24 - Speculation on Satoshi's Identity 00:44:48 - Early Bitcoin Community in Japan 00:45:28 - Post-2018 Regulations in Japan 00:48:37 - Moving to Switzerland for Privacy Projects 00:50:55 - Amir Taaki's Experiences 00:52:37 - Japanese Society and Libertarianism 00:56:30 - Cryptography History and Crypto Wars 01:00:22 - Podcast Milestone and Hardware Wallets 01:02:38 - Trezor Safe 5 and Quantum Resistance 01:05:58 - Quantum Computing and Privacy Risks 01:08:06 - UTXO Model and Bitcoin's Design 01:09:48 - Satoshi's Intentions and Op Codes 01:11:57 - Bitcoin as Money Network, Not Just Digital Gold 01:14:21 - Monolithic vs. Modular Blockchains 01:17:07 - Drivechains and BIP Proposals 01:20:58 - Stateless Clients for Drivechains 01:24:23 - Zcash's Potential and Comparisons to Monero 01:27:52 - Future Scenarios for Zcash 01:30:57 - Zcash vs. Monero Market Focus 01:33:39 - Client-Side Validation for Zcash 01:36:27 - Interactions with Zooko Wilcox 01:39:47 - Proof of Work vs. Proof of Stake 01:46:16 - Fairness in Proof of Work 01:47:17 - Home Mining Devices 01:51:53 - Decentralizing Mining 01:53:05 - AML in INTMAX Privacy Mining 01:56:34 - Confidential Layers and Bridges 01:57:59 - Proof of Innocence in Privacy 02:00:04 - Replacing Centralized Exchanges with DEXs 02:00:48 - Uniswap and Decentralized Fiat Onramps 02:00:44 - Narrative on Zcash vs Monero Exchange Listings 02:01:04 - Zcash Listings on Major Exchanges 02:01:55 - Monero Listings and Volume 02:03:26 - Ranking of Exchanges 02:05:00 - Alternative Ways to Buy Monero 02:05:31 - Flashshift App for Swaps 02:06:34 - Zcash Support in Flashshift 02:07:15 - Zashi Wallet Features 02:08:00 - Planning Privacy Vampires Conference in Romania 02:09:58 - Vampires and Privacy Analogy 02:11:06 - Challenges of Privacy Conferences 02:12:22 - Interest in Visiting Romania and Japan 02:13:21 - Japan Recommendations and Metaplanet 02:14:15 - Japan vs Switzerland Bitcoin Culture 02:17:18 - Personal Story with Bitcoin 02:19:49 - Reactions to Bitcoin and Ethereum 02:22:27 - Bitcoin vs Ethereum Purposes 02:23:10 - Coin Distribution and Fairness 02:26:49 - Perfect System for Fairness 02:28:03 - Proof of Work Fairness 02:29:02 - Grin Fair Launch Example 02:31:07 - Premines and Dev Taxes 02:32:58 - Spreadsheet Coins and Competition 02:33:05 - Ethereum ICO Success 02:35:28 - Ethereum Competitors' Impact 02:36:50 - Zcash Dev Tax Benefits 02:38:20 - Issues with Scams in Premines 02:39:22 - Value of Experimentation 02:39:38 - Closing Remarks and Follows 02:40:55 - Thanks and Sponsors

Recently, Trezor unveiled the Safe 7: the first hardware wallet in the world to include the Tropic Square verifiable secure element chip, a true game-changer for Bitcoin security. In this episode, Matej Zak & Tomáš Sušánka explain how it works. Buy your Trezor Safe 7 (referral link): https://affil.trezor.io/SHuM Time stamps: 00:01:13 - Introduction to the podcast episode and guests (Matej Zak, CEO, and Tomáš Sušánka, CTO of Trezor). 00:01:34 - Discussion of the Trezor Safe 7 product launch event in Prague and the host's excitement about the Tropic Square chip. 00:01:55 - Mention of the live unboxing and potential for things to go wrong. 00:02:17 - Addressing rumors about paying influencers; clarification that no payments were made, only travel costs covered. 00:03:11 - Start of unboxing the Trezor Safe 7, focusing on packaging security and tamper-proof elements. 00:04:31 - Overview of Trezor Safe 7 features: flagship product, auditable secure element, large color touchscreen, premium build quality, Bluetooth connectivity, and quantum protections. 00:07:20 - Explanation of "quantum ready" label: Post-quantum signatures for bootloader updates and device authenticity, not full quantum-proofing for Bitcoin. 00:09:00 - Deeper dive into quantum readiness, industry trends (e.g., Cloudflare, Apple), and why it's not a gimmick. 00:12:51 - Continuation of unboxing: Tamper-proof seals, holographic stickers, and physical security layers. 00:14:18 - Confirmation that devices ship without firmware; installation happens via Trezor Suite for added security. 00:15:26 - Setup process on iPhone: Downloading the app, Bluetooth pairing, and why iPhone compatibility was prioritized. 00:16:10 - Market insights: US as the biggest market, challenges with Apple (MFi program), and opting for Bluetooth over cables. 00:18:30 - Ads segment (Sideshift.ai, Layer 2 Labs, NoOnes.com, news.bitcoin.com). 00:20:13 - Resuming app setup: Privacy options, biometrics, Bluetooth permissions, and pairing code. 00:21:42 - Counting physical security layers (five in total) and their purpose. 00:23:07 - Authenticity checks in the app: Confirming purchase source, seals, and packaging integrity. 00:24:09 - Firmware installation process and confirmation that devices ship with only bootloader. 00:25:05 - Discussion of dual secure elements (Tropic Square T01 and Infineon Optiga Trust M) for enhanced security. 00:26:01 - Bluetooth security: End-to-end encryption using Noise protocol. 00:27:04 - Haptic feedback and one-time code for pairing confirmation. 00:28:00 - Device authenticity verification via secure elements. 00:29:39 - More on quantum readiness: Post-quantum certificates for future implementation. 00:30:23 - Tutorial walkthrough: Power button, menu options, and Tropic Square chip explanation. 00:30:59 - Background on Tropic Square: Origin story, name meaning (Truly Open IC), and founding to create auditable secure elements. 00:32:06 - Experience with proprietary secure elements: Discovering vulnerabilities under NDA and deciding to develop an open alternative. 00:34:25 - Why Tropic Square chip is described as "auditable and transparent" rather than fully "open source" (digital parts open, analog parts not yet due to costs; no NDAs required). 00:37:18 - Advantages of Tropic Square for competitors: Better security, transparency, and ability to discuss vulnerabilities openly. 00:38:46 - Competition philosophy: Focus on features, software, third-party integrations, and innovation rather than aggressive tactics. 00:40:29 - Bitcoin-only version mention and pre-order availability. 00:41:26 - Completion of setup tutorial; default 20-word SLIP-39 backup with options for multi-share. 00:43:41 - Metrics for setup experience: Emphasis on user understanding over speed. 00:45:32 - Compatibility with BIP-44 for multi-asset support; differences limited to SLIP-39 replacing BIP-39. 00:47:09 - Status as production-quality device; shipping soon, with room for early feedback. 00:49:19 - Audience questions: Ordering in Southeast Asia (via trezor.io or vetted resellers). 00:50:35 - Audience questions: Coin control in mobile app (planned for parity with desktop in a few months). 00:51:29 - Audience questions: Shielded Zcash support (on backlog, no ETA; space issues resolved but requires further cryptography work). 00:53:18 - Pricing ($250) and pre-order info. 00:53:43 - Closing remarks: Pride in the product, future features, and thanks.