Bledsoe Said So

Live from Contact in the Desert 2026, Ryan and his sister Emily discuss UFO disclosure, prophecy, angelic encounters, ancient Egypt, and the exposure of hidden darkness.

Ryan and Alex explore the Gnostic text Allogenes, focusing on emanation theology, the ineffable nature of God, and mystical encounters with angelic beings. They also talk about meditation, initiatic traditions, and the pursuit of higher spiritual knowledge, while touching on hybrid bloodline theories within esoteric and Gnostic frameworks.

Ryan and Alex discuss the Apocryphon of John, a 2nd century Gnostic text once condemned as heresy by the early church. They explore its retelling of creation, the hidden teachings of Christ, the divine goddess, the great invisible spirit, the true meaning of the Garden of Eden, the ruler of this world, and the ultimate destiny of human souls.

Ryan and Alex explore the connection between UFO phenomena, biblical and spiritual texts, alien deception, dimensional realities, and the awakening of psychic faculties as humanity moves closer to disclosure.

Alex reflects on his weekend at the Contact Modalities Xpo in Delavan, Wisconsin, spent alongside the rest of the Bledsoe family, and shares what they encountered during the nightly skywatches.

As a new father, Ryan opens up about his recent, challenging childbirth experience, sharing the emotional depth of the moment and the lasting impact it’s had on him. He and Alex explore the phenomenon of reality and perception, question the limits of free will, and reflect on “angels and demons” as symbols of inner conflict and moral tension.

Ryan and Alex explore the Lady’s appearances to St. Bernadette in Lourdes and the parallels to Ryan’s father’s experiences, along with her cosmic role as the "Mother of the Universe". They also reflect on her connection to Jesus Christ and the call to return to the true teachings of the heavenly order.

Ryan and Alex dive into the Sethian Gnostic text Zostrianos, exploring its vivid account of angelic encounters with a radiant being of light and the soul’s ascent through layered divine realms. The text outlines a cosmology of reality emanating from a single ineffable source, populated by higher Aeonic beings who stand guard at each threshold of existence. Along the way, it calls for a kind of immediate awakening, urging individuals to recognize that the kingdom of heaven is already within reach, and to turn away from the illusions and corruptions of the material world.

In this two-part episode, Ryan and Alex dive into the final book of the Bible, Revelation, exploring its powerful imagery, prophetic meaning, and lasting significance. They examine how the Lady’s message to Ryan's father in 2012 may connect to unfolding events today and unpack the complex nature of prophecy as both symbolic and literal.

In this two-part episode, Ryan and Alex dive into the final book of the Bible, Revelation, exploring its powerful imagery, prophetic meaning, and lasting significance. They examine how the Lady’s message to Ryan's father in 2012 may connect to unfolding events today and unpack the complex nature of prophecy as both symbolic and literal.

Ryan and Alex explore the deeper connections between life and death, the ancient world, and the hidden forces shaping humanity, weaving through reflections on Egypt, sun-scorched architecture, and echoes of a forgotten past that still speaks to the present. From the idea that the kingdom of heaven is at hand to the unsettling implications of the Epstein files, the conversation moves between the spiritual and the material, uncovering what feels like an ancient darkness operating beneath the surface of modern society and questioning what it means to truly see, awaken, and understand the world around us.

Ryan and Alex dive into the Coptic Nag Hammadi text Pistis Sophia, a 3rd–4th century work that presents a radically different vision of Jesus Christ and the cosmos. Set 11 years after the resurrection, it portrays Jesus as a radiant being of light teaching his disciples, especially Mary Magdalene, about his journey through heavenly realms and the redemption of Sophia, a divine figure who fell into the darkness and must rise again through repentance.They unpack this deeply symbolic story as an allegory for humanity’s fall into material existence and a blueprint for spiritual ascent, exploring themes of purification, enlightenment, and the hidden mysteries of the light.

Ryan and Alex explore the growing need for a steady spiritual practice in a time that feels increasingly apocalyptic. They discuss how truth can emerge from periods of darkness, why the rosary may function as a form of consciousness technology, and how ancient traditions, like the medieval monks’ liturgical hours of the Divine Office, offer a structured path for staying grounded amid cultural and spiritual upheaval.

Paul Citarella, Executive Vice President and Chief Technology Officer of the Monroe Institute, joins Ryan and Alex to discuss the personal journey that led him through dreams, synchronicity, and expanded states of consciousness to his role at Monroe. They explore the Institute’s new Gateway Voyage program, the power of meditation, and the profound realizations that can emerge through deep states of awareness.

Ryan and Alex revisit the themes explored on Bledsoe Said So since the Goddess episode (episode 219), tracing the deeper narrative forming around esoteric cosmology, the reality of life after death, immortality, spiritual hierarchies, and the Way of Light.

Ryan and Alex journey through the tantric cosmology of Vajrayana Tibetan Buddhism, exploring the bardo realms that bridge life and death and the dreamlike illusion of samsara. They reflect on awakening and the realization of nirvana, examining how the mind’s psychic projections shape human experience across lifetimes. They also cover the spiritual practices that allow one to see beyond illusion and awaken to a deeper, enduring reality.

Ryan and Alex explore the spiritual path introduced by Jesus Christ, not as religious doctrine, but as a universal way of life rooted in heart-centered consciousness. They examine what it means to live in alignment with the heart as a means of awakening and evolving humanity’s spiritual and intuitive faculties. Drawing from Toltec cosmology, they contemplate the universe as a living hologram of the One True God: the sun as a microcosm of the Divine, and the human heart as a microcosm of the sun. 

Ryan and Alex explore the overlap between consciousness and unseen intelligences, digging into thought forms, disembodied entities, and tulpas, ideas that suggest the mind may help create or shape non-physical realities. Drawing on Rupert Sheldrake’s theory of morphic resonance, they discuss whether reality itself has memory, and whether belief, attention, and pattern play a role in encounters with the unknown.

This week, Ryan and Alex dive into the natural spiritual process known as initiation. They explore Rosicrucianism, Egyptian mystery rituals, guiding spiritual forces, the path of the mystic, and the teachings of Rudolf Steiner unpacking how these ancient currents continue to shape spiritual awakening today.

Ryan reflects on the profound changes unfolding in the world today: a shift toward a new age of knowledge, truth, and awakening, alongside a growing divergence of consciousness between good and evil. Together, he and Alex explore how to navigate this moment with clarity, integrity, and awareness as humanity approaches a pivotal crossroads. Ryan also shares his candid thoughts on living under constant scrutiny, how it has shaped his perspective, and what it means to stand at the center of something far greater than himself.

Ryan welcomes back Jordan Crowder of the Conscious Observer Podcast for a powerful conversation on the rise of AI, ancient prophecies, and humanity’s awakening during the age of purification. From the pyramids and out-of-body experiences to faith, manifestation, and an unfolding reality shift, they explore what may lie ahead for consciousness itself.

Ryan welcomes Dalia Burgoin, a trainer and speaker on psi abilities, to discuss the life experiences that led her to awaken her psychic senses and develop the ability to see without using her eyes, even while wearing blindfolds. They explore cases of blind individuals learning to see and read, as well as the emergence of telepathic communication in non-verbal autistic children, like her daughter Lidu, as showcased in The Telepathy Tapes. 

Ryan and Alex explore humanity’s shift into a new age, one in which consciousness and technology reach a new pinnacle. They discuss ancient prophecies, mystery schools, and religious traditions that point to a future moment when the spiritual world begins to intersect with the physical realm. They also examine long-standing prophecies connected to the pyramids and the Sphinx, and what these ancient symbols may reveal about humanity’s evolving consciousness and collective future.

Ryan and Alex explore the deeper structure of reality and presence of UFO phenomena across history. They examine the idea of parasitic entities and angelic beings, and unpack the darker narrative of a planned deception using the “alien” mythos. They also discuss the enigmatic figure known as the Lady, and what her presence may reveal about humanity’s spiritual crossroads.

Ryan and Alex explore the idea of a malevolent, parasitic force that has appeared across cultures and religions throughout history. Drawing from Native American concepts like Wetiko and the Wendigo, the Zoroastrian force of Ahriman, and the deceptive Luciferic beings of esoteric traditions, they examine how different myth systems describe an intelligence that feeds on human fear and ignorance. The conversation also dives into the Gnostic Demiurge, the archons, and the notion of a false spiritual “light” that diverts humanity from authentic awakening.

Ryan welcomes researcher and author Miguel Conner for a deep dive into the roots of Gnosticism, not as a Christian offshoot, but as a pre-Christian current shaped by Egyptian mystery traditions. Together they explore concepts like the god above God, the enigmatic figure Abraxas, the role of the divine feminine, and the path of salvation through Gnosis. They also unpack the symbolic power of the serpent and examine the archon control system still reflected in modern life.Learn more about Miguel here: https://www.miguelconner.com/

This week, Ryan and Alex sit down with Adam Art — better known as 50 Shades of Consciousness — for a deep and wide-ranging conversation. Together, they explore holistic healing, the role of AI in shaping human consciousness, real-world encounters with demonic possession, the journey of spiritual awakening, Christ consciousness, and what it truly means to live as your most authentic self.Check out his content on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/50shadesofconsciousness/

Joined by Emily Bledsoe Holloway and Ignacio Diaz, Jr., the group dives into the origin and evolution of Colors, Emily’s debut album and nonlinear sonic memoir. Across nine tracks shaped by synesthetic impressions, Emily maps the emotional and spiritual chapters of her life. Supported by Nick Fermanides and Ignacio, and enriched with Monroe Sound Science®, the album offers listeners a transformational sound experience rooted in the same technology that supported her own awakening.Listen to the episode to hear Emily and the team break down the creative process, the challenges, the revelations, and the intentional soundwork behind bringing Colors to life. Discover more about Emily’s work and explore the album here: https://www.emilyholloway.com/

Ryan is joined by Jim Garrison, co-founder of the State of the World Forum, for a thought-provoking conversation about the future of humanity and our relationship with the four key intelligences: human intelligence, artificial intelligence, nature intelligence, and cosmic intelligence. Jim shares insights from his pivotal role working alongside Mikhail Gorbachev to lead the State of the World Forum from 1999 to 2000, and outlines his exciting plans to relaunch the forum virtually and in-person in December 2025. The forum will gather visionary leaders and thinkers to tackle urgent global issues, working toward a utopian future that embraces collaboration across human and non-human intelligences. For 30% off your tickets to the 2025 State of The World Forum, use code Bledsoe95. Access tickets here: https://www.stateoftheworld.forum/tickets

Ryan and Alex sit down with Ignacio Díaz Jr., Director of Music Strategy and Development and Audio Engineer at The Monroe Institute. They explore the intersection of meditation, consciousness, and sound, diving into Monroe Sound Science, the role of music in altered states, and Ignacio’s path to becoming one of the leading audio engineers shaping the Institute’s immersive experiences.

Ryan and Alex explore the true meaning of the word “apocalypse”, not as destruction, but as revelation. They dive into the multilayered nature of prophecy across cultures and traditions, compare different end-time narratives, and look at how they may all be pointing to the same underlying pattern. They also discuss the Lady’s message, what it reveals about the times we’re living in, and why so many eyes are turning toward the year 2026.

In this episode, Ryan is joined by Thomas Campbell, a physicist, consciousness researcher, and author of My Big TOE (Theory of Everything). Tom began his career working with Robert Monroe in the early 1970s, exploring altered states of consciousness and the nature of reality itself. Ryan and Tom dive into Tom’s journey from a strictly materialist worldview to a deeply experiential understanding of consciousness. They discuss out-of-body experiences, the role of intent in shaping reality, the Monroe Institute, reducing entropy through love and kindness, and how expanding awareness may be the key to our evolution both individually and collectively.

In Part 2 of the full telling of the Bledsoe story, Ryan revisits his father's encounter with the Lady and how it caught the attention of the Vatican and government agencies. He also shares details of a significant sighting of a light being that appeared over the pond outside the family home in 2019, and how these beings interact differently now than they did in the beginning.

For the first time on Bledsoe Said So, Ryan shares the complete, unbroken story of his family’s extraordinary encounters told in full, from his father’s first experience on the Cape Fear River in 2007 to just after the release of a Discovery Channel documentary that sensationalized and distorted their story. Stay tuned for Part 2. 

Ryan and Alex are joined by Ryan's eldest brother, Chris Jr., to dive into childhood memories, the weight of religious and social suppression, and the journey of breaking free. They explore the existential shock of encountering supernatural beings, the search for understanding God, and the practice of praying for orbs to appear. Along the way, Chris Jr. reflects on lessons from his father and even swap stories about the lighter side of life, like paintball.

Ryan and Alex explore the goddess through history, tracing her presence in reported apparitions over the last thousand years. They discuss her ties to Gnosticism, how she was transformed into the figure of the Mother Mary within Christian doctrine, and why her story was largely removed from the mainstream tradition. They also dive into her significance in the UFO phenomenon and examine her fundamental role in shaping the very fabric of reality.

Ryan and Alex welcome back Tom Barber, vocalist of Chelsea Grin and Darko, for his second appearance on Bledsoe Said So. In this conversation, Tom opens up about his personal orb sightings since his last time on the show, how they’ve reshaped his outlook on life, and the way others now seek him out to share their own experiences. They dive into the creative process of channeling both darkness and light into music, exploring the real-world impact lyrics can have on listeners. Tom also recalls moments of convincing skeptics, and even drawing crowds, to witness the phenomenon for themselves.

Ryan and Jennifer share their experience at the Psi Games 2025 in Charlottesville, VA, an immersive event led by Hakim Isler (featured on Bledsoe Said So episode 196). Designed to push the boundaries of human potential, the Psi Games put psychic abilities to the test with challenges in remote viewing, mind sight, psychokinesis, and more. Attendees also had the chance to learn directly from leading experts in parapsychology through lectures and hands-on workshops aimed at sharpening intuition and unlocking advanced psi skills. Both Ryan and Chris Sr. took part in the event, which culminated in a skywatch that left everyone in awe.Learn more about next year's event here: https://psigamesinternational.com/

Ryan and Alex sit down with world traveler, vlogger and author Dakota Wint, whose journeys have taken him deep into tribes and traditions across India, Papua New Guinea, Turkey, and beyond. Dakota shares what he’s learned from immersing himself in cultures often hidden from the outside world, offering insights into Eastern religions, ancient practices, and the wisdom of remote communities. They also dive into the role of psychedelics as gateways to spiritual realms and tools for understanding the unseen and having out-of-body experiences.Learn more about Dakota at https://www.dakotawint.com/.

In a bittersweet episode, Nick bids his farewell from Bledsoe Said So. The guys also look back on favorite memories, reflect on the journey so far, and share what’s to come for the podcast. To Nick, we're thankful for all you've brought to the show, and we wish you the very best on your next chapter.

This week, the guys dive into a movie review of Astral City: A Spiritual Journey, a Brazilian film based on the book Nosso Lar by medium Chico Xavier. They explore the film’s depiction of the afterlife, themes of reincarnation, karma, and spiritual evolution, and how it compares to their own experiences and studies of consciousness. Along the way, they reflect on the intersection of cinema, mysticism, and personal transformation.

This week, Ryan recounts recent skywatch experiences with 700–1,000 people at Contact in the Desert 2025, along with extraordinary sightings shared with Aaron Kitcher and his partner, Helen (Bledsoe Said So Episode 212). He also offers a vivid recap of his time at the Monroe Institute’s Guidelines program, a transformative five-day journey designed to help you turn inward, heighten your intuitive abilities, and connect with your inner guidance.

This week, the guys welcome metal producer and drummer Aaron Kitcher for a wide-ranging conversation on music, spiritual encounters, and the mysteries of the universe. From synchronicities and awakening experiences to remote viewing and orb sightings, Aaron shares his perspectives on consciousness and insights gained from his time at The Monroe Institute.

This week, the guys explore the idea of a primordial tradition, an ancient, esoteric current of knowledge, woven through mythologies across the world, with a focus on Native American traditions. They discuss the possibility that the Knights Templar may have reached the Americas long before Columbus, forming secret brotherhoods with Indigenous peoples and sharing in sacred knowledge. From Templar flags on Columbus’s ships to the mysterious symbolism of ancient mound sites, they trace the hidden codes, handshakes, and Atlantean echoes that suggest a deeper, forgotten history connecting the Old World and the New.

This week the guys explore the fascinating world of cymatics—the study of sound made visible—and its deep connections to ancient mysticism, consciousness, and the fabric of the universe. From the resonant clicks of dolphin communication to the sacred intonations of vowel sounds and the primordial OM, they uncover how sound has been used across cultures as a tool for creation and transformation and much more. 

This week the guys dive into a series of What If? questions submitted by Bledsoe Said So listeners, exploring everything from the idea that movies might be glimpses into alternate realities, to the emergence of AI as a consciousness, children with psychic abilities, and so much more.

This week the guys welcome Tony Mikalauskas, co-founder of Fresh Mouth Toothpaste, a monthly subscription brand bringing the latest nano-silver innovations to oral care. In this episode, they dive into the benefits of nano-silver toothpaste, the growing appeal of alternative wellness, and the controversial conversation around fluoride and dental care conspiracies.Learn more: https://www.freshmouthclub.com/

This week, the guys welcome legendary voice actor Kyle Hebert to the show. Best known for bringing to life iconic characters in Dragon Ball Z, Bleach, One Piece, Naruto, and more, Kyle reflects on his journey through the world of anime and how manifesting your dreams can shape your reality. The conversation spans everything from the craft of voice acting and the intelligent design of the universe to metal music and the paranormal.

This week, the guys sit down with acclaimed voice actress Mela Lee. Known for her work across anime, video games, and television, Mela opens up about her relationship with God and her spiritual journey—including powerful orb encounters, some of which she witnessed alongside the Bledsoes at Contact in the Desert. She reflects on how a traumatic childhood shaped her path and how a guiding light has followed her ever since, bringing connection, healing, and a deeper sense of purpose.

This week, the guys welcome author and filmmaker Dana Kippel for a fascinating conversation about all things metaphysical and plasma intelligence. Together, they explore Dana’s experience witnessing orbs alongside Ryan, and dive into topics like consciousness, the nature of God, and the connection between the spirit world and plasma. Learn more about Dana and her upcoming book A New Force: Plasma, Consciousness, and The New Human Potential on her website: www.danakippel.com