Bold By Choice Podcast

How Great Boards Build Great Schools Strong schools don't happen by chance—they're built through intentional leadership, disciplined governance, and a relentless focus on students. In this episode of Bold by Choice, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner welcome Mark Weinberg, governance expert and Senior Vice President at the National Charter Schools Institute, for a practical conversation about what separates high-performing charter school boards from those that simply manage compliance. Drawing from decades of experience as a school leader, authorizer, and board advisor, Mark shares why even passionate boards can drift into reactive, compliance-heavy habits—and how intentional meeting design, purposeful committee work, strong board development, and strategic leadership can transform governance culture. As Mark reminds us, every board member cares deeply about students, but effective governance requires more than good intentions—it requires preparation, clarity, and discipline. The conversation explores the distinction between governance and management, the importance of "managing up" as a school leader, why silence in the boardroom is often a warning sign, and how the strongest boards stay focused on mission, academic performance, and long-term stewardship rather than simply checking compliance boxes. The episode concludes with this week's Boardroom Moment, challenging every board to examine its agenda and ask a simple but powerful question: How much of our meeting is spent governing strategically versus simply receiving information? Because, as Vashaunta reminds us, the promise doesn't prove itself—someone has to decide. Bold by Choice is hosted by Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner and is powered by the National Charter Schools Institute. Throughout Season 5, the podcast explores the leadership disciplines, governance practices, and courageous decisions that help charter school boards move from oversight to stewardship—and from good intentions to lasting impact. Show Notes Why passionate boards can still become reactive Governance vs. management: understanding the difference Warning signs of ineffective board culture The importance of board orientation and continuous learning Designing meetings that strengthen governance Purpose-driven committees and strategic oversight Building strong partnerships between boards and school leaders Practical habits of high-performing charter school boards This week's Boardroom Moment: Evaluate your agenda through a strategic governance lens

As America celebrates its 250th birthday, Bold by Choice takes a step back to reflect on the ideas that shaped our nation—and how those same principles continue to shape public education today. Hosts Vashaunta Harris and Dr. Jim Goenner are joined by Don Cooper for a special Independence Day conversation exploring the Declaration of Independence, self-governance, human flourishing, and the enduring promise of educational freedom. Together, they examine how the charter school movement reflects America's founding belief that communities can come together to build something better for future generations. The discussion connects the nation's founding ideals with the work of educators, school leaders, and governing boards today. The hosts explore why a charter is more than a legal document—it's a public promise—and why preparing students for lives of purpose, freedom, and contribution remains at the heart of the movement. As the conversation concludes, each host shares a personal wish for America's next 250 years—from recommitting to shared values, to practicing courageous listening, to ensuring every student has the opportunity to discover their gifts and flourish. Whether you're celebrating Independence Day with family, leading a school community, or simply reflecting on the future of education, this special episode offers a thoughtful reminder that freedom comes with responsibility—and that every generation has the opportunity to renew the promise. Show Notes Why the Declaration of Independence still matters 250 years later Self-governance and the American experiment The connection between charter schools and educational freedom Human dignity, opportunity, and human flourishing Why a charter is a promise—not just a legal document The future of the charter school movement and the next generation of leaders Reflections and wishes for America's next 250 years Hosts: Vashaunta Harris & Dr. Jim Goenner Special Guest: Don Cooper Powered by the National Charter Schools Institute.

When does a governing board cross the line into managing a school? And why does that happen so often? In the second episode of our Season 5 governance series, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Dr. Jim Goenner, President & CEO of the National Charter Schools Institute, tackle one of the most common—and costly—tensions facing charter school boards: the difference between governing and managing. At the heart of the conversation is a simple but powerful idea: great boards don't run schools—they create the conditions for schools to thrive. Drawing from decades of experience serving, advising, and training governing boards, Jim explains why boards often drift into day-to-day operations during times of uncertainty, how role confusion erodes trust, and what healthy governance actually looks like. Together, he and Vashaunta explore practical strategies for keeping boards focused on mission, strategy, stewardship, and long-term success rather than operational details. The conversation also highlights the importance of board culture, credibility, proactive leadership, mission-centered meetings, and values that guide decision-making when challenges arise. Whether you're a new board member, an experienced trustee, or a school leader working closely with your board, this episode offers practical wisdom for building stronger governance and healthier organizations. Show Notes In This Episode Why boards drift into management The difference between governance and operations The board's role as steward of the school's promise Building trust through role clarity and accountability Governance as a discipline—not just a structure Creating productive, mission-focused board meetings The importance of board values and organizational credibility Practical habits that strengthen board culture This week's Boardroom Moment challenge for your next board meeting Key Takeaway Strong governance isn't about controlling every decision. It's about creating clarity, trust, accountability, and disciplined focus so school leaders can lead effectively and students can thrive. When boards stay focused on mission, strategy, and stewardship, everyone benefits. Powered by the National Charter Schools Institute.

Season 5 of Bold by Choice begins with a simple but profound truth: governance is ultimately about decision-making. Not the routine decisions reflected in motions, policies, and dashboards, but the difficult decisions that carry real consequences for students, families, communities, and public trust. In this opening episode, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Dr. Jim Goenner launch the season theme, Someone Has to Decide, by exploring the moral weight of board leadership and governance. Through stories, practical frameworks, and candid reflections, they examine what happens when schools face academic struggles, leadership challenges, financial pressures, or difficult renewal decisions—and why avoiding hard conversations can be just as consequential as making the wrong decision. The discussion centers on a familiar governance challenge: a school filled with caring educators, committed families, and passionate leaders that nevertheless continues to struggle academically. Jim and Vashaunta unpack the tension between compassion and accountability, loyalty and stewardship, and explain why strong boards must remain focused on their promises to students rather than their comfort with the status quo. Listeners will hear practical guidance on how boards can approach difficult decisions, including asking better questions, conducting deeper analysis, distinguishing between symptoms and root causes, evaluating leadership capacity, and remaining grounded in mission and values when emotions run high. The episode also explores why governance is fundamentally about stewardship of public trust and why courage often looks less like dramatic action and more like honest inquiry, thoughtful deliberation, and principled decision-making. At its core, this episode is a reminder that governance is not passive. It requires judgment, responsibility, wisdom, and the willingness to make difficult choices when the stakes are highest. Because the promise doesn't prove itself—someone has to decide. Show Notes Season Theme Someone Has to Decide In This Episode Why governance is about more than meetings, motions, and compliance The emotional realities behind difficult board decisions Stewardship versus loyalty Public trust and accountability in charter school governance Identifying root causes behind academic struggles Leadership capacity and organizational improvement Asking wise questions and listening with curiosity Evaluating leaders and setting clear expectations Governance courage and professional judgment The responsibility of boards to keep promises made to students and families Boardroom Moment Where might we be protecting comfort instead of confronting reality? And what difficult question needs more courage, honesty, or curiosity at our table right now? Key Takeaway Strong governance is not measured only by moments of success. It is measured by whether boards are willing to make difficult decisions with integrity, humility, courage, and an unwavering focus on student outcomes. Stewardship requires more than support—it requires the willingness to decide. Powered by the National Charter Schools Institute.

What does leadership development need to look like in a world where school leaders face constant change, increasing complexity, staffing challenges, shifting community expectations, and the ever-present responsibility of improving outcomes for students? In this special partnership spotlight episode of Bold by Choice, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Dr. Jim Goenner welcome Dr. Richard Seigler-Carter, educator, leadership coach, former school principal, and leader with the LeveragED Foundation, to explore a question many school systems are asking: Are we preparing leaders for the realities they face today? Richard shares his remarkable journey from professional dancer and arts educator to principal, network leader, and national leadership developer. Along the way, he reflects on lessons learned from leading through uncertainty, building strong teams, and discovering that leadership isn't about having all the answers—it's about creating the conditions for others to thrive. The conversation highlights LaunchPad, a year-long leadership development experience created by the LeveragED Foundation and now expanding through partnership with the National Charter Schools Institute. Unlike traditional professional development, LaunchPad combines coaching, simulated practice, school-based assessments, peer learning, and real-world leadership challenges to help leaders strengthen adaptive leadership skills, build confidence, and navigate complexity more effectively. Listeners will hear why today's leaders need more than technical expertise, how leadership development must evolve beyond compliance-based training, and why community, self-awareness, and continuous growth are essential for sustaining excellent schools. The discussion also explores leadership resilience, professional judgment, and the importance of helping leaders become not just administrators, but transformational leaders capable of building thriving school communities. At its heart, this episode is a reminder that great schools are built by healthy, capable leaders—and that leadership development should be transformational, not merely informational. Show Notes In This Episode Why school leadership has become increasingly complex The difference between managing and leading Adaptive leadership and decision-making under uncertainty Building leadership capacity through simulated practice The LaunchPad leadership development model School health assessments and personalized coaching Leadership resilience, community, and self-awareness Creating cultures where educators and students thrive The partnership between the National Charter Schools Institute and LeveragED Foundation Expanding leadership development opportunities across Michigan, Ohio, and beyond Key Takeaway The future of education depends on leaders who can navigate complexity, build trust, develop others, and adapt through change. Strong schools require strong leaders—and strong leaders need opportunities to grow, practice, reflect, and learn in community. Powered by the National Charter Schools Institute.

What does it take to change the trajectory of educational opportunity in a city? In this episode of Bold by Choice, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner sit down with Brandon Brown, CEO of The Mind Trust and recipient of the National Charter Schools Institute's Arc Changer Award, presented at the Bold By Choice Summit. Together, they explore what it means to pursue lasting systems change, build coalitions around a shared vision, and remain committed to expanding opportunity for students over the long term. Brandon shares his journey from Teach For America corps member in St. Louis to educational advocate and leader in Indianapolis. Along the way, he discovered that while great teaching can change lives, lasting impact often requires transforming the systems that shape students' opportunities. The conversation examines The Mind Trust's twenty-year commitment to educational innovation, talent development, school incubation, and policy leadership. Brandon reflects on the organization's unwavering North Star: ensuring that students' futures are not determined by their race, income, or ZIP code. Through stories of persistence, coalition building, and courageous leadership, he reveals what it takes to move from bold ideas to meaningful, sustainable change. Listeners will also hear about the challenges that accompany transformative work—from public resistance and political opposition to the personal costs of advocacy—and why trust, credibility, and long-term relationships remain essential ingredients for lasting progress. At its heart, this episode is about more than educational reform. It is about bold persistence—the willingness to stay committed long enough to help bend the arc of opportunity toward something better for future generations. Show Notes In This Episode Brandon's journey from classroom teacher to systems-level leader The founding vision and evolution of The Mind Trust Why educational change requires a long-term perspective Building coalitions around a shared North Star School innovation and talent development in Indianapolis The role of persistence in systems transformation Navigating resistance and public criticism Leadership lessons from difficult seasons Expanding educational opportunity through policy and partnership What gives hope for the future of education Key Takeaway Changing the arc of education requires more than bold ideas. It requires courage, endurance, trust, and a relentless commitment to creating opportunities that may take years to fully emerge. The Mind Trust's story demonstrates how sustained leadership and community partnership can expand what is possible for students, families, and entire cities. Powered by the National Charter Schools Institute.

What happens when students don't just learn about careers—they live them? In this episode of Bold by Choice, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner sit down with Nicole Gasper, CEO of West Michigan Aviation Academy, recipient of the National Charter Schools Institute's inaugural Pathways to Opportunity Award. Located on the grounds of the Gerald R. Ford International Airport, West Michigan Aviation Academy has reimagined what career-connected learning can look like. Students aren't simply studying aviation, engineering, robotics, or biomedical sciences—they're immersed in authentic experiences that connect learning to purpose, possibility, and future opportunity. Nicole shares her own unexpected journey to the academy, the vision that inspired founder Dick DeVos to create a public charter school centered on aviation and access, and how a culture of professionalism, belonging, and high expectations has become the school's defining characteristic. From earning pilot licenses and drone certifications to building aircraft, exploring biomedical sciences, and partnering with industry leaders, students experience learning in ways that make future careers feel real and attainable. The conversation also highlights inspiring alumni stories—from commercial airline pilots to university researchers—and explores how purpose-driven learning helps students discover who they can become. At its core, this episode is about more than aviation. It's about helping young people see possibilities for their future and creating pathways that turn dreams into destinations. Show Notes In This Episode The founding vision behind West Michigan Aviation Academy Why career-connected learning changes student outcomes Learning on an active airport campus Aviation, engineering, robotics, and biomedical science pathways Student pilot training and FAA certifications Industry partnerships that make learning real Alumni success stories and workforce connections Building a culture of professionalism, purpose, and belonging Why pathways are ultimately about possibility Key Takeaway When students can connect learning to purpose, opportunity, and identity, they don't just prepare for the future—they begin building it today. West Michigan Aviation Academy demonstrates how powerful education can be when young people are trusted with real responsibility, meaningful experiences, and a vision for what is possible. Powered by the National Charter Schools Institute.

What does it mean to lead with both accountability and trust? In this episode of Bold by Choice, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner sit down with Terry Croy Lewis, Executive Director of the Colorado Charter School Institute (CSI) and recipient of the 2026 Stewards of Possibility Award. Terry’s journey began as a charter school mom in the 1990s — a parent searching for a school where her child could truly thrive. What followed became a decades-long commitment to creating opportunities for students, families, and communities through courageous leadership, innovative school design, and deep relationships. Together, the conversation explores how CSI has redefined authorizing — not as compliance alone, but as a balance of accountability, support, trust, and possibility. Terry shares stories about launching schools that challenged assumptions, including schools serving students on the autism spectrum, outdoor learning models in the Colorado mountains, and charter schools on tribal land. The episode also dives into leadership development, why listening matters more than ever, and how curiosity and humility help organizations continue evolving to meet the needs of students. Because stewardship isn’t about protecting systems. It’s about protecting possibility. Show Notes In This Episode: The origins of CSI and Terry’s charter school journey Why parental voice matters in public education Accountability and support in authorizing Building trust with school leaders and communities Innovation in charter school models Outdoor schools, tribal schools, and neurodiverse learning communities Leadership development and organizational culture Why curiosity is essential for the future of education The meaning behind the Stewards of Possibility Award Key Takeaway: Fear may produce compliance — but trust produces improvement. Great leadership creates the conditions where innovation, relationships, and student success can thrive together.

What does it take to build an education movement that actually lasts? In this episode of Bold by Choice, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner sit down with Terry Ryan of Bluum, recipient of the 2026 Bold by Choice Catalyst Award, to explore how leadership, talent, and shared values can transform educational opportunity across an entire state. From teaching in post-Communist Poland to helping launch one of the nation’s most influential charter school ecosystems in Idaho, Terry shares the unexpected journey that shaped his belief in innovation, community, and courageous leadership. The conversation dives into Bluum’s bold vision to create 20,000 new school seats in 10 years, the launch of the Idaho New School Fellowship, the power of investing in people first, and why rural communities deserve innovative learning models designed around their unique needs. Together, they explore the difference between leadership and management, why movements matter more than sectors, and how catalysts create momentum by bringing people together around possibility. Because real change doesn’t happen by accident. Somebody has to choose to build it. Show Notes In This Episode: The story behind Bluum and Idaho’s charter school growth Why talent and leadership matter more than perfect plans Building rural and remote learning models The Idaho New School Fellowship Leadership vs. management Why movements begin with vision How charter schools create space for innovation The role of values in long-term educational change What it means to be a “Catalyst” in education Key Takeaway: Catalysts don’t just spark ideas — they create momentum, build partnerships, and help communities imagine what’s possible for students.

What does it really mean to be Bold by Choice? In this special episode, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner reflect on the heart behind the Bold by Choice movement following the inaugural Bold by Choice Summit. Together, they unpack the ideas, values, and leadership commitments shaping the future of education — and why courage, responsibility, and possibility matter now more than ever. This conversation explores why boldness is not about being loud or disruptive, but about choosing action, building intentionally, and believing deeply in students even when the path forward is uncertain. From the future of learning and school design to the emotional power of movements, relationships, and community, Jim and Vashaunta reflect on the deeper purpose behind the summit, the podcast, and the work educators are being called to do in this moment. The episode also introduces the meaning behind the Bold by Choice Awards — including Stewards of Possibility, Pathways of Opportunity, Catalyst, Arc Changer, and Lantern — and why these honors were intentionally designed around values rather than status or achievement. Because great schools don’t happen by chance. Movements happen when people choose to build. Show Notes In This Episode: What “Bold by Choice” actually means Why education requires courage and movement thinking The future of learning, AI, personalization, and student belonging Why movements are emotional — not just strategic Reflections from the inaugural Bold by Choice Summit The purpose behind the Bold by Choice Awards Why schools must focus on possibility, not sameness The importance of relationships, connection, and student dignity Featured Award Themes: Stewards of Possibility Pathways of Opportunity Catalyst Arc Changer Lantern Key Takeaway: Bold by Choice isn’t about being fearless. It’s about choosing to move forward with courage anyway — because students deserve leaders willing to build something better.

Technology is everywhere in education, but is it actually transforming learning? In this episode of Bold by Choice, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner, joined by guest host Don Cooper, explore the difference between using technology to make school more efficient… and using it to make learning more personal. They’re joined by Dr. Garland Thomas-McDavid, CEO of Brooklyn LAB Charter School, whose leadership is grounded in lived experience, resilience, and an unwavering belief in what students can achieve. At Brooklyn LAB, technology isn’t about replacing teachers—it’s about expanding what’s possible for students. From STEM pathways and Project Lead The Way to adaptive learning tools and real-world problem solving, this conversation highlights how intentional design—not just devices—can unlock student potential. And just as importantly, it reminds us that relationships, culture, and purpose must remain at the center. Show Notes In This Episode: Technology as an enabler—not a replacement—for teaching and learning The difference between efficiency vs. personalization in ed tech How Brooklyn LAB uses STEM pathways and Project Lead The Way Real-world, hands-on learning through engineering and biomedical programs Balancing screen time, focus, and student engagement The importance of adult courage in adopting new tools and practices Why relationships remain the foundation of powerful learning environments Key Takeaway: Technology doesn’t transform schools on its own—intentional design does. When used thoughtfully, it can personalize learning, expand opportunity, and empower students without losing the human connection that matters most.

What if adolescence wasn’t just about preparing for the future—but contributing to the present? In this episode of Bold by Choice, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner, joined by guest host Don Cooper, explore what happens when schools trust young people with real responsibility. They’re joined by Dan Porter, an experienced educator and leader at Kwiyagat Community Academy, alongside student Naomi Cowboy. Rooted in partnership with the local Ute community, Kwiyagat was created to address a critical need: a school where Indigenous students are seen, supported, and connected to their culture. Through language, storytelling, and community-based learning, students are not only building academic skills—they’re developing identity, confidence, and voice. From capstone projects tackling real community issues to students learning directly from elders, this episode highlights a powerful shift: when students are treated as contributors, not just learners, education becomes deeply meaningful. Show Notes Guests: Dan Porter, Leader, Kwiyagat Community Academy Naomi Cowboy, Student, Kwiyagat Community Academy Hosts: Vashaunta Harris Jim Goenner Guest Host: Don Cooper In This Episode: Rethinking adolescence: from compliance to contribution The founding of Kwiyagat Community Academy and its community roots Revitalizing Ute language and culture through education Student capstone projects and real-world problem solving The role of elders, storytelling, and identity in learning Measuring success beyond academics: belonging, voice, and resilience Key Takeaway: When students are grounded in culture, trusted with responsibility, and given a voice, they don’t just prepare for the future—they help shape it.

What if teachers didn’t just work in schools—but helped lead them? In this episode of Bold by Choice, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner, joined by guest host Don Cooper, sit down with Amy Junge (Education Evolving) and Dr. Julie Cook (Teacher Powered Schools Network) to explore a growing movement redefining the teaching profession. Across more than 300 schools nationwide, teacher-powered models are shifting decision-making from top-down systems to collaborative teams of educators. From hiring and budgeting to curriculum and culture, teachers are not just implementing decisions—they’re making them. Julie brings this model to life through her experience at Souderton Charter School Collaborative, where co-teaching, shared leadership, and collective responsibility create a dynamic, student-centered environment. The result? Stronger teacher retention, deeper professional ownership, and learning experiences that better meet students’ needs. This episode challenges a core assumption in education—and offers a powerful alternative: when teachers are trusted as professionals, schools—and students—thrive. Show Notes Guests: Amy Junge, Senior Director, Teacher Powered Schools (Education Evolving) Dr. Julie Cook, Teacher Leader, Souderton Charter School Collaborative In This Episode: What “teacher-powered” schools really are How shared leadership changes school culture The shift from compliance to professional ownership Co-teaching, collaboration, and distributed decision-making Why teacher retention improves in this model What this means for the future of school design Key Takeaway: When teachers have the authority to lead—not just implement—schools become more responsive, collaborative, and effective for students.

In this episode of Bold by Choice, hosts Jim Goenner, Ph.D., Vashaunta Harris, and Don Cooper from the National Charter Schools Institute explore what it means to design a school around community, purpose, and the whole child. Joined by Alastair Pullen, Executive Director of Atlanta Neighborhood Charter School, the conversation brings educational pluralism to life—showing how public education can reflect the unique values and needs of the communities it serves. What began as a parent-driven vision in Grant Park has grown into a thriving, community-rooted school where learning extends far beyond the classroom. At ANCS, students engage in constructivist, experiential learning—from cultivating food on a school farm to designing real-world projects tied to their interests. The result? Students who don’t just attend school—they want to be there. As one student put it: “I get to go to school.” Through this conversation, the Institute team highlights a powerful idea: when schools are intentionally designed around relationships, collaboration, and student identity, motivation isn’t forced—it emerges. Episode Highlights Educational pluralism and why public education shouldn’t look the same everywhere The origin story of a parent-founded, community-driven school How constructivist and experiential learning shapes student engagement Why culture is built through relationships, morning meetings, and advisory systems The impact of collaborative teaching teams and high retention What it means when students say, “I get to go to school”

Season 4 continues with Episode 4: “Personalized, Not Programmed”, a conversation about what happens when schools stop acknowledging student differences and start designing around them. Hosts Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner, joined by guest host Don Cooper, ground the episode in Ted Kolderie’s argument that student motivation rises when personalization becomes structural, not aspirational. From there, we travel to Learning Community Charter School (Jersey City, NJ) with Dr. Colin Hogan, Pavit Thakkar (8th grade), and Mrs. Thakkar (parent). Hear the “before/after” moment: a bold acceleration decision—supported by a trial period, mentoring, and family partnership—designed to increase challenge without sacrificing belonging. In the reflective synthesis, Don connects the story back to the charter idea: autonomy used not for novelty, but to build civic infrastructure—schools that create the conditions where excellence and human flourishing can thrive. Powered by the National Charter Schools Institute | Sponsored by The Founders Library.  Show notes Featured school: Learning Community Charter School (Jersey City, NJ)—a diverse, community-rooted model approaching its 30th anniversary (2027).  Guests: Dr. Colin Hogan (Head of School), Pavit Thakkar (8th grade student), Mrs. Thakkar (parent partner). Season frame: Season 4 asks what the charter idea still makes possible—pluralism, innovation, democratic purpose, and intentional design tradeoffs. Reading anchor: Kolderie, Split Screen — “Above All, Try Personalized Learning to Maximize Student Motivation.”  Classroom story hook: Pavit’s acceleration experience (4th → 6th) reveals personalization as a careful, supported system—not a one-off decision. Design tradeoff explored: increasing academic challenge while protecting social belonging (trial period, peer mentor pairing, counselor supports, and ongoing feedback loops). Personalization structures: learning lab supports, flexible acceleration, teacher collaboration, and mechanisms that respond to students in real time—so motivation can emerge rather than be manufactured. Reflective synthesis: Don and Jim zoom out to the civic purpose of autonomy—structure matters, design matters, freedom matters—when schools are built around learners instead of forcing learners to conform.

Guest: Michelle Trojan, Principal, Intrinsic Schools (Chicago, IL) Hosts: Vashaunta Harris & Jim Goenner Guest Host: Don Cooper Powered by the National Charter Schools Institute | Sponsored by The Founders Library What does innovation in education really mean? In Episode 3, the conversation challenges a common assumption: innovation isn’t always about inventing something entirely new — it’s often about trying, improving, and adapting what works. Vashaunta Harris, Jim Goenner, and guest host Don Cooper explore key ideas from this week’s readings, including the tension between uniformity and pluralism and the role of innovation happening closest to students — in classrooms, not policy. Then, they turn to practice. Joined by Michelle Trojan of Intrinsic Schools in Chicago, the episode highlights a school where innovation is not a program — it’s a mindset. From its Montessori-inspired design to its team-teaching “pod” model and flexible use of time, Intrinsic continuously evolves to meet student needs. Students take ownership of their learning through structures like C Day, where they choose academic support, enrichment, and leadership opportunities based on real-time data and personal goals. The school also expands what success looks like — connecting students to careers, trades, college pathways, and real-world experiences. Michelle’s story brings it full circle: leading a school in the same neighborhood where her own family once struggled to find the right educational fit — now creating access and opportunity for the next generation. As Don reflects, Intrinsic embodies a core truth: innovation happens closest to the problem — and closest to students. Show Notes • Theme: Innovation as Iteration — Trying, Improving, Adapting • Readings: Kolderie: Innovation is Schools and Teachers Trying New Things Berner: Uniformity vs. Pluralism • Guest host: Don Cooper • Featured school: Intrinsic Schools (Chicago, IL) Key Model Elements: • Team-teaching “pod” structure (gen ed + special ed collaboration) • Montessori-inspired design adapted for secondary students • Flexible learning spaces and real-time data use • Weekly “C Day” for student choice, support, and enrichment Student Experience: • Ownership of learning through goal-setting and choice • Exposure to careers, trades, and postsecondary pathways • Networking nights, career shadowing, and partnerships • $1.5M annual scholarship support + alumni coaching Big Ideas: • Innovation is continuous improvement, not one-time change • Pluralism allows schools to reflect different student needs and communities • Structure — not just choice — shapes what’s possible in education • Schools should prepare students to be confident, capable contributors to society #BoldByChoice

Guest: Belicia Reaves, Executive Director, Two Rivers Public Charter School (Washington, D.C.) Hosts: Vashaunta Harris & Jim Goenner Guest Host: Don Cooper Powered by the National Charter Schools Institute | Sponsored by The Founders Library In Episode 2, we move from theory to practice — exploring how the democratic purpose of education comes to life inside real schools. Vashaunta Harris, Jim Goenner, and guest host Don Cooper are joined by Belicia Reaves of Two Rivers Public Charter School, a community-rooted school designed around inquiry, diversity, and shared responsibility. From preschoolers designing and building a bench for their school garden to middle school students leading service projects across their city, this conversation highlights how students learn democracy by practicing it — through real problems, real decisions, and real relationships. Belicia shares how Two Rivers was founded to meet a deeper civic need: developing not just academic skills, but compassionate, responsible citizens. Through project-based learning, student-led conferences, and a strong culture of “crew, not passengers,” the school intentionally builds both individual agency and collective responsibility. Together, the hosts reflect on a central tension in public education: how to balance family choice with shared norms, and how schools can serve as true civic infrastructure — preparing students not just for careers, but for participation in community and democracy. As Belicia reminds us, when schools are designed with purpose, students don’t just learn about the world — they learn how to shape it. Show Notes • Theme: The Democratic Purposes of Public Education • Reading: Rediscovering the Democratic Purposes of Education (Moe, Ch. 6) • Guest host: Don Cooper • Featured school: Two Rivers PCS (Washington, D.C.) Host Framing Questions: • What is most misunderstood about democracy’s role in education today? • Are schools designed as democratic institutions—or delivery systems? • What did chartering originally make possible around voice, pluralism, and participation? • What tensions do schools avoid: choice vs. coherence, diversity vs. consistency? • What would change if we truly designed schools for democratic purpose? In Practice at Two Rivers: • Inquiry-based, project-based learning • Diverse, community-rooted design • “Crew, not passengers” culture • Students solving real problems (garden bench project) • Middle school service learning grounded in civic engagement • Student-led conferences and standards-based grading Big Ideas: • Democracy is learned through participation, not abstraction • Schools can serve as civic infrastructure • Balancing family choice with shared community values • Preparing students to be active participants in society #BoldByChoice

Featuring: Brett Peterson, Director at High Tech High Mesa (San Diego, CA) Student Guest: Isabella Coralez, Junior at High Tech High Hosts: Vashaunta Harris & Jim Goenner Guest Host: Don Cooper Powered by the National Charter Schools Institute | Sponsored by The Founders Library Season 4 of Bold by Choice begins with a new lens. Rather than focusing only on individual schools, this season explores the ideas behind the charter movement — the thinking that makes new and different kinds of public schools possible. The charter idea was never meant to create a separate sector of education. It was intended to introduce pluralism, innovation, and new possibilities within public education, allowing educators and communities to design schools around how students actually learn. In this opening episode, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner are joined by guest host Don Cooper to frame the season’s central question: What does the charter idea make possible today? Drawing on foundational readings including Reinventing America’s Schools and other core texts shaping the season, the hosts explore how chartering emerged as a movement to rethink the structure and purpose of public education. To bring those ideas to life, the conversation turns to High Tech High in San Diego, one of the country’s most influential project-based public charter schools. Director Brett Peterson reflects on the founding purpose of High Tech High — responding to concerns that students were graduating without the skills, confidence, and real-world experience needed for the modern world. High Tech High responded with bold design choices: integrated courses, project-based learning, exhibitions of student work, and strong relationships between teachers and students. Junior Isabella Coralez shares the student perspective, describing how internships, projects, and integrated coursework connect learning to the real world and help students see themselves as creators, problem-solvers, and contributors. Together, the hosts and guests explore the tradeoffs behind intentional school design — including High Tech High’s choice to prioritize project-based learning and authentic demonstrations of learning rather than traditional structures like AP course tracks. The episode closes with a reflective conversation about what High Tech High reveals about the charter idea itself: that the true promise of chartering lies in creating space for educators to design schools differently while remaining accountable to students, families, and communities. Season 4 invites listeners to think deeply about the future of public education — not by searching for a single model to replicate, but by exploring the ideas that make meaningful innovation possible. Show Notes • Season Theme: The Charter Idea Today — What’s Possible • Chartering as a movement for educational pluralism, not simply a sector of schools • Core reading: Reinventing America’s Schools by David Osborne • Guest host: Don Cooper • Featured school: High Tech High — San Diego, California • Key design elements: Project-based learning Integrated coursework Small schools and teaching teams No academic tracking Student exhibitions and real-world projects • Student voice: learning connected to community, internships, and authentic problem-solving • Tradeoffs in school design and why intentional choices matter • Season 4 explores pluralism, innovation, student agency, and the evolving charter idea #BoldByChoice

Guest: Christie Huck, CEO, City Garden Montessori School (St. Louis, MO) Hosts: Vashaunta Harris & Jim Goenner Powered by the National Charter Schools Institute In this episode of Bold by Choice, we travel to St. Louis to spotlight City Garden Montessori School — a public charter school built on the belief that Montessori education should be accessible to every child. CEO Christie Huck shares the story of how City Garden began — not as an education reform initiative, but as a group of parents asking a powerful question: What kind of school do our children and our city truly deserve? What began with living-room conversations and a tiny preschool eventually grew into a public charter school serving more than 600 students across early childhood, elementary, and adolescent programs. Grounded in the Montessori philosophy, City Garden creates prepared environments where students build independence, responsibility, and a deep love of learning. In classrooms filled with hands-on materials, collaboration, and student ownership, children learn not just academics — but how to care for their community and for one another. City Garden reminds us that when schools trust children’s curiosity and design learning environments around their humanity, extraordinary things can happen. Stay Bold by Choice. Show Notes • Season 3 Partner: Diverse Charter Schools Coalition • City Garden Montessori School — St. Louis, Missouri • Montessori philosophy: autonomy, independence, and individualized learning • Prepared environments designed for beauty, order, and student ownership • Public charter model expanding Montessori access to diverse families • Grew from 53 students in 2008 to more than 600 students today • Teachers undergo rigorous Montessori certification and training • Students stay in multi-year classroom communities, strengthening relationships • Student lesson of the year: children show profound compassion and care for one another in times of hardship #SchoolBrag

Guest: Rachelle Martinez, Operational Leader, Odyssey Charter Schools (Altadena, CA) Host: Vashaunta Harris Powered by the National Charter Schools Institute In this episode of Bold by Choice, we head to Altadena, California, to spotlight Odyssey Charter Schools — a community built around active learning, strong relationships, and a workshop model designed for how students actually learn. This season, in partnership with the Diverse Charter Schools Coalition, we’re highlighting intentionally designed public schools across the country. Odyssey lives deeply into that promise — centering student voice, social-emotional well-being, and academic rigor in equal measure. Operational leader Rachelle Martinez shares how behind-the-scenes leadership shapes students’ daily experience — from navigating renewal years ago to leading through COVID and the devastating Eaton fire. Through it all, Odyssey remained focused on what mattered most: creating safe, responsive spaces where students feel known and supported. We explore the school’s workshop model, restorative practices like the Peace Path, and beloved traditions like Stone Soup Day — all grounded in community, collaboration, and resilience. Odyssey reminds us that great schools aren’t accidental. They are built — and rebuilt — on purpose. Stay Bold by Choice. Show Notes • Season 3 Partner: Diverse Charter Schools Coalition • Odyssey was founded in 1999 to challenge one-size-fits-all instruction • Workshop model: mini-lessons + collaborative learning + “organized chaos” • Responsive Classroom & restorative practices embedded from TK • Peace Path conflict resolution system across campus • Stone Soup Day community tradition rooted in collective responsibility • Led through COVID and the Eaton fire with a focus on safety and belonging • Operational leadership as a driver of student experience • Student lesson of the year: resilience, flexibility, and hope #SchoolBrag

Guest: Tresha Ward, CEO, Prospect Schools (Brooklyn, NY) Hosts: Vashaunta Harris & Jim Goenner Powered by the National Charter Schools Institute In this episode of the Bold by Choice Podcast, we travel to Brooklyn to spotlight Prospect Schools — one of New York City’s first intentionally integrated charter school networks, grounded in the International Baccalaureate framework and designed around inquiry, identity, and belonging. This season, in partnership with the Diverse Charter Schools Coalition, we’re highlighting schools that are intentionally diverse by design — and Prospect lives that commitment every day. CEO Tresha Ward shares how her journey as the daughter of West Indian immigrants and a first-generation college student shaped her leadership and her commitment to ensuring students are not just college-ready, but life-ready. From shadowing students each year to building systems where every child is known by at least one adult, Tresha unpacks how intentional diversity and inquiry-driven learning prepare students to thrive in complex, global spaces. Prospect reminds us that excellence and belonging aren’t opposites — they’re partners. Stay Bold by Choice. Show Notes • Season 3 Partner: Diverse Charter Schools Coalition • Prospect Schools is one of NYC’s first intentionally integrated charter networks • Grounded in the International Baccalaureate (IB) framework • Students engage in interdisciplinary, inquiry-based learning • CEO shadows students annually to lead through a student lens • Strong adult culture with 80%+ staff retention • Expanding focus on life-ready skills: digital literacy, financial literacy, college persistence & career preparation • Alumni partnerships supporting students beyond high school graduation #SchoolBrag      

Guest: Gayle Nadler, Executive Director & Co-Founder, Multicultural Learning Center (Los Angeles, CA) Host: Vashaunta Harris Powered by: National Charter Schools Institute What happens when language, culture, and belonging are treated as strengths — not barriers? In this powerful episode of Bold by Choice, host Vashaunta Harris travels to Los Angeles to sit down with Gayle Nadler, co-founder and executive director of Multicultural Learning Center (MLC), a TK–8 public charter school that has been living out the promise of bilingual, inclusive education for more than 20 years. Gayle shares the deeply personal story that shaped MLC’s design — from her fourth-grade experience being bused across Los Angeles into a bilingual classroom where she longed to belong, to the living-room conversations with her mother that led them to open a dual-language charter school during California’s ban on bilingual education (Proposition 227). Just days after opening, the school faced the national trauma of 9/11 — a moment that cemented MLC’s mission to prepare students to navigate a complex, interconnected world with empathy, confidence, and voice. Listeners will hear how MLC’s two-way bilingual immersion model treats every student as a language learner, why cultural identity is central to academic success, and how classrooms are intentionally designed for joy, movement, collaboration, and inclusion. Gayle also reflects on alumni stories that reveal the long-term impact of the school — graduates who advocate across cultures, challenge injustice, and carry confidence into college, careers, and community life. The conversation closes with reflections on leadership, balance, listening to students, and what it truly means to be bold in education. Episode Highlights: A fourth-grade experience that inspired a lifelong commitment to belonging Founding a bilingual charter school during California’s ban on bilingual education Designing classrooms where language, culture, and identity are assets Alumni stories that reveal the long-term impact of dual-language learning A scholarship fund rooted in legacy, community, and giving back Leadership lessons on balance, accountability, and leading with heart If you believe schools should reflect the world students live in — and help them thrive within it — this episode is for you. Share this episode with someone who believes in bilingual education, inclusive design, and public schools built on love and purpose. And don’t forget to share your own #SchoolBrag story with us. Until next time — stay Bold by Choice.

Guests: Mike Chalupa & LaShawn Bowser Hosts: Vashaunta Harris & Jim Goenner What does it look like when a public school is designed around a single, powerful question: What would it take for every student to be known, loved, and inspired academically? In this episode of Bold by Choice, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner head to Baltimore to spotlight City Neighbors—a family of public charter schools that has spent nearly two decades proving what’s possible when creativity, authentic relationships, and student agency sit at the center of learning. City Neighbors began not in a boardroom, but in a living room—where 17 families gathered around a quilt-covered table, dreaming up the best school they could imagine for their children. From that vision grew one of Maryland’s earliest charter schools, now expanded into three campuses serving nearly 900 students across two K–8 schools and a high school. The through-line has never changed: small communities, deep relationships, and learning that matters. Mike Chalupa, Executive Director and founding leader, shares how his own middle-school experience—watching the clock tick toward dismissal—shaped his commitment to building schools where students don’t want learning to end. LaShawn Bowser, school leader at City Neighbors Hamilton, reflects on her journey from youth counseling to education and the moment she realized that how students experience their school day shapes everything else in their lives. Together, they unpack what makes City Neighbors distinct: Public project-based learning grounded in real questions and real work Reggio Emilia–inspired design, treating students as capable, creative, and worthy of deep respect Arts integration as a core academic strategy Intentional physical spaces that signal calm, dignity, and collaboration Teacher autonomy and professionalism, where educators design learning with students, not just for them Listeners hear powerful stories—from a student who learned she no longer had to change herself to fit school, to graduates who name the adults who loved them when it wasn’t easy, to projects that helped students see themselves as problem-solvers and creators in the world. The conversation also pulls back the curtain on leadership: the hard days, the failures that become learning moments, and the long-game mindset required to do human-centered work well. As Mike and LaShawn remind us, this is journey work—and transformation doesn’t happen on a timetable. This episode is a reminder that: Joy, beauty, and belonging are academic strategies Failure is an event, not an identity Great schools are built by communities brave enough to ask different questions If you believe public schools can be places where students are fully themselves—brilliant, curious, messy, creative, and whole—this is a #SchoolBrag you won’t want to miss. Listen in and be inspired by City Neighbors—where students are truly known, deeply loved, and academically inspired.  

Guest: Dr. Matthew Tyson, CEO, Tapestry Public Charter School Hosts: Vashaunta Harris & Jim Goenner Powered by: National Charter Schools Institute What if schools were designed around real children—their strengths, their differences, their pace, and their potential? In this episode of Bold by Choice, we travel to Georgia to spotlight Tapestry Public Charter School, a middle and high school where neurodiversity isn’t just accepted—it’s celebrated. Founded by parents seeking something better for their children, Tapestry was built as a fully inclusive learning environment where neurotypical and neurodivergent students learn side by side, supported by co-teachers, small class sizes, individualized learning plans, and a deep culture of belonging. Hosts Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner sit down with Dr. Matthew Tyson, Tapestry’s CEO, whose journey—from special education teacher to charter leader—has been shaped by a lifelong belief that a child’s zip code or learning style should never define their future. Growing up in a neurodiverse family and moving frequently across states, Dr. Tyson saw firsthand how uneven educational systems can be—and why schools must evolve. Throughout the conversation, Dr. Tyson shares powerful stories that bring Tapestry’s model to life, including: A former student once written off academically who went on to master college-level math Why “every classroom is a special education classroom—in the best way possible” How co-teaching, double planning periods, and student ownership fuel teacher retention and joy What it took to advocate at the Georgia State Capitol—and win bipartisan support—to expand charter access after years of district denials Why inclusion isn’t a program, but a belief system that shapes every decision With a 100% graduation rate, a long waiting list, and a second campus opening in Clayton County, Tapestry shows what’s possible when schools center dignity, flexibility, and high expectations for every learner. As Dr. Tyson reminds us, “It’s never the kids—it’s on us.” And when educators design with love, courage, and persistence, students don’t just succeed—they belong. This is a true #SchoolBrag episode—one that challenges assumptions, honors student voice, and reimagines what inclusive public education can be. Listen in and share with anyone who believes schools should work for all kids—not just some. Learn More Tapestry Public Charter School: https://www.tapestrycharter.org Diverse Charter Schools Coalition: Schools like Tapestry are proud members of DCSC

Bold by Choice, powered by the National Charter Schools Institute, is hosted by Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner. In this episode, they travel to Utah to spotlight a school that proves what’s possible when STEM education, diversity, and belonging come together with purpose. Our guest is Halis Kablan, Secondary Principal at Beehive Science and Technology Academy—a school that began nearly 20 years ago with just 150 students in the basement of an office building and has grown into a thriving K–12 STEM community serving nearly 880 students. Beehive was founded on a bold belief: science and technology education is for everyone—especially immigrant, multilingual, and underrepresented students. Today, the school serves families from 48 countries, speaking 60+ languages, making it one of the most diverse school communities in Utah. In this conversation, Halis shares his personal journey—from studying biology in Turkey and discovering teaching by chance, to dedicating 18 years to Beehive’s mission of equity through STEM. He reflects on what keeps educators committed for decades, why students want to come to school, and how hands-on learning unlocks joy, confidence, and passion. You’ll hear powerful stories from inside Beehive’s classrooms, including: Students designing, testing, and launching hot air balloons and rockets Robotics teams competing at state, national, and international levels Alumni returning to mentor current students Teachers integrating STEM across every subject—from kindergarten through high school A culture where being “into STEM,” robotics, or D&D is celebrated, not sidelined Beehive’s results speak for themselves: the school has been named a U.S. News & World Report Best High School multiple years in a row and ranked #1 in Utah for five consecutive years—all while staying rooted in community, collaboration, and love for students. As Halis reminds us, the real measure of success isn’t just rankings—it’s when students come home excited to talk about their day, when shy learners find their voice, and when passion turns into purpose. If you believe excellence doesn’t require perfect conditions—only clarity of mission—this episode is for you. Share this conversation with an educator, leader, or parent who believes in STEM for all, culturally responsive education, and schools built on belonging. And don’t forget to share your own #SchoolBrag story—we want to hear how your school is building possibility for students. Stay bold. Stay curious. Stay in the community.

Guest: Steven Palmer, Leader, Valor Collegiate Academies (Nashville, TN) Hosts: Vashaunta Harris & Jim Goenner Powered by: National Charter Schools Institute What happens when a school refuses to choose between academic rigor and student well-being? In this episode of Bold by Choice, we travel to Nashville, Tennessee, to spotlight Valor Collegiate Academies—a nationally recognized, high-performing charter network designed around one bold belief: students thrive when their minds, bodies, and spirits are developed together. Steven Palmer, a Teach For America alum and longtime Valor leader, shares how Valor was intentionally designed to address three urgent challenges facing students today: the academic opportunity gap, the student mental-health crisis, and growing polarization in our communities. Rather than treating these as competing priorities, Valor built a student-centered, whole-child model that integrates rigorous academics with deep social-emotional learning, strong relationships, and student voice . What You’ll Hear in This Episode How Valor empowers students through student-led “Changemakers” coalitions that elevate student voice and agency Why, daily feedback loops, coaching for every adult, and real-time support outperform waiting for year-end test scores How the Compass Model (mind, body, spirit) shows up in classrooms, circles, and culture every single day A powerful student story that illustrates what happens when educators refuse to blame children and instead ask, “What do they need right now?” Why families rate Valor so highly—and what a 9.08/10 family recommendation score says about trust, belonging, and joy Steven also reflects on one of the simplest—and hardest—truths in education, passed down from a veteran teacher early in his career: “Love the kids. You’ll figure the rest out.” Why This Episode Matters This conversation reminds us that great schools are not built on compliance or shortcuts. They’re built through intentional design, relentless care, and teams that refuse to give up on students—even when the work is hard. As Steven puts it, when schools are at their best, they become places where students can say: “I think I’m starting to love this school again.” That’s not accidental. That’s leadership. That’s design. That’s Bold by Choice. Join the Conversation If this episode inspired you, share it with an educator or family member who believes schools can be places of joy, rigor, and belonging. And tell us your own #SchoolBrag—we want to hear about schools doing right by kids.

Guest: Dr. Sundai Riggins, Head of School — Inspired Teaching Demonstration School (Washington, D.C.) Hosts: Vashaunta Harris & Jim Goenner Powered by the National Charter Schools Institute What happens when students aren’t just served by a school, but help design it? In this episode of Bold by Choice, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner sit down with Dr. Sundai Riggins, Head of School at Inspired Teaching Demonstration School in Washington, D.C., for a powerful conversation about student voice, belonging, joy, and whole-child design. Dr. Riggins shares her journey as a career educator and the beliefs that shape Inspired Teaching’s model—where students are treated as co-designers, learning is inquiry-based, and joy is viewed as an act of resistance. From student-led theatrical productions and intersession experiences to small learning environments, two adults per classroom, and open feedback loops, this episode brings listeners inside a school community intentionally built with students, not just for them. You’ll hear: How Inspired Teaching empowers students with agency, responsibility, and confidence, including backstage student leadership in school productions Why children’s individuality and energy are assets, not obstacles How academics and whole-child learning are balanced through inquiry, feedback, and flexible design Why mentorship, open practice, and community engagement are central to the school’s mission How love, relationships, and belonging serve as the school’s true “secret sauce.” Dr. Riggins reminds us that students won’t be students forever—they’re future citizens. Schools, at their best, prepare young people not just to succeed academically, but to know their voices matter, to advocate for themselves, and to carry confidence beyond school walls S3 E3 This is a conversation about designing schools that honor humanity, cultivate joy, and expand what’s possible when we trust students with real responsibility. If this episode inspired you, share it with an educator or parent who believes schools should be built around curiosity, community, and care—and tell us your own #SchoolBrag story. Stay bold. Stay mission-driven. Stay in the community.

Bold by Choice, powered by the National Charter Schools Institute, is hosted by Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner, and in this episode, they’re joined by Sarah Anderson, CEO & Superintendent of Blackstone Valley Prep, for a conversation about what it truly means to expand opportunity for students and communities. Season 3 of Bold by Choice is all about schools worth bragging about—and this episode delivers. We head to Rhode Island to spotlight Blackstone Valley Prep (BVP), a charter school network intentionally designed to bring together students from four neighboring but historically unequal communities. Across six campuses, BVP blends rigorous academics, joyful school culture, and a deeply rooted college-going mindset that begins early and lasts well beyond graduation. Sarah Anderson shares how BVP’s integrated model, co-teaching approach, strong family partnerships, and intentional design help expand the circle of success for more students—academically, socially, and culturally. In this episode, you’ll hear about: Going beyond college prep to prepare students for life Designing integrated public schools with purpose Creating belonging alongside academic rigor Supporting teachers through collaboration and coaching Leading with pragmatism, optimism, and heart Listen in, share with a colleague, and join us this season as we celebrate bold schools, bold leadership, and bold choices.

The Bold by Choice podcast returns for Season Three — and this time, we’re celebrating schools worth bragging about. In this premiere episode, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner sit down with Sonia Park and Ashley Heard, Executive Director and Deputy Director of the Diverse Charter Schools Coalition (DCSC). Together, they explore how DCSC is leading a movement to design public schools that reflect the richness and diversity of their communities. From its 281 member schools in 26 states and D.C. — serving over 120,000 students — to its 22 Communities of Practice and leadership programs (the Fellows and Explorers), DCSC is redefining what it means to be diverse by design. Segment Highlights 1. The Leaders’ Journeys Sonia and Ashley share how their backgrounds — from Philadelphia classrooms to Teach For America — shaped their calling to lead this coalition. Their “why” stories reveal how courage and clarity fuel bold leadership in education. Jim’s Reflection: “When you know your calling, it gives you courage — and courage is contagious.” 2. About the Organization DCSC is a member-driven network focused on peer learning, equity, and sustainability. Sonia and Ashley explain how they use data, research, and storytelling to strengthen schools and grow leaders who build belonging through design. Key stats: 281 member schools across 26 states + D.C. 120,000 students served nationwide 22 Communities of Practice for shared problem-solving 19 new schools launched through the Fellows Program Annual Convening “Better Together” — an energizing national gathering of educators 3. Spotlight on Schools DCSC’s member schools span diverse models — from IB to project-based learning — united by shared commitments to excellence, culture, and love. Sonia and Ashley introduce DCSC’s High-Quality, Inclusive, Diverse (HQID) framework, developed with members to define what “excellent and equitable” really looks like. 4. Community & Future The coalition is more than an organization — it’s a movement of practitioners. Sonia and Ashley share how listeners can get involved, from joining Communities of Practice to attending DCSC’s next Annual Convening in Washington, D.C. Bold Question: “What’s the boldest choice you’ve made as a school leader to keep your promise to students — and what did it teach you?” Closing Reflections “Chartering at its best is about community, vision, and equity. Sonia and Ashley remind us that being bold together means designing schools that don’t just reflect our world — they help build a better one.” — Vashaunta Harris As Season Three begins, Bold by Choice will continue to spotlight diverse-by-design schools across the nation — schools that prove what’s possible when leaders choose courage, community, and creativity. Until next time — stay bold, stay mission-driven, and stay in community.

In this episode of Bold By Choice Podcast, Powered by the National Charter Schools Institute, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Don Cooper continue the Founders Library series with a tribute to one of the most influential builders in the charter school movement—Linda Brown, founding CEO of Building Excellent Schools (BES). From the earliest days of Massachusetts’ charter experiment, Linda Brown saw what was missing: a system to ensure that new schools were not just open, but excellent. She founded BES to meet that need—developing rigorous fellowships, training future leaders, and creating schools built on discipline, love, and results. “Excellence is not accidental—it’s engineered through vision, discipline, and belief in what’s possible.” — Linda Brown Brown’s philosophy pushed beyond authorization or enrollment numbers; she believed success was only real when students achieved world-class academic outcomes. Through her leadership, BES has launched and supported more than 50 schools nationwide, and her imprint can still be felt in classrooms where high expectations meet deep care. “Poverty is not a limit on potential. The limits we accept are the ones we place on ourselves.” — Linda Brown, Founders Library Interview Key Takeaways 1. Founders Create What Didn’t Exist Before Linda Brown didn’t wait for permission. When she saw no clear pathway for ensuring excellence in new charter schools, she built one—from scratch. “If it doesn’t exist, build it. That’s what founders do.” — Linda Brown 2. Excellence Requires Structure and Accountability Brown rejected the idea that innovation alone was enough. For her, rigor, accountability, and consistency were non-negotiables. She championed longer school days, family engagement, and relentless follow-through. 3. Poverty Is Not a Limit on Potential She challenged deficit thinking head-on. Her mission: to prove that literacy, access, and opportunity were the real game-changers, not circumstance. 4. Leadership Is Learned Through Commitment BES’s Fellowship model was demanding by design—long hours, constant feedback, and the requirement to move to where the need was greatest. Those who finished the program emerged ready to found and sustain great schools. 5. Winning Means Student Mastery For Linda, the win wasn’t authorization or funding—it was when third-grade reading and math scores outpaced district averages. Student results were the measure of excellence. Host Reflections Don Cooper: “Linda Brown’s story reminds us that excellence doesn’t emerge by accident—it’s engineered through vision, discipline, and belief in what’s possible.” Vashaunta Harris: “Her legacy lives on in every BES-trained leader and every classroom where high expectations meet deep care. To be bold by choice is to build systems that last.” Show Notes & Resources Interview: Interview of Linda Brown Collection: The Linda Brown Collection Organization: Building Excellent Schools (BES) Founders Library – Main Archive: charterlibrary.org Call to Action: If Linda Brown’s story inspired you, share this episode with a fellow educator or leader who believes in the power of excellence. Visit Building Excellent Schools or explore her oral history in the National Charter Schools Founders Library to learn more. Closing Line: “Until next time, stay bold, stay mission-driven, and stay in community.”

In this episode of the National Charter Schools Institute's Bold By Choice Podcast, we spotlight another great story from the Founder Library. Hosts Vashaunta Harris and Don Cooper sit with the story of Don Shalvey, the California superintendent-turned-founder who helped launch the nation’s first charter management organization — Aspire Public Schools. Beginning in San Carlos, California — home of the state’s first charter — Shalvey describes how an unexpected lunch with Reed Hastings, then a tech entrepreneur and future Netflix CEO, turned into a decades-long partnership that changed public education. Together, they formed Californians for Public School Excellence, wrote new charter legislation, and set the stage for scalable, high-quality innovation in public schools. From that collaboration came a quiet but revolutionary innovation: allowing a single nonprofit board to oversee multiple schools — an idea that would forever reshape how charters could operate and grow. “An infinite number of charters all needing a board… was both inefficient and probably could create more problems with governance.” — Don Shalvey, Founders Library Interview Key Takeaways 1. Structure Unlocks Scale Don Shalvey’s policy insight — enabling multiple schools under one governing board — made Aspire Public Schools possible. That framework became the foundation for charter management organizations (CMOs) across the country. “I think anybody who ever does school work has to be open to uncertainty as well as the sort of art of possibility.” — Don Shalvey 2. Coalitions Build Change Shalvey didn’t work alone. He brought together teachers, policymakers, and innovators like Reed Hastings to turn policy into practice. It’s a model of bipartisan, collaborative reform still relevant today. “It wasn’t just about law — it was about leadership, relationships, and being willing to try something new.” — Don Shalvey 3. Humble Leadership as a Force Multiplier Throughout his career, Shalvey saw himself as a learner first — curious, adaptable, and generous in sharing what worked. That humility created the conditions for scale without losing soul. “She asked us for only one thing in return ever. And she’s like – just share everything openly with everybody.” — Don Shalvey, referencing the ‘share everything’ ethos that also shaped KIPP and Aspire. 4. Movement > Moment The Aspire story is not just about a network — it’s about momentum. Shalvey’s work at Aspire, and later at the Gates Foundation, reminds us that sustainable reform starts with shared purpose, not just structure. Reflections from the Hosts Vashaunta Harris: “Don Shalvey didn’t just build schools; he built a bridge between sectors. His ability to see innovation not as a threat, but as an invitation, is something every leader can learn from.” Don Cooper: “That one clause — one board, multiple schools — may seem small, but it transformed the entire field. Don’s story is proof that policy design and human vision have to work hand in hand.” Show Notes & Resources Interview: A School Founder’s History: Don Shalvey, Aspire Public Schools California Context: California’s Charter Schools Story 1992 Enabling Law: Senate Bill 1448, Chapter 781 (1992) Policy Background: Hart, Gary K. & Burr, Sue. “The Story of California’s Charter School Legislation.” Phi Delta Kappan (1996). Access required Founders Library – Full Archive: charterlibrary.org

In this episode of the National Charter Schools Institute Bold By Choice Podcast, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Don Cooper continue the Founders Library series with one of the most personal and powerful stories yet — the story behind KIPP: The Knowledge Is Power Program, and the teacher whose wisdom and love shaped its DNA. David Levin, co-founder of KIPP, shares how one extraordinary educator, Harriet Ball, changed the course of his life — and in doing so, changed the course of public education. From his early struggles as a first-year teacher in Houston to his partnership with Mike Feinberg, Levin recalls the lessons Harriet taught him: “It’s never the kids,” “Meet them where they are,” and “Teach with love.” What began as mentorship became a movement. Harriet’s famous classroom chant — “You gotta read, baby, read. The more you read, the more you know. Knowledge is power. Power is freedom.” — inspired not only the name of KIPP, but a national philosophy of empowerment through learning. Levin’s reflections remind us that at the heart of every bold reform is a human connection — one teacher passing the baton to another. Key Takeaways 1. Mentorship That Sparked a Movement When a struggling teacher met a master educator, magic happened. Harriet Ball didn’t just teach lessons — she modeled joy, rigor, and unconditional love. Her mentorship turned frustration into inspiration and helped launch one of America’s most recognized charter school networks. “She taught in 45 minutes what I had failed to teach all year long.” — David Levin 2. The Lessons of Harriet Ball Levin credits Harriet with teaching him three enduring truths: It’s never the kids — success begins with the teacher’s mindset. Meet students where they are — academically and emotionally. Teach with love — even when students don’t make it easy. These principles became the moral framework of KIPP, and countless schools were influenced by its model. 3. From Song to System Harriet’s chant — “Knowledge is power. Power is freedom.” — became KIPP’s name and mantra. It also symbolized the larger idea behind chartering: that knowledge liberates, and educators have the power to reimagine how students learn. 4. Sharing, Not Competing Harriet’s only request was simple: “Share what I’ve taught you.” Levin and Feinberg carried that ethos forward, creating an open-door policy where any educator could visit KIPP schools, observe, and learn. That spirit of collaboration extended to partnerships with Uncommon Schools, Achievement First, and the creation of Relay Graduate School of Education — a modern relay of teaching excellence. 5. The Baton Keeps Moving From Harriet’s fourth-grade classroom to KIPP’s national network and beyond, this story is about legacy — educators passing wisdom, courage, and compassion from one generation to the next. “It’s never the kids. It’s on us.” — David Levin Reflection from the Hosts Vashaunta Harris: “This story resonates with me deeply as a former TFAer. Dave’s realization that ‘it’s not the kids — it’s me’ is one of the most powerful shifts any teacher can make. That mindset is where leadership begins.” Don Cooper: “Harriet Ball’s mentorship didn’t just shape KIPP — it reshaped the movement. Her lessons on joy, rigor, and love became the DNA of great teaching everywhere.” Together, the hosts reflect on how mentorship, humility, and shared purpose continue to define the best of the charter movement — and how Harriet Ball’s legacy remains a guiding light. Show Notes & Resources Explore the stories and archives mentioned in this episode: A School Founder’s History: Dave Levin Interview of Richard Whitmire – The Founders The Founders – eBook PDF The Linda Brown Collection Pioneers and Practitioners: Freedom Preparatory Academy If you enjoyed this episode, share it with a fellow educator who believes that knowledge is power — and that power is freedom. Subscribe to keep learning from the founders and the teachers who keep the torch lit.  

In this installment of the National Charter Schools Institute's Bold by Choice Podcast, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Don Cooper sit down with education journalist Richard Whitmire, author of The Founders — a deep, human story of how collaboration, not competition, built the nation’s most successful charter school networks. Commissioned by The 74 Million and drawn from the archives of the National Charter Schools Founders Library, The Founders traces the rise of networks like KIPP, Uncommon, and Achievement First. Whitmire reveals that their shared success came from an open-source culture rooted in generosity — a legacy that began in Harriet Ball’s Houston classroom. “The founders didn’t guard their playbooks—they swapped them.” — Richard Whitmire, Inside The Founders (Charter Library Interview) Key Takeaways 1. Curiosity Sparked Connection Whitmire’s project began after a casual conversation with Don Shalvey, who encouraged him to look past test scores and policies. What started as a journalistic curiosity became a national chronicle of the people and relationships driving educational transformation. “Don Shalvey said, ‘If you really want to know what happened, talk to the people who built it.’ That changed everything.” — Richard Whitmire 2. Cooperation Over Competition Whitmire found that the most effective charter networks didn’t compete — they shared everything: lesson plans, data, mistakes, and breakthroughs. Instead of guarding intellectual property, they lifted one another up. “They were rivals for teachers and funding, but they shared their secrets anyway. It was collaboration that made them successful.” — Richard Whitmire, The Founders Interview Transcript 3. The Harriet Ball Legacy The culture of sharing began with legendary teacher Harriet Ball, whose mentorship of Dave Levin and Mike Feinberg inspired KIPP’s creation. Her only request: “Share what I’ve taught you.” That mindset became the DNA of the entire charter sector — generosity as a design principle. 4. Closing the Learning Gap Through these networks’ collaborative models, Whitmire witnessed schools where low-income students of color achieved at levels matching their affluent peers — what he called “one of the most hopeful, under-told stories in American education.” 5. The Founders as Living Legacy Supported by an Emerson Collective Fellowship, Whitmire used the Founders Library archives to document a movement still unfolding. His conclusion? The future of education depends on leaders who share what works. Closing Reflections “Movements endure when people choose to collaborate instead of compete.” — Don Cooper “When we share what works, every child wins.” — Vashaunta Harris In this episode, Whitmire reminds us that the real innovation behind chartering wasn’t just autonomy or accountability — it was community. The spirit of sharing, mentorship, and learning together remains one of public education’s most transformative forces. Listen now, and explore The Founders Collection at the Charter Library. Show Notes & Resources Explore these featured resources from the episode: Interview of Richard Whitmire (Founders Library Collection) The Founders – eBook PDF A School Founder’s History: Dave Levin The Linda Brown Collection Pioneers and Practitioners: Freedom Preparatory Academy  

As Season Two comes to a close, co-hosts Vashaunta Harris, Jim Goenner, Don Cooper, and Ember Reichgott Junge reflect on 30 years of chartering — the bold ideas, courageous people, and enduring lessons that continue to shape public education today. This conversation isn’t just about history — it’s about the future. Together, the hosts look back on the movement’s biggest themes and ask how we can continue to honor the original charter promise: freedom, accountability, innovation, and equity. They explore what’s next for chartering as a living, evolving idea — one that still challenges leaders to think differently about policy, people, and possibilities for kids. Main Themes Big Picture: Past and Future What have the last 30 years of chartering taught us about policy, people, and kids? How do those lessons prepare us for the next generation of change? Policy & Structure Chartering was designed to make space for innovation. What have we learned from the compromises of the past — and how can we refine our frameworks for what’s next? People & Leadership From pioneers to policymakers, chartering has always been fueled by people. What leadership traits stand out across decades of change? Kids & Impact Behind every law and policy are students whose lives have been transformed. How do we keep them — not politics — at the center of the story? Grassroots & Possibility Echoing Ted Kolderie’s insight — “the solutions come from those closest to the action” — the conversation reaffirms that the next era of chartering will depend on listening to teachers, families, and communities. Closing Reflections Vashaunta Harris: “Chartering is not just about laws or policies — it’s about people seeing possibilities, taking risks, and creating something new for kids. Studying the past isn’t optional; it’s essential if we want to create a better future.”   Final Message: Season Two may end here, but the journey continues. Season Three will spotlight today’s charter innovators — the schools, boards, and leaders boldly living out the promise in real time. Show Notes & Resources Explore the people, papers, and policies that shaped 30 years of chartering through the Founders Library: Interview of Ember Reichgott Junge Zero Chance of Passage: The Pioneering Charter School Story The Founders: Inside the Revolution to Invent (and Reinvent) America’s Best Charter Schools

Charter laws created permission, but people created possibility. In this episode of Bold by Choice, co-hosts Vashaunta Harris, Jim Goenner, Ember Reichgott Junge and Don Cooper spotlight the first generation of charter founders who didn’t just respond to the system — they reimagined it. These leaders turned ideas into schools, blueprints into movements, and challenges into opportunities. Their approaches were diverse — entrepreneurial, justice-driven, classroom-centered — but all were bold by choice. Featured Founders & Stories Dave Levin – Co-founder of KIPP (Knowledge Is Power Program), who turned one Houston classroom into a national model for academic rigor and character education. J.C. Huizenga – Founder of National Heritage Academies, who brought a business-minded approach to scaling quality and sustainability across public schools. Don Shalvey – Founder of Aspire Public Schools, one of the first CMOs, who partnered with entrepreneurs like Reed Hastings to pioneer scalable innovation. Linda Brown – Founder of Building Excellent Schools, who built leaders, not just schools—training hundreds of founders through her rigorous fellowship model. Roblin Webb – Founder of Freedom Prep in Memphis, who grounded her work in justice, equity, and the unwavering belief that Black students deserve excellence.  Leadership Lessons Vision Meets Execution: The founders proved that laws don’t change lives — people do. Scale Requires Design: From CMOs to fellowships, structure became a tool for sustainability. Equity Is Innovation: Justice-centered schools redefined what it means to serve every child. Courage Is Contagious: Each founder’s risk paved the way for thousands of others. Reflection & Challenge As Jim and Vashaunta reflect, the first wave of charter founders reminds us that real innovation isn’t uniform — it’s courageous. The question for today’s leaders: Are we still as bold as they were? Show Notes & Resources Explore the stories and interviews mentioned in this episode through the Founders Library and the resources below: The Founders: Inside the Revolution to Invent (and Reinvent) America’s Best Charter Schools — by Richard Whitmire A School Founder’s History: Dave Levin Interview of J.C. Huizenga A School Founder’s History: Don Shalvey, Aspire Public Schools The Linda Brown Collection Pioneers and Practitioners: Freedom Preparatory Academy

Passing the first charter laws was only the beginning. Someone had to make those laws real. In this episode of Bold by Choice, co-hosts Vashaunta Harris, Jim Goenner, and Don Cooper take us back to the messy, courageous, and often misunderstood beginnings of charter school authorizing. In Washington, D.C., Tom Nida and Jo Baker recall how two boards were formed to oversee charter schools—without a playbook, precedent, or even the word authorizer in common use. In Minnesota, Pat Sandro raises questions about district-based authorizing and whether districts were ever the right entities to serve as neutral stewards. Together, these stories highlight the leadership, trial-and-error, and bold problem-solving it took to move chartering from policy on paper to practice in schools. Leadership Lessons Lead without a playbook – Early authorizers had no blueprint; they had to define the role as they went. Balance support and accountability – Even today, authorizers wrestle with being both partner and regulator. Question the structure – Minnesota’s district-based model raised conflicts of interest that still spark debate. Reimagine, don’t just repeat – Authorizing is not just compliance—it’s custodianship of the charter promise. Show Notes & Resources Explore the full oral histories and research in the Founders Library Interview of Josephine (Jo) Baker and Tom Nida Interview of Pat Sandro Interview of Robert (Bob) Mills, Ph.D. The Politics of Charter School Authorizing: The Case Study of New York by Jonas Chartock (2012) – Read here  

In this episode of Bold by Choice, co-hosts Vashaunta Harris, Jim Goenner, and Don Cooper continue tracing the spread of the charter school movement—this time turning to Arizona and North Carolina. Two very different contexts, two very different laws—but both fueled by bold leadership and a shared belief that public schools could do better for families. In Arizona, Lisa Graham Keegan helped craft one of the most independent charter laws in the country, creating new authorizing structures outside of district control. In North Carolina, Speaker Harold Brubaker and Senator Fountain Odom championed charters as opportunities, not attacks—navigating bipartisan politics and caps on growth. Together, these stories show how courage, context, and coalition-building shaped the next wave of chartering in America. Key Themes Why the 1990s were ripe for rapid state adoption of charter laws. The bold design choices that made Arizona’s law stand out nationally. North Carolina’s unique balance of competition and opportunity. Leadership lessons from Lisa Graham Keegan and Harold Brubaker. Show Notes & Resources Founders Library – Oral histories, legislative documents, and original resources. Zero Chance of Passage by Ember Reichgott Junge – Get the book Arizona & NC Oral Histories – Explore interviews with Lisa Graham Keegan and Harold Brubaker.

How did the charter school movement jump from one bold law in Minnesota to states across the country? In this episode of Bold By Choice, hosts Vashaunta Harris, Jim Goenner, and season two collaborator Don Cooper (a charter historian & researcher), travel to Michigan and Florida to explore how state leaders reshaped public education for families and communities. You’ll hear directly from Governor John Engler of Michigan and Governor John Ellis (Jeb) Bush of Florida, who each pushed through historic charter school laws—though in very different ways. In Michigan, Engler leveraged executive power and structural reforms to make chartering a competitive force. In Florida, Bush and Ellis crafted a vision rooted in accountability and equity, building a new structure from scratch. Together, these stories show how bold leadership, political courage, and strategic design helped transform state systems—and what today’s leaders can learn from their example. Episode Highlights Governor Engler recalls how Michigan’s charter law passed despite resistance. Why Proposal A’s funding shift was a game-changer for Michigan schools. Jeb Bush and John Ellis reflect on Florida’s early law and its roots in accountability and family choice. How different political contexts produced unique models—and enduring lessons. Leadership takeaways: seize the moment, design for context, and act boldly when the system won’t change itself. Show Notes & Resources Michigan Governor John Engler Special Address to the Michigan Legislature on Education (1993) James N. Goenner, The Origination of Michigan’s Charter Schools Policy: A Historical Analysis (2011) Interview of Richard McLellan (2020) Interview of Gov. John Engler (2022) Florida Interview of John Ellis ("Jeb") Bush (2021) 👉 Be sure to subscribe, share, and leave us a review. Bold choices got us here—and bold leadership will keep us moving forward.

Charter school laws didn’t appear everywhere at once. In this episode, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner highlight two bold frontier stories—California and Colorado—where courageous leaders and cross-aisle coalitions helped chartering carve new paths. From California’s SB 1448 negotiated in a few days by bipartisan champions, to Colorado’s collaborative law shaped by Peggy Kerns, Bill Owens, and community stakeholders, this episode uncovers how vision, strategy, and political courage turned idea into policy. Guests: Ember Reichgott Junge – author of Minnesota’s first charter law, movement pioneer Don Cooper – charter historian and civic leader Whether you lead a school, work in policy, or just believe in educational innovation, join us to hear how these Western states blazed bold trails—and what their stories teach about leading change where you are. Show Notes & Resource Links California California's Charter Schools Story. (2019) https://charterlibrary.org/library/californias-charter-schools-story/ [ACCESS REQUIRED] Hart, Gary K. and Burr, Sue. "The Story of California's Charter School Legislation." Phi Delta Kappan. (1996) https://www.jstor.org/stable/20405703?seq=1 "Education Chairs Introduce 'Charter Schools' Bills". Press release from state Senator Gary K. Hart. (1992) https://charterlibrary.org/library/education-chairs-introduce-charter-schools-bills/ Senate Bill 1448 Chapter 781. (1992). https://charterlibrary.org/library/senate-bill-no-1448-chapter-781/ Colorado Interview of Peggy Kerns and Alex Medler. (2019) https://charterlibrary.org/library/interview-of-peggy-kerns-and-alex-medler/ Interview of Bill Owens. (2019) https://charterlibrary.org/library/interview-of-bill-owens/ Comparison of Charter School Provisions, Minnesota Statute, California Statute, and 93-183. (1993) https://charterlibrary.org/library/comparison-of-charter-school-provisions-minnesota-statute-california-statute-and-sb-93-183-1993-02-09/ Romer, Roy. State of the State Address (excerpt). (1993) https://charterlibrary.org/library/governor-roy-romer/

In this pivotal episode, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner explore how the charter school idea moved from a Minnesota innovation to a national movement. They are joined by Ember Reichgott Junge and Don Cooper to reflect on the federal leadership that elevated chartering from a local experiment to a system-shifting strategy supported across the country. Listeners will hear clips from Senator Dave Durenberger and Jon Schroeder that capture the heart of this moment in history—when federal policymakers saw the potential for chartering to transform public education and chose to champion it. Together, the group unpacks how asking the right question at the right time, combined with strategic policy design, created the federal Charter Schools Program. Episode Highlights: Senator Dave Durenberger’s powerful story of the question that sparked action. How “public service options” and state-level innovation became federal priorities. Jon Schroeder’s blueprint for funding and authorizing charter schools at scale. The crucial role of authorizers and why structure drives outcomes. Lessons in timing, collaboration, and coalition-building that still apply today. Whether you’re a policy leader, authorizer, or educator, this episode offers a masterclass in how visionary questions and strategic action create the conditions for lasting systems change. Listen now to learn how federal leadership made chartering a national priority—and how you can keep building on that legacy. Resources & Show Notes: Founder’s Library — Explore the documents and oral histories from Senator Dave Durenberger and Jon Schroeder. 1994 Public School Redefinition Act Summary — Learn how the federal Charter Schools Program came to life. 2018 Conversation: Ted Kolderie & Ember Reichgott Junge Interview with Ember Reichgott Junge (2023) Creating the Capacity for Change by Ted Kolderie

In this powerful episode of Bold By Choice, host Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner sit down with Ember Reichgott Junge — the Minnesota State Senator who authored the nation’s first charter school law — and charter historian Don Cooper. Together, they revisit the story of how one bold law sparked a national movement, reshaping the landscape of public education. Ember takes listeners behind the scenes of the late 1980s and early 1990s, weaving together the context, opposition, compromises, and breakthroughs that led to the passage of the first charter school law in 1991. From the Nation at Risk report to Governor Rudy Perpich’s reforms, the Itasca Conference dinner napkin sketch, and finally the emotional “worst day of her career” that ended in legislative victory, Ember’s story reveals how bold leadership, persistence, and principled compromise created the conditions for change. Episode Highlights: How A Nation at Risk and Governor Perpich’s reforms set the stage for chartering. The pivotal role of the Citizens League and Ted Kolderie in advancing bold ideas. Ember’s personal journey: navigating resistance from unions, moderates, and political allies. The tense final days of 1991, when the law nearly died — and then passed by just three votes. Leadership lessons from Ember’s story: compromise is not defeat, structure must change before strategy, and timing matters. Whether you’re an educator, policymaker, or advocate, this episode offers timeless lessons in courage, resilience, and system redesign. Ember reminds us that laws aren’t just ink on paper — they’re ideas that can change lives. Show Notes & Resources: Zero Chance of Passage: The Pioneering Charter School Story (2012) Remarks by Sen. Ember Reichgott Junge to the Democratic Leadership Conference (1991) “Involving Families in Education” – A White House Panel (1995) A Conversation between Ted Kolderie and Ember Reichgott Junge (2018): Chartering Origins | Why and How | Chartering Policy and Advocacy https://charterlibrary.org/library/2018-kolderie-and-junge-discussion-part-1-chartering-origins/; Why and How https://charterlibrary.org/library/2018-kolderie-and-junge-discussion-part-2-chartering-why-and-how/; Chartering Policy and Advocacy https://charterlibrary.org/library/2018-kolderie-and-junge-discussion-part-3-chartering-policy-and-advocacy/ Interview of Ember Reichgott Junge (2023) Brief Amici Curiae of Former Elected and Appointed Officials, St. Isidore v. Oklahoma (2025) Oklahoma Charter School Board v. Drummond and St. Isidore of Seville School v. Drummond Oral Argument Additional Reading: Chartering A Better Course (book); Zero Rights of Passage (available via donation — inquire through the Charter Library). Listen now to uncover the true story behind the first charter school law — a story of vision, resistance, compromise, and bold leadership.  

In this episode, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner reflect on the life and legacy of Ted Kolderie, whose groundbreaking ideas reframed chartering not just as a type of school, but as a system redesign strategy. Joined by returning guests Ember Reichgott Junge and Don Cooper, the conversation pairs archival clips of Ted with fresh insights about what it means to lead boldly today. Episode Highlights: Why language matters: chartering as a verb, not a noun. Teacher leadership and the radical redesign of school roles. The “big boat/little boat” analogy and what it teaches us about innovation. Leadership lessons for today: redesign structures, empower teachers, and create space for small, nimble experiments. Featured Archival Clips from the Charter Library Oral History: Ted Kolderie Resources & Links: Zero Chance of Passage by Ember Reichgott Junge Creating the Capacity for Change (2004) Chartered Schools = Choices for Educators + Quality for All Students (1988 Citizens League Report) Making the School the Teachers’ School (2022) Listen now and hear Ted’s words brought back to life—paired with reflections from the people who knew him best.

In our Season 2 premiere, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner travel back to the spark that ignited a national movement. With guests Don Cooper and Ember Reichgott Junge, we trace the formative ideas, people, and policy moments that shaped chartering—from early proposals by Ray Budde to Al Shanker’s influential 1988 National Press Club speech, and the Minnesota Citizens League’s work that turned ideas into law. This episode pairs vivid storytelling with primary sources so you can follow along, explore the documents yourself, and share them with your teams. Explore the primary sources National Charter Schools Founders Library (primary-source archive): https://charterlibrary.org/ Al Shanker, National Press Club (1988): overview at the Founders Library: https://charterlibrary.org/library/albert-shanker-national-press-club-speech-1988/  Ray Budde resources: https://charterlibrary.org/search/?_author=ray-budde&_author_list=ray-budde\   Education by Charter (backgrounder / origins): https://www.educationevolving.org/files/Ray-Budde-Origins-Of-Chartering.pdf Strengthen School‑Based Management by Chartering All Schools (1996): https://openlibrary.org/books/OL31401521M/Strengthen_school-based_management_by_chartering_all_schools Kolderie essay on Budde’s origins (PDF): https://charterlibrary.org/library/ray-budde-the-origins-of-the-charter-concept-by-ted-kolderie/ Founders Library feature: “1988—The Launch of an Idea”: https://charterlibrary.org/library/1988-the-launch-of-an-idea/ Ember Reichgott Junge’s book Zero Chance of Passage (Founders Library page): https://charterlibrary.org/zero-chance-of-passage-shop/ What we cover Ray Budde’s charter concept: Why a quiet academic proposed reorganizing authority by giving teacher teams contractual autonomy—and how that differed from traditional “program” reforms. Al Shanker’s second-wave reform: Why a national union leader called for teacher‑led, autonomous public schools—and how that reframed the conversation. From ideas to statute: How Minnesota’s Citizens League translated theory into policy architecture, paving the way for the first charter law. Politics, promise, and pushback: Early tensions, misperceptions, and the practical tradeoffs that shaped implementation. Why it matters now Understanding chartering’s roots isn’t nostalgia—it’s navigation. Knowing the original intent (teacher power + public accountability) helps today’s leaders stay true to the promise while innovating for the future. Takeaways Chartering began as a public‑school reform from within: autonomy with accountability. Real change scaled when local civic groups turned ideas into workable law and authorizers implemented with integrity. Listen now and use the links above to dive deeper, brief your board, or kickstart PD with founding documents.

In this special live episode recorded at the National Charter School Alliance Conference, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner celebrate 30 years of chartering and offer a preview of what’s ahead in Season 2. Joined by Don Cooper and Ember Reichgott Junge, they walk through the founding stories that sparked the movement and reflect on why the history of chartering still matters today. From the launch of the Founders Library exhibit to the stories behind the very first charter law, this episode connects past, present, and future—and invites listeners to consider their role in writing the next chapter. Episode Highlights: The origin and significance of the Founders Library exhibit Reflections from Don Cooper and Ember Reichgott Junge on the early charter movement Why understanding history is essential to leading with clarity today A preview of Season 2 themes: legacy, leadership, and the future of chartering Listen now to reflect on the movement’s roots and get inspired for what’s coming next!

In this episode of Bold By Choice, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner shine a light on the three essential roles that uphold the charter school promise: authorizers, governing boards, and school leaders. Joined by Alyson Murphy, Director of Partner Services at the National Charter Schools Institute, they unpack how clarity, trust, and aligned responsibilities create a strong governance ecosystem—and how misalignment can quickly derail student success. Using a fictional (but all-too-familiar) scenario and a powerful basketball metaphor, the conversation explores what happens when roles blur and finger‑pointing replaces partnership. Alyson breaks down the unique responsibilities of each stakeholder—school leaders as the players, boards as the coaches, authorizers as the referees—and shares real-world stories of both failure and success. Episode Highlights: The “three‑legged stool” of charter success: authorizer, board, and school leadership What each role is (and is not) responsible for during crisis and change How misalignment impacts students first—and how to spot early warning signs Real examples of authorizers, boards, and leaders working in true partnership Practical tips for building trust, clarity, and shared accountability across the ecosystem When the system works as intended—each role playing its part with purpose and discipline—students win. But it takes intentional relationship‑building and a shared commitment to the charter promise. Listen now to learn how clearly defined roles and trusted partnerships can transform schools from the boardroom to the classroom.

S1 E8 Innovation & Support: Beyond Compliance In this dynamic episode of Bold By Choice, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner welcome special guest Don Cooper, Senior Fellow at the National Charter Schools Institute and Director of Civic Initiatives at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Foundation. Together, they explore the powerful concept of authorizing as a role that extends far beyond compliance and regulation. Don shares insightful stories and experiences from his extensive career, emphasizing how authorizers can play pivotal roles as thought partners, innovation drivers, and capacity builders. He challenges listeners to view compliance not as an end goal, but as a baseline for strategic, meaningful support that fosters transformative educational outcomes. Listeners will gain practical advice on how to cultivate a supportive, human-centered approach in their work, creating robust, lasting relationships between authorizers and schools. Don highlights the importance of values-driven authorizing, the impact of tailored support for schools and students, and innovative ways higher education authorizers can uniquely empower and uplift their school communities. Episode Highlights: Rethinking compliance as a floor, not a ceiling. Strategic approaches to supportive authorizing that prioritize human connections. Effective ways for authorizers to build meaningful relationships and trust with schools. Leveraging institutional resources in higher education authorizing to support schools and students. The role of continuous, values-driven improvement in the authorizing ecosystem. Whether you're an authorizer, board member, school leader, or educator, this episode offers profound insights into how strategic support and innovative thinking can transform educational outcomes and strengthen the charter school ecosystem. Listen now to discover the power of moving beyond compliance to meaningful, impactful partnerships!

In this heartfelt and candid episode of Bold By Choice, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner tackle one of the toughest topics in charter school leadership—closure. Joined by Heather Wendling from the National Charter Schools Institute, they dive deep into the emotional, logistical, and community-driven aspects of closing a school. Vashaunta, Jim, and Heather openly share their personal and professional experiences with school closures, offering listeners an honest look at the difficult realities and essential considerations that must guide these critical decisions. They address the reasons behind closures, from academic performance and finances to governance and enrollment challenges, while questioning whether communities truly have a meaningful voice in these decisions. The conversation emphasizes the importance of handling closure with humanity, dignity, and transparency, ensuring that the impact on students, families, educators, and communities is handled with compassion and care. The hosts challenge listeners to view closure not merely as an end but as an opportunity for reflection, growth, and improvement within the educational ecosystem. Episode Highlights: Understanding the complex reasons behind school closures. Ensuring community voices genuinely influence closure decisions. Defining what a healthy education ecosystem means. Best practices for handling closures humanely and compassionately. Transforming closures into opportunities for learning and systemic improvement. Whether you're navigating a school closure or shaping policies that impact educational communities, this episode offers valuable insights and guidance to lead with integrity, compassion, and courage. Listen now to discover how closure, though difficult, can still reflect your values and commitment to the communities you serve.

In this insightful and reflective episode of Bold By Choice, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner welcome Mary Bradley, Chief Operating Officer, and Heather Wendling, VP of Professional Services, from the National Charter Schools Institute to discuss one of the most pivotal moments in a charter school’s life: renewal. Together, they explore the deep meaning of renewal beyond compliance, framing it as a critical checkpoint that ensures schools keep their promises to students, families, and communities. Mary and Heather emphasize renewal as an opportunity to recalibrate, realign, and recommit to the shared vision of excellence and continuous improvement. Listeners will discover how successful renewal practices balance accountability with grace, consider both qualitative and quantitative measures, and highlight ongoing storytelling to showcase a school’s journey authentically. Through vivid examples and compelling metaphors, the conversation illuminates how renewal, done right, strengthens trust, transparency, and long-term growth. Episode Highlights: Understanding renewal as a vital checkpoint for performance and community trust. Evolving practices in charter renewal toward clarity, transparency, and continuous improvement. Key considerations for renewal: academics, financial health, governance, leadership, and operations. Strategies for balancing accountability with support during challenging times. The role of storytelling in communicating renewal clearly and meaningfully to the broader community. Whether you're a school leader preparing for renewal, an authorizer refining your renewal practices, or a board member guiding your school through critical milestones, this episode offers profound insights to help you navigate renewal effectively. Listen now to understand how the renewal process can empower schools, honor promises, and drive future success!

In this thoughtful and engaging episode of Bold By Choice, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner welcome Alyson Murphy, Partner at the National Charter Schools Institute, to delve into the delicate yet essential balance between autonomy and accountability in charter schools. Drawing from her extensive experience in governance and compliance at Grand Valley State University’s Charter Schools Office, Alyson shares insights on how effective oversight can simultaneously uphold accountability and support innovation. She emphasizes the importance of clearly defined performance expectations, the benefits of relational versus transactional oversight, and how authorizers can foster trust and collaboration while ensuring schools meet their commitments to students and families. Listeners will learn practical strategies for authorizers to maintain rigorous yet flexible oversight, recognize signs of responsible autonomy, and understand why building authentic relationships between authorizers and schools is crucial for sustained success. Alyson highlights how a supportive, values-driven approach can enhance educational outcomes and strengthen community trust. ✨ Episode Highlights: Defining autonomy and accountability within the charter school context. Effective oversight practices that respect school autonomy while ensuring accountability. Common oversight pitfalls and how to avoid them. Lessons learned from historical oversight practices. Innovative approaches to oversight that foster continuous improvement and collaboration. Whether you're an authorizer, board member, or school leader, this episode provides valuable perspectives and actionable advice to strike the right balance and enhance your oversight practices. 👉 Listen now to explore how oversight can empower innovation while safeguarding educational quality!

In this practical and insightful episode of Bold By Choice, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner welcome Mark Weinberg, Vice President of Leadership and Learning at the National Charter Schools Institute. Together, they explore the critical period from when a charter school is authorized to the exciting and challenging moments leading up to opening day. Mark Weinberg, a seasoned educator, school leader, authorizer, and advocate, guides listeners through essential first steps post-authorization, emphasizing the importance of meticulous planning around facilities, hiring, governance, and community engagement. Drawing on real-world experience, Mark highlights common pitfalls, essential success factors, and strategies to foster effective school leadership and strong board governance from day one. Listeners will discover how to navigate start-up pressures, overcome common challenges, and leverage the authorization phase to build a solid foundation for long-term success. Mark also encourages listeners to rethink traditional start-up processes, focusing not only on compliance but also on innovation, culture, and community engagement. Episode Highlights: Immediate actions and priorities post-authorization. Defining and cultivating strong start-up leadership and governance. Avoiding common pitfalls through proactive planning. The role of authorizers and support organizations in school success. Balancing compliance with innovation and community-building. Whether you're part of a founding team, an authorizer, or an education leader, this episode provides actionable insights to ensure a strong, sustainable school launch. Listen now and equip yourself with the knowledge to successfully navigate authorization and start-up phases!