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Clean at Work

A relaxed discussion-based Clean Language channel focusing on the use of Clean Language and Systemic Modelling in a business context with a bias toward agile application.

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    Episode 23: From Handyman to Business Mentor, Inspired by Clean - Featuring Mark Prather

    Episode 23: From Handyman to Business Mentor, Inspired by Clean - Featuring Mark Prather Description:  In this episode of the "Clean At Work" podcast, the hosts dive into an engaging conversation with Mark Prather, a local Orlando-based consultant with a unique approach to business. Mark shares his personal journey of transitioning from corporate life to pursuing an MBA in IT management while doing handyman work on the side. He talks about the concept of “corporate therapy,” a business model he’s developing that focuses on using clean language to guide business owners toward their own solutions, rather than dictating methods. Through this approach, Mark fosters deep self-reflection and problem-solving, helping his clients uncover what they truly need from their businesses. Listeners will be intrigued by Mark's stories of using clean language in unexpected places, from job interviews to home repairs, where he encourages clients to look beyond the surface of their requests. His insights on agile transformation and the importance of incremental design in both business and handyman work provide a refreshing perspective on facilitation over direction. Whether you're interested in leadership, coaching, or just curious about how clean language can change the way you work, this episode is packed with practical wisdom and plenty of laughs. Tune in to discover how Mark's philosophy can help you become more self-sufficient in both business and life! Mark Prather is an experienced agile coach, who uses his varied background to guide teams and coach managers to making the best choices to solve challenges.  https://www.linkedin.com/in/trg404/ About the Hosts John Barratt (https://www.agileaffinity.com/) is passionate about empowering individuals, teams, and organisations to reach their full potential. Utilising a blend of agile techniques infused with the agile mindset, he is dedicated to helping organisations streamline, self-organise, and adapt to today's dynamic business environment. John's approach is deeply influenced by the systemic modelling skills he acquired from Caitlin Walker, which he continuously refines through ongoing training. His work primarily focuses on guiding organisations through the process of descaling and fostering a culture of self-organisation. Learn more about John's work at Agile Affinity. Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnbarratt1/ Sarah Baca (http://www.nerdyknights.com/) is a coach, therapist, facilitator, and teacher who has a passion for using clean language to help others discover what makes them feel vibrantly alive. She has been working with organisations as an agile coach for over a decade, specialising in enterprise and leadership coaching.  Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahjbaca/  

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    Episode 22: Transforming Workplace Communication with Better Conversations – Featuring Chandima Dutton

    "Episode 22: Transforming Workplace Communication with Better Conversations – Featuring Chandima Dutton" Description: In this episode of "Clean At Work," hosts John Barrett and guest host Helen are joined by Chondima, a key figure at the Better Conversations Foundation, who is pioneering the use of clean language to revolutionize workplace communication. Discover how simple yet powerful tools can reduce misunderstandings, enhance productivity, and create a positive work environment. Tune in to learn: How managing your state of mind impacts your conversations. The importance of intentional conversations in achieving workplace goals. Practical strategies for weaving clean language into your daily interactions. The role of better conversations in building resilient, effective teams. Whether you’re a leader, coach, or team member, this episode offers actionable insights that can transform the way you communicate at work. Listen now and start improving your workplace conversations! About the Speaker Chandima Dutton is the CEO and co-founder of the Better Conversations Foundation, which strives to help people connect meaningfully for better relationships, decisions, and outcomes. Drawing from a deep and varied background including strategic planning, technology, coaching, and management in both large and small organisations, Chandima brings a unique perspective on the power of meaningful conversations. She applies Clean Language in organisational settings, through leading the non-profit Foundation, as Head of People in a tech company and coaching senior leaders. Prior to her work in the Foundation, Chandima gained many years of experience managing teams in a large, multinational energy company. She also provided consultancy to the energy, water and education sectors. Her STEM background includes Masters degrees in Innovation, Creativity and Leadership, and in Software Systems. www.linkedin.com/in/chandimadutton About the Hosts John Barratt (https://www.agileaffinity.com/) is passionate about empowering individuals, teams, and organisations to reach their full potential. Utilising a blend of agile techniques infused with the agile mindset, he is dedicated to helping organisations streamline, self-organise, and adapt to today's dynamic business environment. John's approach is deeply influenced by the systemic modelling skills he acquired from Caitlin Walker, which he continuously refines through ongoing training. His work primarily focuses on guiding organisations through the process of descaling and fostering a culture of self-organisation. Learn more about John's work at Agile Affinity. Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnbarratt1/ Helen is an outgoing and driven coach and trainer who is passionate about working with Individuals, teams and organisations on their road to agility. Helen has working with many varied organisations and teams in many different industries and brings this vast wealth of experience and knowledge to her training and coaching. Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/helenjmeek/ Additional Links discussed in the session www.betterconversations.foundation For people interested in the course/talking to us (you can ask people to mention the Clean at Work podcast), they can email [email protected] Signup link for the Open University Business Agility Conference on 25 September 2024 (OU track): https://business-school.open.ac.uk/events/business-agility-conference-uk-2024-leading-through-complexity-0

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    Episode 21: Integrating Clean Language into Kanban, Coaching, and Life with Helen Meek

    Welcome to Episode 21 of Clean At Work! In this episode, we feature Helen Meek, also known as the "Kanban Queen," who is a coach, trainer, and the fiancée of one of the hosts, John. Helen shares her journey of incorporating Clean Language into her professional life over the past six years, despite initial skepticism. She describes how Clean Language, which involves asking non-judgmental, neutral questions to elicit deeper understanding, has become an integral part of her coaching and training practices. Helen discusses the challenges and benefits of using Clean Language in various settings, including one-on-one coaching, group training sessions, and even in personal life with her stepdaughter. She emphasizes the importance of practice, perseverance, and creating a safe environment to master Clean Language techniques. Helen also highlights the value of using Clean Language to maintain curiosity, create psychological safety, and avoid judgment, especially in contexts like data analysis and team dynamics. Towards the end of the episode, Helen shares advice for those new to Clean Language, encouraging them to embrace discomfort as a sign of learning and to seek support from the Clean community. She also mentions her interest in further exploring areas like Clean interviewing and running more coaching dojos. The episode wraps up with an invitation for listeners to connect with Helen on LinkedIn and to continue learning about Clean Language. About the Speaker Helen is an outgoing and driven coach and trainer who is passionate about working with Individuals, teams and organisations on their road to agility. Helen has working with many varied organisations and teams in many different industries and brings this vast wealth of experience and knowledge to her training and coaching. Helen has a holistic approach to coaching operating with individual team members, whole teams, leaders, managers and executives across technical and non-technical departments. You will often find her working with clients on rolling out enterprise level Kanban or Scrum. Helen is proud to be an Accredited Kanban Trainer with the Kanban University (KU) and runs regular classes publicly and privately.  Helen is also one of the few people to hold the Train the Trainer title for the KU. Not forgetting her roots Helen is a regular trainer for Agile and Scrum. Helen is a great believer in sharing her knowledge and encouraging other to do the same and enjoys growing the Agile and Kanban communities through her public speaking and 2 meet up groups. Helen is an authentic coach with many years of real, practical experience and war wounds from her own Agile journey. This is what makes Helen the ideal coach, trainer and leader. Helen holds Kanban Coaching Professional and Certified Team Coach credentials. Helen is also a certified personal and business coach through the ICF. Linked in: https://www.linkedin.com/in/helenjmeek/ Twitter: @Helen_J_Meek Email: [email protected] Website: https://ripple-rock.com/   About the Hosts John Barratt (https://www.agileaffinity.com/) is passionate about empowering individuals, teams, and organisations to reach their full potential. Utilising a blend of agile techniques infused with the agile mindset, he is dedicated to helping organisations streamline, self-organise, and adapt to today's dynamic business environment. John's approach is deeply influenced by the systemic modelling skills he acquired from Caitlin Walker, which he continuously refines through ongoing training. His work primarily focuses on guiding organisations through the process of descaling and fostering a culture of self-organisation. Learn more about John's work at Agile Affinity. Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnbarratt1/ Sarah Baca (http://www.nerdyknights.com/) is a coach, therapist, facilitator, and teacher who has a passion for using clean language to help others discover what makes them feel vibrantly alive. She has been working with organisations as an agile coach for over a decade, specialising in enterprise and leadership coaching.  Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahjbaca/

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    Episode 20: Elevating Organisational Conversations with Pascal & Umar

    Welcome to Episode 20 of "Clean At Work"! This week, hosts Sarah Baca and John Barratt are thrilled to be joined by Pascal and Umar, two dynamic, agile coaches and clean language enthusiasts who are revolutionising how organisations communicate. In this episode, Pascal and Uma explore their innovative approach to fostering better conversations within organisations. They share their journey with clean language and detail how it integrates seamlessly with methodologies like liberating structures and systemic modeling. Discover how clear communication, when paired with the right tools, can significantly reduce wasted time in meetings, build trust, and enhance team dynamics. Tune in to learn: Practical applications of clean language in diverse organisational settings. How to utilise clean language to support effective decision-making. Real-life examples of clean language transforming workplace interactions. Whether you're a manager, team leader, or simply passionate about improving workplace communication, this episode is packed with valuable insights and actionable tips. For more details and to explore our upcoming workshops, visit Better Conversations in Organisations. Join us for this engaging conversation and start transforming the way your organisation communicates today! About the Speakers Umar is a systems thinker specialising in organisational development and change management, harnessing his passion for building relationships through meaningful conversations. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/uijaz/ Pascal is a trainer and coach who focuses on communication and collaboration. He has a lifelong passion for personal development and growth and has assembled an extensive toolbox based on his own experience, which he brings to his facilitation and training sessions. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pascalclarkson/ Website: https://artocraft.co.uk or https://artocraft.nl About the Hosts John Barratt (https://www.agileaffinity.com/) is passionate about empowering individuals, teams, and organisations to reach their full potential. Utilising a blend of agile techniques infused with the agile mindset, he is dedicated to helping organisations streamline, self-organise, and adapt to today's dynamic business environment. John's approach is deeply influenced by the systemic modelling skills he acquired from Caitlin Walker, which he continuously refines through ongoing training. His work primarily focuses on guiding organisations through the process of descaling and fostering a culture of self-organisation. Learn more about John's work at Agile Affinity. Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnbarratt1/ Sarah Baca (http://www.nerdyknights.com/) is a coach, therapist, facilitator, and teacher who has a passion for using clean language to help others discover what makes them feel vibrantly alive. She has been working with organisations as an agile coach for over a decade, specialising in enterprise and leadership coaching.  Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahjbaca/ Additional Links discussed in the session Join our Community of Practice on LinkedIn for weekly posts on related matters. (https://www.linkedin.com/groups/13031207/) Information on the Clean Language Event 2024 in the Netherlands can be found here: https://artocraft.co.uk/cle24/ (English) or https://artocraft.nl/cle24/ (Dutch) All information on Sociocracy 3.0 can be found on their website, it's all licensed under a Creative Commons/Free Culture License. (https://sociocracy30.org/) All the Liberating Structures are listed on https://www.liberatingstructures.com/ and are also licensed under Creative Commons.

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    Episode 19: Mixing Clean Interviewing with Agile Coaching - Insights from Andriy Pluzhnyk

    Welcome to Episode 19 of "Clean At Work," where we are excited to host Andriy Pluzhnyk, an experienced agile coach known for integrating clean language into his practice. Andriy has been on an extensive journey, honing his skills through various courses and applying them effectively in his work. Currently, he is working towards his ICF PCC level certification, demonstrating a high level of coaching proficiency. In this episode, Andriy shares his diverse applications of clean language in coaching, facilitation, and empathy interviews. He discusses how clean language helps him build relationships, understand client perspectives, and navigate complex situations without contaminating them with his biases. Andriy also explains his approach to introducing clean language, ensuring clients feel comfortable and informed. Listeners will gain valuable insights into the practical use of clean language, building trust and empathy, and navigating communication in diverse settings. Andriy also addresses common criticisms of clean language and provides examples of how it has positively impacted his work. Join us for this enlightening discussion with Andriy Pluzhnyk and discover how you can enhance your coaching and facilitation skills with clean language. About the Speaker Andriy Andriy Pluzhnyk - Professional Agile Coach, Flow Consultant & Trainer. Originally from Ukraine, I relocated to Stuttgart (Germany) with my family just before the war started. Holding a Ph.D. in Economics, I bring extensive experience in coaching, teaching, training, and consulting for various industries across the globe. My passion lies in empowering businesses to achieve breakthrough results, transforming teams into high-performing teams, and supporting leaders to become their best selves. With Exxeta AG for the past two and a half years, I've been supporting clients through transformations and building internal capabilities.  About the Hosts John Barratt (https://www.agileaffinity.com/) is passionate about empowering individuals, teams, and organisations to reach their full potential. Utilising a blend of agile techniques infused with the agile mindset, he is dedicated to helping organisations streamline, self-organise, and adapt to today's dynamic business environment. John's approach is deeply influenced by the systemic modelling skills he acquired from Caitlin Walker, which he continuously refines through ongoing training. His work primarily focuses on guiding organisations through the process of descaling and fostering a culture of self-organisation. Learn more about John's work at Agile Affinity. Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnbarratt1/ Sarah Baca (http://www.nerdyknights.com/) is a coach, therapist, facilitator, and teacher who has a passion for using clean language to help others discover what makes them feel vibrantly alive. She has been working with organisations as an agile coach for over a decade, specialising in enterprise and leadership coaching.  Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahjbaca/

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    Episode 18: Creating Change with Sneaky Clean - Conversation with Chris Hutchinson

    For this episode, we're joined by Chris Hutchinson, CEO and Abundance Influencer of  Trebuchet Group.  Chris shares his journey with clean language, starting from his team's initial exposure in a workshop with Caitlin Walker (PhD) in Florida. He discusses how he subtly integrates clean language into conversations with clients to enhance communication and understanding. By using metaphors like whitewater rafting, Chris helps teams visualize and tackle challenges effectively. Chris elaborates on Trebuchet Group's mission to break down barriers and foster collaboration within organizations. They focus on leadership development, team-building, and creating clarity around goals. Clean language has become part of this process, allowing teams to quickly unpack and address issues without drama. Chris emphasizes the importance of stepping away from traditional consultant roles, focusing instead on achieving meaningful outcomes for clients. BIO Since 2002, hundreds of organizations and executive leaders have trusted Chris Hutchinson and his company, Trebuchet Group, to help them achieve great accomplishments through creating great teams. Chris brings together real-world experience to support leaders who feel the weight of their company on their shoulders, and are frustrated by teams not achieving their potential. As an Air Force officer, Chris learned first-hand how leadership can make or break the effectiveness of teams and individuals. As a “recovering” mechanical engineer, he understands how systems need to serve the people who use them to be successful together, not the other way around. As author of Ripple: A Field Manual for Leadership that Works, Chris brings together field-tested practices for leaders to improve their personal impact and create long lasting results. Chris believes great leadership can be learned, and everyone plays a leadership role in some way. Website: Trebuchet Group  www.trebuchetgroup.com LinkedIn:  http://www.linkedin.com/in/rippleleader Twitter: @rippleleader Medium: https://medium.com/@RippleLeaderTG Podcast: The Ripple Leader Podcast with Chris Hutchinson

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    Episode 17: Navigating Conflict with Clean Language - Insights from Jess Hunt

    Welcome to Episode 17 of "Clean at Work," where we are thrilled to host Jess Hunt, a conflict engagement coach for the Unitarian Universalist Association and a doctoral candidate in social transformation and community building. Jess brings a wealth of experience in facilitating conversations within diverse and neurodiverse communities, and they share their journey of integrating clean language into their work. In this episode, Jess discusses how clean language helps in making implicit messages explicit, a crucial aspect when dealing with conflict in congregational settings. They explain the significance of cultural language and the challenges of navigating communication across different regions and backgrounds. Jess provides a glimpse into their approach to conflict resolution, emphasizing the importance of authenticity, intentionality, and explicit communication. Listeners will learn how Jess applies clean language to rebuild trust and foster healing in communities that are inherently mistrustful due to historical and systemic traumas. They also share how clean language complements other methodologies like transformational community conferencing, offering a comprehensive toolkit for effective conflict engagement. Join us for an enlightening conversation with Jess Hunt, and discover how clean language can be a powerful tool in navigating conflict, enhancing communication, and building stronger, more cohesive communities. About the Speaker Jess Hunt Jess Hunt (they, none) is a queer creator, researcher, thinker, puzzler, and parenter. As the head of their active, brilliant, goofy, autistic family, Jess ensures the survival of five humans through all the strife that is life in Central Florida (except of course when it gets too humid and the family flees to UU camps in cooler climes). Every time they lie in a hammock, they commune with the sacred. Jess has earned a Masters in Library and Information Science with a concentration in Youth Services and Leadership and a Bachelor’s of Arts in Theatre with concentrations in art and religion. They are currently working on a Doctorate of Ministry concentrating on Community Change through Faith Formation. Their previous careers have included hospital based healthcare customer service and communication, reference librarian in academic, public, law, and school libraries, and a birth assistant and doula for a homebirth midwife. As a liberative change agent, dedicated to holding space for the uncomfortable through empowering intentional, compassionate love that invites connection, inspires spiritual growth, leans into curiosity, and ignites action, they share a ministry of cooperative learning, inspiring others to be self liberated into a life of authenticity. Jess believes that one of the most important aspects of building community is reducing competition for individual greatness over others. We do fun things because they’re fun. Collective community fun can and should exist just because, without using hierarchy to justify its significance in our lives. Email: [email protected] About the Hosts John Barratt (https://www.agileaffinity.com/) is passionate about empowering individuals, teams, and organisations to reach their full potential. Utilising a blend of agile techniques infused with the agile mindset, he is dedicated to helping organisations streamline, self-organise, and adapt to today's dynamic business environment. John's approach is deeply influenced by the systemic modelling skills he acquired from Caitlin Walker, which he continuously refines through ongoing training. His work primarily focuses on guiding organisations through the process of descaling and fostering a culture of self-organisation. Learn more about John's work at Agile Affinity. Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnbarratt1/ Sarah Baca (http://www.nerdyknights.com/) is a coach, therapist, facilitator, and teacher who has a passion for using clean language to help others discover what makes them feel vibrantly alive. She has been working with organisations as an agile coach for over a decade, specialising in enterprise and leadership coaching.  Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahjbaca/

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    Episode16: Transforming Leadership Through Language - A Conversation with David Marquet

    "Episode 16: Transforming Leadership Through Language - A Conversation with David Marquet" Description: Welcome to Episode 16 of "Clean At Work," where we are honoured to host David Marquet, an esteemed figure in leadership and organizational transformation. David, a former submarine commander and the author of "Turn the Ship Around" and "Leadership Is Language," shares his profound insights on the impact of language in leadership and decision-making. In this enlightening episode, David delves into the concepts of 'red work' and 'blue work' from his latest book, explaining how these frameworks can revolutionize leadership and organizational dynamics. He shares anecdotes from his time commanding the USS Santa Fe, illustrating how shifting language structures on the submarine led to remarkable outcomes. David also touches on his accidental discovery of clean language during his research and how it aligns with his leadership philosophy. He emphasizes the importance of moving away from coercive language patterns and adopting a more inclusive and exploratory approach to communication. Listeners will gain valuable perspectives on the subtle power of language in shaping decision-making processes and fostering a culture of collaboration and empowerment. David offers practical advice on avoiding binary questions, embracing probabilistic thinking, and fostering a safe environment for sharing ideas within an organization. Join us for this captivating discussion with David Marquet and discover how you can implement nuanced language strategies to enhance leadership effectiveness and drive positive change in your organization. About the Speaker David Marquet  Student of leadership and organizational design, former nuclear submarine commander, and named one of the Top 100 Leadership Speakers by Inc. Magazine. David is the Author of the Amazon #1 Best Seller: Turn the Ship Around!, and The Turn the Ship Around Workbook.  David’s latest book, Leadership is Language, is a Wall Street Journal Bestseller and Financial Times Book of the Month selection. David imagines a workplace where everyone engages and contributes their full intellectual capacity, a place where people are healthier and happier because they have more control over their work–a place where everyone is a leader. links: Here’s the new playbook for leaders, Leadership is Language. [US] https://bookshop.org/p/books/leadership-is-language-the-hidden-power-of-what-you-say-and-what-you-don-t-l-david-marquet/12084546?ean=9780735217539 A free asset for you and your team are our leadership nudges. Marquet simplifies the concepts and mechanisms from the books into 1-minute bite-sized pieces on our YouTube channel because the reminders help people. It's called "Leadership Nudges" and we invite you and your team to subscribe. http://www.youtube.com/c/LeadershipNudges About the Hosts John Barratt (https://www.agileaffinity.com/) is passionate about empowering individuals, teams, and organisations to reach their full potential. Utilising a blend of agile techniques infused with the agile mindset, he is dedicated to helping organisations streamline, self-organise, and adapt to today's dynamic business environment. John's approach is deeply influenced by the systemic modelling skills he acquired from Caitlin Walker, which he continuously refines through ongoing training. His work primarily focuses on guiding organisations through the process of descaling and fostering a culture of self-organisation. Learn more about John's work at Agile Affinity. Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnbarratt1/ Sarah Baca (http://www.nerdyknights.com/) is a coach, therapist, facilitator, and teacher who has a passion for using clean language to help others discover what makes them feel vibrantly alive. She has been working with organisations as an agile coach for over a decade, specialising in enterprise and leadership coaching.  Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahjbaca/

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    Episode 15: Harnessing Clean Language for Agile Transformation – Insights from Claudia Orozco-Gomez

    Welcome to Episode 15 of "Clean at Work," where we dive into clean language's practical applications and transformative power in agile coaching with our esteemed guest, Claudia Orozco-Gomez. Claudia, an experienced agile coach with a rich background in facilitating organisational change, shares her journey and insights into how clean language has become an integral part of her coaching toolkit. In this episode, Claudia discusses her clean language approach, emphasising its role in removing personal biases and fostering more inclusive and effective team communication. She highlights the importance of being "cleanish" in her work, adapting clean language techniques to fit the context and needs of the teams and organisations she works with. Listeners will gain valuable insights into Claudia's development of facilitation tools inspired by clean language principles, particularly her use of the "Facilitation Fishing Circle." This tool aids in clarifying team discussions, ensuring that conversations remain focused and productive by systematically exploring related facts and options. Claudia also shares her experiences with cultural and organisational biases, offering tips on recognising and addressing these biases to improve communication and decision-making across distributed teams. Her unique perspective as an American living in France adds depth to the discussion on navigating cultural differences within global organisations. The conversation also covers Claudia's growth through clean language, revealing how it has helped her become more aware of her biases and the impact of her energy and presence in facilitation and coaching sessions. This episode is a must-listen for agile coaches, facilitators, and anyone interested in enhancing their communication and coaching skills through the principles of clean language. Join us for an engaging discussion with Claudia Orasco Gomez and discover how clean language can support agile transformation and foster more effective teamwork and organisational change. About the Speaker Claudia Orozco-Gomez Claudia Orozco-Gomez helps people work better together, on products and teams. She works with them to define what “better” means and then takes it from there through a mix of pragmatism and experimentation.    Recently turned independent, Claudia works as an Agile Coach with teams of teams. A generalist practitioner and self-proclaimed Agile ancillary enthusiast, she loves working with humans to help them discover what works best for them in their context, drawing on different practices and tools, including clean-ish conversations.   Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/claudiaog/ About the Hosts John Barratt (https://www.agileaffinity.com/) is passionate about empowering individuals, teams, and organisations to reach their full potential. Utilising a blend of agile techniques infused with the agile mindset, he is dedicated to helping organisations streamline, self-organise, and adapt to today's dynamic business environment. John's approach is deeply influenced by the systemic modelling skills he acquired from Caitlin Walker, which he continuously refines through ongoing training. His work primarily focuses on guiding organisations through the process of descaling and fostering a culture of self-organisation. Learn more about John's work at Agile Affinity. Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnbarratt1/ Sarah Baca (http://www.nerdyknights.com/) is a coach, therapist, facilitator, and teacher who has a passion for using clean language to help others discover what makes them feel vibrantly alive. She has been working with organisations as an agile coach for over a decade, specialising in enterprise and leadership coaching.  Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahjbaca/

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    Episode 14: Strategizing Clean – Mike Burrows on Integrating Clean Language with Strategic Thinking

    Welcome to Episode 14 of "Clean at Work," where we delve into the fusion of clean language with strategic thinking. Our esteemed guest this week is Mike Burrows, founder of AgendaShift, renowned for his innovative approach to integrating clean language into strategic conversations. In this episode, Mike shares his insights on how clean language can revolutionize strategy-related discussions in technology organizations and beyond. He emphasizes the importance of focusing on outcomes before rushing to solutions, highlighting how this approach saves time and fosters more inclusive, effective conversations. Mike walks us through his "ideal obstacles outcomes" principle, which aligns with systemic modelling techniques. This method encourages exploring the ideal scenario first, then addressing multiple obstacles, creating a more holistic view of the challenges and opportunities. Mike's approach underscores the value of rich, outcome-oriented conversations with diverse voices and perspectives. The discussion also touches upon the practical application of clean language in Mike's facilitated work, including his famous "Fifteen-Minute FOTO" game. This game is a brilliant example of how clean language can be used in a structured yet flexible way to generate meaningful outcomes and strategies. Mike's insights extend beyond mere technique, delving into the nuances of leadership, organizational discourse, and the transformational impact of clean language on workplace communication. He shares his experiences with coaching, the challenges of integrating new tools into established practices, and the importance of respecting the client's mental model. As the conversation unfolds, Mike and our hosts explore the dynamic relationship between problems, obstacles, outcomes, and the broader context of strategic thinking. This episode offers a wealth of knowledge for anyone interested in enhancing their strategic conversations with clean language, from agile coaches to business leaders. Join us for this enlightening discussion with Mike Burrows, where we uncover the synergies between clean language and strategic thought, providing listeners with actionable insights to implement in their workplaces. The game discussed in the podcast can be found here: https://www.agendashift.com/resources/15-minute-foto About the Speaker Mike Burrows is the author of Agendashift: Outcome-oriented Change and continuous transformation (2nd edition March 2021), Right to Left: The digital leader's guide to Lean and Agile (2019, audiobook 2020), and the Lean-Agile classic Kanban from the Inside (2014). Mike is recognized for his pioneering work in Lean, Agile, and Kanban and for his advocacy for participatory and outcome-oriented approaches to change, transformation, and strategy.  Prior to his consulting career, he was global development manager and Executive Director at a top tier investment bank, CTO for an energy risk management startup, and interim delivery manager for two of the UK government's digital 'exemplar' projects. Through Agendashift and the Agendashift Academy, his focus now is on wholehearted, deliberately adaptive organizations and the transformational leadership that enables them. About the Hosts: John Barratt (https://www.agileaffinity.com/) loves seeing individuals, teams, and organizations become the best they can be. He does this using a mixture of coaching approaches embedded with the agile mindset. John spends most of his time supporting organizations to descale and self-organize, relying heavily on the systemic modelling skills he learned through his ongoing training from Caitlin Walker. Sarah Baca (http://www.nerdyknights.com/) is a coach, therapist, facilitator, and teacher who has a passion for using clean language to help others discover what makes them feel vibrantly alive. She has been working with organizations as an agile coach for over a decade, specializing in enterprise and leadership coaching. 

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    Episode 13: The Dance of Clean Language – Balancing Inquiry and Sensitivity in the Workplace with Sarah Scarratt

    Welcome to Episode 12 of the "Clean@Work" podcast, a must-listen for anyone intrigued by the nuanced application of clean language in professional settings. In this engaging episode, we're delighted to host Sarah Scarratt, a distinguished Systemic Modeling Master who brings a wealth of experience and insight to our discussion. Sarah dives deep into the practicalities and boundaries of using clean language at work. She shares enlightening experiences, from humorous anecdotes about the unexpected consequences of deep questioning during a ramble to the profound lessons learned in grief and bereavement counselling. Her stories highlight the importance of context and appropriateness when employing clean language techniques. Furthermore, Sarah touches on the concept of 'contracting' – seeking permission and acknowledging the relationship context before diving into clean language questioning. This conversation illuminates the subtle art of balancing inquiry with sensitivity, especially in informal or emotionally charged discussions. The episode takes an exciting turn as Sarah relates clean language to the world of agile coaching, drawing parallels with the concept of 'dancing in the moment'. This metaphor beautifully encapsulates the fluidity and responsiveness required in both disciplines. Sarah's journey into the realms of grief counselling and suicide prevention adds a poignant layer to the discussion, prompting reflections on the deeper roles coaches and facilitators can play in supporting mental health in the workplace. As we wrap up, Sarah leaves us with thought-provoking insights on how clean language shapes our worldview, enhancing our understanding of neurodiversity and individual uniqueness. She offers a glimpse into her upcoming projects, including intriguing research on sustainable change in leadership. This episode is not just a conversation; it explores the delicate dance between asking the right questions and respecting the emotional landscape of our colleagues and clients. It's a compelling listen for coaches, facilitators, and anyone interested in the transformative power of clean language in the workplace. About the speaker: Sarah is a certified Coach, Mentor and Trainer, specialising in Clean Language and Systemic Modelling.  She loves to get curious about how people ‘tick’, and delights helping people to get curious about their own selves, in a non-judgmental way.  Gently revealing layers until we find treasure. Or trash, in which case, we can throw it out! Sarah has run her own business for 20 years and has a depth of experience in recruitment and training, small business management as well as a variety of other roles such as teaching and end of life counselling.  About the Presenters: John Barratt (https://www.agileaffinity.com/) loves seeing individuals, teams, and organisations become the best they can be. He does this using a mixture of coaching approaches embedded with the agile mindset. John spends most of his time supporting organisations to descale and self-organise, relying heavily on the systemic modelling skills he learned through his ongoing training from Caitlin Walker. Sarah Baca (http://www.nerdyknights.com/) is a coach, therapist, facilitator, and teacher who has a passion for using clean language to help others discover what makes them feel vibrantly alive. She has been working with organizations as an agile coach for over a decade, specializing in enterprise and leadership coaching.   

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    Episode 12: The Art of Clarity – Tom Hoyland on Clean Language in Agile Coaching

    Welcome to Episode 12 of "Clean at Work," where we dive into the transformative power of clean language in agile coaching with our guest, Tom Hoyland. A self-described broad-spectrum agile coach, Tom shares his journey of integrating clean language into his practice to enhance team dynamics and individual coaching sessions. In this episode, Tom discusses his innovative "Facilitation Fishing Circle" tool, born from his experiences and collaborations at Agile Coach Camp. This tool, designed for simplicity and effectiveness, helps teams and individuals clarify their conversations, focusing on the central topic and exploring related facts and options. Tom explains how this method enables teams to stay on track, avoiding distractions and fostering a more connected and coherent dialogue. Tom's passion for clean language shines through as he describes its ability to remove personal biases and allow the natural dynamics of a team to surface. He emphasises the importance of clean language in creating a space for teams to authentically express their needs and challenges. Listeners will also hear about Tom's experiences at Agile Coach Camp, where he refined his approach to clean language and facilitation. The camp provided a unique environment for deep learning and collaboration, contributing significantly to Tom's professional development. This episode is a testament to the impact of clean language in agile coaching and an inspiration for agile coaches and facilitators looking to incorporate clean methodologies into their work. Join us in this enlightening conversation with Tom Highlander and discover how clean language can be a game-changer in your agile coaching toolkit. About the Speaker Work with Tom: https://linktr.ee/thatagile that agile: https://www.thatagile.com/ Facilitation Fishing Circle: https://github.com/tomhoyland/fishing-circle About the Hosts: John Barratt (https://www.agileaffinity.com/) loves seeing individuals, teams, and organizations become the best they can be. He does this using a mixture of coaching approaches embedded with the agile mindset. John spends most of his time supporting organizations to descale and self-organize, relying heavily on the systemic modelling skills he learned through his ongoing training from Caitlin Walker. Sarah Baca (http://www.nerdyknights.com/) is a coach, therapist, facilitator, and teacher who has a passion for using clean language to help others discover what makes them feel vibrantly alive. She has been working with organizations as an agile coach for over a decade, specializing in enterprise and leadership coaching. 

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    Episode 11: Clean Interviewing with Dr. Caitlin Walker

    In this episode of Clean @ Work, Sarah and John speak with their mentor and friend Dr. Caitlin Walker, Director of Clean Learning (https://cleanlearning.co.uk/). Dr. Walker explains what clean interviewing is, the difference between clean language and clean interviewing, the value of clean interviewing, and what makes clean interviewing different from other interviewing.  Caitlin is the developer of Systemic Modelling and author of From Contempt to Curiosity. She is equally at home sharing her ideas with large audiences, facilitating change in small groups and doing deep one-to-one therapy. John Barratt (https://www.agileaffinity.com/) loves seeing individuals, teams and organisations become the best they can be. He does this using a mixture of coaching approaches embedded with the agile mindset. John spends most of his time supporting organisation to descale and self-organise relying heavily on the Systemic Modelling skills he learnt through his ongoing training from Caitlin Walker. Sarah Baca (http://www.nerdyknights.com/) is a coach, therapist, facilitator, and teacher who has a passion for using clean language to help others discover what makes them feel vibrantly alive. She has been working with organizations as an agile coach for over a decade, specializing in enterprise and leadership coaching. 

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    Episode 10: Unlocking the Power of Clean Language: A Deep Dive with Expert Gina Campbell

    In this exciting episode of the podcast, Gina Campbell, a clean language expert and author, delves into the world of clean language, sharing her extensive experience and insights. She discusses her journey from a teaching career to discovering and exploring clean language, ultimately writing a book to help others learn this powerful communication technique.   Gina reveals her passion for teaching clean language to beginners and running a practice group for those who have finished basic training. The group, consisting of people from different countries, forms a close-knit community meeting via Zoom. She shares how she has adapted to using Zoom for her sessions, acknowledging that she cannot always see or hear everything that happens during the sessions. Despite these challenges, Gina's ultimate goal is to be a guiding voice, letting clients truly own their sessions.   She also talks about the challenges of using spatial techniques and drawings in online sessions and how she has become the "post-it queen," using post-its to straddle the gap between working with pictures and strictly verbally.   Get inspired as Gina shares her plans for a new workbook focused on more advanced clean language concepts, such as inner child work, working with binds, and patterns. She invites listeners to contact her with suggestions for her upcoming book and encourages everyone to check out her website for more resources on clean language.   Don't miss this chance to learn from an expert in the field as Gina takes you on a journey through the world of clean language. Be sure to like and subscribe to the channel so you don't miss any future episodes filled with valuable insights and information. Special Guest Gina Campbell Gina Campbell’s background as an educator, her training as a school counselor, and her work as a certified facilitator of both Clean Language and poetry therapy, mean she brings a unique blend of talents and experience to her work with metaphors. She is the director and lead trainer for her company, Clean Language Resources (formerly Mining Your Metaphors), offering trainings to a broad range of helping and healing professionals since 2005. She is a Certified Assessor of trainees pursuing credentialing as Clean Language Facilitators and Clean Space Facilitators. Gina is the author of four books on Clean Language processes, including a workbook series, Mining Your Client’s Metaphors. Known for their clear, conversational, learner-friendly style, these books take richly complex topics and break them down into incremental pieces that can be readily understood and learned.     My website: https://www.cleanlanguageresources.com    Amazon connection to my books, starting with Panning for your Client’s Gold page:   U.S. https://www.amazon.com/Panning-Your-Clients-Gold-Processes/dp/1504329279/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=panning+for+your+clients+gold&qid=1636043362&sr=8-1    U.K. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Panning-Your-Clients-Gold-Processes/dp/1504329279/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2H9K0I3B5NQTS&keywords=Panning+for+your+client%27s+gold&qid=1636043437&sprefix=panning+for+your+client+s+gold%2Caps%2C147&sr=8-1    Facilitated by Sarah Baca and John Barratt Sarah is a leader, speaker, and writer who believes that the only way we can get work done is through relationships. Passionate about growing cultures where it is safe to mess up (aka innovate), Sarah has been leading teams for over a decade. She believes that holistic and systemic growth can happen for individuals and their organisations when people are attracted to a shared irresistible future.  Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahjbaca/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/sarahndipity03 John is the first agile coach to achieve the much more challenging than it sounds Systemic Modelling Level 1 certification. He spends his time using systemic modelling to help organisations be outcome-focused in the change they are looking for whilst supporting them to be resilient and people-centric. When he is not doing that he is training and mentoring other agile coaches to be the best they can be through his company www.agileaffinity.com. Email: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnbarratt1/ Twitter: @Coachjohnuk Blog: https://medium.com/@CoachJohn  

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    Episode 09: Sharon Small & Worldwide Clean at Metaphorum

    For this episode of Clean at Work, we speak with Sharon Small about how she's applied clean language at her workplace, then moved to becoming a full-time clean language trainer. She is the host of the upcoming Metaphorum (3 December) and Clean Convergence 2022, a classic symbolic modeling retreat and advanced clean language workshop .   Metaphorum: (both info about and registration link):  https://buytickets.at/cleanlanguageinstitute/584740 Metaohorum idea slide (see whats happening): https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/11DcD-x0199Ehj1EHbSmj_McAKsTzZZ3ZzbfvOWKTkL0/edit?usp=sharing   Clean Convergence 2022: (webpage with info): https://cleanlanguagetraining.com/clean-convergence-reg-open-oct1/ Clean Convergence 2022: (Registration page): https://cli.regfox.com/cc2022   About the Speaker:   Sharon Small is international authority on clean language interviewing (CLI) and founder of the Clean Language Institute.  With 14 years experience in nuclear power generation, a B.Sc. in Professional Studies, and master certification in Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP). In 2006, Sharon introduced clean language questions and principles to a major nuclear power facility, focusing on interactions between field personnel, management, and leaders. Sharon has trained others on Symbolic Modeling and clean methodologies since 2008. In 2013, she introduced clean language to Japan and has been training in CLI since 2017. Sharon a the co-editor along with Andrea Chiou of Who is Using Clean Language Anyway and author of The End of Therapy.   About the Presenters: John Barratt (https://www.agileaffinity.com/) loves seeing individuals, teams, and organisations become the best they can be. He does this using a mixture of coaching approaches embedded with the agile mindset. John spends most of his time supporting organisations to descale and self-organise, relying heavily on the systemic modelling skills he learned through his ongoing training from Caitlin Walker. Sarah Baca (http://www.nerdyknights.com/) is a coach, therapist, facilitator, and teacher who has a passion for using clean language to help others discover what makes them feel vibrantly alive. She has been working with organizations as an agile coach for over a decade, specializing in enterprise and leadership coaching. 

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    Episode 08: Clean Embodied & Used in Hybrid Facilitation

    For this episode of Clean @ Work, John and Sarah have a chat with Judy Rees, the popular Clean Language educator, facilitator, and enthusiast. Judy tells us about the embodiment of Clean Language and how that makes for better face-to-face, virtual, and hybrid facilitation. Judy Rees has been using Clean Language with groups and teams for more than 12 years and has taught the topic extensively. She is the co-author of Clean Language: Revealing Metaphors And Opening Minds and author of Your Clean Language Questions Answered, as well as a number of recorded Clean Language courses. Her weekly Linkletter brings news of Clean, embodied cognition, online gathering and more to around 4000 readers each week. Sign up at https://reesmccann.com/   For the last five years, she’s been the host of one of the world’s first online-video unconferences, Metaphorum, which connects 150 Clean enthusiasts around the world in an annual 13-hour live-learning marathon.

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    Episode 07: Systemic modelling with Penny & James

    For our seventh episode of Clean@Work, John and Sarah talked to Penny Tompkins and James Lawley about using symbolic modelling in their work with organisations.  Penny Tompkins and James Lawley are the developers of Symbolic Modelling, which incorporates the Clean Language of David Grove. They are leading authorities on using a self-generated metaphor for personal and professional development. They have trained Symbolic Modelling and Clean Language to coaches, managers and teachers throughout the world. Their book, Metaphors in Mind, is a comprehensive guide to their approach. They have been coaches, modellers, consultants and facilitators to various organisations and teams as diverse as global pharmaceutical companies, Yale University Child Study Center, NASA Goddard Space Center, and the Findhorn Spiritual Community in Scotland. UPCOMING EVENTS InsideClean:   https://insideclean.thinkific.com/ Join us to explore the hidden expertise of Clean Language and Symbolic Modelling 2021 Series Topic: “How People Change”  Clean Language Interviewing:   cleanlanguagetraining.com/clean-convergence-2021-sharon-small/ Learn how the wording of interview questions can unintentionally bias answers, how ‘leading’ questions cast doubt on the authenticity of the information collected, and how to avoid this by asking ‘contextually clean’ questions. ARTICLES Clean Conversations: Remaining Clean-ish in everyday settings cleanlanguage.co.uk/articles/articles/249/1/Clean-Conversations/ A clean conversation is a dialogue that clearly expresses your intention while at the same time giving the other person the maximum opportunity to answer or respond without the imposition of your metaphors and assumptions. Modelling, Metaphor and a Clean Approach to Business and Organisations   cleanlanguage.co.uk/articles/articles/225/1/Using-Modelling-Metaphor-and-a-Clean-Approach-in-Business/ James is interviewed about modelling, Clean and metaphor in the context of business and other organisations.

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    Episode 06: Agile and Clean Language - Past, Present and Future

    For our sixth episode of Clean@Work, we speak with Andrea Chiou, one of the first agile coaches to bring Clean Language to the agile masses. Topics include How Andrea first discovered Clean Language and Agile Coaching  How Andrea trained in Systemic Modelling and brought it to America The difference the training she has given has made to people A remarkable fact about how we think Clean Language at the Agile Alliance annual conference and where it started Agile Coaches as lifelong learners What’s next for Andrea? (Spoiler Alert: Clowning, Improv and AgendaShift) The 15 min FOTO exercise Andreas suggestion on where to start if you want to find more about Clean Language in business Facilitated by Sarah Baca and John Barratt Sarah is a leader, speaker, and writer who believes that the only way we can get work done is through relationships. Passionate about growing cultures where it is safe to mess up (aka innovate), Sarah has been leading teams for over a decade. She believes that holistic and systemic growth can happen for individuals and their organisations when people are attracted to a shared irresistible future.  Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahjbaca/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/sarahndipity03 John is the first agile coach to achieve the much more challenging than it sounds Systemic Modelling Level 1 certification. He spends his time using systemic modelling to help organisations be outcome-focused in the change they are looking for whilst supporting them to be resilient and people-centric. When he is not doing that he is training and mentoring other agile coaches to be the best they can be through his company www.agileaffinity.com. Email: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnbarratt1/ Twitter: @Coachjohnuk Blog: https://medium.com/@CoachJohn Special Guest: Andrea Chiou  

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    Episode 05: First impressions of systemic modelling

    For our fifth episode of Clean@Work, we are exploring what it’s like when you first encounter systemic modelling through the introduction training course clean for teams. Topics Covered This Episode Reasons for joining the course The difference the course has made His favourite clean questions Where he has already used Clean Language  Using ‘what kind of’ rather than ‘what else’ What he won’t use  Comparing Clean Language to Co-Active and how it fits together How he will use it with a team when facilitating How it has changed him as a person What he would say to someone who is thinking of learning more about  Facilitated by John Barratt John is the first agile coach to achieve the much more challenging than it sounds Systemic Modelling Level 1 certification alongside an alphabet soup of agile qualifications including both Scrum Alliance CEC & CTC along with ICAgile Expert in Agile Coaching. He spends his time using systemic modelling to help organisations be outcome-focused in the change they are looking for whilst supporting them to be resilient and people-centric. When he is not doing that he is training and mentoring other agile coaches to be the best they can be through his company www.agileaffinity.com. Email: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnbarratt1/ Twitter: @Coachjohnuk Blog: https://medium.com/@CoachJohn Special Guest: Paulo Dias Paulo Dias is a passionate agile practitioner and Business Agility Enterprise Coach. He has 24 years of experience in Software Development having started his career as a software engineer in 1995. In the last 11 years, Paulo has been working on a variety of different roles as Enterprise and Business Agility Coach, Consultant, Trainer and Mentor. As a coach, Paulo has been partnering with clients at all levels of the enterprise from the senior leadership to team level coaching. As a leadership consultant, Paulo has been helping organizations to gain strategic alignment, becoming more adaptive to fast-changing market conditions, reducing lead time and increasing flow efficiency. The bulk of his experience has been in large financial institutions, having also worked in the airlines, telecommunications, automobile and energy industries. Paulo can be reached at: [email protected] and his LinkedIn profile is: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulo-dias-uk/  

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    Episode 04: Journey to Systemic Modelling Mastery

    For our fourth episode of Clean@Work, we explore what it takes to become a level two systemic modelling facilitator (Spoiler alert: You have to give up trying) and what superpowers you have when you get there.  Topics Covered This Episode Try not to have the certification as your goal The difference between levels 1 & 2 Systemic modelling in schools Systemic Modelling becomes part of everything you do, including schooling, pilates as well as business. Where to start with systemic modelling Why it’s essential to look after your own needs  Facilitated by Sarah Baca and John Barratt Sarah is a leader, speaker, and writer who believes that the only way we can get work done is through relationships. Passionate about growing cultures where it is safe to mess up (aka innovate), Sarah has been leading teams for over a decade. She believes that holistic and systemic growth can happen for individuals and their organisations when people are attracted to a shared irresistible future.  Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahjbaca/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/sarahndipity03 John is the only agile coach to achieve the much more challenging than it sounds Systemic Modelling Level 1 certification. He spends his time using systemic modelling to help organisations be outcome-focused in the change they are looking for whilst supporting them to be resilient and people-centric. When he is not doing that he is training and mentoring other agile coaches to be the best they can be through his company www.agileaffinity.com. Email: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnbarratt1/ Twitter: @Coachjohnuk Blog: https://medium.com/@CoachJohn Special Guest: Svetlana Shapovaliants  

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    Episode 03: Journey to Level 1 with Jackie Lawlor

    For our third episode of Clean@Work, we explore what it takes to become a level, one systemic modelling facilitator.  Sarah will facilitate the session, starting by asking about our journeys and how we got into systemic modelling? And what difference it has made to how we show up?   Finally, for those on the journey, we will share our thoughts and tips on how to get through what must be one of the most challenging certifications in the world. Facilitated by Sarah Baca Sarah is a leader, speaker, and writer who believes that the only way we can get work done is through relationships. Passionate about growing cultures where it is safe to mess up (aka innovate), Sarah has been leading teams for over a decade. She believes that holistic and systemic growth can happen for individuals and their organisations when people are attracted to a shared irresistible future.  Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahjbaca/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/sarahndipity03 Not so Special Guest: John Barratt John is the only agile coach to achieve the much more challenging than it sounds Systemic Modelling Level 1 certification. He spends his time using systemic modelling to help organisations be outcome-focused in the change they are looking for whilst supporting them to be resilient and people-centric. When he is not doing that, he trains and mentors other agile coaches to be the best they can be through his company www.agileaffinity.com. Email: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnbarratt1/ Twitter: @Coachjohnuk Blog: https://medium.com/@CoachJohn Special Guest: Jackie Lawlor Jackie Lawlor is a highly experienced ILM Level 7 Executive Coach and Mentor and Facilitator, specialising in Clean Language and Systemic Modelling. Jackie currently incorporates Clean Language into all her training and coaching which is cross-sector, and is most proud of training the entire professional development team and specialist nurses in Organ Donation at NHS Blood and Transplant in Clean Language, so that they are even more flexible, respectful and responsive when having very sensitive conversations about organ donations. Clean language is now embedded into training at NHS BT from induction to medical simulations, and it has made a real difference to the confidence of the nurses who use it. Jackie came to Clean Language in approx. 2013, as part of an NLP course, when doing a modelling project? Jackie initially thought the questions were ridiculous! It was only when using the questions to model exemplars for her desired outcome that she realized the difference the questions were making. She was able to model the front of mind-stuff and also the out of awareness information the exemplar didn’t know about what they did. Jackie was hooked! Learning initially with Judy Rees, and as a passionate experiential and action learner who loves fast feedback loops, she practised intensely with peer learners clocking up 100 Clean Language coaching hours within a few months of starting the learning. As Jackie got more experienced, she began teaching Clean Language as a stand-alone subject or as part of coaching and other courses and presenting workshops at conferences for Health Education England in the West Midlands, Later, West Midlands Leadership Academy. On her journey, Jackie has learned from many key masters in this field, some of whom worked directly with David Grove, (the source of this wonderful methodology), Caitlin Walker, Marian Way, James Lawley and Penny Tomkins. She is a regular contributor at Metaphorum, and in the Systemic Modelling community, both of which celebrate all things Clean.  Well known now in the Clean Community as a great collaborator, supporter and advocate of Clean Language, Jackie is Accredited to Level 1 ( broadly equivalent to ILM Level 7), in Caitlin Walkers Systemic Modelling (Clean For Teams) which is driven by Clean Language. and has additionally spent five days learning Clean Space. Jackie incorporates Clean Language into her whole life.

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    Episode 02: What is Systemic Modelling

    For our second episode of Clean @ Work, we are moving on to what is systemic modelling? We cover topics such as: What is the difference between facilitating and systemic (Team) coaching? The difference between ORSC and Systemic Modelling The history of Clean Language and Systemic Modelling The essence of systemic modelling How we use systemic modelling in an agile context Facilitated by John Barratt and Sarah Baca John is the only agile coach to achieve the much more challenging than it sounds Systemic Modelling Level 1 certification. He spends his time using systemic modelling to help organizations be outcome-focused in the change they are looking for whilst supporting them to be resilient and people-centric. When he is not doing that he is training and mentoring other agile coaches to be the best they can be through his company www.agileaffinity.com. Email: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnbarratt1/ Twitter: @Coachjohnuk Blog: https://medium.com/@CoachJohn Sarah is a leader, speaker, and writer who believes that the only way we can get work done is through relationships. Passionate about growing cultures where it is safe to mess up (aka innovate), Sarah has been leading teams for over a decade. She believes that holistic and systemic growth can happen for individuals and their organizations when people are attracted to a shared irresistible future.  Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahjbaca/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/sarahndipity03

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    Episode 01: What Difference Has Systemic Modelling Made to You?

    For our first episode of Clean @ Work, we are starting with WHY. Why do we love systemic modelling so much? We ask our guests, who are Agile Coaches using systemic modelling around the world, "What difference has systemic modelling made for you?" John Barratt facilitates this episode with our guests: Johan Nordin, Pascal Clarke, Pascal Clarke, Mark Sheffield, and Jolene Jangles. Sarah Baca is the supporting host and video editor. GUEST BIOS: JOHAN NORDIN is amazed by the power of shared understanding, curiosity and respect. He creates conditions for meaningful conversations, collaboration and business agility using visualisation of minds through Systemic modelling, workflow through Kanban boards and landscapes through Wardley Maps. He is a father, husband and owner of a lovely farm in the middle of Sweden and a company called Simplify Change. You can contact Johan on Twitter at https://twitter.com/johannordin and on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/johanhnordin/ PASCAL CLARKSON has been working with the Scrum framework since 2012. With a background in Software Engineering and personal development, he has developed himself into a Systemic Change Facilitator, aiming to help individuals, teams and organisations to find their own way of adopting an Agile mindset. By making use of Clean Language, Systemic Modelling and other tools, he picked up along the way, he facilitates the discovery of what is needed by the system. For more information you can find him on LinkedIn at http://linkedin.com/in/pascalclarkson MARK SHEFFIELD is an Agile coach, Scrum Trainer, and co-author of Inviting Leadership: Invitation-Based Change™ in the New World of Work. He began learning Clean Language and Systemic Modelling from Caitlin Walker in 2018. His coaching clients learn to express themselves, gain richer understanding of each other, and become higher performing as he guides them through experiencing and exploring Clean Language and Systemic Modelling. You can contact Mark at https://www.linkedin.com/in/markbsheffield JOLENE JANGLES is a lean/agile practitioner and Co-Active coach who works with individuals, teams, and organisations to reach higher levels.   Using the right balance of teaching, mentoring and coaching she shares her passion, hoping to ignite the greatness she sees in others.  You can contact Jolene at https://www.linkedin.com/in/jolene-jangles

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