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Conversations of Agile Change

Dr Jen Frahm and Lena Ross talk all things agile change with practitioners, change managers, those in the agile domain and experts in the field.

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    Tracey Petrie: Cutting Through in a Crowded Change Market

    Connect with Tracey on Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/tracey-petrie-73530619/ Check out Tracey's resources: https://whitecloudrecruitment.com.au/news-articles/ Ways to standout in a crowded market: https://aclinstitute.com/newsroom/best-change-management-courses-australia/

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    Deborah Fleischer: Agile change is smoother, better value and better quality.

    Deborah Fleischer: LinkedIn profile https://www.linkedin.com/in/debfleischer/

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    Allie Hartman: Curiosity, AI & the Future of Change

    Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandrajhartman/Change Curiosity Lab https://www.changecuriositylab.com/Working Out Loud with AI: Building Agile Change Momentum -Webinar  https://www.eventbrite.com/e/working-out-loud-with-ai-building-agile-change-momentum-tickets-1975063505111?aff=oddtdtcreator

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    Sue Danner: Elevate, Enable, Empower: Agility in the Unlikely Places

    Sue's website www.changeroadie.comSue's Linkedin profile 

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    No Drama, Just Change: Agile Lessons from the UniSuper Trio

    In this episode of Conversations of Agile Change, Dr. Jen Frahm chats with Dijana Marjanovic Alispahic, Marco Di Santis, and Leah Makin from UniSuper — a powerhouse trio redefining agile change in a highly regulated industry. They unpack their accidental journeys into change, the human side of agile, what brain-friendly practice means for neurodivergent professionals, and the leadership practices that foster psychological safety and creativity. Expect candor, laughter, and a few truth bombs that will stay with you long after the episode ends.

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    Amy Leighton: Agile Change in M&A: Trust, Speed, and Cultural Fit

    💡 Topics include:The shift from waterfall to moments-that-matter in M&ACultural due diligence as a critical success factorUsing agile planning in uncertaintyBuilding trust through iterative communicationMiddle manager capability as a game-changerTop 3 agile tools for M&AIf you’re a change practitioner working on or preparing for M&A—this episode is gold.🎤 Featuring: Amy Leighton, Enterprise Change Partner at Aurecon📄 Based on: ACMP’s May 2025 White Paper, Navigating the Future of Change ManagementGlobal Connect - ACMP July conference 

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    Elizabeth Beattie: Leading Change in an AI World

    In this episode of Conversations of Agile Change, Dr. Jen Frahm sits down with Elizabeth Beattie, Program Change Lead for AI and Innovation at UNSW, to explore what it really takes to lead change in the age of AI. Elizabeth shares how she's applying agile, human-centered change techniques to foster curiosity, build capability, and create safe spaces for experimentation at a research-intensive university. They dive into lessons on leadership vulnerability, why co-creation beats top-down control, and how AI transformations are fundamentally different (and not so different) from past changes. Whether you're a change leader, innovator, or AI-curious, this conversation will spark fresh ideas for your own practice.

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    David Arnold: Change Bees, Cardboard Cities & Coffee Conversations

    Coffee with Fleur podcasthttps://www.coffeewithfleurpodcast.au/The cardboard cityhttps://www.linkedin.com/posts/arnolddj_changemanagement-innovation-artsandculture-activity-6976311483651559424-1Mt1?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAAAA0rqAB367qpi99p2XAhEXan7UaipVDapchttps://captur3d.io/view/evolve-home-land/evolve-home-land

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    Anton de Weger: From AI to Neuroscience

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/antondeweger/🔗 Learn more: epilepsyproject.org.au

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    Brynn Shader: From Victim to Architect in Change

    Brynn Shader on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/brynnshader/https://www.brynnshader.com/Disrupt HR in Denver Talk 

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    Kathy Piestrzynski: Navigating Change with Curiosity

    Kathy's LinkedIn ProfileLena's LinkedIn Profile 

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    Zara Thurgood and Candace Trapp: Insights on Mastering Change Agility.

    Zara Thurgood on LinkedIn Candace Trapp on LinkedIn 

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    Michelle Teunis: Brain-Friendly Change

    The discussion covers the following key topics:Brain-Friendly Change:Designing change experiences that work by leveraging applied neuroscience.The importance of moving from fear to flow to overcome change resistance and failure.How brain-friendly change can serve as a protective shield against change overwhelm and fatigue.Understanding Resistance:Redefining resistance as a natural response and exploring its neurological basis.Strategies for creating approach states and minimizing avoid states to foster engagement.Leadership and Change:The critical role of leaders in setting the tone for change and the impact of their behavior on organizational culture.Practical tips for engaging leaders and aligning them with brain-friendly change practices.Agile and Brain-Friendly Change:The synergy between agile methodologies and brain-friendly change.How agile practices support continuous learning, collaboration, and psychological safety.Real-World Applications:Michelle shares real-life examples of implementing brain-friendly change techniques in large organizations.The significance of co-designing change initiatives with stakeholders to ensure success.Throughout the episode, Michelle emphasizes the importance of continuous learning and adapting change practices to align with our understanding of human behavior and neuroscience.  updates.Michelle Teunis on LinkedIn  (Guest) Lena Ross on LinkedIn (Host) CollabwiseEnroll in Brain-Friendly Change course.  

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    Natasha Redman: Challenges in agile adoption.

    Key themesAgile Change Leadership: Exploring the role of agile change leadership in modern organizations.World Agility Forum Highlights: Discussing key insights and takeaways from the World Agility Forum conference in Lisbon.Challenges in Agile Adoption: Addressing common challenges and misconceptions in adopting agile methodologies.Agile vs. Waterfall: Contrasting agile approaches with traditional waterfall methodologies in change management.The Future of Change Management: Considering the evolving landscape of change management and the need for practitioners to adapt to new methodologies and tools. Natasha on LinkedIn Casa de Cambio websiteNatasha's podcast Casa de Cambio 

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    Kylie Browne: From Documents to Dynamics

    In this episode of "Conversations of Agile Change," Kylie Browne speaks with Lena Ross and discusses her role as a director of organizational change, focusing on digital transformation and organizational agility post-COVID-19. She highlights the accelerated pace of change projects, emphasizing the need for quicker execution with less planning time. Kylie advocates for visual communication in change management, explaining how it simplifies complex information and facilitates effective communication. She also details the development of a community of practice within her organization to deepen change management capabilities at multiple levels. Listeners will learn about implementing agile change management and the benefits of continuous improvement. This episode is essential for anyone looking to understand agile methodologies in contemporary organizational contexts.

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    Melissa Bialoruski: A journey of change and growth

    In this episode of "Conversations of Agile Change," Dr. Jen Frahm and Enterprise Change Lead Melissa Bialoruski delve into the transformative power of agility and change management. Together, they explore the profound shift from hierarchical control to collaborative co-creation, highlighting the importance of embracing vulnerability and purpose-driven approaches in navigating the complexities of modern organizational change.

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    Pivot! Conversations of Agile Change kick off

    And we're back! Conversations of Change has had a lovely long nap and has woken up most refreshed and wanting to chat about Agile Change! Your co-hosts are Lena Ross and Dr Jen Frahm. We tell you what's coming up.

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    Leading change with data

    Stewart Bird Linkedin Aurecon's Digital Decision's report Aurecon Twitter Aurecon Facebook Aurecon Linkedin Aurecon Instagram 

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    The hardest change: Gender Equality

    Michelle Redfern contact details:Website - Advancing Women in Business & Sport Linkedin profile: Michelle Redfern Twitter: Facebook A career that soars 

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    Exploratory Leadership & Big Bounds

    @celineschill on Twitter https://weneedsocial.com/@changingview on Twitterhttps://antacarafrontiers.com/

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    Only Forward - Round 2

    To come later! 

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    Leading change up against your limits

    Further reading: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/learning-out-loud-up-against-my-limits-triple-threat-dr-jen-frahm/https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/16/white-fragility-racism-interview-robin-diangelohttp://laylafsaad.com/meandwhitesupremacy 

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    Only Forward

    Full transcript to be published later on the blog!  Tim Rayner - @timrayner01 (twitter) https://www.hacker-culture.com/LinkedIn  Hayley Lewis @haypsychhttps://halopsychology.com/LinkedIn  Melissa Dark  @melissadarkhttps://commonplacecommunication.com/https://bustingsilos.com.au/LinkedIn 

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    Talking coaching with Liam Brobst

    Liam's Linkedin Profile We cover:Liam's pathway in to coachingHow leaders should use coachesHow agile coaches and change management practitioners work together What surprises Liam about coaching after all these yearsWhat Liam wishes leaders would know or doLiam's take on curiosity, empathy, vulnerability, courage and self-compassion 

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    On exploratory leadership

    https://drjenfrahm.com/exploratory-leadership/https://www.patreon.com/drjenfrahmhttps://agilechangeinstitute.com.au/agile-change-leadership-certificate/https://bustingsilos.com.au/

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    On focus and post-traumatic growth

    Circles of Control http://www.talkingabout.com.au/3ControlInfluenceConcernThe Brene Brown podcast with David Kessler https://brenebrown.com/podcast/david-kessler-and-brene-on-grief-and-finding-meaning/The 3.5% rule - social contagion https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190513-it-only-takes-35-of-people-to-change-the-worldPost traumatic growth https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/beautiful-minds/post-traumatic-growth-finding-meaning-and-creativity-in-adversity/My patreon page https://www.patreon.com/drjenfrahm

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    On stillness and change

    Kubler Ross Change Curve https://www.exeter.ac.uk/media/universityofexeter/humanresources/documents/learningdevelopment/the_change_curve.pdfOn why I do use the Kubler Ross Change Curve https://conversationsofchange.com.au/of-myth-busting-babies-and-bathwater/Support the content I create https://www.patreon.com/join/drjenfrahmThe 4 Rs of future of work https://drjenfrahm.com/future-work/The podcast where I worked out I wasn't as chilled as I thought I was :-/https://brenebrown.com/podcast/brene-on-anxiety-calm-over-under-functioning/9 week e-course https://bustingsilos.com.au/Agile Change Leadership Certificate https://agilechangeinstitute.com.au/agile-change-leadership-certificate/  

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    Empathy versus Compassion

    Brene Brown podcast on empathy https://brenebrown.com/podcast/brene-on-comparative-suffering-the-50-50-myth-and-settling-the-ball/Compassion v empathy https://chopra.com/articles/whats-the-difference-between-empathy-sympathy-and-compassionBecome a patron!https://www.patreon.com/join/4156152?Panel discussion with Kristin Neff and Christopher Germer on the difference http://cultureofempathy.com/Projects/Conference/Panels/026-A.htm Introduction to validity (for the nerdy ones) https://conjointly.com/kb/introduction-to-validity/

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    Speed of Change

    My Patreon account Original story of the Burning Platform Examples of business's / organisations 'running from pain' Pure Physio Virtual consults & home visitsBrisbane Run Squad - Free inspo program Hatch Exchange - Corona Virus Labour Exchange Art2biz.info - Jonathan Champ's idea on connecting out of work performing artists with corporate Happiness is contagious My talk on creating calm  

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    Creating calm to lead change

    The patreon account I mentionhttps://www.patreon.com/drjenfrahmThe blog post that has struck a chordhttps://drjenfrahm.com/leading-uncertain-times/

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    Evan Leybourn: Business Agility and the Theory of Constraints in an Agile environment.

    I talk to Evan Leybourn of the Business Agility Institute about business agility, leadership, governance, and the continuing evolution of the Change Manager.

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    Cameron Schwab: What footy teaches us about change leadership

    What footy teaches you about change leadership. Cameron Schwab creates courageous, confident and creative leaders. He’s also kind of Aussie Footy Royalty. The youngest CEO of a club in AFL history, and the continued success and failure for the next 25 years over three more clubs. He has stories to tell, and he knows his way about change and transformation. We talk change leadership in this conversation of change, but perhaps not what you would expect. Rich stories of learning, resilience, performance, authenticity, vulnerability and GFS. You’ll probably want more from Cam and you can find it at https://www.designceo.com.au/

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    Dr Andrew Maher - Chief Digital Officer, Aurecon

    Here's the link to the report we talked about - > https://www.aurecongroup.com/expertise/digital-engineering-and-advisory/digital-futures/digital-landscape

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    Dr Helen Bevan - Chief Transformation Officer of the NHS

    I talk with Dr Helen Bevan , Chief Transformation Officer of the NHS on movements, leading from the edge, psychological safety, new power and old power. See drjenfrahm.com for transcript

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    Chapter 6: Conversations of Change, a guide to implementing change

    In the last episode of Part 1: Shaping up the decisions you need to make, I look at the most common models and frameworks out there for you to use.

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    Chapter 5: Conversations of Change, a guide to implementing workplace change

    Chapter 5 encourages you to think about the three core elements of successful change - clarity of purpose, understanding of the elements of change success, and the ability to measure them.

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    Chapter 4: Conversations of Change, A guide to implementing workplace change

    We're four days in to the six days in a row, Part 1 of my book. In Chapter 4 we deep dive into how to identify a good change practitioner - internal or external. This will help managers and leaders who are looking to recruit or hire specialists skillsets. If you're looking to move into change management this will also give you a sense of what you need to have by way of experience, skillset and mindset.

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    Chapter 3: Conversations of Change: A guide to implementing change

    Chapter 3 of Part 1 of my book Conversations of Change: A guide to implementing change . Chapter 3 is all about who’s who in the zoo! Easy to understand explanations of 10 necessary roles in change. Six episodes over six days.

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    Chapter 2: Conversations of Change, a guide to implementing workplace change

    It's chapter 2 of 6 chapters released daily of Part 1 of my book - in this I look at the four common points of confusion about change management and organisational change.

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    Chapter 1: Conversations of Change, a guide to implementing change (An experiment!)

    I'm releasing the first 6 chapters of my book Conversations of Change: A guide to implementing change as a serialized podcast! This one is Chapter one - where I explain the Choose your adventure structure.

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    Alice Tay, Change, Transformation and the Legal Profession

    Alice Tay is a lawyer, a CATIC Trade Delegation Mission Leader and NED on several boards. We talk change and transformation in the legal profession and what the future holds.

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    Adam Salzer, AusTTA & Transformational CEO whitepaper

    The Australian Transformation & Turnaround Association has released a white paper on the state of affairs of CEOs, Boards and Transformation. It's a bit grim! I speak with Adam Salzer, Chair of the ATTA about it.

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    Leading change at Food Bank for NYC - Margarette Purvis

    Leading change with Margarette Purvis - CEO of the Food Bank for NYC. We talk leading change in non-profits Kaizen, millenials, Toyota, instagram and the wisdom of grandmothers.

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    Donna Hardman and the Role of the Board in Change and Transformation

    Donna Hardman - Non Executive Board member and governance consultant shares on the role of the board in change and transformation, and her role as a change maker in the matters of cognitive diversity and understanding China from an industry perspective.

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    #ChangeChat with Shawn Callahan on Storytelling

    A #changechat with Anecdote founder Shawn Callahan on the power of stories in organizational change

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    5 Qualities of Change Leadership (We're back!!)

    And we're back - after a brief hiatus, we're back. I share a slight shift in focus for the year AND a talk I provided recently on the 5 qualities of change leadership that I think make all the difference! Warning - there's a 2 second drop out at about the 21 min mark. Dang!

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    #ChangeChat with Elise Stevens on Project Managers

    Dr Jen Frahm talks change management with Elise Stevens on the role of Project Managers

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    #ChangeChat with Celine Schillinger Part 2

    Part 2 of my #changechat with Change Agent Extraordinaire and French Order of Merit awardee Celine Schillinger. We talk change with communities, courage and social media.

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    #changechat with Celine Schillinger part 1

    Part 1 of my #changechat with the very amazing Celine Schillinger

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    #ChangeChat with Pru Gell on Deep Democracy

    In this change management podcast I interview Prue Gell about Deep Democracy as a tool for facilitating organizational change

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Dr Jen Frahm and Lena Ross talk all things agile change with practitioners, change managers, those in the agile domain and experts in the field.

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